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#1 of 23 Old 09-23-2012, 04:45 PM - Thread Starter
 
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So, until reading mamalove3's thread the other day (CONGRATS!!!!) I had NO idea that baby B could be born first. I dont know how I missed that, but I've never seen any article or anything that talked about it. So, this whole time I've been in the camp of "if baby A is head down we're all good" and now I have to worry about two babies.

 

So, moms of twins, was baby B presenting? Answer multiple times if you have had multiple twin pregnancies, or if you know a mama who has birthed baby B first, answer for her too. Thanks!!!!


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I don't know how to answer this because when I asked my dr and ultrasound techs a similar question they said whoever is born first is called Baby A no matter where they were beforehand. They said they can not call any baby born first Baby B because being first automatically makes them Baby A. I was so frustrated because I really felt like my girls switched who was closer to the cervix in the middle of pregnancy and I had difficulty bonding because I didn't know who was who. They also said it was "impossible" for the babies to switch who was closer to the cervix at any point whether they were di-di (which mine were), mono-di, or even mono-mono which I also didn't believe. Oh well.

 

Long story short, my Baby A was born first because of how they defined which baby was which. Both were head down somewhere around week 30.


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As Emelee says, whichever baby is labeled 'A' just indicates who is closest to the cervix.  In my entire pregnancy, my Lucy was always baby 'A', and she was born first.  It is possible, depending on how everything is situated, that at some point A and B can switch places, making A->B and B->A.  But A is just an indicator of who is closest to the cervix.  I would hazard a guess that if someone states that B was born first, what they are saying is that A and B at some point switched places so that B became A and then was born.  


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In cases of C-section, often B is born first.

 

My girls did switch at least once during the pregnancy. But that changed who was A and who was B. But we had nicknamed them, so they each kept their nickname and the a/b didn't matter. (both were head down)

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I had a c-section, and my baby A was born first. I asked who they would take first, because I know how "who is older" questions follow kids.  In my irrational pregnancy mind, it was important to me that the kid who was "supposed" to be born first actually was. "B" was breech.


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i seem to remember the lettering system is not exactly who is closest to the cervix, but actually who is bottom left and then in a circular manner, that way it is the same system no matter how many kids in there.  so starting at the left side of 6 o'clock and going clockwise.  and yes babies can come out out of order, specially in HOM.  so there are charts that read Baby A (formally known as Baby B) and such, i have a friend in my multiples group that gave vaginal birth to triplets and had them come in exactly reverse order and yeah it spooked everyone out, but their placentas (2) were side by side so it was really just a left right thing that got them their original a,b,c, names.

 

a even funnier note about her trips, she had picked out names that stated with A,B&C and ended up moving those names to their middle names because she said they where telling her to pick new ones with their new birth order, so she picked a new set of A,B,C names and gave them to the new order, so their first and middle names read like AC BB & CA  yeah i know it is really confusing and funny, a good story for them when they are older.


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I don't know how to answer this because when I asked my dr and ultrasound techs a similar question they said whoever is born first is called Baby A no matter where they were beforehand. They said they can not call any baby born first Baby B because being first automatically makes them Baby A. I was so frustrated because I really felt like my girls switched who was closer to the cervix in the middle of pregnancy and I had difficulty bonding because I didn't know who was who. They also said it was "impossible" for the babies to switch who was closer to the cervix at any point whether they were di-di (which mine were), mono-di, or even mono-mono which I also didn't believe. Oh well.

 

I had the same experience- confusion!  I was going to a MFM practice in my home town with mono-di girls and while I was with them, they were calling the twin on the left "A" and the one on the right "B."  Then my husband and I moved to a new city for his job when I was 26 weeks.  And the tech who scanned me said that B was now presenting, and she and the new MFM doctors went round and round about what they were going to call them.  I thought they said that B would be the new A, but then the pictures and reports they would discuss kept calling that baby B. A couple of weeks later I went in and one of the specialists firmly put her foot down that they needed to be changed.  It got confusing because B (old A), had an elevated cord blood flow doppler and I was constantly trying to make sure I understood who they were talking about, etc.  Sheesh.  Anyway, they have stuck with the new lettering, I'm now 36 weeks (well, in two days) and I'll be induced next Tues. at 36 weeks and 5 days, hopefully vaginally, since both are head down.  But they did warn me that if I have to be rushed in for a c-section, B could actually be born first.  dizzy.gif

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i was told and it makes the most sense is that the names on some level have to stay the same thru out the pregnancy

 

because the chart on how that baby mesured and what test were done on that child and such, if they just change it becasue of positioning or stange birth order, then they risk switching  that medical record up.  so i was told whatever they were called at the first measurement or test, they usally stuck with unless it was clearly noted, like in a birth order thing.


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I've only had one u/s so far (just found out it was twins on Friday!), and it wasn't with an MFM, but the doctor assigned A & B according to left/right.


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So, I asked my OB and she told me that she assigns A and B to whichever baby is born first after birth. Before birth A is closest to the cervix. 


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My A, B (and A, B, C with the triplets) never moved and always stayed in their designated places. And were all born in the correct order. :)


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And how are they? ((Begs for pictures))


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Holly i have a question for you and all the moms that say the will get reassigned at birth:

 

what about following and connecting charts and possible questions and issues in metro with what is seen or develops after birth? It seems absolutely important to have the charts continuos in case something comes up.  i would want ot know what for instance the NT measurements or Amnio results were in a child that was showing later some other soft markers for issues.  Or if some thing was seen on a U/s that cause a question about an organ of one of the babies, that baby might be followed closer in the early years to see if it turned out ok.

 

i dont every want to just bring up scenarios to worry preggo mommies, but this willy nilly attitude some of these doctors have about re-assigning A,B or C seems like a bad thing.  


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I have no clue shrug.gif

 

I have seen a serial number on their charts (there are two charts, one says "Zoller A serial #", and "Zoller B serial #") So, I supposed those serial numbers will follow them to my pediatricians office and then get assigned to their names? But I dont really know, Ill ask next time. 

 

 

The whole thing had me really stressed out until my OB told me that we will probably know by about 30 weeks which baby will be born first because I have such a small torso that there wont be a lot of room for movement after that. I can see that, and even with my singletons, both have stayed in their same position from 34 weeks on (until DD was manually flipped). Anyway, I'd be interested to know more about mamas who have had baby B born first-like was it something you all knew beforehand, or was it just like, "Holy Crap! B is just shoving a out of the way and making a run for it!"


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I haven't read all the responses, but we had baby A and baby B that "changed" mid pregnancy when they rotated head down, baby B was the one presenting.  So baby B would have technically been called baby A, but they kept their original letter assignments so they could accurately measure growth and developmental changes.  It was always really confusing for the techs when I went in, because I had to explain that baby A was not the one presenting.  In the end, when they were born they became numbers Baby 1 (B) and Baby 2 (A).  Which is what my friend says they did with her triplets too.  I kept their names and who was who straight pretty easy when they were in utero, because they did stay on the same sides (left/right), baby B just got her head down first :)  Also, when they start giving weights it made it easy to tell who was who when they are born...for examply my baby A was the bigger one (born second).

 

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The whole thing had me really stressed out until my OB told me that we will probably know by about 30 weeks which baby will be born first because I have such a small torso that there wont be a lot of room for movement after that. 

yeah my girl baby A got in line at my cervix at 18 weeks and never moved! (besides rotating sunnyside up for 4 crazy days at 34-35 weeks, boy that pissed her off!!)

though in that time my boy, baby B did just about every movement possible in the space he had left over from her


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I'm certainly not saying that you are being silly for worrying about this, at all. But dont worry about it. I didnt think of this at all with my twins because they are b/g. But the triplets I did, especially when we didnt know if the boys were ID (still don't) and because I had assigned names to them based on their birth order and in utero personalities. And because at the 20 week scan they were flagged for all kinds of 'problems' that were either going to be nothing at all, or a big deal, and I was worried that they would lose track of people, especially with the 12,000 staff in the deliveries. FTR: they were all nothing. 

 

There will be teams that are specifically assigned to each baby and they will be with that baby every second. They will be banded right away with A, B, C etc. Funnily enough, my baby B was readmitted to the NICU a while after being discharged for something totally unrelated to birth and was STILL Baby B Lastname even when Babies A and C weren't in the hospital anymore. 

 

With my triplets, they scanned me before I went into the c/s, and then while I was on the table for last minute presentation. It was obvious for us since baby A was jammed so far down into my cervix that there was absolutely no physical way anyone else could have got even a pinkie toe ahead of him, but they were still aware of it and made sure everyone was accounted for correctly. :) 

 

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Ahhhhhh! They are so adorable :) (yes, I was begging you for a picture!) I love them!!!!!


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squweeeeeee! cuteness


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Fireteam mom, they are adorable! So cute. And they all look very similar - if the boys are identical, they did a good job sharing their placenta since it doesn't look like too much weight differences. My boys (identical) were just a few grams off in weight. 

 

My ultrasound techs named the baby closest to the cervix and to the left baby A. At one point, however, baby on the right was closer to the cervix (A and B were my boys, at the bottom of my uterus, and my girl was stretched up top), and the tech named that one A. I argued with her, and said it didn't make sense to switch letters half-way through the pregnancy. She said that it didn't matter, that A was just who was closest at the time of the exam, period. I went in to my specialist dr and told her what had happened, and she said that was ridiculous. She said, as I would think would be common sense, that the same baby needed to be named the same thing throughout so we could keep good track of growth and any other issues. The doctor didn't really believe me that the tech had switched the babies -- she assumed that I had just gotten A and B mixed up in my own head. I didn't make any head-way with her, so I just dropped it. It was too hard to prove since the boys basically had the same weight throughout the pregnancy and were born with almost the same weight. At the next ultrasound, I got a different technician, and she went back to the old names. It just goes to show that there are confusions among colleagues in any field, and certainly in such a complex field as medicine. 


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Fireteam mom, they are adorable! So cute. And they all look very similar - if the boys are identical, they did a good job sharing their placenta since it doesn't look like too much weight differences. My boys (identical) were just a few grams off in weight. 

 

Thanks everyone!! Emaya, they were both 4'14, I dont know down to the grams though. They only had one placenta between them. Earlier in the pregnancy they couldnt see if it has fused or was actually one, but when they delivered they said they couldnt see any signs that it had fused and decreed it as one single placenta. Did your boys look identical in looks from day one? We can very easily tell them apart but no one else can. To me they look very different. I know we can get them DNA tested so I really need to do that just so I can stop wondering!! :) 

 

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I wish I could say that I can tell them apart, but I couldn't from day one, and I still can't at 9 months! Luckily, one has a raspberry birthmark on his head, so it's been easy since he developed it (about a week after birth), before then, we painted a toenail. But now, hair is so long, I have to do the braille method and feel for it on his head. I generally dress Forest in something green -- socks, at least -- so I can quickly see who is who all day long. 

 

But I've heared of identical twins that looked different from birth. Epigenetics, I suppose, where some small difference in environment -- even how they are positioned in the womb -- will turn on or off some genetic sequence that allows for great variation even between individuals who share the same genetic code originally. Are you going to have your boys tested?

 

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Just a lurker reading your interesting posts (I'm curious about one or two for me ;) ) but OMG momofafireteam....LOVE that picture share. <3 If I wasn't already pregnant my uterus would be twitching! LOL....Love a baby in a white onsie...but three of them together is just so much squishy cuteness...thanks for sharing! :)


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