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What children's books rub you the wrong way? Do you try to restrict your kids access to them?

It seems like some of the worst offenders when it comes to children's lit are the "classics". Here's one I came across:

http://www.poetryloverspage.com/poet...of_verses.html

find the verse called "Foreign Children" and read it. :

So what's the most offensive/innapropriate children's book that you've come across?
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I used to love RL Stevenson. I don't know how I missed this one, but I wish I hadn't seen it at all. We just return a cd of some of his poetry set to music that was lovely (Child's Garden of Songs).

Yes, I do censor things. We still haven't read any Laura Ingalls Wilder because I just don't feel up to it yet. I've not read them books my grandmother has given us which present one particular religious perspective as fact. I will never read Love You Forever to them because it creeps me out!
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I don't like books with commercial characters. The exception is, "The Magic School Bus" books, which we love. I also dislike any kind of book that hypes school. At the library today, my little guy picked out a bus book that goes on about school. He really wanted it so we got it, but I would normally avoid books that focus on school (we're homeschoolers). We really love Henry Huggins these days, but it seems like many of Cleary's books have a heavy emphasis on school, so I'm not sure of what to do there.
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What children's books rub you the wrong way? Do you try to restrict your kids access to them?

It seems like some of the worst offenders when it comes to children's lit are the "classics". Here's one I came across:

http://www.poetryloverspage.com/poet...of_verses.html

find the verse called "Foreign Children" and read it. :

So what's the most offensive/innapropriate children's book that you've come across?
Yeah, I see what you're saying, but, of course that book is a product of its time. I think it would be cool to read to an older child and talk about cultural stereotypes, ethnocentrism and imperialism.
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Leftfield, I've noticed that too about Cleary. My kids go to school but I don't like how so many books and tv shows present school as a child's whole life.

I like the "product of its time" thing and I do point out stereotypes that we run across as we read (there are so many gender stereotypes that I'd forgotten about!) My kids are definitely old enough to do more of this.
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"Walter the Farting Dog." I detest that book.

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"Walter the Farting Dog." I detest that book.

These are my son favorites!

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* Honey Bunny Funnybunny about a little bunny's journey to accepting her brother's physical and mental torturing her as his way of expressing love.

* Anything cross-licensed.

* Rainbow Fish (fish physically mutilates himself and sacrifices individuality so he and his friends can be all alike)

* Berenstain Bears
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What in this is offensive? Do you not get that this is written a) from the POV of a child commenting in wonder at lives unlike his own and b) in a gently ironic tone?

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* Rainbow Fish (fish physically mutilates himself and sacrifices individuality so he and his friends can be all alike)
Yeah? What is up with that??
I'd heard so much about what a wonderful book it is etc. etc, and the illustrations seemed beautiful, but when I actually read it I was left quite unsettled.
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Yeah, I see what you're saying, but, of course that book is a product of its time. I think it would be cool to read to an older child and talk about cultural stereotypes, ethnocentrism and imperialism.
Yes, absolutely. And a much more concrete way to illuminate your young child than with an abstract, related-to-nothing lecture!
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We read whatever our kids are interested and use it as a chance to talk about our values anywhere there is a conflict.
My dd loves the rainbow fish and it also bothers me in some ways, so we talk about why sharing can feel nice (which I think is the intended message of the book) but why it is okay to say no too.
Overall I dislike dogmatic books, but my ds is in love with the Berestain Bears, so we read them alot.
We have an immense collection of books at home (two readers and an elementary school teacher ) and visit the library often, so our kids are exposed to a wide range of books with lots of opportunities to talk.
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Holy crap, that poem is so offensive it's just...beyond pale.
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Click, Clack, Moo This book is total propaganda for unionism. Why do toddlers and preschoolers need this type of persuasion?

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I'm just curious... what's wrong with the Berenstain Bears? I haven't read them in decades, so I don't really know...

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I'm just curious... what's wrong with the Berenstain Bears? I haven't read them in decades, so I don't really know...
Some are better than others (I still love when Papa goes "Ptooey" when he tries his camping soup), but there's lots of rude and mis-behavior in them. This may be OK for older kids, but why introduce bad behavior before a child is indulging in those behaviours? IMHO, the worst are the "message" BB books. Oh, and forget the one they go to the mall!
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Click, Clack, Moo This book is total propaganda for unionism. Why do toddlers and preschoolers need this type of persuasion?
Because unions are power! I like to start indoctrinating my kid at birth; of course, given Murphy's Law, they'll end up voting Republican.

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Junie B. Jones. Am I the only mom who can't stand them? She drives me nuts!
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Click, Clack, Moo This book is total propaganda for unionism. Why do toddlers and preschoolers need this type of persuasion?
Those books are hilarious. If you don't like it you'll probably want to avoid Giggle Giggle Quack as well.

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I'm just curious... what's wrong with the Berenstain Bears? I haven't read them in decades, so I don't really know...
I don't like how Papa Bear gets to act like a grouchpott and tiptoed around until Mama Bear smooths things over.
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Oh, and I can't stand "The Stupids" series.

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I don't find the poem offensive at all, only a bit old-fashioned. I think most kids would get that it's about how home feels best to everyone (and that the little Japanese kid would feel the same way about the strange foreign food the English kid eats, for example).
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what is wrong with love you forever?
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what is wrong with love you forever?
That book's stalkerish qualities freak me out.

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Isn't that the one where the mom breaks into the adult son's house in the middle of the night and rocks him?

Reminds me of how if I don't answer the phone my mom drives over, because her right to hear from me right away trumps my right to set boundaries. (I don't believe that I have to answer the phone just because it rings.)
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cripes everytime i read that book to my kids i break down crying and they look at me like i've lost my marbles.
Maybe because i didn't feel the love as a child i love that she loves her son so much! Maybe it's just something that i craved as a child.
Of course now if i woke up in the morning and found out my mother has flown all the way from France to sleep on my bedroom floor i might be a little startled!
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and i still love it and i still will cry especially when the mother is dying at the end oh don't get me started
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cripes everytime i read that book to my kids i break down crying and they look at me like i've lost my marbles.
Maybe because i didn't feel the love as a child i love that she loves her son so much! Maybe it's just something that i craved as a child.
Of course now if i woke up in the morning and found out my mother has flown all the way from France to sleep on my bedroom floor i might be a little startled!
I cry at books too, and movies. This one just pushes buttons for me, I guess. I think it's meant to be a little satirical, a little heavy-handed.
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Junie B. Jones. Am I the only mom who can't stand them? She drives me nuts!
OMG... Junie is such a, well, BRAT!
And she has the worst five-year-old grammar I've ever heard. :

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personally, I hate the giving tree. And Love you forever also creeps me out.

I also hate badly written children's books. Some of the baby einstein books fall into that category.

You know the attributes for a great adult? Initiative, creativity, intellectual curiosity? They make for a helluva kid...
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