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#1 of 19 Old 06-07-2005, 03:24 PM - Thread Starter
 
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when did you find out you were having twins? I am most interested in those who didn't have ultrasounds. Were you measuring big or what made you think that? My SIL is 25 wks and is measuring 36 but she doesn't want to get an ultrasound and refuses the doppler. Her MW only uses the Fetoscope on the baby. So, she keep thinking that maybe it is just abig baby but it seems pretty big for only 25 weeks ya know? What are your experiences and how did you know?
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We found out very early with an u/s, but I think I'd be suspecting it by now. I'm also 25 weeks and measuring about that big. My babies are big too (for twins), over 1.5 lbs each, which is average for singletons. Some of my symptoms that make this different for my other pgs, were that I had pretty extreme morning sickness, which I never had before, and now I notice movement on each side of my belly separately. One baby moves more than the other, so I'll feel tons of kicks on one side and not the other. Then in a while I'll get movement on the other side. But you can feel when one baby moves and the other one is sleeping, the sleeping baby doesn't move at all. If there were only one baby you'd be able to feel movement even in the side that doesn't move. Does that make any sense?
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I found out by US at 22 weeks, but if we had not had the scan I never would have suspected it. At 26 weeks I went on a business trip. Half of the clothes I wore that week were regular clothes with a little extra give and everyone commented that I didn't look 6 months pregnant with one baby, much less two. My midwife also didn't suspect that I might be carrying twins. When I came back with the US report she about fell off of her chair in shock.

I had no other symptoms that are "typical" of a twin pregnancy, in fact it was my easiest pregnancy of all of them.
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I think I knew before I even got pregnant that I would be having twins. I had not planned on getting an u/s, but I did end up getting one at 14 weeks because I was measuring so big. I think the reason I didn't want one was that I knew it was twins and that my mw would not do twins at home. I am glad that I found out, it is nice to be prepared for it. Right now I am 26 weeks and measuring 37. I have stayed pretty much 11 ahead. I was always ahead a little with ds, but not this much. Does she feel like she is having twins? I was soooo much more tired and sick those first few months and now I just feel like I should be giving birth any day instead of in 3 months.
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Never suspected twins until my first u/s at 11 weeks. Needless to say this was my reaction
I didn't feel any different from my first pregnancy. In fact, I had much less m/s and although tired, not quite as tired as I felt with my daughter. I must say though, I was HUNGRY from the get go and felt huge by 8 weeks. I just thought it was because it was my second pregnancy and my dd was only 1 year when we conceived.
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I found out early via u/s too (which is the only FOR SURE way to diagnose twins), but I remember thinking that I had no idea how anyone ever had surprise twins (no offense, Mary!) around 22 weeks when I was feeling so much movement EVERYWHERE. I don't know what kind of singleton baby could move like that. . . I also measured about 10 cm ahead. . . more at the end. I measured 53 cm when my boys were born at 38 weeks. I also had extreme m/s for the first 16 weeks or so.

I just can't imagine not knowing at 25 weeks.

I would be concerned for someone measuring that big and not getting checked out via u/s. There are other reasons besides twins that could cause her to be big-for-dates, and other than being wrong about her dates, twins is the least scary option.

Good luck to her!

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I measured right, gained 27 pounds, and had no pregnancy problems other than sore round muscles. Wore a prenatal cradle a few hours a day and that got me through. Gave birth a day before the due date. My first child was 9lb 10oz so I figured it was just another big baby. I had no us, not even doppler. We got a fetalscope reading around 6 months. There wasn't a lot of movement because the babies were big. At full term 7.5 and 8.2. Emily was sort of behind Lucas and his head was in my pelvis for over a month. I had a lot of lower pressure at the end. He also did all the work pushing out for about 2.5 hours, she popped out in 2 contractions, 9 minutes later.

I was also really nauseous during the first trimester, much moreso than 1st pregnancy. But that didn't really seem unusual to anyone.

Believe you me, this type of surprise can happen. Sometimes I think I wish I would have known so I could have prepared more, especially for my three year old, but I know it was meant to happen this way.

I guess the thing that should have clued me in was the fact that I could not drive during the last month because 1. the seatbelt wouldn't fit and 2. I couldn't reach the clutch with the seat so far back, and 3. the seat wouldn't go back any farther and my belly was rubbing against steering wheel!!

I'm not getting pregnant again because I'm 39, that was it for me. But if I was, I would have a few dopplers this time around.
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Wow, Mary, I can't believe you didn't measure big having such big babies inside of you! My MIL *almost* had surprise twins, but she measured big at seven months and was sent for a u/s. When her twins were born at 37 weeks, they weighed only 4.8 and 5.2. . . the size of a big single baby, and my MIL only gained 18 pounds during the pregnancy (and lost 22 at the birth). She was so incredibly sick that she didn't even look that pregnant until the very very end, but STILL her fundal measurements were bigger than they should have been (had she been having one baby).

I know what you mean about not feeling much movement at the end, though. . . I hardly felt any the last couple of months because my babies were just so smooshed, I definitely wouldn't have guessed there were two inside of me due to movement then. It was only around 23-25 weeks that the movements made twins seem obvious.

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Fifteen minutes after "Baby A" was born!

I didn't have an ultrasound, and our second twin was a complete and utter suprise!

I have their birth story already written up if anyone wants to read it, but it's really long....

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Oh my gosh Sarah!!! WOW! I'd love to hear your birth story. That must be a good one.
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Where to begin.....We had our dd at home with a direct entry midwife, and felt very positive about how it went. When we learned that I was expecting again when dd was about six months old, we initially planned to use the same midwife and have another homebirth. I called her, and learned that she was planning on retiring shortly after our due date, and she didn't sound very enthusiastic....She had been dealing with some serious health issues, and was just getting tired. After talking it over with dh, we decided to find someone else. I knew we had made the right decision when our midwife was relieved to hear it. She recommended someone to me, but I had had a bit of experience with her after our dd's birth and just didn't connect with her, so we decided to look elsewhere.

We learned that the lay midwives in the area just wouldn't work out for us. There were couple of ladies, but various friends' experiences left me feeling reluctant to use them, for different reasons....So, after much prayer we decided to have a hospital birth. I pulled out the provider's guide our insurance company gave us, and started making calls. After interviewing several different CNMs, we found Annie. She's a very sweet, older lady from India--which made me feel at home, since my former employers were Indian. She was a bit more into the technology end of childbirth than I really wanted--ultrasounds and whatnot--but she was just fine with us refusing them, also.

We refused the standard ultrasound--what would it diagnose, twins?--what were the odds, snicker....We did agree that I would have an ultrasound a few weeks before my due date, to make sure the baby's head was down. I had an uneventful pregnancy, although I seemed a bit bigger than last time. I'm big anyway, so it wasn't overly noticeable. I did have terrible heartburn for the last several months. We never once heard more than one heartbeat on the Doppler.

At about 34.5 weeks, I started having some contractions, so Annie put me on modified bed rest. Our dd was 13 months, so I had a lot of help caring for her, and lived on the couch for a week and a half....which brings us to the big day!

At about 2:30am on a Saturday morning, when I was 36 weeks exactly, I started having regular contractions. They were about 20 minutes apart, so I had a while to go, yet. I didn't wake up dh, but tried to sleep some more myself. I slept fitfully for a few more hours, waking up when I had a contraction and then drifting back off. At about 6:30 I realized that the contractions were about 10 minutes apart, so I woke up dh and asked him if he would like to have a baby today....He didn't believe me at first, because I was being so mellow, but the contractions really weren't that bad. We called Annie's office and learned that she was already at the hospital, because she was attending a birth. So, we called my parents' house and arranged to drop off dd on the way, and then headed to the hospital.

When we got to the hospital, I was having contractions about every five minutes. Thankfully, we didn't have any problems getting admitted or anything, even though we had not yet pre-registered. Dh was able to stay with me the whole time. The admitting nurse had me put on a gown, and checked me--and I was at 6cm! This was very different than my previous labor! She also did a quick ultrasound, to make sure the baby's head was down. She saw a head, and turned off the machine.....Later, we had a fetal monitor high on my belly, monitoring the baby's heartbeat--we figure now that they saw a baby on the ultrasound, got a heartbeat with the monitor, but they were two different babies!

When we got to my room my mom arrived. She was a great support during my previous labor, so we really wanted her there--and it turned out that it was important that she was there this time, also! Annie came in and examined me, and confirmed that I was pretty dilated, but the baby was not putting much pressure on my cervix. She said I could expect to deliver about a 7.5 lb baby, given my size, even though it was early. She also told me that I would have to have an IV put in, because it was hospital policy with preterm deliveries to give an antibiotic.....sigh....not a big deal, though, since I'm not a walker during labor. I laid quietly on my side for a couple of hours. The Bradley relaxing method really helped me during this labor, and I felt as though I handled the pain pretty well. At some point, they asked to put a fetal monitor on, and since I could still lie on my side it didn't bother me.

At about 11:45 Annie checked me again, and said I could go ahead and push. I was really surprised, because I hadn't gone through the incredible pain that I had felt in my first labor. In fact, I even asked, "Did I miss transition?" She just laughed.

I pushed a couple of times, and then Annie broke my water, and the dilation went back down to about an 8, so she said she would wait for me to feel like pushing again. It didn't take long, and at 12:15pm little Charles Edward was born. He was 4 lb 8 oz, and looked like a scrawny little chicken--but he was beautiful to me! It didn't really register to me that he should have been bigger, since I was so enthralled with my baby boy. I held him right away, and was cooing over him and playing with his tiny little fingers. My mom called home and told everyone I had had a boy, and Daniel called his mom. One of the nurses took Charlie to clean him up a bit and weigh him (we waived the eye drops), and Annie checked me to see what the hold-up was with the placenta--and felt hands and feet!!!! She said, "There's another baby!" I said, "How is that possible?!!?!?!!" Daniel hung up on his mom, saying, "Mom, there's another baby, pray!"

Suddenly everything got very serious very quickly. Annie called for an ultrasound, stat, and did a quick swipe over my belly--and I saw a baby's face. There seemed to be twenty people in the room, and they all seemed very anxious. A gentleman came in, with his jacket on, and examined me, and then talked with dh and me. He told us that the baby was doing okay for the moment (they had put the monitor back on), but that he was compound breech and transverse--hands and feet first, and sideways! He said that if this were my fifth or sixth pregnancy, he would try to turn the baby, but since it was only my second he thought my uterine muscles would make it too difficult. He also thought that might be too stressful for the baby, and cause him to go into distress. He was very gentle as he told us that it was his recommendation that we have a c-section, but it was our choice. Dh and I agreed very quickly that we didn't want to try to turn the baby, but that we should go ahead with the cesarean. (We later learned that this gentleman--who did the c-section for us--was the high-risk OB, who delivered all the triplets and many of the twins in our area. He was not on call, but was providentially there to check on a patient--God is so good!)

As they prepared to take me to the operating room, I got worried--I didn't want Charlie left alone in the nursery! I was relieved to see that my mom was holding him. I later learned that while they were prepping me for the surgery, dh was lecturing the nurse that no-one was to take Charlie away from my mom! I am grateful to this day that Charlie spent his first hours being held by his grandma, who loves him, rather than being alone in even the nicest of hospital nurseries.

The c-section was uneventful. Dh was there with me, holding my hand. I didn't see the baby, and he didn't cry right away--they whisked him off to the NICU right away. When we heard he was a boy, we decided to name him Owen Richard. Then I went to the recovery room, and dh went to the NICU. Owen was fine--no problems breathing--but his legs and arms were horribly bruised from the position he was in while I was contracting.

I was pretty dopey after the surgery, and just slept for a while. Soon I woke up, though, and I wanted my babies!!! Dh came in with Owen, then, and I got to meet him for the first time....he was tiny, too--only 4lb 10oz. He was sleepy, and I was, too--so we snuggled and I thanked God that he was safe.

Later, when we were all settled in our room, dh and I just sat and looked at the babies and said--there's two of them!!!
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Update: Our guys are 4yo, now, and have always been very healthy. They were breastfed exclusively until they were about 9mo (with me pumping for the first 2.5 months, because of their weak suck). They got onto the growth charts for full-term babies by their 1st birthday, and are now solidly in the 50th to 75th percentiles for their height/weight.

They are identical, but we keep their hair cut differently so we can easily tell them apart. They are very different in personality--Charlie is more introspective and tends to be a bit quieter; Owen talks and talks and talks--and whines--and talks some more! They are outgoing, fairly easy-going preschoolers--very into their bikes, trucks, legos and imaginative play....and dh and I still sometimes look at each other and say--there's two of them!

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All I can say is AMAZING! I mean what a shock to find out during pregnancy it's twins...but to find out at birth!!! Oh my gosh! Your story is amazing!
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That is an amazing birth story, thank you for sharing it!
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Amazing stories mamas!

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oh, wow! Great stories. Thanks for all of your input. My SIL went to her MW appointment and she felt around and said she thinks it is 1 big baby but she did have only one hand because she broke the other. I am still not convinced bc she doesn't have big babies or long ones for that matter. 7lb range and the longest was 19. This will be her 5th or 6th, lol. : We shall see though, maybe she will be able to tell better next visit if her cast is off. Or we will know for sure in late August.

Any more stories are welcomed!!!
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I was 28 weeks and measuring only 4 cm too big, my regular mw was out of town and her partner recommended i go for an us. I had had horrible morning sickness too, but that happened the second pregnancy as well. I was 30 weeks by the time I knew for sure baby a was head down, but to the back, and baby b was on top in a transverse position-although she turned for birth. My singleton moved way more than the two did together but it was my first sowhat did I know? Your sil may KNOW there are twins but may be convicted about her right to birth them at home with her mw. she may be tring to avoid the whole cascade of interferance

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I did not get a standard ultrasound during my pregnancy.
I didnt feel any different either. It was an easier pregnancy than my single pregnancy the year before (of a huge baby that I swore a million times over HAD to be twins!)
At 20 weeks I wasnt even showing. I mostly forgot about beign pregnant up until that time too. ( ds was 7 months old when I foudn out I was pg, so I was pretty busy)
At 28 weeks, I had only gained about 8 lbs but all of the sudden I went from nothing to looking like I was at term. My midwife suggested I go on the diabetic diet because I have large babies (Ds was 11lbs 2 oz) and was a little concerned that I was measuring big. But we decided to wait and see.
It started to sink in then that I was likely having twins but I was also in denial. I kept reasearching polyhydramnios and birth defects which would make me measure big.
I had also been about to switch to a lay midwife so I could have a homebirth.
But I was really having a sinking feeling.
I remember breaking down crying at the Babies R Us because what if I had twins? I woudl have to get a triple stroller! Would I have to wean Tristan? HOw could I sling three babies?
If I did not already have an infant I might have switched to a lay midwife anyway and disregarded the concern over being big. Part of me knew the risks of learnign I was having twins meant giving up any hope of a homebirth. But I really felt that I needed to know so I could prepare.
At my regular visit at 28 weeks I had a different midwife who checked for the hearbeat at any random spot (instead of the spot she had always found the heartbeat) The hearbeat was found on the opposite side and it was a different rate than usual. I was a little suspicous, but I didnt bring it up. It was "almost confirmation" for me. But babies move and heatrates go up and down.
So at 32 weeks I was still measuring big, and my midwife was concerned about the cause (largely because if we stayed with her it was to have a birth center birth) becaus it might rule me out of the birth center.
I was really stressing. And by then I really wanted to know. Even though a part of me didnt want to know kwim?
So 3 days later I got an ultrasound at 32 1/2 weeks and it was indeed twins.
The ultrasound made it impossible for me to have a homebirth (attended by a licensed midwife anyway).
In my opinion, if your sister is willing to be prepared for whatever the result, there is probably no reason to really push the diagnosis. Part of me wishes we never 'officially" found out so that I could have still had a homebirth.
But I really wanted to know.
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