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#1 of 17 Old 02-20-2009, 10:36 PM - Thread Starter
 
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Anyone have success turning twins? Baby A is breech and B is trasnverse at 34 weeks. I'm starting to panic. A is really low too...her butt is pretty much engaged in my pelvis so I not only need her to turn I gotta get her out of my pelvis first. Anyone have success with two? Seems like everything I've heard works great with one but not two. Here's what I'm doing/have done so far

-I order some moxa sticks for moxibustion
-I'm taking a high potency of pulsatilla
-listening to hypnobabies - turn your breech baby and twins track
-pelvic tilts, inversions, down dogs
-If i get brave enough I'm going to try swimming this week in my neighbors pool (its in the 70's here so hopefully it wont be toooo terribly cold)

any other ideas. my chiro doesn't think webster would work with twins. I'd love to hear if anyone has done this successfully with twins!!! I REALLY don't want a c/s.
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My chiropractor did not think the Webster technique would work for turning my twins either (they were close to what yours are doing), but he tried and it worked!! I went 38 weeks and they did not turn until after 34 weeks. They were 8 lbs 6 oz and 7 lbs 7 oz so it was no small feat...or feet..hehe. I also wanted to VBAC and with them both head down that was possible (in the interest of honesty, I ended up with a c/s after pushing for 45 minutes due to numerous other problems

Do you think your chiro would be willing to try?
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I wouldn't worry too much at 34 weeks. Mine didn't turn until about 36 weeks and both of mine had been transverse. The only problem I had with mine is that they both decided to go breech. My Dr. had been willing to try delivering naturally if one had been head down and the other breech, but not with both. He said that with just one breech there was a chance that once the head down baby (as long as it was the one closest to the cervix) was out he was willing to try a special massage that would allow him to turn the other once there was some space in there and he could probably deliver both naturally that way. My guys just didn't want to co-operate.
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I had one baby on each hip. One vertex and one breech (slightly lower). I tried EVERYTHING (well that i had access to.) Pulsatilla, positioning, etc. Then I gave up. Next morning the breech baby had flipped.... at 37 weeks! And even though she was further down in my pelvis.

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i did everything op said plus lots of inversion, yoga, exercise ball stuff, acupuncture and chiro. the acupuncture and chiropractor got the most movement for me. mine were flipping up until the end at 40 weeks
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i'm 36 weeks with baby a breech and baby b transverse. we're planning a breech birth at the moment...

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I tried all of the above plus Webster. They were flipping around in there but eventually I just gave up. My complex complete breech Baby A was born at home at 39 weeks. Baby B flipped as she was going out and came vertex (but posterior--I think I would have preferred breech! )
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Interesting thread! I'm 27.5 weeks right now and at last u/s both babies were head down-- but I know that's no guarantee at this point. (I have another u/s in a few days-- having them every 4 weeks, so I'll be curious to see. Based on kicks, I think they're still down there). My OB told me that if they're still head down at 32 weeks, then she's pretty sure they'll stick-- and we'll do vag birth. And if they're one is breech at 32 weeks then they'll probably stick that way... and I should schedule a c-section. Ugh! If that's the sitaution at 32, I will definitely try to get them to move (with suggestions on this thread and elsewhere) rather than just throwing my hands up. But hopefully it won't be an issue. Eek.
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Webster worked for me with both sets. First set- Baby A was breech consistently until 36 weeks when she flipped. Both born vertex. Second set- Baby B was transverse on and off until the delivery. They were both vertex. I did Webster consistently with both sets and really didn't do much else except OFP.

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Both of mine were transverse from day one until they were born. I tried EVERYTHING but Raphi would not get his but out of my pelvis/cervix (he was really low). At 36.5 weeks they discovered that Raphi was in distress at one of the ultrasounds, so we had a planned c-section the next week. My main concern was 2 healthy babies by the end. Hopefully when I get pregnant again I can try for VBAC.

Good luck to you, and if the babies don't turn, try not to stress about it too much. Once you are holding the cutie patuties, it will all be worth it.

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My chiro learned Webster just to do on my twins. Not only did it work, (The second one didn't turn until 38 weeks) it felt wonderful (relaxes those tense, overstrained ligaments or something). Tell your chiro it can't hurt to try!
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I have a question about turning twins: if one is one way, and one is the other (as of today (28 weeks) my Baby B is breech, but baby A is head down), is there a chance that these techniques could just make it worse (e.g., turn A breech as well)? Just curious?
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Webster technique did nothing for my breech twins.

However, I did get quite a bit of movement with moxibustion (I went to an accupuncturist for it). In the end, they both stayed put where they were, however.

Keep trying! And they can always turn at the last moment.
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I have a question about turning twins: if one is one way, and one is the other (as of today (28 weeks) my Baby B is breech, but baby A is head down), is there a chance that these techniques could just make it worse (e.g., turn A breech as well)? Just curious?

I think the position of Twin A is most important, as Twin B can turn in lots of directions once A is born (even from vertex to breech to any other way). I never worried about B's position... but was happy that A was head down.
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I think the position of Twin A is most important, as Twin B can turn in lots of directions once A is born (even from vertex to breech to any other way). I never worried about B's position... but was happy that A was head down.
Unfortunately, I think my OB wants to schedule a section if EITHER of them are breech....

UPDATE: I actually just saw my OB right after this post and it sounds like there's more wiggle room with Baby B being breech than I thought-- although she can't make guarantees because of the vagaries of which doctor will be on call when I go into labor (some are comfortable with baby B being breech, even doing a breech extraction; others not so much) (And then there's the general issue of the risk of delivering one vaginally and the other via c-section, which is the thing I want to avoid most of all). But she said, let's worry about this after my 32 week u/s, as there's time/room for the baby to switch. And she also said that some of this will depend on which baby is bigger (much better of delivering vaginally with B in breech if A is bigger than B. Right now they're equivalent size.
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And she also said that some of this will depend on which baby is bigger (much better of delivering vaginally with B in breech if A is bigger than B. Right now they're equivalent size.
I have to say, it was disappointing that Ben was so hard to push out! Everyone kept telling me the second baby would be easier. But at a pound larger and a more difficult presentation (posterior vertex was much harder than footling breech!) it took twice as long and I was pooped from already having a baby! I got him out though, and you can, too.
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^^^ Yes! My bigger baby was Baby B. SHe was posterior vertex in the caul.... that didn't feel so nice

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