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I am so mad right now that I honestly think there is steam coming from my ears like in the cartoons!
About a week ago I had a little run in with a woman who felt it was her job to tell me how to parent my child. I'm guessing she had seen me in the grocery store with dd in her baby trekker (perhaps she was even one of the 2 people who asked me if dd could breath properly ) Anyway, when I left the grocery store I put her back in her carseat (bucket) made a phone call to dh then drove to the bank-in the same plaza. Dd had fallen asleep when I opened the door and it was -8 celcius-she is a very light sleeper for the first 10 minutes or so, so I made the judgement call to pull up in front of the bank machine and leave dd in her carseat with the truck running but locked and one of German Shepherds in the back with her. I felt that taking her bucket out of the base would surely wake her and the cold air would startle her. I could see the truck at all times from where I was. The tint on our back windows is so dark that you would not know there was a dog or child in the back unless you saw in when I had the door open. So I'm out of the truck for less than 2 minutes and this woman basically jumps me when I walk out of the little glass enclosure, she starts yelling at me for leaving my baby in the truck, I'm irresponsible, someone could steal her, in the 2 minutes I was gone someone could jump in the truck and take off with it and my baby, etc, etc. I wait patiently while she finishes her rant and I say "M'am, the baby is sleeping, it is very cold out and I was within sight at all times" To that she called me a horrible mother and again stated that anyone could steal my baby in a matter of seconds. So I look at her and said "I don't think so". She asks how I can be sure so I tell her to try to "take my baby" and said "I'll even unlock the doors for you first" well she walks up to my truck, puts her hand on the door handle and suddenly 100lbs of German Shepherd flings himself at the door She jumps about 10 feet and I said to her "as I said, nobody will be stealing my baby" Then she starts ranting to me about having a vicious dog in the truck with the baby and tells me that's even worse than leaving the baby unattended--Oh brother--of course all this time she's 'educating' I'm leaving the baby in the truck, no more unattended than she was during the time the woman is bitching about. So I blow her off and get in my truck and drive away.

Fast forward to today....

I get a mid afternoon knock on my door, I answer to see an officer standing there. He asks me to please put the dogs away. I tell him I don't feel that is needed and place both dogs on down stays 10 feet away and ask him what the problem is. Turns out this woman took down my plate number and called the cops telling them I was an unfit mother and that my babes life is in danger from these horrible dogs. He says she called herself a dog trainer--I tell him I am a dog trainer, have been for 15 yrs and had never heard her name before. Basically he talks to me for a couple minutes, hears my story and agrees the woman is off base, apoligizes and leaves. I wasn't too angry while he was here, but now I'm just livid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't commonly leave the baby in the truck-as a matter of fact this was the first time, does anyone think I was really that out of line??
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No, you're not out of line. You handled yourself just fine in each interaction.
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OMG how stupid!
The woman NOT YOU!!! Your child was not unattended regardless, she was being attended to by the dog :LOL
I could see if you parked your car across the parking lot, got out, left the doors and windows open, took your time at the bank. Honestly, some people really NEED lives of their own! Can you make a complaint about her?
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I'm sorry that happened to you
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OMFG!!!!!!!!!! Shannon that is beyond horrible! I remember you telling the story about this psycho woman last week! I never thought she would have called the cops on you! WOW! Too bad she isn't a dog trainer (or one you know about) so you can mess with her back! Wowee! What a nerve she has!!!!!
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oh man, I loved your response to her offering her to try and take your baby


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Psycho woman!

Would that you had responded: "Are YOU threatening to STEAL my BABY! Back away from me. Back away from my truck. I'm calling 911 now. Thank God she was safely locked in my truck with a theft protection device (dog) and not in her carseat sitting on the floor by me, easy for you to grab and go! Stay away from us!!!"
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O-M-G! That is so awful! I'm really sorry you had to experience that. I'm glad the actual visit with the officer went okay though. I was :LOL @ the part where you showed her your dog! All these stories about that guy...I SO want to meet him!

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hehehe, yeah, maybe I should have accused her of wanting to steal her
I'm almost sorry now that she didn't get the door open and end up with a dog hanging off her arm-my plan if she had gotten the door open (which I seriously doubted she'd be able to do) was to out the dog before he could make contact with her (he actually is trained to bite--so there would have been broken bones, not just a wee puncture) but now I'm regretting he didn't get to bite her--afterall, I could then say the dog was just protecting the baby and deny telling her to try to open my door :LOL

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M.A.N., we have a few, but not in my small town-and not for my bank-so I just parked illegally.
Unfortunately the small town has the affect of people not minding their own business. A few years ago some woman followed my truck and when I pulled into a parking lot and got out she ran up to me pointing to a leash that was hanging out of the back--it had just fallen out when the dogs were getting in. I tend to be a bit sarcastic and looked at her, looked at the leash, put my hands on my face and said "Oh My God--where do you think the dog went????" She called the cops too and they were waiting for me when I came out of the store. : Fortunately the officer thought it was hilarious.
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sounds like a great dog and you handled it well.

my only additional comment would be not to leave the truck running next time. i did it once in a gas station parking lot. the truck jumped out of gear and rolled backwards into a pump and caught on fire. $20,000 in damage later...

probably wouldn't happen, but not worth the risk.
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I can't believe some people!! She sounds totally off her rocker. I'm sorry you had to deal with that s.
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Psycho woman!

Would that you had responded: "Are YOU threatening to STEAL my BABY! Back away from me. Back away from my truck. I'm calling 911 now. Thank God she was safely locked in my truck with a theft protection device (dog) and not in her carseat sitting on the floor by me, easy for you to grab and go! Stay away from us!!!"
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I'll be the odd one...

It's not cool to keep your baby in the car unattended even if you've got a pooch in the back.
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Wolfmama, actually the truck can't slip into gear, I shut it off and used my remote starter to restart it so the heat would be on-that's another reason it couldn't be stolen, there were no keys in it and if you touch the brake pedel it shuts down. But yes, I've heard of that happening--I hope nobody was in your car!!
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I'll be the odd one...

It's not cool to keep your baby in the car unattended even if you've got a pooch in the back.

I agree. Although I bet that is a great deterant!

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No thank goodness. It was years ago. It was an old Bronco. Normally my dog would have been with me but luckily I did not take him that day. Glad to hear that could not have happened.
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I'll be the odd one...

It's not cool to keep your baby in the car unattended even if you've got a pooch in the back.
For the most part I agree, but in this situation, what would your concerns be? I did weigh this all out before I exited the truck. By taking her with me; she would most definitely wake up, which would result in a screaming baby while I drove home because if she's woken when she first falls off she just gets up angry and is extremely hard to settle--add to that that she hates the bucket and the truck... also, it was very cold and very windy, even covered up, she'd have the shock of going from nice and warm to VERY cold, as another poster mentioned, to use the machine, I'd have had to set her and her bucket down-because of Havoc in the truck, she'd have a better chance being snatched sitting beside me than in the truck and I was only gone 2 minutes-maybe-well, at least until this woman attacked me. The biggest worry I was able to come up with would be that she would puke and choke while I was out of the car-this was pretty unlikely and I know that something like that would make Havoc start to bark so I'd have heard him and been able to get to her in about the same amount of time it would have taken me to get off the road if we had been driving-KWIM?
So...all that in mind--what would your concern be--in this specific instance--because I agree with you--it is not cool to leave a baby unattended in a car, this was just a case where I really thought it was the right choice.
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: I'm sorry Shannon, that woman is a loser, and it's not you I'm laughing at. But the thought of her opening the door and the dog. And the dog leash. :

I'm glad the police were on your side. And, to be honest, I'm glad they followed through, some people aren't as good a mom as you.
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Good for you for handling it so well! I wish I could have seen her face when the dog suddenly appeared in the door! :LOL

Her overly-strong reaction is really odd. Makes you wonder if she personally knows someone who had a child abducted.
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OH man Shannon...if they only knew the history behind getting Molly, huh? :LOL And Havoc, the mama dog, in the car - it would have been IMPOSSIBLE for anyone to take her.

I am not a big fan of leaving kids in the car - but with that cold and the situation...i agree with you totally. I probably would have done the same.

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I generally agree to never leave a kid, especially a baby, in the car but I really think it depends on each situation. The weather, how many feet away from the vehicle you are, if you're really keeping your eyes on them the whole time, etc. There's the kidnap factor which is the least likely problem (taken care of by the big German Shepherd anyway :LOL), the weather factor (could they overheat, get too cold), and then just if something happens or they need you and you're not there. It sounds like this was not an unsafe situation.
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It's not cool to keep your baby in the car unattended even if you've got a pooch in the back.



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Hadn't thought of that Fianna, it's possible, but still, she'd have gotten farther aproaching me and telling me she was concerned and given the reason--The cop told me what she'd said to him and she'd totally lied to him, she said the dog was going nuts in the truck--she neglected to tell him about her approaching the truck and placing a hand on the door--I know for a fact he was not going nuts, he's trained not to act unless there is a threat or someone places a hand into the vehicle--I was a little surprised he went off before she managed to pull up on the handle, I guess he was just being extra protective of his baby She also told him I went into the bank to a teller--which I did not.
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I know Adina, sometimes I feel like shouting out to people "do you have any idea what it took to get this baby here???" Especially when people give me dirty looks or coments on the carrier, or give me other 'advice'
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I know Adina, sometimes I feel like shouting out to people "do you have any idea what it took to get this baby here???" Especially when people give me dirty looks or coments on the carrier, or give me other 'advice'
I was thinking the same thing.

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...--she neglected to tell him about her approaching the truck and placing a hand on the door--I know for a fact he was not going nuts, he's trained not to act unless there is a threat or someone places a hand into the vehicle--I was a little surprised he went off before she managed to pull up on the handle, I guess he was just being extra protective of his baby
Dogs are great judges of character. Maybe he "knew" what a loon she was! :LOL
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not meaning this snotty but I'm not sure how it's relevant how long it took to get baby?

I don't think the circumstances that you described are a problem, but I also don't see how difficult it was to become a parent is pertinant to parenting decisions. It almost implies that those that struggled with infertility (which I have myself) are more careful, love their kids more or whatever. We all are doing the best we can.
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Hmmmm, very thought provoking--and I agree Arduinna. I guess from my perspective after 3 losses and the pregnancy from hell it's more a case of *after all I went through to get her here, I'll be damned if I let anything happen to her now that she's here* That said, I totally agree that if I'd carried to term with a beautiful first pregnancy, I'd be the same mom (well...maybe not...I found MDC after my first mc)
I suppose I'm guessing that the percentage of not so good parents is higher in the population that has zero trouble getting pregnant and carrying to term, in that if your heart wasn't really into be being a mom, you'd be pretty unlikely to go through the hassles of conceiving with massive medical help and huge costs and less likely to continue a pregnancy where you were hospitalized for much of it. I'm guessing, but of course I've never been on the other side so I don't know.

It's like when my mother in law was so kind to call me after the 3rd miscarriage just to tell me that miscarriage was "God's way of telling me it's wrong to have children out of wedlock" my response to her was "then why doesn't he have any issues with a 16 yr old crack head getting pregnant by accident and carrying to term?? Is he saying that the 16 yr old crack head would be a better parent than dh and I would--just cause we're only engaged?"
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