Ack... I'd really like to sit here and write out a well-thought response to each and every comment/question raised but... I just can't get around to it!
To touch on a few issues off the top of my head - the LC I am seeing is NOT connected with the looney tunes hospital I had my wee girlies at. She is at the hospital I had my son at and was reccomended by my pedi who I trust. (He is very on board with bf'ing the twins and chose to focus on the babies having good color, good suck reflexes, and being well hydrated rather than the fact that they are soooo tiny) I guess her "specialty" with lactation has always been twins... but then her daughter had twins and she says she got to see first hand then what advice of hers was good and what had to go. So I trust her but as with most things I can see arguments for and against the advice she gave and who knows maybe it wouldn't hurt to get a second opinion.
I can understand the argument that nursing is best, more stimulating/draining than the pump, etc ... but really, it is just NOT an option for us at this point. Try as hard as I might I can never get the girls through more than 2 let downs - and usually only 1. They will be active enough through that one letdown but then they zonk out and NOTHING will wake them - it's like I have boobs of ether. It will seem like they are sucking a lot but before/after weighs show them to only be taking in 1/4 - 1/2 ounce - it is very disheartening.
DH is obsessed with weighting before and after and it's kind of stressing me out but he's just like "so don't ask for the numbers" but if he's taking the numbers I want to know them!!! We are weighing them in a popcorn bowl on top of a digital kitchen scale... we will have hilarious babies pics when they are older!!!
They are just too tiny and sleepy and I really think the best option is to let them sleep, eat, and grow while maintaining supply so they can nurse more effectively. They will take the bottle better but fall asleep at points even then, too. My main concern is my supply doesn't seem to be growing... I guess because it's not really being challenged like when your baby has freaky non-stop nursing spells during a growth spurt.
I am glad to see others understand the "nursing just isn't working!" problem what with falling asleep and spending too many calories etc.
I think DH and I will try nursing at night and not just pumping - since I seem to get only 1 - 1 1/2 ounces whether I nurse or not, I may as well get a let down in for each baby - then pump - it will be something more. I think I will try to pump more during the day, too. I wish I got more than an ounce at a time ... but I guess every ounce I can stash up is one ounce less of formula to use.
I checked out that video on compression/pumping and I am trying it but it's not doing me much good. Maybe with time... The good news is though the video was from Standford hospital which I am right near so the "local resources" link was helpful to me.
I am going to try to find somewhere to try out a Symphony pump and see if it does me any more good than the Lactina.
Ermmm, what else... my blood pressure medicine is safe while nursing... I have help in that DH is off work for a month ... then he can take 3 more weeks off if needed... and/or his job lets him work from home so that is a possibility, too... then maybe MIL will come out...
That's all I can gather the brain cells together to answer right now. I DO appreciate all the replies and will chew over all the opinions and advice.
I can't believe how different this is from my son... he NEVER went more than an hour without nursing... and I complained!!! I guess an impossible nurser is way worse than an over-zealous one. I keep telling my girls they need to be more like their brother.
Maybe in a few weeks... we'll see.