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OK, I just posted a question about a different school, but this is my other favorite option so far. Has anyone here done their CPM program? What did you think? Where did you ultimately end up practicing after getting your CPM?
Did anyone consider this school but ultimately choose another? What did you choose?
: So many options I don't know what to think!
|But if you don't plan on staying in Florida after you finish school, then that doesn't matter.|
Is there a different place you would recommend instead?
Wow Lisa for someone who has never even been there, or given birth there, you seem to have a lot of unkind things to say based on gossip.
MLL is a midwifey model of care run birth center, it is not a chop shop birth center, it is also a MEAC accredited institution, which is not an easy distinction to achieve. Some great midwives have passed though their doors and some of them even come from around the country to come back and teach. They are even leaders in MANA and MEAC.
It is true that the hospital staff could be very condescending toward our clients and ourselves, mostly for not doing birth in hospital, and if you have been around the block then I am surprised that you wouldn't take it with a grain of salt.
We had a client once who went out to dinner and her water broke at the restaurant. She came in per broken water protocol. She had cord prolapse from the gush at the restaurant that we discovered when we did heart tones (the first thing we do immediately when someone says their water broke). We transported correctly and immediately. The baby tragically died. A few days later I was at the hospital and got berated by a resident because we brought in a dead baby and how dare we do this to women, as if it was our fault, but he was also inferring to being irresponsible for doing birth out of hospital. Now that is an extreme example but there was very often a cold shoulder. And believe me we were kept under a tight professional thumb at MLL to always behave and defer no matter what anyone said to us at the hospital. MLL had a good relationship with the head ob at Thomison and consulted with him regularly, but for some reason, I could never figure out why he never really promoted our work and made sure we were respected among his students. Another thought is that maybe there were experiences with midwives from other practices that did not follow good science or professionalism that may have influenced an already biased and ignorant medical perspective on out of hospital birth that is sadly all to common in this country.
Anyway, I guess I should say to you that you really should be careful about what you say based on rumors and put your money where your mouth is and go and check it out for yourself. It is easy to arrange a visit.
BTW, all the staff and students are trained, certified and practice NNR regularly and all protocols (including ones developed with the head ob) are followed to the T. So much so that it is a bummer that you have to transport someone at 24 hours for broken waters because they, after being told to come in soon after your water breaks so many times prenatally, for whatever reason didn't come in until almost 24 hours and so you don't have time to help them get it going.
The director does not ever want to jeopardize the center for not following protocols and being professional...it would be a loss for the many women served by the center, might endanger the existence of midwives in TX and birthcenters in TX, and of a MEAC accredited institution - for the students.
I also can tell you that you work really really hard there and people do end up leaving because sometimes they can't handle it. The hours are long. Others leave because they realize, that, unlike Casa de Nacamiento, they will not get to catch and get numbers per say unless they stay for more than a month. Others realize that among all the hard work and not as many quick catches they also do not fit in because there Spanish is not up to par and it scares them having to do the work in Spanish. Some women might not want to take responsibility for the fact that it is just not the place for them and blame it on the institution itself. The director, Deb Kayley, is tough and expects a lot of hard work, adherence to protocols and professionalism...there is no way you can get away with being unsafe or disrespectful.
So, I am not really sure where you got your ideas from but I find them, after being there for 14 months, pretty unfounded and disrespectful. And I certainly have not run into anyone who has had the unkind words you have had about MLL.
Erika, mama to three beautiful kids (plus one gestating), and wife to one fantastic man.