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#61 of 144 Old 01-28-2011, 12:29 PM
 
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I think the most you can do is, AFTER the baby's born, if he or she has proven to indeed be a dream baby who sleeps all the time and indicates the desire to BF by wriggling or snuffling rather than roaring... you could talk to your professors (with your adorably sleeping baby in the sling, so they can see you're telling the truth!) and ask if they'll make an exception. It's always possible, especially as the policy doesn't specifically say "Not during lectures".

 

I remember a baby coming along to one English lecture one time - a slightly older baby, she was crawling up and down the aisle at the side. Honestly, it was distracting, because I love babies and kept gawking at her. :p Then again, because I love babies I wasn't annoyed by it at all. I thought it was rather nice, actually. But I can see why everyone bringing babies could have been a problem. Go to any church where babies are allowed in the service, and you'll see people have vastly different ideas on what constitutes "acceptable noise" during the service. Some will whisk their babies out the back if they so much as wake up, while others will let them bellow for three or four minutes by removing them. Assuming churchgoers aren't, on the whole, significantly less considerate than college students, allowing any and all babies in probably would result in some significant distractions. I like the thought of a more relaxed, non-lecturey, family-friendly environment, sure; but that's not where most unis are these days.

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Swede, could you maybe trim some of your quotes?  We don't need to repeat the entire chain of conversation every time.

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But what if her baby ISN'T A distraction???!!! 



In the event that the OP's baby isn't a distraction, great!  And if the professor doesn't mind, she can bring that baby to lecture.  However, even the most undistracting baby imaginable would not be appropriate in the situations the professor has specified:  in seminar, where rooms are small and student participation is vital; in professional operations, where children who are not patients are not only in the way, but also a potential source of legal liability; in simulations, where students will presumably be doing things besides sitting and taking (or not taking) notes; and during exams.

 

In ANY educational setting, professors have the discretion to permit or forbid students from bringing children to class.  The professor always has that option.  Because of this fact, no one should plan to bring a child of any age to class on a consistent basis.  If you are in school, you need to make childcare arrangements for class times.

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Yeah, babies are a distraction.  They are not silent, and you can't count on them to be silent b/c they can and do start screaming unexpectedly (which is hugely disruptive even if mom leaves soon after the screaming starts).



This exactly.  I had a nice little quiet newborn... for about a week.  Of course that's ignoring his really *loud* breathing (he also hums while he's sleeping).  Now he does this thing where it seems like he's sleeping until he screeches out of the blue.  No warning.  Even if I were going to get up and leave as fast as possible everyone's concentration on the class has already been broken.

 

PLUS a baby doesn't have to make any noise to be distracting.  I'm sure at least someone will remember before they had kids just jumping at the chance to look at the cute little newborn someone is carrying/pushing through the mall.  For some people just *knowing* there's a cute little baby in the room will take away from their focus.  Many people won't care but for others it will be a constant temptation to go over and watch the little one sleep.


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But what if her baby ISN'T A distraction???!!! 


Even if the baby isn't a distraction, if the professor doesn't want the baby in the classroom, OP is not going to bring the baby into the classroom without a major distraction. And if the university doesn't want the baby in the classroom, honestly, there's not much she can do to get around that, even if the individual professor is sympathetic.

 

Having so many other women in the program in the same situation makes it worse for OP, probably. It will be nearly impossible to make a special exception for her distraction-free newborn if the same treatment is not given to all 7 other women.

 

Further, even if all of the women have sleepy, non-distracting babies, they're most likely going to cry out, or have a loud fart/poop, or something once -- and the perfect baby who is distracting one time multiplied by all 6-8 babies equals a lot of distraction.  

 

ETA: I don't want to sound overly pessimistic here. Since you're in a position where someone you know and trust can care for your baby while you're in class, and you probably only have to be separated from the baby for at most 50-80 mintues at a time, and if the baby needs to nurse, you can step out of class to so, you are in a good position to be able to breastfeed successfully even though you have to go back to school so soon, should you be physically able at 2 weeks PP. Having DH in the hallway texting you is not ideal, but it's much better than trying to pump and bottle-feed that early.
 


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PLUS a baby doesn't have to make any noise to be distracting.  I'm sure at least someone will remember before they had kids just jumping at the chance to look at the cute little newborn someone is carrying/pushing through the mall.  For some people just *knowing* there's a cute little baby in the room will take away from their focus.  Many people won't care but for others it will be a constant temptation to go over and watch the little one sleep.


I really dislike this attitude.

 

Babies exist, and they sometimes even make noise.  University students also sometimes: tap pencils, pass gas, have coughs, have phones go off, wear clothing meant to attract attention, sneeze, breathe loudly, wear too much perfume, etc.  

 

Obviously, infants have the potential to be more distracting than that (crying and loud bowel movements come to mind...), but if someone finds the mere existence of an infant distracting, then they need to grow up and get over it.  shrug.gif

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Im just throwing this out there and I haven no idea out the situation but the college may have a student who is not allowed to be around children under the age of 18?   You dont always know who is in class with you.  There very well could be a student on probation, parole, something else and by you bring a child to class that other student would need to drop the class or re-arrange their schedule mid-semester.  You honestly dont know who is sitting next to you in lab, in lecture ect.


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Im just throwing this out there and I haven no idea out the situation but the college may have a student who is not allowed to be around children under the age of 18?   You dont always know who is in class with you.  There very well could be a student on probation, parole, something else and by you bring a child to class that other student would need to drop the class or re-arrange their schedule mid-semester.  You honestly dont know who is sitting next to you in lab, in lecture ect.

I'd be very surprised if this is part of the reasoning.  Most colleges/universities allow students under 18 to attend, if they pass the acceptance/placement exams.

 

I think it is, sadly, more a case of what some previous posters have said, that just the idea of a baby is distracting :(  So. sad.
 

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another really disappointing idea I've seen expressed here (and in the past, too) is "why should she get a break (ie, being able to bring abby to class) when I didn't?  I will never understand that sentiment. 

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Um, my newborns were NEVER quiet.  When they were sleeping they were tossing and turning and grunting and when they were awake they were either crying or nursing, and when nursing, they were slurping and choking and then of course burping and farting!  haha

 

Don't over-dramatize it.  The school is not attempting to ban breastfeeding in class.  Perhaps the real issue is that you are feeling guilty for having to leave your baby and instead of accepting that and working through it you are blaming the school?  I could be way off base, of course.

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Why can't you simply complete the course as "independent study"..............check with the office in the school that deals with students with disabilities........and students with medical issues........maybe they can point you in the right direction.....but that independent study thing might be the best answer.........you pretty much finish the course at home per instructor/school's permisson


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I wish someone would bring a baby to my classes. I think it would be relaxing to hear baby noises.

 

I take my kid to school sometimes. Its never been a big deal. She is quieter than the majority of the adults ;)

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I agree with previous posts...an academic class (regardless of it's subject) is no place for a baby, child, or anyone else not enrolled in the course.  You should definitely find someone to care for the baby while you go to class.  I don't think you would get all you need of your classes with your baby distracting you either.  Nursing is a serious profession and you need to receive all the information the course has to offer.


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(nak) Just wanted to chime in with support to the OP. I am an academic mama who was halfway through a BA when DS1 was born. We had a major hiccup with childcare when I started back to school when he was 3 months old that left me with no choice but to ask my professors to bring him to class. Fortunately I had two great profs and an amazing T.A. that allowed me to do so. I always sat in the back by the door, nursed him as needed, and took him out of the room the second he made a peep. As he got older, later in the semester, I did wind up taking him out a lot and missing a decent amount of class. Prior to that though he slept through about 85% of it.

 

I don't know if it would work, but could you ask your professors if you could bring the baby to class? It may be a long shot with the new policy, but if you explained the situation, then maybe. Or offer to do a trial basis.

 

I agree that the best solution would be to have a helper watch the baby on campus, then you spend time nursing between classes and step out if need be. Either way I would let you professors know what's going on so they understand why you're in and out. You may be surprised, they could be very understanding! I hope so :) Even now in grad school my advisor turned out to be a father of two (whose wife is also an academic in our dept) and is super supportive of me as a student mother.

 

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Food for thought. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1314283/Licia-Ronzulli-brings-baby-EU-Parliament.html

 

ETA: Posting the above link to show that some institutions do not feel the need to ban babies.

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Um, my newborns were NEVER quiet.  When they were sleeping they were tossing and turning and grunting and when they were awake they were either crying or nursing, and when nursing, they were slurping and choking and then of course burping and farting!  haha

 

Don't over-dramatize it.  The school is not attempting to ban breastfeeding in class.  Perhaps the real issue is that you are feeling guilty for having to leave your baby and instead of accepting that and working through it you are blaming the school?  I could be way off base, of course.


I agree with this.  I really hated it when professors let kids come to class because they were very distracting in a way that the usual college noises are not.  There also may be another option after you have your baby besides putting off your schooling for a year.  At the university I graduated from they often worked with mothers who gave birth in the middle of the semester by allowing them to finish their classwork at home and still get credit or accept an incomplete and finish the course work the next semester when their baby would be a little older.  I think that a newborn is going to be especially distracting because it takes time to learn what the cues are, each child gives off very different cues.  You are also going to be very drained of energy from childbirth and the demands of a baby.  By the time your child is three months old you should know her cues very well and your child will be able to be offered milk you pump while you are in class.  I think you should talk to your adviser and your professors to see what can be worked out and check to see what the university policy on child birth is.  

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OP, I think going in with the assumption that newborns sleep all the time and when they are not they are nursing, is a very poor assumption to go in with. This is not just a poor assumption in this particular college situation, but just in general. The reality of parenting is often highly different.

I have three kids.
One child was HIGHLY colicky, and refused to nap more than 20 minutes during the day. At 15 months, she finally started to nap.
One child, dropped ALL naps by six months. Before then, her naps were fairly short. She also became easily bored in a room. She wanted to take in the world. There is no way, she would have tolerated being in one place for the length of a lecture.
My last child, was the ony one I would have had a chance to take into a classrooom. Even with him, I believe I would have still had difficulties. He was not one for sitting still in one spot, and would have become bored.


I am sure there are some kids out there that sleep all the time, but I sure did not have one.


For the person that stated that babies give cues before they start crying from hunger... Again that is an assumption for many babies.
Two of my three kids, did give cues....the rooting, gnawing on their fist, etc.
I had one child that literally gave no cues. She would be happy, and then suddenly start screaming. She is in grade school now, and still does not easily recognize when she is hungry, until we are past the point of no return and is starving.


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(nak) Just wanted to chime in with support to the OP. I am an academic mama who was halfway through a BA when DS1 was born. We had a major hiccup with childcare when I started back to school when he was 3 months old that left me with no choice but to ask my professors to bring him to class. Fortunately I had two great profs and an amazing T.A. that allowed me to do so. I always sat in the back by the door, nursed him as needed, and took him out of the room the second he made a peep. As he got older, later in the semester, I did wind up taking him out a lot and missing a decent amount of class. Prior to that though he slept through about 85% of it.

 

I don't know if it would work, but could you ask your professors if you could bring the baby to class? It may be a long shot with the new policy, but if you explained the situation, then maybe. Or offer to do a trial basis.

 

I agree that the best solution would be to have a helper watch the baby on campus, then you spend time nursing between classes and step out if need be. Either way I would let you professors know what's going on so they understand why you're in and out. You may be surprised, they could be very understanding! I hope so :) Even now in grad school my advisor turned out to be a father of two (whose wife is also an academic in our dept) and is super supportive of me as a student mother.

 

Good luck, hang in there! You are not alone and you can do this!


The OP has stated that there are 6-8 people in her class expecting babies.  ONE baby might not be a huge distraction.  5 absolutely WOULD be a distraction.  Even 2 or 3 babies in a class would be too many.  The professors will be unable to make an exception for one mother, and not for all of the mothers. 

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(nak) Just wanted to chime in with support to the OP. I am an academic mama who was halfway through a BA when DS1 was born. We had a major hiccup with childcare when I started back to school when he was 3 months old that left me with no choice but to ask my professors to bring him to class. Fortunately I had two great profs and an amazing T.A. that allowed me to do so. I always sat in the back by the door, nursed him as needed, and took him out of the room the second he made a peep. As he got older, later in the semester, I did wind up taking him out a lot and missing a decent amount of class. Prior to that though he slept through about 85% of it.

 

I don't know if it would work, but could you ask your professors if you could bring the baby to class? It may be a long shot with the new policy, but if you explained the situation, then maybe. Or offer to do a trial basis.

 

I agree that the best solution would be to have a helper watch the baby on campus, then you spend time nursing between classes and step out if need be. Either way I would let you professors know what's going on so they understand why you're in and out. You may be surprised, they could be very understanding! I hope so :) Even now in grad school my advisor turned out to be a father of two (whose wife is also an academic in our dept) and is super supportive of me as a student mother.

 

Good luck, hang in there! You are not alone and you can do this!


The OP has stated that there are 6-8 people in her class expecting babies.  ONE baby might not be a huge distraction.  5 absolutely WOULD be a distraction.  Even 2 or 3 babies in a class would be too many.  The professors will be unable to make an exception for one mother, and not for all of the mothers. 


Maybe the other mothers won't ask.  I really don't see the harm in asking.

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(nak) Just wanted to chime in with support to the OP. I am an academic mama who was halfway through a BA when DS1 was born. We had a major hiccup with childcare when I started back to school when he was 3 months old that left me with no choice but to ask my professors to bring him to class. Fortunately I had two great profs and an amazing T.A. that allowed me to do so. I always sat in the back by the door, nursed him as needed, and took him out of the room the second he made a peep. As he got older, later in the semester, I did wind up taking him out a lot and missing a decent amount of class. Prior to that though he slept through about 85% of it.

 

I don't know if it would work, but could you ask your professors if you could bring the baby to class? It may be a long shot with the new policy, but if you explained the situation, then maybe. Or offer to do a trial basis.

 

I agree that the best solution would be to have a helper watch the baby on campus, then you spend time nursing between classes and step out if need be. Either way I would let you professors know what's going on so they understand why you're in and out. You may be surprised, they could be very understanding! I hope so :) Even now in grad school my advisor turned out to be a father of two (whose wife is also an academic in our dept) and is super supportive of me as a student mother.

 

Good luck, hang in there! You are not alone and you can do this!


The OP has stated that there are 6-8 people in her class expecting babies.  ONE baby might not be a huge distraction.  5 absolutely WOULD be a distraction.  Even 2 or 3 babies in a class would be too many.  The professors will be unable to make an exception for one mother, and not for all of the mothers. 


Maybe the other mothers won't ask.  I really don't see the harm in asking.


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Why on earth should the OP think it should not/ would not apply to her? I am a teacher and my husband is a professor and I can tell you right now that even asking is going to ruffle feathers and show an awful lot of entitlement (which, frankly, the existence of this entire thread already shows).
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(nak) Just wanted to chime in with support to the OP. I am an academic mama who was halfway through a BA when DS1 was born. We had a major hiccup with childcare when I started back to school when he was 3 months old that left me with no choice but to ask my professors to bring him to class. Fortunately I had two great profs and an amazing T.A. that allowed me to do so. I always sat in the back by the door, nursed him as needed, and took him out of the room the second he made a peep. As he got older, later in the semester, I did wind up taking him out a lot and missing a decent amount of class. Prior to that though he slept through about 85% of it.

 

I don't know if it would work, but could you ask your professors if you could bring the baby to class? It may be a long shot with the new policy, but if you explained the situation, then maybe. Or offer to do a trial basis.

 

I agree that the best solution would be to have a helper watch the baby on campus, then you spend time nursing between classes and step out if need be. Either way I would let you professors know what's going on so they understand why you're in and out. You may be surprised, they could be very understanding! I hope so :) Even now in grad school my advisor turned out to be a father of two (whose wife is also an academic in our dept) and is super supportive of me as a student mother.

 

Good luck, hang in there! You are not alone and you can do this!


The OP has stated that there are 6-8 people in her class expecting babies.  ONE baby might not be a huge distraction.  5 absolutely WOULD be a distraction.  Even 2 or 3 babies in a class would be too many.  The professors will be unable to make an exception for one mother, and not for all of the mothers. 


Maybe the other mothers won't ask.  I really don't see the harm in asking.


I do.  She has other options.  She should utilize them.  They don't cost extra money, her baby would be with her HUSBAND (who I'm assuming should be trusted with his child?????) or her MOTHER (who I'm assuming isn't toxic???)

 

I think asking a professor to bring a baby to class should be an absolute LAST resort, and only used when NECESSARY.  Husband falls ill and can't take care of the baby?  "Professor, it won't happen again but I really need to bring my baby to class today, if she causes a disruption I'll take her out."  Another child in the family is sick and husband has to take care of that child?  Same thing - as a ONE TIME exception, not as an every single class time exception.

 

A professor's rules should be respected.  This is not an anti-mother rule - its for the class to be productive, which is really hard when there are babies.

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That policy is just wrong.  If it were me, I'd take a stand and if they didn't come to their senses I'd consider organizing a nurse in.

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A majority of my college courses had someone with a baby, usually more than one.  And I might add that I have had classes at a private religious college, a community college, and several state colleges.

 

In every class, the mama sat in the back, had baby in a sling or other such thing, and left when baby got funny.  Heck, in one class we had a mama, her newborn and her 3 kids- EVERY class.  Tell you what, I ran into her several years later, and her kids value education and mama time.

 

OP- talk to your profs.  If they say no, start planning your plan B.  You may even get away with the first 1-3 weeks of having your bundle of joy with you, and then you will need to utilize plan B.

 

And I don't see this thread as seeking entitlement.  One never knows the answer til they ask the question.

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I don't think you can file a complaint on the ebf angle bcs they are not banning bf just not allowing children. The law states anywhere a mother and child are otherwise authorized to be and your child is not authorized to be in the class.

I had ds2 just before the semester started. I had to take the class. I knew the professor and she was very hesitant but agreed to a trial period. I brought ds in the sling, nursed him if he started to move and it worked great. I brought him for a few months until he could go longer periods then dh would just meet me outside of the  classroom 1/2 way through class. It is entirely up to your professors but since you have the option for your dh or mom to be outside of the classroom (or nearby) then I just think you need to let the professor know when your child needs fed you will be qtly excuusing yourself. I think the idea of a txt is great. I think you can totally work this out but I don't think you can go from the angle of I deserve this and I have to have this accomodation. It needs to be more on the lines of this is what my baby and I need, how can we make that work? Good luck.


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The OP has stated that there are 6-8 people in her class expecting babies.  ONE baby might not be a huge distraction.  5 absolutely WOULD be a distraction.  Even 2 or 3 babies in a class would be too many.  The professors will be unable to make an exception for one mother, and not for all of the mothers. 


Maybe the other mothers won't ask.  I really don't see the harm in asking.


I do.  She has other options.  She should utilize them.  They don't cost extra money, her baby would be with her HUSBAND (who I'm assuming should be trusted with his child?????) or her MOTHER (who I'm assuming isn't toxic???)

 

I think asking a professor to bring a baby to class should be an absolute LAST resort, and only used when NECESSARY.  Husband falls ill and can't take care of the baby?  "Professor, it won't happen again but I really need to bring my baby to class today, if she causes a disruption I'll take her out."  Another child in the family is sick and husband has to take care of that child?  Same thing - as a ONE TIME exception, not as an every single class time exception.

 

A professor's rules should be respected.  This is not an anti-mother rule - its for the class to be productive, which is really hard when there are babies.

I am really shocked by the vehemence some posters are showing towardsa a mother trying to think outside the box, and keep her baby with there.  Sdly, I am sure that for some posters, this stems from the fact that they weren't able to do the same :(  Please ,op, don't let hte naysayers dissuade you - there is NO harm in asking.  It is extremely reasonable to ask, based ont he assumption that your baby will not be disruptive.  I wish more women would consider standing up for their, and their babies', rights and needs.

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A majority of my college courses had someone with a baby, usually more than one.  And I might add that I have had classes at a private religious college, a community college, and several state colleges.

 

In every class, the mama sat in the back, had baby in a sling or other such thing, and left when baby got funny.  Heck, in one class we had a mama, her newborn and her 3 kids- EVERY class.  Tell you what, I ran into her several years later, and her kids value education and mama time.

 

OP- talk to your profs.  If they say no, start planning your plan B.  You may even get away with the first 1-3 weeks of having your bundle of joy with you, and then you will need to utilize plan B.

 

And I don't see this thread as seeking entitlement.  One never knows the answer til they ask the question.


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Why on earth should the OP think it should not/ would not apply to her? I am a teacher and my husband is a professor and I can tell you right now that even asking is going to ruffle feathers and show an awful lot of entitlement (which, frankly, the existence of this entire thread already shows).

 

It wasn't so long ago, that babies WERE entitled to be nursed by their mothers, and the mothers also were able to continue on with their lives.  If the mother feels physically up to it, then I really don't see the problem.  The entitlement to me, is from people claiming the mere presence of a baby is distracting. 

 

It is really interesting to me that the people most upset by the idea of the OP bringing a quiet baby with them to class are those women who didn't even try to do so, and were thus seperated from their own children.  I am sorry for your losses, truly.  But why not objectively conisder wht the op is asking, instead of reacting only to the fact that you didn't try to do the same?


 

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Why on earth should the OP think it should not/ would not apply to her? I am a teacher and my husband is a professor and I can tell you right now that even asking is going to ruffle feathers and show an awful lot of entitlement (which, frankly, the existence of this entire thread already shows).

 

It wasn't so long ago, that babies WERE entitled to be nursed by their mothers, and the mothers also were able to continue on with their lives.  If the mother feels physically up to it, then I really don't see the problem.  The entitlement to me, is from people claiming the mere presence of a baby is distracting. 

 

It is really interesting to me that the people most upset by the idea of the OP bringing a quiet baby with them to class are those women who didn't even try to do so, and were thus seperated from their own children.  I am sorry for your losses, truly.  But why not objectively conisder wht the op is asking, instead of reacting only to the fact that you didn't try to do the same?


 


Because its on the bloody syllabus! Its exactly the same as asking to change the assignments, or skip the reading or something. If its on the syllabus chances are the prof has given it thought and made the call. So what you are advocating is that the OP march into the professor's office and say "Hey, I know that the syllabus says no kids in the classroom, but I think I ought to be able to bring my baby anyways." Is that not the very definition of entitlement?!

You are making an awful lot of assumptions about the nature of babies and about everyone's tolerance of them. I find this thread very interesting because I am all about kids being allowed to appear almost anywhere, but, I just cannot agree with this. It has never been nor will it ever be appropriate to bring your baby to class with you. If you need to in an emergency that's a different scenario, but to assume that toting a kid to class with you (no matter the temperament of the kid, no matter what), just because you should be entitled to as a matter of course makes me dizzy.gif.
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you're sorry for our LOSSES?  only reacting to not trying to do the same??  you are making assumptions while being very condescending.  My kid didn't DIE.. sorry for my loss?  my goodness.  we are talking about bringing a kid to a CLASS... not being away from them for days or weeks at a time.

 

my problem has nothing to do with 'not trying to do the same.' and its ridiculous to assume that those of us with a problem with babies in class are just jealous that we didn't or couldn't and therefor don't want OP or anyone else to do so.  I'm pretty sure we are all adults here.  That would be vindictive childness to just want the OP to keep her kid out of a college class because we did.  It is perfectly reasonable to not want little babies in EVERY single situation mom might want to be in.

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Why on earth should the OP think it should not/ would not apply to her? I am a teacher and my husband is a professor and I can tell you right now that even asking is going to ruffle feathers and show an awful lot of entitlement (which, frankly, the existence of this entire thread already shows).

 

It wasn't so long ago, that babies WERE entitled to be nursed by their mothers, and the mothers also were able to continue on with their lives.  If the mother feels physically up to it, then I really don't see the problem.  The entitlement to me, is from people claiming the mere presence of a baby is distracting. 

 

It is really interesting to me that the people most upset by the idea of the OP bringing a quiet baby with them to class are those women who didn't even try to do so, and were thus seperated from their own children.  I am sorry for your losses, truly.  But why not objectively conisder wht the op is asking, instead of reacting only to the fact that you didn't try to do the same?


 



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I think you should try what you are most comfortable with first - and if that means filing a complaint, do it. You go to the college, and you are probably the most familiar with how it works and what might be feasible for you and your baby on the way (btw, congratulations!) I like the texting idea as well if you can't have baby with you. Also, maybe consider putting the baby in a sling while you are in class, so you can just nurse him/her back to sleep without much disruption. I mean, I agree with you about newborns sleeping away the hours, and a seminar is what - 3 hours? The baby probably wouldn't peep, and if he/she did...then you could excuse yourself.

Otherwise, I might even consider asking the class about it? - policy or no policy. Just take a minute or two and tell them how much it means to you and that you do not want to it to interfere with class, but that it means a lot to you? It's obvious that you don't want to disrupt anyone or cause a problem, you just want to do right by your baby and get your degree...no harm there mama! I give you a lot of credit for doing it.

Good luck!

 

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My little one slept in one of these for the first 2 months of her life, while I got laundry, paperwork, cleaning etc done in the house...and I wanted her with me. :) I bet you could get 6 weeks out of it to finish your degree in peace!

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