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Those books are hilarious. If you don't like it you'll probably want to avoid Giggle Giggle Quack as well.
And Duck for President.

We have all three and enjoy them.

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And Duck for President.

We have all three and enjoy them.
All of her books are a hoot.We went to the Eric Carle Museum of Picture Book Art and they had a little Besty Lewin display. Nicholas (2) kept yelling, "Duck!!!! Duck!!!!!"

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I hate the Serendipity series that I had as a child and passed down to dd before I had a chance to re-read them and see how poorly written they are. They are way too wordy and their "moral lessons" all range froma little off to downright wrong. "Catundra" is the worst. The message basically is that being overwieght is not OK. It is OK for people to tease overweight people. And the the overweight people need to change in order to make the others stop teasing you. I cannot believe this book is still in print:

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My mom also picked up a book from my childhood called "Barney Beagle Goes Camping". Also horrible. I actually tossed that one before reading it to dd because I am 100% sure it would make her cry. I am staunchly against cencorship, but there was just nowhere to begin to explain that one. If I kept it, I would not feel like I could bring it out until dd was closer to 8 or 9 and by then the reading level would be far too babyish. It made my dh cry The jist of it is basically that this family hates this dog and is mean to it the entire trip until it saves them from a bear and they begridgingly decide the dog is OK after all.
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I do censor some of the nursery rhymes in our Mother Goose, but I'm above board about it. Like this: "Eww, I'm not reading that one, it's yucky." I don't read the ones about kids getting hit.
Those are the ones that bother me most, too. I skip them, and tell my kids why.

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Hmm, I guess I don't censor what my kids read, I buy age appropriate books for them, but I could care less if they're Elmo, Dora, etc. I just love that they love to read!

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i loved the serendipity series as a kid, i thought they were great my mom still has them for when my sis and i have kids

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The Love You Forever book creeped me out too. The Carl books bugged me, but I read it & talked through it with ds1. There is some series (I've seen the board book version -- not sure if their are longer versions out too) with a mouse named...Cornelious? Anyhow, all the books seem to have to do with candy/treats/parties. In one book Cornelious is told he cannot eat all the cupcakes as they are for all the guests. So instead he eats the piece of candy corn off each one. I expected some belly ache, or chastisement, or something -- but the next page went on about how the friends showed up for the party, played, then got their cupcakes -- and hooray for Cornelious for not eating them all -- what a good boy. puke. I added some words in & explained that book too, and then set it out of sight until we could take it back to the library.

I'm not down with the Thomas video (ds1 got one for his birthday), so I won't be buying any books either. Comments about helping other trains & then the train in question saying "and even Diesel was an engine" and other trains name calling smaller trains useless, etc. Until they "prove" that they are just as good, then they're accepted. And my favorite -- deciding to do things -- not because it's the right thing to do, but because you don't want to be embarrassed (or you know it will get you your way). There's a lesson I want to teach my kids!

I also skip the 1st story at least in the Curious George series -- or change the words. I really liked the way they did the movie -- CG stows away -- he isn't kidnapped (or monkey-napped ).

I will set books aside so they aren't noticeable (or get rid of them), but if they ask for me to read them I wouldn't refuse, kwim?

eta: I don't know if "Charlie & Lola" is a book series (something about the show makes me think it might be an adaptation), but if it is I'd rather shoot myself than read them. That little girl is a brat & 9 times out of 10 Charlie (the brother) ends up caving "because she's little." Yea, cause you don't need to learn compassion until you're older, so go ahead and stomp all over everyone else with no consequences. Grrrr
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Charlie and Lola even bugs my 3 year old! She really is a terrible brat. BTW, I got a PM about th"Legend of the Candy Cane". THanks very much. It turns out it's classified as an urban myth. That makes the book even worse in my eyes. Somebody made up this gruesome allegory, made it look like babes in toyland, and it got published. (shudder). I'm not one for censorship, but that one never made it out of my mother's house.

As fo rhte DAVID books. My school kids love thos books. I don't read them to my DD, but k-2 kids get a kick out of the naughtiness and they are old enough to know better. I like his book "The Rain Came Down". Much different from the David Books.

Anybody want to discuss their favorite authors/ books? I am always looking for new ones.

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Anybody want to discuss their favorite authors/ books? I am always looking for new ones.
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For picture books, anything by Martin Waddell.
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I do have to say that there's a difference between "censoring" books and simply choosing not to read or buy or borrow books that are just plain bad.

I don't think I would "censor" books unless my child wanted to read something that was inappropriate for her age. I would use those issues as teachable moments if appropriate for her age. However, there are plenty of books that I would not buy, borrow, or read because they are simple awful - poorly written, bad illustrations, boring or bad story, etc.

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I don't allow licensed books into my house. I won't read them. We have a ton of books, but no licensed books.

Ones I really dislike are this bunch given to me by an older woman at church. The "Help Me Be Good" series. Hate every one of them

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Yeah, Love You Forever is pretty creepy. My dd likes it though, and it made me cry constantly after dd2 was born. I really don't want my mother breaking into my house though, not to mention the passive aggressiveness of, "You better come and see me bc I'm very old and very sick." And The Runaway Bunny also bothers me for its stalkerish qualities. I really, really don't like the whole, "If you become a boat, I will become the wind and blow you where I want you to go." Curious George is really disturbing, as well. Talk about stereotypes! However, the ones other than the first one aren't nearly as bad. And don't get me started on Dr. Seuss. Green Eggs and Ham??? Talk about harassment! The whole thing is just wrong. And where is the mother in Cat in the Hat? Those kids aren't old enough to be left alone! Of course, i was an English major and don't have a lot of intellectual challenge in my life at the moment, so I do spend a lot of time analyzing children's books.....:
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We do really like the No, David! books at our house. Yeah, they're naughty, but they're pretty fun. And my toddlers love the illustrations. I don't konw what it is; there is just something captivating about them. Bright, bold, clear, somthing. My 2 yr old likes that she can pretty much read it by herself!

We also have no character books. I don't usually censor (except for But Not the Hippopotamus by Sandra Boynton - I do always include the armadillo at the end), although I do a lot of commentary. "And here we have Sam continuing in his quest to be slapped with a harassment suit. If someone says no once, you should not continually pester them. No means no, even for eggs!" Or, in regards to Love You Forever, "I don't know why this mother doesn't just come over during the daytime and knock on the door. It's pretty creepy that she's breaking into his house. If I ever start to do this when you're a grown up, you should definitely buy a home security system. And look into power of attorney."
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Ugh! That horrid "ping" book where the duck gets whacked on the back.
I used to collect the old "Little Golden Books". I have one that my mil got at a garage sale that I had never read before...about a little boy who gets a new puppy. I'm reading along to ds and then I get to a part that said, "tommy rolls up a newspaper and hits the puppy, he never uses his hand" OMG! yeah...we didn't finish that book. :

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Guess How Much I Love You is a book I didn't particularly like. It seemed so competitive....just kind of creeped me out.
Someone gave this book to us as a gift. I had not read it, and my husband is from Sweden so he is not familiar with many of the books we read as kids.

He called me at work one night and was LIVID. He said he had just read "Guess How Much I Love You" to our dd and would NEVER read it again it had upset him so much. I had NO clue what he was talking about--he kept saying how sad it was. So I read it that night when I got home, and I could see his point. Here the little rabbit just trying to say "I love you" and is always being outdone. Since when should saying I love you to someone be a competition? I had no idea my dh was so sensitive. Needless to say, it has not been read in our house since.

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I'm pretty sure I've never read a book to DS that I've had issues with. Maybe I'm just easy going that way. lol.
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My least favorite so far are the Curious F***** George Books. They came to have this name through my 7 years of teaching when I was forced to use them in my K-2 reading classes. A poacher steals a little monkey away from his home by putting him in a sack, and then over the course of the books repeatedly neglects him and allows him to get into all sorts of dangerous situations. Truly awful!.
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The biologist in me would like to add that Curious George IS NOT A MONKEY!!! HE IS AN APE!!!!!!!!!

This drives me: A chimpanzee is an ape, they do not have tails. The difference between an ape and a monkey is a tail or no tail

I would think that after years of this someone would correct it

It feels so nice to get that rant off my chest Now my dh wouln't have to listen to it as much
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I look back at the books that I read as a child and I have to say, they're a lot creepier now! (Same with TV and kids movies.) I don't think there's anything I will absolutely not allow, but I will avoid anything that is poorly written.

I'm also not a fan of books where a kid gets a new brother or sister and it says babies are born in hospitals and drink out of bottles.... not my babies! (I wouldn't disallow those books, but I would point out that these things are not always the case).

I'm working on writing a series of children's books that lean a little more towards AP being the norm. Hopefully I'll be able to get them out there to parents who are having a hard time finding books like that.

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This is an interesting thread. I find myself looking at it from a slightly different perspective - I have noticed that books written (even targeted at toddlers) before TV was invented have more words, more detail in the stories. I tend to gravitate towards those types of stories. This does lead to some stereotyping that I don't like. Books that have been written in recent decades seem to just not have enough words. I know, that's like telling Mozart there are too many/not enough notes, right? But really, I want more descriptions, more detail. The woman who wrote Verdi gets a from me for this by the way.

OK now, why do we NOT like Dr. Seuss? In our house we're BIG fans of the Dr. Seuss ABC and of Oh The Thinks You Can Think. It's supposed to be surreal, not literal, right? What don't we like? Help a mama out.
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Hmm, I guess I don't censor what my kids read, I buy age appropriate books for them, but I could care less if they're Elmo, Dora, etc. I just love that they love to read!
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Ugh! That horrid "ping" book where the duck gets whacked on the back.
Uuugh! I read that at Barnes & Noble -- or rather I read the first page or two. At the end the duck (having run away) comes back & ends up getting hit anyway -- but hey, it's better to be hit than all alone. :
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My DD really like Dr. Seuss, but not the more simplistic ones. She prefers the Sneetches, The Butter Battle Book, and the Lorax. This gives us ample opportunity to discuss environmental degradation, rascism, self-esteem, negative body image and global warfare and disarmament. You would think this would be a tad beyond a 3 year old, but she really gets into it. BTW, she thinks Sam needs better listening ears!

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I Want My Potty by Tony Ross.

I hate the way the little princess is bullied into coming out of nappies before she is ready.
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i loved the serendipity series as a kid, i thought they were great my mom still has them for when my sis and i have kids
I loved them as a kid too. That is why I saved them to pass on to my own kids. But reading them as an adult? Eek! No wonder I had some messed up notions about compassion growing up. I remember that my mom did not like to read them to me but I always thought it was because they were too long. I finally get it. Reread them. Some are OK, but many are really messed up.
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so we're not welll versed yet in "the literature".

I'm in the process of reading the "Little House" books for myself right now. I think they are realistic sometimes, and overly romantic others. Now some of the songs that Paw plays on his fiddle are way offensive. When pictures become less important I'll still read them to DS. We'll have to have discussions about the songs (it would be a great homeschooling lesson if I was inclined to homeschool).

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Guess How Much I Love You is a book I didn't particularly like. It seemed so competitive....just kind of creeped me out.
You're right -- it is unnecessarily competitive, isn't it? Luckily when I read it with dd we don't see it that way. The darn book always makes me cry though! Just the last line - "to the moon and back". It gets me going because regardless of whether the daddy bunny totally trumped his baby or not, it's still a sweet sentiment. DD and I will often mimic the book but I'm not always the love "winner" Now and then, I love her "100" and she loves me "60-50" and that means she "beat" me. And who am I to argue. It's all in good fun for us though.

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What's wrong with Not the Hippopatamus? We LOVE Sandra Boynton around here. Anything she's written is a huge hit with 7 month old dd.

I think I'm the only person in the world who doesn't like The Runaway Bunny. I would be afraid my daughter would run off in a store or something.

I am surprised at how many people said they wouldn't read religious books to their kids. I was thinking, why not at least expose them to it. But then I thought that since I accept Christian (Catholic) teaching as fact and Truth, I probably wouldn't read atheist books to my kids. I guess it's the same thing.

I never liked Curious George books either, but I just think they're boring. I like Love You Forever, though. I think it's sweet.
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I'm in the process of reading the "Little House" books for myself right now.
It's at a bit higher reading level, but check out Caddie Woodlawn as well. Big hit here.
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Beatrix Potter -- you have to be REALLY careful with these. My aunt gave my dd a set of these and half of them are absolutely over the top with classism and violence against animals. Mrs. Tittlemouse and even the Tale of Mr. Jeremy Fisher are cute/good ones that come to mind.

The Giving Tree (Silverstein) -- I find this to be incredible depressing and creepy and bizarre, which is a really good way to describe the author too. : I like the concept but I think it actually doesn't do a very good job of promoting environmental conservation as it is "supposed" to. If you're looking for a book to tout the importance of trees, I recommend the classic children's book, A Tree is Nice, which is wonderful.
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I hate "Guess How Much I Love You" and "Love you Forever" too. They are insane.
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