Join Date: Jul 2003
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to OP -- your aunt maybe 'working her adgenda" to get you clean up that has nothing to do with CPS -- just like my mom used to tell me mosters only living in messy closets, and hid under beds if there werer toys to play with....
I worked with kids int he system for 9 years (as a house parent in a group home for kids in state custdy and at an amergncy shleter -- at the shelter we got the kids that were court orded out of the house, or on a very rare occsion a kid pulled out of a life or death situation who's case would be in court the next morning -- still there on judge's order -- we give the kids a home while the court decided to give them to family, send them home or what, or some times for the 6 weeks a family was given to fix things befoe teh child was offical taken, kinda like protective custody).
Rarely did i have a child who had been pulled for the condition of the home -- that is more common the younger a child; a 2 yo might be pulled where as a 10 yo would not be -- but that is based ont he precieved SAFTY and a 10 yo is assumed to be safer in a mess an a 18 month old. the few times i had kids who were pulled for such situations it was waaaaaaaaaay beyond "messy" and more like "condemed". no water, plumbing not working, rats (not mice, rats), human poop and animal poop all over, roaches that would fight you for stuff.......no clean clothing int he whole house, grimy bed sheets......
i have never seen, or personally heard of, a kid pulled for -- dirty dishes (rotten dishs maybe) or an unmade bed (an uncleaned pee soaked bed where the whole house reeked, maybe).........toys that are safe, but messy, nope -- broken glass and knives laying around, maybe.....not only have i not seen it, i haven't heard the sotries for other workers, kids or the like....
the issues are HEALTH and SAFTY and yes they are related to the age of the child.....but still. We are not talking house keeping style here, we are talking neglect and endangerement.
BUT -- even when i had (twice that i can think of) kids pulls for envionmental reasons; the family was given cleaning services; adn the child retruned in 6 weeks without ever really being in the system, we housed them till the house could be cleaned, and the family was given services as the parents really had processing problems. in a case of something like that -- whre the child is not activly being abused or neglected -- no one wants to pullt he kids, frankly there isn't enough room for the ones being beaten, why pull more? the family gets help, and maybe educatation classes......
Actually -- being homeless is not even grounds for looseing you child -- it is not, in and of itself, considered endangerment or neglect (though it could be argued that is is easier to deminstarte E or N in the homless setting); though i think in some states you can be required to stay at a shelter.....we returned a boy to a mom living in a homeless shelter beacuse she was working with the soical worker to get low rent houseing and agreed to stay at the shelter so the boys could go to school.
I think your aunt is talking as an aunt who thinks her neice needs to clean, not as a CPS worker.......
come on -- CPS doesn't pull the kids, the court has to order it...and what CPS worker wants to tell a judge to pull kids based on unwashed breakfast dises and toys all ove rht efloor?? these poeple have bigger issues to deal with, and have their rep to think about too.
ETA: My house is pretty messy right now, we are 1/2 out of storage, and the houseis literally just now being finished around us...i hate it...but it will be better soon....but i am confident that any worker can come in and be ok with us....even though this is the wrost my house has ever been and it is freaking me out, personally.
Aimee + Scott = Theodore Roosevelt (11/05) and 23 months later Charles Abraham (10/07)....praying for a little sister; the search starts May 2014