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Hi mamas,

So, I have been planning on going to nursing school but I ended not getting the money I needed to start this fall.

I have a ba in humanities that I owe 40k. If I go back for a ba, I will only receive 17 k of stafford loans and then I will need to take out private loans if I choose to get a bsn

If I go to grad school, I would get grad plus loans and I wouldn't need to take private loans.

My ideal situation would be to work as a labor and delivery nurse, eventually becoming an ibclc and possibly a nurse practitioner.

If I went to grad school, I have no clue what I would do.

So, basically the dilemma is the private loans.

Any suggestions?

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I wouldn't go to grad school if you really want to be a nurse just because of money/loan issues. You'd end up more in debt plus you'd still not be pursuing your passion.

Have you looked into other loans or grants for nurses? I know our school has a special loan program for nursing students in addition to the stafford. I would talk to the financial aid dept - they might be able to help.

How many years will you need to attend? How much beyond the 17K would you need?
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If you go to grad school they have nursing specialties. There's Nursing Administration, family nurse practitioners, nurse educators, clinical nurse specialists and more. So you will be working as a nurse.

Call up the Graduate Nursing Program & ask them what they offer. You should get an idea of where, exactly, in nursing you will be working.

Since you already have a BA, I wouldn't bother with a BSN. Even without a background in nursing, I'm pretty sure you could finish a Masters before a BSN. So less time + higher powered degree. Also, many BSNs are impacted & really hard to get into due to the number of applicants. Not so much with Graduate School.

I'm thinking of going into a Graduate Nursing school. Personally, I know I want to focus on Nursing Administration, or, as my sister the nurse calls it, the 'horrible paper work side' of nursing, lol.

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I would try and do an accelerated program that allows you to get your BSN AND your MSN in 3 years (and sometimes less). You will likely have to do about a year of pre-reqs before you can apply but you skip a step with these programs because you can become a Nurse Practitioner after you finish this program.

I am doing a similar program.

These programs are designed for non-nurse college graduates. In some of them, you are considered a grad student from the start and can get grad plus loans. Others, you are considered an undergrad until you get your BSN and move on to the MSN portion.

Look into programs called accelerated BSN or accelerated MSN. Programs are also called GEPN or MEPN programs. Do a google search.

Any questions, let me know! I start my program in just a few days

There are so many of these programs around that you can find one I'm sure to fit your needs.
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I would try and do an accelerated program that allows you to get your BSN AND your MSN in 3 years (and sometimes less). You will likely have to do about a year of pre-reqs before you can apply but you skip a step with these programs because you can become a Nurse Practitioner after you finish this program.

I am doing a similar program.

These programs are designed for non-nurse college graduates. In some of them, you are considered a grad student from the start and can get grad plus loans. Others, you are considered an undergrad until you get your BSN and move on to the MSN portion.

Look into programs called accelerated BSN or accelerated MSN. Programs are also called GEPN or MEPN programs. Do a google search.

Any questions, let me know! I start my program in just a few days

There are so many of these programs around that you can find one I'm sure to fit your needs.
I have been researching for months and I didn't realize they had a direct entry msn. : Jeez, where is my head. I'm sure going to need it for school. Do you know if there are any that do distance learning?

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I have been researching for months and I didn't realize they had a direct entry msn. : Jeez, where is my head. I'm sure going to need it for school. Do you know if there are any that do distance learning?
I don't think so. It would be difficult to do a nursing program that is distance learning...

There are distance MSN programs where if you ALREADY have your RN, then you can do the MSN/NP portion as a distance program. But, I haven't heard of any distance RN programs if you only have a non-nurse Bachelor's and not your RN yet.

Are you in CA? CA is the sunshine state, right? I know that in CA there is a dearth of nursing school programs (many of the students in my program are from CA) and many have to relocate to other states b/c there just aren't enough schools.

So...I know you don't want to be a midwife, but this list helped me a lot when I was doing my research. The ACNM has a list of direct entry CNM programs. The list is relevant to you because the CNM option is only one of several Advance Practice Nursing Specialties at these schools so take a look: http://www.midwife.org/eduprog_options.cfm?id=2

This list is not by any means exhaustive...Check out the Univ. of Vermont Program (http://www.uvm.edu/~nursing/?Page=pr...rams_menu.html)

DePaul: http://las.depaul.edu/nursing/Progra...rams/index.asp

So many others...
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No, I'm in Florida. Is California the sunshine state? heehee, I had no idea

Anyway, I have looked on allnursingschools.com and I don't see anything except for Barry and it doesn't really say much on their website so I assume the don't have one.

Going to look at the links you provided...thanks so much for your help.

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No, I'm in Florida. Is California the sunshine state? heehee, I had no idea
You would know better than me! It must be Florida then because I was just too lazy to look it up
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Hi again,

Kimji, I just googled direct entry cnm and found your post on all nurses.com. Congrads on starting your new program. I wish I could move for school but I'm going through a divorce and my mil is moving here in two weeks so I just don't see that happening.

I'm going to call Barry tomorrow and see what they say. Thanks again.

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Hi again,

Kimji, I just googled direct entry cnm and found your post on all nurses.com. Congrads on starting your new program. I wish I could move for school but I'm going through a divorce and my mil is moving here in two weeks so I just don't see that happening.

I'm going to call Barry tomorrow and see what they say. Thanks again.
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Yes, this sort of program does often make it difficult to stay in place but I hope you can find other options for your circumstances. I hope Barry has good news for you
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