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Outrageous article comparing foreskin to a birth defect

I was raised in a reform Jewish household. I'm a single college student, but in the last year or so I have become involved with Intact America. I'll often post articles on Facebook, especially about the "why circumcision is better, cleaner, healthier" myths out there. I'm fairly certain I've persuaded several Jewish moms to leave their newborn sons intact.

Well...today someone sent me this article on chabad.org's q&a section. Absolutely appalling. And the comments on the article are even more so. And just for the record...I don't think I'd be so quick to amputate any one of my future son's extra fingers/toes either!!! Ughhh. I've copied the article below.

Isn't Circumcision Barbaric?

Question:

We had a baby boy, and we are very excited. But we are still undecided about the brit. I have issues with it. I am aware of the spiritual significance of circumcision, but I have much more practical concerns:

Is it not barbaric to put my baby through the pain of a medically unnecessary operation?
He was born uncircumcised. Why should I mess with his natural state?
My son has no say in this, and can never reverse it. Shouldn’t I let him choose later on in life if he wants this done to him?
Do you have any rational answers?

Answer:

Imagine the following scenario. Your baby is born healthy and well. But there’s something unusual. He has six fingers on each hand. An extra little growth protrudes right next to each pinkie.

Can you think of anything more barbaric than chopping someone’s fingers off?

What would you do about it? Have the extra fingers surgically removed? Or leave them? After all, he was born that way. And he can live with twelve fingers. Maybe the child should be allowed to choose whether or not he wants his extra fingers later in life. Can you think of anything more barbaric than chopping someone’s fingers off?

And yet, I suspect you would do what most parents have done in such circumstances. Better remove the extra fingers now, when it is relatively painless and quick to heal, than subject the child to feeling like an anomaly in his future life. He has no use for them anyway, and would later resent the fact that his parents didn’t remove them for him.

And so, kind and loving parents will unflinchingly put their babies under the surgeon’s knife. The short-term pain is worth it to avoid the long-term discomfort. All other concerns would quickly dissolve. What is called “barbaric” in one context is quite humane in another.

If this logic works for removing extra fingers, a purely cosmetic operation, how much more should it work in favor of the infinitely more meaningful act of circumcision. I am not suggesting that being uncircumcised is the same as being twelve-fingered. But for a Jewish child, there are several similarities.

An uncircumcised Jew often feels like an outsider among his own people. He will always be a Jew, but may come to feel ambivalent about it, knowing that to actively embrace his Jewishness entails undergoing an operation—one that is minor at eight days old, but quite a bit more daunting in adulthood. I have attended adult circumcisions, and it is inspiring when someone makes that choice. The actual operation is not such a big deal. But the decision to do it is. You are, in fact, limiting his choices by not circumcising him.

Diamonds must be cut and polished to reveal their inner beauty.

Many things in our world were created unfinished, and need our input to be complete. Wheat must be ground into flour and kneaded into dough; diamonds must be cut and polished to reveal their inner beauty. This is the nature of the human experience.

So, putting all spiritual considerations aside, from a practical perspective, here’s the equation: Leave your son uncircumcised, and you leave him with a psychological barrier to exploring his own identity. Give your son a brit, and he loses nothing more than a bit of skin, but he gains immediate entry into the four-thousand-year-old covenant of Abraham. That is a gift you will not regret giving.
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Wow, that part about the diamonds killed me. Really?

Good for you for giving Jewish moms the information they need to make a more educated decision. I've read that the original amount of skin they would cut was nothing like what they take off today. They even said that during the Olympic Games, Jewish men would try and fully cover their glands with the rest of their foreskin so as not to appear Jewish, something today's man would never be able to do.

I just feel bad that they even started doing that to boys. I think people really need to search deep inside themselves and figure out if that's really what God wants them to do.



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Wow, what a crock of BS.
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Welcome, Intactivist93! Would you mind posting a link to the actual article?

How wonderful you've been able to share information w/ parents-to-be that has changed minds. It's not easy, but we have to keep letting people know that babies deserve their whole bodies! Keep up the good work!

All the best,
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The diamond part was quite unsettling, what an odd rationalization.
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You are, in fact, limiting his choices by not circumcising him.
Huh? How is it limiting by leaving him alone and letting him make the choice? Horse puckies.

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http://www.chabad.org/library/articl...n-Barbaric.htm

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Yea, I totally don't get how your limiting him by leaving it intact! He could always get circ'd later on in life, not so in the reverse situation. And my biggest question is why is this only compared to birth defects and finishing something that nature obviously messed up on, and never once do they think to compare it to a female circ???? Did nature mess up on us too, and that's why other cultures circ girls? Or no, its only barbaric when the double standard is applied?!
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