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hi.. i had a thread in health and healing re: my bleeding. well, the crappy news is that it hasn't disappeared yet. this is day 12 and this morning i had a HUGE clot. the dr. at emergency is pretty sure it's an 'anovulatory cycle' or menorrhagia (sp?). i'm kinda scared, and amn't sure what it could be. the dr. said to come back if it doesn't stop on it's own, and he'll give me something called 'premarin'. i'm very skeptical, because of side effects, and that it is not recommended with undiagnosed vaginal bleeding.. also i can't breastfeed once i've taken it. i am wondering if anyone's ever had experience with this, and what they did to treat it (could alternative remedies even work for this?). thus far i do not believe i have anemia, but it is a concern at this point, with all the heavy bleeding. yeeks! any suggestions?? thank you..
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I went to a military doc with the exact symptoms you described. His only answer was to put me on birth control pills. Of course, I refused, since I was nursing my 7 mo ds at the time. However, upping your water intake, plus taking Floradix and/or chlorophyll can help keep your iron up while you are bleeding so heavily. Sorry, it really is stinky to bleed for no reason.
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I second the Floradix, Chloraphyll regimine. Do you have a Naturopath near you? The ER doc is probably not sure what is going on so he just said to take the meds. I would be worried too. I am not sure why you would bleed for no reason, there has to be a reason, YK?
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hi, thanks for the replies! i shouldn't be pregnant anyway, but they did a test on my blood, and it's not a miscarriage.

ilmbmta, did you also have large and/or many clots? how long did yours last? how did you manage to stop it?

earthmama and carriebeary, thanks for the recommendations. i've been eating a lot of spinach, but the extra iron is probably a good idea (hey- little plug for vegetarianism- on my 9th day of heavy bleeding, my red blood count was very high; 140 or so.. but i've been bleeding a lot since, so who knows anymore).
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I've been having very heavy bleeding with clots each month for about a year now. I bleed for anywhere from 12 to 25 of the 28 day cycle. Its heavy enough that sometimes I will soak through 2 forms of protection in 20 minutes. After a few days of this I have bruises all over my body. The real mystery, I always ovulate on day 15 of my cycle even when all this is still happening.

I've been to several doctors. Since we are TTC they have been very unhelpful. There were 2 options, 1) birth control pills (wouldn't take those even if not TTC b/c they give me migraines) 2) some drug that started with a P. It may be the same one you are mentioning. The doctors weren't very confident about me trying either approach because either approach would interfere with ovulation and they were unsure they could start it back up again in the future.

I'm playing with my medications (I previously had thyroid cancer) and out of desperation last month I finally started using Natural Progesterone Cream. The bleeding stopped! I don't know if this is safe while breastfeeding but that wasn't an issue for me. We are still waiting to see if this helps in the long run and if it interfered with ovulation. I went with this approach rather than the prescription because it was just more in keeping with my general philosophies and I wanted to avoid taking any more drugs that would have to process through my digestive system.


I hope you find something that works for you.

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does this sound like the symptom to anything else that i should be concerned about, to anyone? the dr. did a few blood tests (for certain bleeding disorders, lukemia etc, i think..), and they were negative. but, if i go to a herbalist tonight, and not the hospital/walk in clinic, is there any risk at this point, other than anemia? i'm worried, but i'm not especially weak (tho a bit), and i know it will be hard to talk them out of the drugs if i go to the hospital. and avoiding unnecessary drugs is very important to me.. thanks!
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pumpkin, thanks. man, that really sucks. i'm sorry you're going throo that. may i ask how long your bleeding generally lasts? and do you ever get huge clots (like 3 inches in diameter-- well, at least when it splatted on the floor)?
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The bleeding lasts anywhere from 12 to 25 days. Luckily most months I don't have super heavy bleeding every day. On a good month maybe only 4 days where I basically can't leave the house. Thankfully I have a job that allows me to work from home.

I've passed some clots that I couldn't believe came out of my body. I used to think a ping-pong sized clot was big. The largest that I examined was about the size of my hand. I've been there when it comes to the splat on the floor. I think the largest ever was baseball sized. Pretty scary.

Even when the clots are huge, I still couldn't understand why the cramps were so bad. I finally had someone explain that my cervix was dilating to pass the clots. It doesn't take away the pain, but knowing that little fact made things much less frightening. Now I know to just work with the pain and allow my body to do what it needs to do.

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Have you had your thyroid checked -- if not, ask for a thyroid panel (it is a blood test). Also, ask your doc to consider just putting you on progesterone, which is okay while nursing.

I read in a journal that women with a history of heavy bleeding (since the onset of periods) should be checked for bleeding disorders; that a significant number of inherited, genetic bleeding disorders go undiagnosed or are misdiagnosed, and that a primary symptom is chronic heavy periods.

Hope this helps. I'm sorry your body is out of whack!
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I had very light bleeding for nine months straight and then began hemmoraging (though I don't think I ever had clots). The only thing that worked was Moxa (sp?) sticks. The results were absolutely amazing. I believe people call it Moxabustion. You get those sticks and burn them about 1/4 - 1/2 inch from to space between your first and second toe.

The book in my sig has a lot of good info on stuff like this if you can get a hold of it from your library or whatever. For your specific condition she recommends acupuncture, extra vitamin A & E, among other things.

I hope this gets resolved soon. Good luck mama.
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So sorry you are going through this too! I have systemic lupus and one of the many issues from it is my cycle is all dorked up. I have anywhere from 2 to 6 periods a year.. spread out over the year. I have been going for about 27 days now and it blows. I hope yours settles soon.

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wow.. hope it's okay that i find some comfort in the fact that this isn't unheard of.. sorry that so many of you have to deal with this on a regular basis

sorry to take so long to get back.. i couldn't afford the few bucks to get on the net for 15 mins, and i finally got access on a friend's puter..

the bleeding finally stopped on day 18ish. i'm going to look into my thyroid.. also that's interesting about the bleeding disorder. when i first had my periods, for years, they were 8 days and heavy as hell. the first 4 days couldn't even move. i'd lay on the floor in a ball rocking back and forth moaning and in SO much pain. it was hell. finally got on some weird drug for dysmennorhea.. but since my first baby my periods have been only 2 days, light, and no cramps!

but i think it was probably stress that caused this.. mennoraghea (or something). lots going on and a full time job, etc.

so thank you all for the well wishes! i offer many to you all, as well..
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p.s.

i went to an old chinese herbalist who did accupuncture and helped me relax etc, and the bleeding stopped for about 8 or 9 hours (it had been consistent before, with only an hour or so between). so just a plug for accupuncture!! it works (never had it before).
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that sucks..

yeah i thot that i might have fibroids, and the second time i was in the hospital, i asked for an ultrasound and he said i was too young (almost 26) and wouldn't give one. drs NEVER take my concerns seriously.. so i hardly ever go to them.
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Bleeding like you describe is "normal" for me, too. I freak out when I have a light period with bright red thin blood, because that is not what I normally experience. Painful menstruation is not normal, under any circumstances! Pain is your body's way of telling you something is wrong. Painful menstruation plus heavy, clotty periods sounds like you may have endometriosis (fibroids are also a possible explanation, the two often go hand-in-hand). It would be a good idea to look into that possibility, and if you think that might be the case, find a specialist in your area (or not too distant, like a day's drive away or less) who knows how and has the skills needed to treat such a disorder.


I might be mistaken, but I think Premarin is just a synthetic progesterone/progestin, and is perfectly safe to take while breastfeeding. Yeah, it does come through your milk, but there is no evidence of any adverse effects from it and most docs consider it to be safe. If it actually helped you, you are most likely looking at a problem with estrogen dominance, which is a major sign that you do indeed have endo. Natural progesterone cream also helps for the same reasons, but not for everyone. I have good results using wild yam cream instead.
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i'm so sorry to hear that... that must have been SO stressful (and like you needed more stress at a time like that!)

on a lighter note.. i met my soulmate 2 months ago (like seriously, there's no doubt!!) and he's from guatemala! thot that was neat!

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stafl, thank you... i will look into that further if it happens again. it's pms time so i'm going to make sure i have as little stress as possible this week!

regarding premarin, i didn't take it.. the bleeding just stopped on its own, and my hemoglobin count was still high on day 15 or so, so it wasn't a necessity. i read that you shouldn't use it while bfing, but i suppose they say that with just about anything since it's hard to have conclusive evidence about eventual effects etc. i really hate taking synthetic drugs of any kind, for a myriad of reasons, so i really hope i don't have to face that possibility again. and if i do, i will probably do accupuncture again. daily if necessary.
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