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#1 of 5 Old 07-18-2012, 06:48 PM - Thread Starter
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My 7 year old is a very picky eater, with a sweet tooth, sensory issues, and a small appetite.  He's very resistant to new foods, "lumpy" foods, foods that "look gross," etc.  He will not touch meat.  He's also fickle; something he'll eat today may be "gross" tomorrow.


His father will not be on board with any changes to ds' diet, no matter how helpful they might be, and there's nothing I can do about that.  Ds is with him about 20% of the time.


I'd like to try some dietary intervention to see if his attentiveness improves/temper mellows.  I'm looking for suggestions!  Thanks.

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#2 of 5 Old 07-18-2012, 09:06 PM
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Which ADHD diet are you thinking of? To my knowledge, the one most famous and most supported by studies is the Feingold Program, Stage 2, and it's the one I know the most about, so I'm going to write this post with that in mind. (The Feingold Association recommends against skipping to stage 2, but I recall a few anecdotes about that working out well enough for people who couldn't do stage 1.)


What kind of schedule does his dad have him? You are supposed to be on the program for a few weeks before deciding whether or not it's working, but I've heard stories of kids showing signs of improvement in just a few days. So if his dad has him just on the weekends or something, it might be worth a shot. Also, if your kid really starts to believe in the diet, he might avoid questionable foods regardless of what his dad offers him.


Contrary to common belief, the Feingold program does not mean cutting out sweets and junk food. It's also not about natural versus unnatural. It gets rid of these:

--Synthetic colors

--Synthetic flavors

--Synthetic sweeteners

--These preservatives: TBHQ, BHA, BHT

--Salicylates, a category of chemical that occurs NATURALLY in some fruits and veggies (avoiding these is Stage 1)

--The materials they send you if you sign up to the program also have some resources for avoiding sodium benzoate, casein, and gluten


Natural sweeteners (sugar, vanilla, xylitol) are not forbidden, but you probably want to exercise moderation for other reasons....


You can still have all sorts of tasty foods on the program. The problem is you can't just eat anything anymore. For example, if your kid wants a cupcake, you can easily make cupcakes without the forbidden ingredients, but if one of his classmates brings in cupcakes for a class birthday, the chances that those won't have the forbidden ingredients are pretty slim. Also, his favorite cereal or something might have the bad stuff, and he might miss having that beloved food. He might also have a loyalty to certain brand names even if there's a nearly identical safe food in another brand.


The hard part about determining which foods are safe is that preservatives don't always have to be listed on the label in some situations. (Plus, if you're avoiding salicylates, that's often in "natural flavoring.") So if you want to be able to buy anything processed enough to have an ingredients label (including staples like milk and cheese!), you'll either have to buy the booklets from the Feingold Association or call the manufacturers yourself. If you're pressed for money, you might try the no-processed-foods tactic for a while to see if your child shows improvement, then if it works, buy the booklets later to make your life easier. I think it's like $80.


Also, it's not just a diet. You also need to avoid cosmetics, medicines, soaps, etc. Anything that goes in the mouth is probably higher priority (toothpaste, dental floss coating, lip balm, mouth wash, vitamins), but you need to worry about stuff going through the skin too. I had a lot of trouble finding OTC medication that didn't have food coloring.


For the record, I hear very little about the Feingold Program or other ADHD-improving diet fixing attention problems. The focus is usually on behavior problems caused by hyperactivity or impulsivity. "Inattentiveness" is sometimes listed among a big list of symptoms the program can lessen or fix, but I'm starting to think those lists might refer to inattentiveness as a manifestation of hyperactivity/impulsivity (e.g. can't concentrate on a book because you're too busy bouncing off the walls) rather than the attention problems faced by people with "primarily inattentive-type" ADHD. I see slightly more info about it fixing sensory issues though. I heard a few stories about kids becoming less picky eaters once they started the program.

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What DOES your child eat now? Rather than looking at what to ban, could you look to modify the possibly shorter list of what he will eat? Could you send him to Dad's with a backpack full of OK foods? When my son was going through this, we just kept vast quantities of acceptable foods around, and really never put it in terms of, "You can't have this or that". The list of what he would and could eat was so short that that worked out better for us. Really, it was just 4 or 5 items. He never wanted more variety, so it worked for us.

For what it's worth, YoungSon is now 16, eats a full diet, went out to sushi with me the other day, and is begging to go back! This stage won't last forever.

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Your experience is very, very common. I've been working with families implementing the Feingold diet for many years and hear about picky eaters and/or non-compliant exes all the time. What I've seen a lot is that the longer the child avoids dyes, etc., the less picky he becomes. Does your son have sensory problems? You might look into that.


I would encourage you begin with Stage One especially if he might get salicylataes and things off the diet when he is with your ex. There are so many kids that don't get the deserved success (or any success) by going straight to Stage Two.


Behavior is definitely improved for kids with ADHD but so is intentiveness, lack of focus, irritability, etc. Go the Feingold website and click on symptoms.www.feingold.org


BTW, there is also an excellent Yahoo group http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Feingold-Program4us/ that is sort of a "first hello" to others using the diet. If you are on Facebook, you will find a Feingold Association page to join.

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Thank you all!  You've given me a lot to think about.

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