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Only 6 weeks left to go!



Wow, you look incredible!!! I'm in awe of pregnant moms of multiples! You look radiant! 


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Wow, you look incredible!!! I'm in awe of pregnant moms of multiples! You look radiant! 



I agree! There's something so amazing about baby bellies, but it's magnified in you ladies with more than one!


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Thanks!  Sometimes I look down and wonder how they both fit in there, especially since they're both measuring a week ahead of schedule.  Our bodies are amazing at what they do!


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And Kewpie, I see you're still wearing your wedding ring -- lucky girl. I had to take mine off weeks ago or risk never getting it off...


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believe me, I couldn't get it off if I wanted to! orngbiggrin.gif

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And Kewpie, I see you're still wearing your wedding ring -- lucky girl. I had to take mine off weeks ago or risk never getting it off...



 


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(Left) Me, 35 1/2 weeks...(right) my sister, 32 weeks


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32 weeks...and I feel so huge!!

 

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wow, you are stunningly beautiful! 

 

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Emaya, I've wanted to reply to you for days but kept putting it off for various reasons, one being I don't always come across how I mean to & after writing this, I'm really wondering if I should even post it. *sigh*

 

First I just want to say what an amazing job you are doing keeping those babies in. Every day is a gift to them. Second, I'm really sorry you're being forced into a cesarean due to their fear. Have you tried your local ICAN chapter to see if there's anyone who'd be willing to attend a triplet birth?

 

As far as I can tell, the only reason for them to want you to have a cesarean at 36 weeks is so they avoid any chance you'll go into labour on Christmas. I've seen drs use this ploy a thousand times, although in the case of triplets, they obviously don't have to hunt as hard for a reason to have an early cesarean as they do with singletons. Obviously there's a chance they'll come even before the 20th, but if they don't...have you considered putting off having the cesarean until after Christmas?

 

At 36 weeks, there's a pretty high chance that one or more will have to spend a couple days in NICU, but, if you can manage to keep them in that long (& I can't imagine how tired & awkward you must already be feeling!) there's a really good chance that at 37 weeks, they'd only need to be observed for a bit. They'll likely have less issues overall, even with just that extra few days. And the other reason, less important than their health but still important, is that having a cesarean on the 20th means you'll be barely out of the hospital by Christmas, possibly with one or more babies still in the hospital.

 

Obviously, if they come earlier, there's nothing you can do about it, but if you can keep them in until 37 weeks (or longer, but you said in the chat thread you were worried about increasing risk after 37 weeks), it would be beneficial.

 

Anyway, I just wanted you to know that if *you* want to try to keep them in longer, it's your choice; after all you're the one who has to deal with the consequences, not the drs. You can always reschedule the cesarean if you want to.

 

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What beautiful little bumps you all have - lovely lovely! I'm excited to see them grow into January. Lucky ladies that get to grow your babies for 40 weeks! My little ones are scheduled to arrive by c-section on December 20th, giving them 36 weeks gestation (no doctor will allow triplets to gestate longer here, and no one will attempt a natural birth with me, even though babies nearest cervix are both vertex). But I'm very thankful, considering only 1% of triplet pregnancies make it that long.

Kindermama - I think stretch marks are genetic -- either you get them or not, regardless of which cream/oil/massage technique you use, right? I don't get them in a singleton pregnancy, apparently, but I sure do get them now! Got to have something to show for this wild ride :)

 



 


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Devaskyla, I remember Emaya wrote somewhere (can't remember which thread) that when she checked the literature herself, it did say triplets should not go beyond 36 weeks. It is really sad that no doctor will do a vaginal birth with her. Maybe it's a rule in Sweden? Emaya? I think the Swedish are supposed to be quite naturally-minded when it comes to birthing, right? We have it quite lucky here in Europe for the most part (though the Germans have a c-section rate almost as high as the US for some reason confused.gif, and I've heard stories that the French are not so breastfeeding-friendly). In my area (German-speaking part of Switzerland), they seem good, though. Pretty much all the hospitals promote breastfeeding, natural birthing, baby stays with the mother, etc.

 

Emaya, do they have the Wochenbett (sorry, not sure if there is an English equivalent; maybe the word is similar in Swedish orngtongue.gif) concept in Sweden, too? It's common here. Basically, the mother stays in the hospital for several days (usually 4-5 days) after birth, even after an uneventful birth, rather than going home immediately. In the US, you go home right away? My dad said they came right home with me after I was born, but maybe that info is outdated.

 

Alternatively, here you can go home right away (according to my doctor, anyway) and have a midwife come check up on you at home. 10 visits (checking up on the mother, breastfeeding support, etc.) are paid by the insurance. From what you've said of Sweden's awesome services, I'll bet you get something even better!


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Thank you, Devaskyla, for your input - I appreciate you putting your noggin' on my situation and giving it some thought. I think most of us are drawn to Mothering as we have certain ideas about birth and child raising that aren't always identical to how the medical main stream works. I pushed my doctors on the 36 weeks thing, but they were quite firm. In the end, you are right, it is my choice, but the two specialists I want to do the surgery will not be available after the 20th, so that was part of my decision.

The other part of it is as Sweetbee says, that the majority of the literature supports taking out triplets at 36 weeks gestation, with a few studies showing 37 weeks to be just as safe.

And finally, after touring the NICU at my hospital, all my worries of spending time there with my babes was gone -- I said (jokingly, of course) to my dh that it would be a shame if we didn't get to spend any time there at all. We - and even little sister (if she's perfectly healthy) - can live in a suite with the babies 24 hours a day as long as the babies are in the hospital. They don't discharge one or two at a time, they discharge the whole family together. If the babies are micro preemies, then they stay in a darkened, quiet room with their nurses but the parents suite has a direct door into that room and 24 hour access to babies to administer kangaroo care, caresses, or to just check in. I got to peek in that room, even though my babies were past the micro stage, and the nurses were literally whispering and the atmosphere was actually warm, dark, and womb-like.

Sweetbee's right about Swedish care for laboring and delivering mothers - it's fantastic. I had my daughter in a birthing center with midwives, and that's how all uncomplicated births are done here. My birth plan was respected to perfection, and I was encouraged to birth naturally. Mom and partner stay at the center for only 48 hours after birth, though. If breast feeding hasn't started working yet, one stays longer. They are pretty much nazis about breast feeding over here -- you practically get reported to social services if you don't try hard enough to make it work (joking, but you get the picture).

Ina May Gaskin was on the radio here yesterday, in an interview after accepting a Right Livelihood award in Stockholm. Some leading midwives were interviewed afterwards about what Gaskin had said and they pointed out that it's a shame that Swedes don't birth at home as many Americans and British do. I would say, however, that because the birthing centers are so home-like, run by midwives, and provide such a calm and low-tech environment for natural birth that maybe there isn't as much pressure to have home births as there is in the US.

 

I just returned from my supposed last ultrasound, and the babes looked great -- all over 2 kgs and great flow in their umbilical cords. The twin boys are still sharing their placenta nicely and seem to differ in wieght only by a couple grams! The interesting news is that both boys (baby A and B, closest to the cervix) had flipped AGAIN and are now both in breach, the naughty things. It almost made me relieved to see any hope of a natural birth finally stomped out, and with it that little daydream I hold of secretly laboring at home for a long time and then rushing in to the hospital when it's "oops, too late to do surgery because they're already here" ... Ok, I wasn't really going to do that, but some births go really fast and you just can't help it, right? :)

 

Now I have to get to some research on preclampsia as it seems I've got the mild beginings of that going on (high blood pressure, a little protein in the urine, and a not so good result on the blood test), so I may not make it to the 20th as hoped anyway...

 

Thanks again, D, for your thoughts. And Sweetbee - there certainly are a lot of good things about living in Europe, aren't there? Even if I'm sure we both get homesick sometimes...

 


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Devaskyla - Multiples mature in the womb faster than singletons and the placentas break down earlier due to the added hormones.  There is a higher rate of complications past a certain week number because of this.  For twins, it's 38 and triplets, it's 36.  Twins are considered full term at 36 weeks and are as mature as a full term singleton.  Trips happens at 34 weeks.  I have talked to many many moms of multiples and so far I have yet to see any that spent any time in the NICU after 35 weeks. That's not to say it doesn't happen, but it certainly isn't all the time. I hope that calms your worries.


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emaya - That's awesome that your babies are all hanging close together in size, especially your twins!  All my doctors breathed a sigh of relief when they saw mine were fraternal and I can only imagine the relief from seeing your identicals growing well. 

 

I'm sorry you won't be able to do the vaginal birth you were hoping for.  I won't know till the day of what I will be able to do.  Both of mine are back head down, so it's looking promising.  My doctors are all willing to do a breech as long as baby A is head down.  The problem is mine turn to transverse when they do turn..

 

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You mamas of multiples are so amazing!

 

I figured I better get a pic up soon, these last weeks are sure to go fast... 33 weeks.

 

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Kewpie, actually multiples don't mature faster, although drs like to say they do. Their lungs mature 2 weeks earlier, on average, than singletons, but neurologically & physically, they mature at the same rate as singletons. And if the mother tends to gestate her singletons longer, her twins are going to need longer as well. The main reason multiples come earlier is because it's so incredibly hard to get the nutrition you need to maintain a multiple pregnancy, especially triplets or more. Lots of twins are born past 40 weeks, never mind past 38.

 

Emaya, I'm glad you're at peace with your decision and the NICU sounds amazing, although I hope your babies will spend little or no time there. :) I only posted because you sounded conflicted and I wanted to be sure you were aware you had options. For the preeclampsia symptoms, making sure you drink enough water as well as spending time immersed in it can help with the high blood pressure, as can relaxation/meditation and making sure you're getting enough salt. Extra protein might also help, if you can manage it.

 

And back on topic...34 week pics! I got tired of waiting for dh to take better pics & took them myself

 

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Devaskyla - You can believe whatever you wish to.  That is all up to you, but I'm inclined to believe my 2 perinatologists, 4 OBs, and the books I have read from the University Consortium on Multiple Births.  They have spent their lives researching and studying multiples and how to bring them safely from the womb.  For maturation, as far as my twins are concerned, they are measuring 11 days ahead of a singleton of the same gestation at the last growth scan and they were a week ahead before that.  That sure seems like advanced maturation beyond lungs to me.   

 

I don't pretend to be an expert, but I have talked to many people and read as much as I could on the subject because these are my children involved and I want to be well informed.  So far, you are the only one who has come forward with the information you have.  If you can back it up with proven studies, I will be very interested to read it!

 

I never said that twins and trips can't go to 40 weeks, I only said that there is an increased risk of complications from the placenta breaking down from what I understand.  It doesn't happen in all cases, but it does happen at times. Most go into labor naturally before that anyway.  Those who know me know that I am a strong believer in babies staying in the womb as long as possible, even past 40 weeks, but multiples do have differences and those need to be taken into consideration.  Perhaps you do have qualifications that make you a recognized expert, but for now, I choose to follow the instructions given to me by those I know to be qualified and not someone on a random forum. (unless you can back up what you say as I said before)

 

I hate to be off-topic, but you did bring it up and I couldn't stand by and not defend what us mother's of mulitples are doing to try to keep our babies safe.  You did direct it at emaya, but I felt a sting 'cause I may find myself in a similar situation a couple weeks afterward.  Not all doctors push early c-sections to avoid working on holidays. If you do wish to pass info along that you have, perhaps you could PM it or start a new thread to keep this one clean.


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emaya and kewpie, i'm so amazed by what your bodies are doing these days!  you go, mamas!  so inspiring.  and everyone else- you are truly lovely.  :)

 

also, emaya, my firstborn is a graduate of multiple NICUs, and we've never, ever been in one even remotely as family and baby-friendly as what you describe.  i'm really impressed!  i hope your little ones don't have to spend long there, but i'm so happy for all of the ways that environment seems to nurture the whole family!


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35 weeks today!!!  One more week and we'll be in the clear for our home birth!! 

As my husband said the other day: "Oh wow, I just realized there's an entire human being living inside you."  orngbiggrin.gif

 

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Lovely lovely bellies, all. Keep 'em coming! Y'all are finally catching up and looking seriously pregnant :)


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Montessori mama---you're in the clear for HB at 36 weeks? My midwife told me last week that they really want me to be at least 37 weeks but they'll come at 36.5 weeks as long as baby is at least 5 1/2 lbs. My DH just said an hour ago....wait, how would they know that unless they came here when you were in labor to check and how exactly would they

be able to tell how much he weighs? Hmmm maybe they just have to say that to cover their a$$es. 

 

 

 

 


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Yup!  Baby's feeling quite strong and big (by their calculations through palpation, which apparently are more accurate than u/s, go figure...).  Also, I have short menstrual cycles and ovulated on day 11 of my cycle (as opposed to day 14, which is what all the pregnancy calculators go by), so I'm actually a few days farther along than my "official" due date, but we're still basing ourselves on the 28-day cycle calendar to guess the EDD in case I go over by a couple of weeks.  I have no health issues, good blood pressure, etc. so the m/w seemed quite comfortable with attending the birth from 36 weeks... Not that it will likely happen... My mom went to 42 weeks with both of us...
 

 


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Yup!  Baby's feeling quite strong and big (by their calculations through palpation, which apparently are more accurate than u/s, go figure...).  Also, I have short menstrual cycles and ovulated on day 11 of my cycle (as opposed to day 14, which is what all the pregnancy calculators go by), so I'm actually a few days farther along than my "official" due date, but we're still basing ourselves on the 28-day cycle calendar to guess the EDD in case I go over by a couple of weeks.  I have no health issues, good blood pressure, etc. so the m/w seemed quite comfortable with attending the birth from 36 weeks... Not that it will likely happen... My mom went to 42 weeks with both of us...
 

 

Interesting! I also o'ed on day 11 the cycle I got pregnant. Hmmm....so I'm more like 37 weeks on Monday! Woot!
 

 


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Interesting! I also o'ed on day 11 the cycle I got pregnant. Hmmm....so I'm more like 37 weeks on Monday! Woot!
 

 

 


crazy and exciting, huh?

 

 


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ho, ho... holy cow, how did I let myself get talked into this?  No pillows were used in the making of this Santa Claus...

 

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Aw, this is cute! Just think of all those summer mamas missing out on a chance to dress up a belly ;) 


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34 weeks 5 days!

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ho, ho... holy cow, how did I let myself get talked into this?  No pillows were used in the making of this Santa Claus...

 



OMG that is awesome! ROTFLMAO.gif


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