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Thanks Jane. I like the idea in theory but in practicality I'm not as sure. 6 weeks is a loooong time. Besides just daily activities taking that long off of my gym routine would really hit my conditioning & strength hard & it's so incredibly hard to get back into shape. Perhaps I'm being selfish here but I'm not sure I could do it again. It took so many weeks/months of workouts to get to where I am that I must admit I am very hesitant to let that slide.

 

I will say I feel I am being cautious though. I know that an increase in bleeding means I've done too much so I'm keeping a very close eye on that. Earlier this week I had a lot of abdominal tenderness after spending one morning in the kitchen standing so I backed off for a few days.

 

I guess overall it is better for each of us to tune into our bodies & make decisions based on our own bodies & their needs than to follow a set rule. After ds 6 weeks would have been WAY too early for me to start back to the gym - I truly felt destroyed after his birth. But this time is much different (& perhaps that is because I worked out right until the end this time).

 

So many factors to consider I guess.


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Good to know emmaegbert. I too am floored by some of the weight loss people are seeing! After ds I literally lost NOTHING!!! Nothing - how is that even possible?! So far, at 12 days pp I am down 19lbs this time so I feel pretty content with that.


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Dude...I had a c-section and drove myself 2 hours two days later...and Im not supossed to be walking!??

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DragonflyMom I really wish they could set you up with a free/cheap place to stay nearby. I keep thinking about you and all that driving! (at least its not 2 hours of walking a day...)


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Running back and forth to the NICU has not left much time for eating.


After DS1 was born, DH did what he called, 'The Labour and Postpartum Support Diet.' Same deal, back and forth between my ward and the NICU, very little time to eat, and the food was not that appetizing anyway. We were in the hospital for a week, and during that time he lost 10 lbs. (And he's a healthy, fit guy and did not have 10 lbs to lose!)

 

And yes, the skin does firm up, though IME it's never quite what it was before.


 

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I am not suggesting anyone not walk, just not walk for exercise. Only walk because you want to get from Point A to Point B. And walking gets you there. I would suggest not doing anything "for exercise" for 6 weeks. Resuming daily activities is good. Taking a week or two weeks off from the heavier stuff is good (ie, slinging wet laundry up 3 flights of stairs, toddler lifting, grocery hauling, etc). But if the laundry needs doing, it needs doing.
Of course the NY ladies are gonna walk. You have to live life. And that's returning to a daily activity.
In my experience, women who add exercising back at 3-4 weeks because they feel healed, they end up bleeding a lot longer. We know that their uterus' final healing is being delayed (Because they are bleeding).
As far as pelvic floor, the ligaments that hold the uterus back up in place are very long after childbirth. They've been securing a big ol' ute and are long. And then you have a tiny ute again. They shrink up after a couple weeks., but for a while there, everything is quite loosely held. The scaffolding is just not there yet. It's good to avoid lots of lifting and grunting and stairs and VACUUMING (so hard on the abdomen, to plant one leg and move the other and shove a big heavy vacuum around). Just til everything firms up a bit.
As a midwife, I feel like it's my job to be pretty cautious in all things. I like to be the voice of "Take care of yourself. Let it go. Be gentle to your soul and your body right now, you JUST had a baby." There are so many other forces pushing you out into the world, some of them coming from within. If I am a stern voice of caution, perhaps my clients will find the middle ground, where sanity lies.
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For me, walking is definitely part of daily activity and life. Especially with an older kid who needs escorting to and from school in an urban area, it's unavoidable. Plus it's such a huge part of well-being and mental health for me. In other words, when it comes to living life and returning to a daily activity, I would totally choose walking outside over doing laundry. winky.gif

 

ETA: It sounds to me like the advice is the same across care providers, overall: Take it as easy as you possibly can for the first week, preferably two, and then ease back into it and pay attention to how your body responds. My MWs know that I will follow their advice exactly (rather than finding a middle ground between their advice and what I want to do) so I am guessing they give me the middle ground right off the bat. I found it emotionally tough to stay in bed for most of the first week and take it very easy the second, but I did it anyway. (And I have to say, I am slightly peeved that despite following recommendations, my tear re-opened anyway. Getting into the car to go to a medical appointment, of all things.)


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 I found it emotionally tough to stay in bed for most of the first week and take it very easy the second, but I did it anyway. (And I have to say, I am slightly peeved that despite following recommendations, my tear re-opened anyway. Getting into the car to go to a medical appointment, of all things.)


yes, I get kind of crazy after a few days of lying around. I'd rather go straight to the "easing back into regular life" part. It was nice to have some good books with my second... I should try and get some reading material collected. And funny, but my MW just said at our appointment that in her experience, tears can be irritated or even worsened by things that don't seem like a big deal- she was talking in my case about a short but steep flight of stairs from my front door to street level. She says "runner moms are the worst" b/c they run up until the last moment that they can, and want to start right away after they give birth. I said don't worry I have not done any running for any reason other than emergencies in many months!

 

I can definitely forgo vacuuming for a few weeks though :)


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I was going absolutely NUTS in the hospital bed, I dont do well with being trapped...

 

If Jasper was at home I would probably be back on the elipitcal already, I feel fine physically, Im just tired from driving...

 

I think I only ended up taking 5 or 6 of the ibprofen and maybe one of my percocet the first day I drove...

 

I seriously feel fine...no way Im waiting 8 weeks to get it on/exercise 

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Please do wait.

 

You've just had major abdominal surgery. You feel fine well before you ARE fine. Your body will punish you for pushing it too quickly. Exercise, heavy lifting, etc can put pressure on the incision which is still healing. You could cause permanent issues by exercising too early. When I had my first they even said no driving for 6 weeks (apparently, this is because using a clutch places pressure on the incision--in the US they say 2 weeks). It's not just OB paranoia, and it's not just the issue of driving on opioids (I got a very stern lecture that I should not drive until I quit the Percs). If you need to do an emergency stop, it will pull on your incision and the muscles underneath.

 

Your body is still healing, even if you can't feel it. I'm on my second C section, and I know the drill. I've healed well this time, but when I overdid it (had to carry the baby in his bucket around DD's school), I paid. It hurt, and I bled more. The day I came home from the hospital I felt great and I was walking around everywhere. The next day I was in agony. Do not take C-section recovery lightly.


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yes, I get kind of crazy after a few days of lying around. I'd rather go straight to the "easing back into regular life" part. It was nice to have some good books with my second... I should try and get some reading material collected. And funny, but my MW just said at our appointment that in her experience, tears can be irritated or even worsened by things that don't seem like a big deal- she was talking in my case about a short but steep flight of stairs from my front door to street level. She says "runner moms are the worst" b/c they run up until the last moment that they can, and want to start right away after they give birth. I said don't worry I have not done any running for any reason other than emergencies in many months!

 

I can definitely forgo vacuuming for a few weeks though :)



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I had no choice but to drive :/ My husband had to go back to work and my son was (and still is but tomorrow will be two weeks) in the NICU two hours away.

 

 

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Please do wait.

 

You've just had major abdominal surgery. You feel fine well before you ARE fine. Your body will punish you for pushing it too quickly. Exercise, heavy lifting, etc can put pressure on the incision which is still healing. You could cause permanent issues by exercising too early. When I had my first they even said no driving for 6 weeks (apparently, this is because using a clutch places pressure on the incision--in the US they say 2 weeks). It's not just OB paranoia, and it's not just the issue of driving on opioids (I got a very stern lecture that I should not drive until I quit the Percs). If you need to do an emergency stop, it will pull on your incision and the muscles underneath.

 

Your body is still healing, even if you can't feel it. I'm on my second C section, and I know the drill. I've healed well this time, but when I overdid it (had to carry the baby in his bucket around DD's school), I paid. It hurt, and I bled more. The day I came home from the hospital I felt great and I was walking around everywhere. The next day I was in agony. Do not take C-section recovery lightly.



 

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Well, DD was born 9 days ago . . . I was 224 when I got pregnant, highest weight during pregnancy was 235. I am now 217.

 

I probably do more than I should (hard not to when there is an almost 2 year old demanding your attention), but if I didn't I would feel worse. For me, there is a fine line between doing enough to promote healing and circulation and overdoing it.  I just hope I'm on the right side of it! We came home on day 3, and I think we have spend some time out of the house running errands since day 5 or 6. I get super stir crazy stuck in the house all the time. We even, slowly, did the state fair on Wednesday. (lots of benches to sit on along the way, thankfully)

 

I had a vaginal birth, but a 4th degree tear, and I can honestly say that the c-section recovery I had with my first was easier. (I was walking around Target on day 3)

 

Weight loss wise, I plan to be active as I can tolerate, but am not really focusing on the food part. With my first,  I found that in order to lose weight, I needed to eat. If I tried restricting myself, it just would not come off. I try to eat pretty healthy, but mostly just need to remember to eat. I'd love to be down to around 200 by the end of the year, we'll see how that goes!


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katrina - sorry to hear about your tear - I had a 3rd degree with ds & it reallllly slowed me down for a long time. I hope you heal faster than I did.

 

Today was supposed to be my first day back in the gym but my mom is out of town & mil decidedto go do errands so I have no one to watch ds (dh & I usually go together on Fri). I'm a little irritated dh wouldn't give up the time for me. I think I am going to try to go on my own later in the day though.


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I will be joining all of you on watching the scale go down as soon as I deliver!! 

 

I started out pretty overweight (total surprise pregnancy) and was doing really well with not gaining a lot of weight until now. I'm eating the same way as I have been this whole pregnancy, but my weight is shooting up. Not great. 


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The bigger we are, the more chance to watch big numbers go down. It's all good!
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I stepped on the scale today (8 days pp) for the first time. I've lost half of what I gained during pregnancy (gained 46, lost 23). I have about 30ish pounds to lose still, but I won't be doing anything other than eating healthy until after 6 weeks.


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I was 252 pre-pregnancy, which was the highest I had ever been (I put on 30 lbs of stress-related weight after getting married). I got as high as 251 during pregnancy, after dropping 12 pounds in the first trimester.

 

Weighed myself today, 5 days pp... 230! I'm happy it's that much, but I want to continue if I can. Seeing my much smaller stomach now is encouraging. I've never had a firm, flat stomach so the "jello" and leftover roundness is not too terrible for me. I haven't done well at ALL at eating healthy since giving birth, though. For a few days food was so unappealing that I had to eat whatever sounded palatable--which was nothing but pizza the first day, and several fast-food trips since. DH is picking up Dominos right now... I'm not getting off to a very good start.


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Trinket - I did terrible with my eating after ds - it was so hard after being so strict throughout the pregnancy (I'm not sure why this is in italics) so this time I gave myself one week & then it was back on track. So for the first week pp I ate whatever I wanted. I've done ok since but still not exactly perfect & well, right now I'm eating  a big piece of ds' birthday cake - it's been a very rough day.

 

 


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IMO birthdays of your immediate family members really have to give you a few "free passes"! Enjoy that cake Lifeguard.


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Last night I was down another 10 lbs from my pp visit, making it 40 lbs since delivery, and down 5 lbs from my first prenatal visit at 8 weeks.  Wow!  This was a different scale, so maybe some calibration differences, but still.  Thanks, pre-e!  

 

I've been going for small walks every day with DH and the baby, just around two small blocks.  It seems about right for me.  A couple days ago we went for a longer walk and then I went out for groceries.  That night, my bleeding was a little heavier and my abs were pretty sore.  Clearly my limit is somewhere less than what I did that day.  I'm curious about the sore abs, though.  Does this mean I have separated muscles?  I can't really feel separated muscles in my belly, but who knows what's under all the jellofat that is my belly these days?  Was I feeling damage pain or good muscle-strengthening pain?

 

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I haven't weighed myself PP yet but I've been following along with this thread... I'm waiting until my 2 week PP visit to see what the scale says.


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I cannot believe the losses of everyone on this thread. I can only hope that after I have the baby I'll be as well off.


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yellowdart - are you having ab muscle pain or fatigue? I am finding that it just plain feels like my abs & back are exhausted after too much standing or activity. My thought is that everything has stretched out from the pregnancy & just isn't as tight as it was at the end of the pregnancy & now it needs to tighten back up. I don't know if that makes sense or not.

 

Tomorrow is my first workout & I cannot wait! I also am a little scared. I know it is illogical but I'm scared about what kind of shape I will be in. I've been off the gym for 4 weeks now so realistically my conditioning shouldn't have gone downhill too drastically plus I have 20lbs less to drag around but it was SO painful getting back into shape after ds & I keep thinking about that. We are planning on squatting but taking it light & stopping if my bottom end feels too awful. Unfortunately today I helped dh push mil's piano across the room & I leaked urine - I sure hope this isn't going to be the new norm for me - up until now I've been really fortunate in that way.


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yellowdart - are you having ab muscle pain or fatigue? I am finding that it just plain feels like my abs & back are exhausted after too much standing or activity. My thought is that everything has stretched out from the pregnancy & just isn't as tight as it was at the end of the pregnancy & now it needs to tighten back up. I don't know if that makes sense or not.

 



It's the feeling you get a few hours after a good muscle workout, that lasts an evening or so and goes away with ibuprofen.  No strong sharp pains or anything like that, just muscle aches.  I think it's probably fine, but I'd hate to be doing some kinda damage and not realizing it. 

 


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yellowdart- I've had some ab soreness too! Mine isn't bad enough to feel like any kind of damage--my guess is that those muscles have just been strained and stretched out over the last few months and they're trying to recover and get some tone back. Pretty uncomfy though.


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I weighed myself today, 4 days PP.  I gained a total of 20lbs with this pregnancy, and I've lost 11 so far.  I know I *shouldn't* be disappointed, but the baby weighed almost 10lbs so I guess I was hoping for another pound or two.  I lost 12 lbs in the hospital with my 7.5lb baby.  Go figure.

 

I had a c-section this time so I'm pretty limited in what I can do.  I'd love to be able to take some walks, but I don't see that happening for a while seeing as I'm still in pain. I'm tryng to force myself to stay close to home at least until my 2 week incision check and we'll see how things look at that point.

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Dollyanna, I think there is swelling and water stuff related to c-sections.


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dollyanna - I was disappointed when I came home with dd to see only 10lbs down but I quickly lost another 10 in the next so give it time.

 

I just got home from my first workout & it was awesome!!! My mobility without the belly was astounding - I felt downright skinny (which I am not). I could do full push-ups! I hit depth on my squat with no weight on the bar (something I've never been able to do). My conditioning was ok overall - kept up with dh. Dd did ok but I had to nurse her & change her mid-session which is not ideal but hopefully I'll only need to bring her with me to the gym for a few weeks & then she'll be ok to be left with someone for my workouts.

 

Anyway, I feel pretty freakin' awesome about how it went. I didn't push very hard (almost no weight on my squats), my pelvic floor felt great - my core is definitely going to be an area of focus for the next while. I will be watching things pretty carefully for the next day though. I have stopped bleeding so it will be pretty obvious if that starts up again. I am feeling pretty proud of myself for sticking with my workouts throughout. In total I have taken just shy of 5 weeks off, which interestingly is how long dh has taken off for his eye surgeries! I was pretty worried about what kind of shape I was going to be in but I am not at all disappointed after today's workout.


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Dollyanna, I think there is swelling and water stuff related to c-sections.



I think this can happen with vaginal births too, but YES. I got weighed in the hospital. I was 6 lbs down. At my 2 week check, I was 23 lbs down. I peed off 17 lbs. True story. So wait. If you see any swelling (especially feet/legs) it's all going to come out.


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This lack of sleep is really screwing me over with the weight loss. I've gone up a few pounds this week & there really is no other explanation. I know from experience that if I can get a good solid stretch of sleep I'll see this little increase drop away again. Sigh.

 

I had two workouts this week & they were great. I'm super pleased with how they went. We kept the weight low with higher reps. No increased bleeding so that is good. My mobility without the belly is astounding (well, not to someone with actual flexibility but for me it's fabulous) & I can definitely see an increase in my strength in body weight exercises (ie. I can do a FULL push-up now!).

 

How's this for weird - my trainer took my measurements yesterday. When I compared them to my last measurements in February which was a good 20lbs heavier I literally haven't lost any inches - in fact I've gained inches in my hips (but I suspect that might be a bit of a placement issue) & my chest (which isn't surprising). How do you lose 20lbs & it not show up in any of your measurements? No wonder I'm still wearing the same size I was 40lbs ago. Sigh. SO discouraging.


Surviving sleep deprivation one day at a time with dd (Oct '11) & ds (Oct '08).

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Extra skin? I know my belly is way deflated, but I have all this extra skin that needs to shrink before I'll be in a smaller size. Weight wise I probably could be in a 16, but reality with all this extra skin in my belly means I'm more comfortable in an 18.

 

Yay on the work out progress!


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