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The WAIT IS OVER!!!!!


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Here is the story in brief....Another great UC home water-birth. Long pregnancy, drawn out prodromal labor for about 3 weeks, good strong contractions starting Sunday 3/18 at night but not consistent enough (every hour then as close as 5 minutes..blah blah...finally had a pink show and thought that it had to be time!)that went on for the next two days, short active true labor...good hard labor started at 2am Tuesday 3/20 (the ok, this has to finally be it contractions that woke me from sleep)...in birth pool by 4:30am (took a while for DH to get out of bed and get moving..dont think he believed me)...started pushing by 6am (told DH I was not ready yet...did not have a choice though..baby was ready!)...around 6:20am I told my DH I hoped this would be over soon, because I was hungry!!!...out by 6:35am. No tears, but one small scratch...love that water! Did decide to transfer after birth for observation...quite pink, but slow to breath( just like my last son) so we called EMS and went to the hospital to have him checked out. Strong heart rate at all times, but just couldnt seem to catch those first breaths. The doctors guess that it is due to the size of my kiddos...he was kicking and squirming even as his head was crowning, but that last little push must be a tight squeeze!!! Everthing looked great...back home the same day. Had to fight with them a little...wanted to give him sugar then formula, but I was able to pump colostrum and feed it to him, so they backed off. Now, nursing like a champ(typing one handed!), and waiting for the milk faucet to kick on! Will add more later.

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This is my third pregnancy, and according to my conservative calculations I am now 10 days overdue. As far as prior history, I did go 16 days over with my first, and 21 days over with my second. However, I am not at all comfortable going that far overdue again (21 days)...he did not appear post-term at birth, but was born blue and left me a little shell-shocked.

This pregnancy is a complete UP/UC, whereas my others I had prenatal care, and therefore NST after 40 weeks to check on things. Since I am not having any of that this time, I am curious as to when I should start being concerned? I have tried the EPO, but that is about it. I really hoped that this one would not continue my "late" baby record, but it seems I do carry longer. So, how long are you all comfortable with before you head in to have things checked out?

Thanks!

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I don't know how far over I would be comfy. DD was about a week over when I took matters into my own hands. My planned UC ended up as a transfer...I feel my actions totally facilatated this. I could be wrong since it was my first baby but I doubt it.

I was reading on the Unhindered Living site yesterday about due dates. The author knows women who go anywhere from 38-47 weeks. I know it's hard but keep in mind that you aren't really overdue until you go past 42 weeks. My mom carried my sister "overdue" for a month. With two failed inductions.

Maybe tonight when you are laying in bed do some meditation and ask the baby some things. You might get a feeling as to when you are comfy intervening and how far over you are comfy going and if/when you should go in to get checked out.

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Thank you for the input. I do feel fine going to 42 weeks, but it is after that where I have concerns. Obviously I am slow to cook my kids so I am hesitant to try too much that might lead to a cascade of other interventions. I have tried accupressure points, which do increase my BH but that is about it. With my other two pregnancies I waited it out for spontaneous labor, but I did have my membranes swept. With my first DS I went into labor about 4 days after that, and with my second DS it was 2 days after I had them swept. I really did not like the procedure (extremely painful for me), but would be willing to have it done again if it seems like it would actually do anything.
I was wondering about having a glass of wine...at this point would that increase or decrease contractions? I am open to trying just about anything except castor oil. Here is to hoping that lovely full moon gets things going!
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Can anyone help me on the wine thing...at this point would it help contractions or stop them? I have been having contractions every night since about 38 weeks, and want to know if a little wine with the full moon might help.

Just dont want to have a glass of wine if it will stop things!!!! Any one with ancedotal stories for me?
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I don't know about wine in relation to starting labor, only what I've read in places like Spiritual Midwifery about it stopping premature labor. I'd be inclined not to do it.

What about intercourse? Prostaglandins are the natural 'cervadil'.
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I hope the full moon will get things going for both of us. I am just a few days overdue but everyone else is so worried that I'd might as well have it now, although, I don't feel miserable or anything. I talked to my great aunt yesterday and she went 5 weeks over with her second child and was then enduced and she said her baby was turned blue when it was born, but ended up being fine. This is my first and going past the due date was never a concern for me, I was always afraid I'd have it early. Wine sure does sound good, but I also have heard that it slows things down. I think the Full Moon is our best hope right now.

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I always heard that you should drink wine to stop pre-term labor, but somewhere (of course I cant find it now) I thought I read that it can relax you and help contractions along. So far the full moon is doing nothing more than giving me the usual nightly contractions.

As a FTM I knew I would go late as well...really had hoped it would only be days and not weeks like I had to wait. However, I was thinking that maybe by baby#3 my body would cut me some slack and move things along just a little faster. I feel ok, but have started to really getting swelling in my legs and ankles and numbness in my hands...my signal that I am done!

Hopefully the moon works for you!

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I never found the full moon to help either (or for that matter a nearly-hurricaine strength storm that blew through). I passed 2 full moons and ended up giving birth finally at a quarter moon or something like that. bah humbug!
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Maybe I don't know what I'm talking about here, but from what I understand, alcohol inhibits the release of oxytocin---the natural contraction accelerant. I would think it would make contractions less productive, not more so.....

Maybe someone with a good grip on the physiology of birth could help me here?
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I'd say sex, sex and more sex. Can't hurt and it's fun.

Other than that, with your history of going later I honestly wouldn't even think about it until you were 42 weeks.

(I passed a full moon I was hoping would put me into labor too.)
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IMO, I'd wait until 42 weeks. Nipple stimulations is what kicks my body into gear.

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Personally-

42 weeks is just another arbitrary date, like 37 and 40. Yes before 37 could be less than opitmal, but many babies at born at 34 are ok - just small. 40? thanks for the midpoint If you know you go late- then you go late- TRUST it. If you have a bad feeling- do something about it. Fear creeping in have anything to do with outsiders concerns/opinions/comments?

ME? baby #4- planning on 11 days late- just like all the others {heres hoping- getting in moving truck/caravan to go back to FL 3.7.07 at 40w2d !}

Eat well- feed your preparing body, feed your baby well, DRINK LOTS of water - keep system clean and HYDRATED. REST. Make a "waiting for you" journal.

having had 3 'past due' babies- i get it. I just know its better to assume it will be later, and then count down to that - anything late sucks. Especially when it hurts waiting, and you havent gotten to see your baby yet!
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here here for nipple stim!

personally- BOTH at the SAME time- works WAY better .
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I never found the full moon to help either (or for that matter a nearly-hurricaine strength storm that blew through). I passed 2 full moons and ended up giving birth finally at a quarter moon or something like that. bah humbug!
I looked it up once (and just now again) and #1 was 4 days after full moon, #2 was 4 days after new moon, #3 was 4 days after full moon, and #4 broke the pattern and was 7 days after full. Was a nice pattern while it lasted. I had looked it up before babe 4 was born and darn it was hard when 4 days after full moon came and went. This time 4 days after full would be great for me and is right at the point of pregnancy that I usually have them and 4 days after new is my due date. Obviously not going to hold my breath for either of them.

#4 WAS born at the same gestational age as most of the rest though (1 stubborn one held out an extra week), so probably that is a better indicator ;-).
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I'm a FTM, so I expected to go late, and I had him 10 days past my due date. I was having pretty bad sciatic nerve pain by that point, so I had decided that if he was still hanging out by 42 weeks, I would go see an accupuncturist.

As far as at what point I would seek medical assistance... I didn't give it too much thought. If I had felt something was wrong, I would have, but if I felt Henry was okay, I would have gone another month. I did a UP also.

I did have him after eating one whole, fresh pineapple and part of a second. About 7 hours afterward, actually, after having NO contractions that entire weekend. I don't know if it really helped, but I kind of feel like it did.

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Can anyone help me on the wine thing...at this point would it help contractions or stop them? I have been having contractions every night since about 38 weeks, and want to know if a little wine with the full moon might help.

Just dont want to have a glass of wine if it will stop things!!!! Any one with ancedotal stories for me?


Maybe you're thinking of an article on Laura Shanley's website for uc in 1950's.... "Pat preferred to give birth completely alone. After downing a few whisky highballs, she would retire to her bedroom, shut the door, and catch her baby. "

I'm planning on having a couple of drinks once I START labor in order to calm my nerves and help me relax through the contractions. I don't know how it would affect things before real labor starts though...
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No matter how much of a PITA it is, I'm letting baby stay in as long as he/she wants. Only if I feel something is wrong will I try anything, and then everything natural before medical stuff. Otherwise, I'm all about waiting. But it's not easy!
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Unless there was something in the picture causing me to think my baby was in danger, I would never move things along. I think babies are born when they are ready and it's bad news to try to get things going regardless of how natural the method is. It's bad news physcially and it puts you in a bad emotional place.

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Have you heard of "Sleeping the mama" for women with lot's of warm up? At the hospital, they can hook you up to morphene and let you rest - when you come out of it you go into labor quickly and have the baby - supposed to be pretty effective. Midwives do a similar thing by having you drink wine, go to bed, possibly taking something to help you sleep. You can google "therapeutic rest" and find some stuff about it. Any of the natural stuff to "move things along" have only ever caused me problems. This time if I fear I'm getting worn down from the warm up, then I will try the therapeutic rest. Otherwise, I wouldn't do anything natural to move things along - just keep close tabs on the baby.

There are risks to the natural interventions - like castor oil can loosen your babies bowels. Then if you do have to transfer and there is mec - then that gives the hospital an excuse to bully you about your baby.
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I don't believe in rushing things along in anyway. Lots of sex would be the only thing I would do, but more for the fun of sex than anything else!

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This is my third pregnancy, and according to my conservative calculations I am now 10 days overdue. As far as prior history, I did go 16 days over with my first, and 21 days over with my second. However, I am not at all comfortable going that far overdue again (21 days)...he did not appear post-term at birth, but was born blue and left me a little shell-shocked.
Mama, it sounds like your body knows how long it needs to grow your babies. For you, you're not "overdue". You're right on target! If I was you I wouldn't worry a bit. Remember, 40 weeks is just an average - it doesn't really say anything about YOUR body & baby.

I would do nothing. Intervening in birth (without an instinct that it's very needed) can produce an undesirable result.

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: Ok, I hit the 42 week mark and still no baby...lots and lots of contractions that last all day and then stop at night. Did anyone else go in for NST or a check-up when you hit this point? I did go 16 days late with my first and 21 days late with #2...however, I am NOT comfortable with 43 weeks again.
Tried accupressure and that has not worked...walking just gives me a back ache...oh, and this baby is still pretty high...

Advice????
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I was just thinking about you today... wondering about an update and all. I wish I had some words of wisdom for you! But I just don't know. It sounds like you're already trying everything. Maybe you'd get a few ideas if you posted in the birth proffesionals forum. I've asked a few questions in there and they always give me the answers I'm looking for.

Sending you some good ol birthing vibes....
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I've heard that....ahem....swallowing has a far better effect than plain ol' monkey dancin'. :

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I went 42 wks w/ds. Baby comes when baby's ready I guess. Frustrating, but worth the wait. I hope to go 41-42 wks this time! It'll work better w/what's going on in our lives. BUt again, baby will come when baby is ready!
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Trust your instincts mama. It sounds like your body is doing the work it needs to do. Is babe still moving and feeling good? What do your instincts tell you?

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i know you said you've tried acupressure, but is there any way you could go in for acupuncture?

other than that, i agree to listen to your instincts.

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I took homeopathic Caulophyllum 200c every half hour to two hours to move things along,(as I recall I only needed one dose) it gives the body a gentle nudge when everything feels ready but perhaps energetically stalled.

Here's some info from a homeopath I consulted with: http://www.mirandacastro.com/article...aulophylum.php

From my experience, homopathic remedies will only work with the body, not push it into to anything that it's not ready for.
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The baby is still moving although definetly less often and in more spurts..gets really jumpy and then nothing for a few hours. I do have a lot of swelling in my feet/ankles, but I am up and around a lot during the day so it can be expected. However, it is the swelling in my hands that is getting tough. I have developed carpal tunnel in both wrists, so I have lost feeling in all my fingertips. I went to my chiro today and there was nothing much he could do for it other than traction...just need to deliver so the swelling can go down.

Instincts are not telling me there is an emergency yet, but I just am feeling less confident. My 43 week DS was born blue...no idea why he was completely limp and blue... but I think I do still have some "trauma" from that. Everything turned out fine, but it just causes me a bit of concern. My DH checked me, and this baby is still way up...hard for him to even reach the head. My others did not engage until I was in labor, and I wonder if that is why it takes me so long to "get going". Anyone heard of this? I just feel my babies dont lock in and activate things!

Just wish there was a sure fire way without the use of drugs! I think the prodromal labor is starting to get to me...getting emotional and feeling like I am running out of endurance. Tired of putting on the happy face
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Sounds like you are not feeling too good about the "not knowing" how baby is doing? There are no rules saying that if you plan a UC you cant take advantage of modern medicine if you feel the need/wish for it. If having a U/S to check on baby's health would make you feel more comfortable then go ahead and do it.

I dont know how the system works in the US but is there anywhere that you could go and have a U/S to check if baby is doing ok inthere - without the risk that someone starts pushing for you to induce or what do I know?
Here you can go to private clinics for scans and they have no connection to hospitals whatsoever, so that would be a safe place to have things checked out.

However I do agree with the others - sounds like your body is just pregnant for around 42-43 weeks and considering the amount of contractions you are having I dont think you will last much longer. But if you feel something is not right then by all means go have it checked out for your own peace of mind.

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