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#31 of 39 Old 03-04-2008, 01:30 AM
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I understand that there are spoilers online, but if you didn't personally see the representation, it doesn't seem fair of you to write a critique of the movie. This is regardless of how valid your points may or may not be.
Jessy has been loudly opposing adoption in any and all of its forms for many, many years, CookieMonsterMommy, despite the fact that (according to her) she has never been directly involved in adoption as any member of the trifecta).

Watching the movie would have lent more credibility to any critic's argument that the movie was one thing or another...but, to some people, there is NO acceptable representation of adoption, so watching the movie would be a mute point, I guess.
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...and I don't understand why anyone would think that choosing to put the baby up for adoption would lend itself to ending the relationship with Juno and her boyfriend. Just because they still wanted to be together doesn't mean that either of them thought they were ready to raise a baby...
As someone without any personal experience with adoption, take this for what it's worth. I think some PP's argument with that part of the movie was that they just got back together without....any discussion/thoughts on how to deal with everything.

That's how I felt...not that they could never be together, or that they were doomed, but that it (the situation) wasn't presented as something they would have to deal with--now or ever--and to me that didn't seem realistic.

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As someone without any personal experience with adoption, take this for what it's worth. I think some PP's argument with that part of the movie was that they just got back together without....any discussion/thoughts on how to deal with everything.

That's how I felt...not that they could never be together, or that they were doomed, but that it (the situation) wasn't presented as something they would have to deal with--now or ever--and to me that didn't seem realistic.
Honestly? I guess I just figured that they had talked about it...like, off-screen or something. Like it wasn't part of the actual movie, but it happened...know what I mean?

The thing *I* thought was unrealistic is the fact that the boyfriend's mom never knew it was his baby.
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Honestly? I guess I just figured that they had talked about it...like, off-screen or something. Like it wasn't part of the actual movie, but it happened...know what I mean?
I didn't get the impression that the final scene was like the day after she got out of the hospital or anything. Stuff happened between him holding her in the hospital bed and them singing.

I loved the part where her dad promised that she'd be back there again someday, and on her own terms. I thought that acknowledged the difficulty of the situation.

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The thing *I* thought was unrealistic is the fact that the boyfriend's mom never knew it was his baby.
Yeah, wtf. I guess she didn't put a father on the paperwork then? Or maybe Bleeker signed off without his mom knowing.

I didn't think anything in the movie glamorized adoption, or showed any kind of pressure being put on Juno to give up the baby. I think it was the best option in her situation...she wasn't ready to parent, period. I'm not sure about Vanessa as a single mom, but that's the only part that bothered me.
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I loved the movie. I can't wait to see it again.

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No one's allowed to oppose adoption unless they've given up a baby, been given up, or adopted? Are people allowed to *support* adoption without giving up a baby, being given up, or adopting?

So I'm not allowed to oppose, for example, genital mutilation, if I haven't mutilated anyone else and if I haven't been mutilated myself?

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Maybe that's a good topic for a different thread, Sustainer. You make a good point, but, and I'm not trying to be rude, it's way OT.

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I really enjoyed Juno. I didn't expect it to be so sad, I had thought she was going to keep the baby before I saw it. The scene in the hospital was so sad - my sister and I cried and cried. I did love when her dad told her she'd be back one day.

I loved most of the characters, esp. Juno's parents. I never really felt any connection between Juno and her boyfriend, and felt badly that he wasn't given much choice in the decision. And I was surprised to see him them so close in the hospital - but I was happy because Juno needed the support. And after seeing him hold her and sing to her, I wasn't as surprised to see them at together at the end of the movie.

I liked how the movie showed some of the stress that families feel - instead of the adoptive parents being thrilled and everything being easy and fun, it brought so much stress to their relationship that they didn't stay together.

I just really liked it, and definitely didn't see Juno as glamorizing adoption. It didn't make adoption seem eay or fun, or glamorous.

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I liked the movie a lot. I also thought it was odd that Bleekers mom never knew he was the father.

As far as Juno and Bleeker staying together, high school classmates of my father had a child together that they gave up for adoption in High School, then went on to get married and have more children after they had both been through college. So it happens. And my impression from the last scene where they are sitting there singing, they both seem kind of sad and wistful somehow, like they both changed.
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