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I think that it can vary, but my ds holds his arms with his elbows close to his waist and shakes his hands (at chest level) from the wrist.
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I think that it can vary, but my ds holds his arms with his elbows close to his waist and shakes his hands (at chest level) from the wrist.
thats what my son does as well sometimes its wider movements, but usually its the way she described.

its one of his stim behaviours.
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If you look at the video clips attached to Finch's signature, you will see a child hand flapping -- you'll also see some other stimming behaviours. hth, Fiona
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It sort of looks like when someone is waving their hands frantically when they see a mouse or a roach or someone they really like....

Click the link. LOL.

My ds does it. Of course he has autism, so, natch.
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Thanks ladies!

Okay, that doesn't describe what Owen does so does anyone else have any ideas about this....

Owen normally does this a couple times a day. He'll be playing with something and then wave his hands back and forth really fast to knock whatever he's playing with down. It can be blocks, toys, whatever. Thursday at speech he piled a bunch of play food on a table then went madly at them waving his hands around until every single piece was knocked down. He will NOT stop until every single thing is down (and not just down, but off the table). He also does this with food. If he's done with a meal he'll start waving his hands around knocking everything onto the floor. It's really, really annoying but I can't get him to stop. It's almost like once he starts he HAS to finish it. If I take his hands or move him to another place he goes mad, fighting and screaming until I let go and he can finish knocking everything down.

I have no idea if this is normal 2 year old behaviour or not. So far I have never seen my now 3 1/2 year old sister, my 2 year old nephew, or any of the other kids at Owen's therapy do this. The first time he did it in front of his therapist she acted surprised, but never said anything to me about it.

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My son doesn't do it that often, but he does have a similar behaviour when he is frustrated: he has to throw ALL of what was bugging him and it ALL has to go AWAY! What sort of mood is Owen in when he does this, do you have a good sense? And is it always the same mood and set of triggers, or do you think he's getting something out of the activity itself (in other words, is he doing it for the sake of it, or in reaction to something)?
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Thanks Addax. I thought at first he was doing it when he was frustrated. I remember one time he was building with his blocks, the tower fell down, so he went NUTS flailing about until all the blocks were spread all over the room. But now I don't get the sense he's frustrated. Like with the play food at his speech Thursday. He was playing nicely, he was happy. He just turned around all of a sudden and cleared the table (and nearly hit his ST ). When he was done he just (tried) to walk away like nothing had happened (I did stop him and have him help clean it up). He also HATES when things are on shelves (AKA- put away ). He clears them off as soon as he sees them. That drives me nuts too. And I actually went through his toys at grandpa's house yesterday so he doesn't have nearly as many toys/books to knock down. It's not always the same triggers, it can be anything. That's what makes it hard is I can't predict when it's going to happen (if I could I'd try to distract him BEFORE it happens). Thursday at ST he also did it with paint. He was painting nicely (he had 3 paper plates with different colors on each). After a few minutes he started flailing his arms trying to clear the table. I thought it was because he was done but he got upset when I took them away and he wanted to keep painting. I mentioned he also does this with his food/meals, but not all the time. I was wondering about whether he's doing it just to do it, and I honestly have no idea. I thought he was (just to be a little booger) but when I try to stop him, the reaction he has, it's very ummm.... emotional? So I really have no idea. I'm trying not to react to it (either negative- which is really hard, or positively) thinking if he doesn't get a reaction then maybe he'll stop. So far it's not working.

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I just don't know. I'm as mystified as you are! I would definitely ask and keep on asking everyone you can think of. I tend to find that it takes a lot of asking sometimes to get answers. If some specialist doesn't have a frame of reference for a behaviour they don't see it or don't say anything about it.

Good luck and let us know...

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