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#1 of 14 Old 10-17-2003, 09:47 AM - Thread Starter
 
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I know this should probably be somewhere else(health and healing- spirituality?), but I wanted to see how many on here have suffered from sleep paralysis. (so can we leave it here for a bit?)

I didn't know what it was for quite a long time, the first time I brought it up to a Dr. was during my last pregnancy, prior to that, I had mentioned it to my mom and my dh (who both thought I was crazy or imagining things, although they didn't say that ). I told my OB about it, and she said she didn't know what it was, and that I probably just needed to sleep more. Well, she was probably partly right on that.

For those who don't know it is a state that happens generally when you first go to sleep, or when you are waking up, where you are awake and aware, but cannot move your body. For me it is very scary, and many have hallucinations during this time that make it even scarier, although all I have is real fright about the fact that I can hear everyone around me (dh and the kids) but I cannot get up and can't signal to them for help, the worst for me is when I nap with the kids, and one of them wakes up, I can hear them up and around, but I can't get myself up to be with them

Anyway, today, I finally starting looking for info on it. I found some interesting things- like how much more likely it is in the supine position (sleeping on your back), which makes total and complete sense to me, considering how I have it by far the worst when I am pregnant (I am usually a total tummy sleeper, and my back hurts when I sleep on my side due to arthritis). Also, people who suffer anxiety disorders are more likely to have it, I have had periods of anxiety myself, although nothing requiring medication. I also saw something that related it to a heart condition (which during my last pregnancy I had a lot of episodes of rapid heart rate, for no known reason).

Anyway, I am interested to know what others know about this, and possible ways to help. Many of you may be interested to read about how you can use the periods to have an "out-of-body" experience, which I simple have no interest in, I just want to have it not happen anymore!

So, suppossedly 6% of people have had at least one episode, and 3% have it once a week, so there must be some other mamas on here who have this happening too.
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I have episodes, but always when waking from a nap rather than after a full night's sleep. It can be scary, but I've always assumed it meant my body needed more sleep, and managed to relax enough to drift off. Then, when I wake again, I find I can get out of bed.

Do you have any links to information? I just started working in sleep medicine, and while I'm relatively informed about things like narcolepsy, sleep apnea, and circadian misalignment, I know next to nothing about sleep paralysis.
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I looked up sleep paralysis when this was mentioned here before in a thread in a different forum, I think.

I thought it interesting reading. I don't know if this is the same type of experience or not, but one time I woke up in the middle of the night, I was laying on my side, facing my dh. He was facing me as well.
When I woke up, I looked at his face and I saw him doing weird and crazy things with is eyes. They were opening and closing, and his eyeballs were moving all around. It made his face look odd. It scared me, and I layed there and watched him doing that for what seemed like a few minutes, but I am sure it was only for a few seconds. However, I just closed my eyes and went back to sleep. I should clarify that I could see his face by the t.v. on in our bedroom, but with no sound. Sleeping with the t.v. on for light is a thing I do so I can have light in my room. Long story, don't want to get into it on this thread....

When I awoke in the morning, I asked him if he was awake and making faces at me in the middle of the night and he laughed and said "No". I told him my experience and he thought it was weird, and told me I must have just dreamt it. This same thing has happened to me about 4 times now. I have no idea what it is. I can move my body, but my mind sees him doing weird things with his eyes. It is really scarry looking.

After reading about how the body can be awake, but the mind still in a dream state allowing me to see things that really are not there, I felt better. I think they have a name for this other than sleep paralysis, because I can actually move, but I really am seeing something that is not happening.

I agree, I think this thread should be here for a little while. I hope the Mods do not move it just yet. I am curious as well as to how many others might have experienced something like you, or something like me.
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http://www.stanford.edu/~dement/paralysis.html

This page has more links at the bottom. It is funny, when I used dogpile to look it up, I found mostly things about how to have an out-of-body experience with it, or about the terror some people face, or connecting it to alien abductions:

So, next I tried webmd, and they had nothing about it, the disorders you mentioned are there, but this is not, and interestingly, this is more common, from what I have read, than the other sleep disorders.

An interesting point I saw was that people are often reluctant to talk about it, even with their Dr. for fear of being assumed "mentally ill"

I also have them almost exclusively at naptime, and for a while I thought it was connected to being overheated (fully clothed and then a blanket on top), but the other day I had it and I was cold, but the "on the back" makes perfect sense, sense b/c I nap on the couch, so there is no rolling form side to side, and belly down is out at this point, so I have been just going to sleep on my back.

The scariest time I ever had was right after having ds, I was napping on the couch with him chest to chest with me, and I was very scared that he would fall of off me. Makes me somewhat nervous about co-sleeping with a little one, what if I woke paralyzed with my arm over a newborn or something? I think we are going to sidecar the crib for this baby anyway, now I have one more reason to stick to that.

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I know how you feel, it is good to know the name, if only so you can find ways to *hopefully* prevent it, which I am hoping for me will be as simple as napping on my side I know I need more sleep, but just can't always seem to get enough

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connecting it to alien abductions
:LOL i knew it!! j/k

Sleep paralysis has happened to me too. It's one of the most terrifying experiences i've ever had--i usually feel like screaming when it's happening, but of course, i cant make any sounds at all. Knowing what it is while it's happening definitely helps though.

I think it's interesting that some of you have noticed that it happens more often when you're sleep deprived...i've been getting enough sleep lately and havent had SP happen to me for ages.
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I should specify, the connection to alien abductions, is that "specialists" are saying that people who think they have been abducted are probably actually suffering from hallucinations during a time of sleep paralyzation, not that people who have been abducted get this happening, although, I am sure you could find that said too:LOL

I also try to scream and can't, I think that knowing what it is does help somewhat, but I still tend to panic, I am that kind of person. I also find I have to fall back to sleep to re-awake *correctly*.

I know this is a controversial thing, but having been through this makes me especially interested in the Terry Sciavo case, I can't help but wonder if how I feel during the sleep paralyzation, is what she feels like non-stop:

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Yup, I usually experience this a few times a year and exclusively, it seems, when I am sleeping on my back (which I rarely do). It is normal for the body to be in a semi-paralyzed state during sleep, but when a certain part of your brain "wakes up" and gives the sensation/knowledge of consciousness it doesn't always override the paralysis. It used to freak me out completely, but as I became aware of it as a sleep phenomenon it isn't as terrifying. Whenever I have an episode, I mentally start trying to force myself to move a finger or two. Usually, once I can get movement from a hand it kicks the brain out of the asleep/not asleep state into full (if not somewhat breathless!) consciousness. After a few moments of collecting myself and rolling off my back, usually I can get back to sleep.

It ain't fun....but it doesn't really hurt anything either. Unfortunately, I don't know of any way to make it stop permanently...sorry.

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yeah that has happened to me too. If I fall asleep on my back it happens (not recently) so I don't fall asleep on my back. I always found it very scary because I always feel like I don't need to breathe anymore. That freaks me out.

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I spent some time in college studying sleep and asked the guys I interned for what that sleep paralysis is all about. This is what they told me:

Hypnogogic state it's called. It has to do with your brainwaves.

While we are awake we're in Beta waves. As you drift off to sleep you go to Alpha waves, then Theta (dreaming) and then delta (deep sleep, no sense of time passing).

A chemical is also released into your brain when you sleep. I believe it's serotonin but it could also be tryptophan (sorry can't remember, could be a combo actually). Anyway, this sleep chemical slowly leaves your brain as you wake. Sometimes the combination of this chemical and coming out of sleep too quickly back into Alpha state can cause you to expereince sleep paralysis.

Phew... that was long winded but the point is that it's a normal, chemical and brainwave combination.

Now that said... it can indeed lead to extrasensory experiences, hallucinations (part dreaming part awake) and even the sense that people are in the room with you when they are not.

You can even feel people sit on the bed next to you even though they aren't there. Or are they?

Another school of thought is that the sleep paralysis state occurs when aliens or spiritual beings shift your body to a higher vibration so that they may interact with you.

Whether you believe this or not is up to you. But people with higher extrasensory perception often report the sleep paralysis. Coincidence? Or contact from another dimension? Who knows.
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Thanks for all the info!

Very interesting that people with a tendency to ESP are more likely to get this happening, cause I am about as far from the realm as you can get, not in touch with a damn thing beyond the obvious, and have no desire to be (except to God )

I read that it is more common in people that have anxiety, and that part fits me to a "T". Also, as I mentioned before, some "sleep experts" say that the alien abductions are just hallucinations related to this happening (I would be more inclined to believe that, than the idea that people how have been aducted get this-see I'm a skeptic )

Well, off I go for some

Thanks all, at least I'm not alone, but no more back sleeping for me, maybe that'll do the trick!

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It happens to me.. Didn't know it had a name.. I learned something new today.. Can i go back to bed now??!!

Anyway.. It usually happens to me when i am REALL ill.. When i have laid down because i am ill and taking a nap or trying to wake up when i have an untreated fever.. It does happen a lot more when i am napping..

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