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#1 of 17 Old 07-08-2014, 09:36 PM - Thread Starter
 
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Weekly Chat 7/8- 7/15

Again, my apologies to Apeydef for not putting up her spotlight thread yesterday; be sure to head to her thread and get to know her better! Ask questions for her to answer. :)


I just found out that my SIL has been put on bed rest. She is 36 weeks and has low fluid levels. If they don't improve, she will be induced in hospital. She was planning her second home birth. She has 3 very active boys at home so send her happy vibes!

AFM, I have been busy working at the hospital and adjusting to having my 3 kids home for the summer. I am thrilled to know we are having another boy (this will make 2 of each! YES!). I caught myself trying to convince my husband that we should have one more kid after this one (WHAT?!) and he was like: "this is second trimester crazy talk!" haha. He is totally right. I was ADAMANT that this was going to be our last baby just a few months ago in throes of first trimester nausea.

How is everyone else doing?

18 weeks here!! Second trimester is flying by!
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Almost 16.5 weeks and I'm amazed at how quickly time is flying by. I'm ok for the most part although I am struggling with food. Last night was awful in terms of food. I wasn't hungry, then I was craving O'Charley's so I ordered pasta and a salad. The pasta tasted disgusting to me so I ended up eating just the salad and the baby started dancing up a storm. I actually went to bed at 9:45 because I was completely wiped out.

I have a workout session tonight with a trainer so I'm trying to keep fit during my pregnancy but boy am I not so motivated.
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hello all again 😃 was waiting for this thread to start! Chapsie I would be so happy to help u but my english is terrible sorry! 😳 still some nausea dragging on and a new symptom since yesterday: a headache! 😪
other than that we ve been having poeple in our hostel 24/7 so I had no time to rest....and today i am supposed to be at our kids center helping organize it because we want to open it in august, but i just asked to be an hour late to have some break. being around people make me forget nausea simehow but it also drains me out so much these days! by the way I am totally lost which week I am in 😳.....I used to count every week waiting for nausea to pass but since its not passing I gave up the count 😊
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We went to what should've been the last of our genetic testing for second trimester (don't know if they do anything in third trimester?), but nope! An hour and a half of them trying to do all their measurements, and my baby wanted to "nap." They actually got annoyed with her! Midscanning, the tech who was taking care of everything left and got a specialist WITHOUT telling us. That freaks me out because of all the problems I had in my first pregnancy, and then that. He kept mumbling under his breath and then saying nothing to worry about. And after 30 min of him trying, he decided I have to come back in 10 days. They couldn't measure her heart growth or anything below the waist, and didn't even bother taking my blood like they were going to. What really irked me about the situation was how he kept calling my daughter a "fetus." She's 7in, 12oz, and my baby girl who has a name! And every time I kept correcting him, he ignored me! Unfortunately I had to deal with him because I guess there's only certain people who deal with the genetic testing portion of pregnancy around here without switching hospitals? Idk. It left me with an awful feeling, and if I didn't have to go back there, I wouldn't.

I'm 19w4d, getting impatient, and still trying to "enjoy" bed rest.

Chapsie- I was doing the "we are having another baby immediately after Madison is born" discussion the other day. DH laughed and said we can see how I felt after she was born. The bigger the family the better, right? :grin:
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@chapsie please do t feel bad. We are all busy moms.
I also think about another after this but we will see how I feel after two kids in two years and by the time I'm done breastfeeding the new baby it will be like 5 years of me being pregnant and/ or breastfeeding.

I had an appt today and heartbeat was fine! That's really all they did.
Two weeks and I have my ultrasound, I'm 17 weeks today. We just got a bill from the hospital a couple months ago for my so s birth. He's almost 21 months. My husband is mad and won't pay it so now out of principal bc they messed up the billing so many times. Now I'm worried they won't do my ultrasound when I go bc I owe them. It's not even that much money really, he's just being stubborn. It is frustrating it took then that long to correctly bill the insurance though!!
Info think I'm finally feeling some flutters. The dr could hear kicking I the monitor. Maybe this baby just isn't a giant like my others lol so I am not feeling it as soon! Lol
I'm feeling really good though lately. I live the second trimester. I'm not nauseous anymore and I don't require a nap everyday :).
@chapsie please let me know if you need my help!!
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Hi everyone!

Almost 18 weeks here. All nausea gone, appetite is good, and trying to work up the motivation to start yoga.

DD and I got back from a cross-country trip 5 days ago. The time difference is 11 hours and dd has terrible jet lag. She's been waking up at 2:30am daily since we got back. She goes to sleep around 2pm, and usually sleeps till 8pm or later unless I wake her, and even if I do she is super cranky. I have no clue how to fix this... Her jet lag wasn't bad when we went there, she just adjusted her bedtime, starting from 4pm and eventually getting to 9pm, and it only took a few days.

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17 weeks today! I have an appointment with my midwife later this morning. We're just trucking along- we have a trip to Minnesota planned in a few weeks (we're in Missouri so it's about an 11 hour drive). I'm starting to get a little nervous about the drive. I know we'll just need to stop every couple hours so I can get out and stretch my legs. I guess the idea of driving 10 hours with a toddler while 20 weeks pregnant is just a little daunting! But then we get to hang out by a lake for a week with my husband's family (they're great), so it'll all be worth it.
Other than that, I'm just trying to remain positive and thankful for the things I have and not the things I want.
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What country is 11 time zones across, @girlspn ?

My intestines are all in an uproar. I was having constant heartburn and nausea and constipation till I broke down and got Zofran, Zantac, and Dulcolax. More medicine than I normally take, but I feel so much better that it is worth it.

I am still really tired. I have my endocrinologist appointment next week. I kind of hope she turns up my Synthroid. I am too tired for being only 17 weeks.

DH is having growing pains with his new partner/new business. His partner works 80 hours a week and DH won't do it. He learned family/work balance the hard way a long time ago and knows that there is nothing to gain from burning the candle at both ends, but his partner does not feel the same way, and they are clashing about it. I know he will work it out, but I feel bad for him in the meantime. He is losing weight and has constantly bloodshot eyes.

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girlspn, Jet lag is supposed to be resolved very quickly by grounding, barefoot time outside might help?

galatea, I know an herb that can help resolve everything your medications do. And it cures cancer. Thousands of years of use attest to it's safety during pregnancy. Sadly years of misinformation in the past 8 decades or so have made it unavailable to cultivate legally. KWIM? Just met a woman a couple months ago who cured her breast cancer with it, in the process she got off of 6 different medications she'd been taking for menopausal related conditions and -thyroid meds she'd been on for years- her thyroid totally healed in the process of treating her breast cancer!! Amazing what a simple plant extract can do. I hope your Synthyroid gets adjusted to your liking, it must be frustrating to have to wait for an expert to adjust your medication when you know it needs adjusting.

I'm 18 weeks from LMP now, still not feeling regular movement but have had some pressure and a few flutters. Palpation feels like my uterus is all on the right side, this is normal for me but never this pronounced. Thinking I may look into massage techniques to help recenter. Told my mother, she sent me a lifetime supply of fermented cod liver oil (well it will get me through the first month of nursing at least) which I wanted/needed/craved so that's sweet. Decided to retire my favorite yoga type pants, I was still wearing them because the waistband was functioning as a belly band, and I realized I was getting dependent on the non-adjustable belly band and might have issues once I outgrew them, so I've put them away. Maternity yoga pants are staying up just fine anyway. Might try to schedule a pregnancy test this week, have a Dr. rec. from a friend for one who is homebirth friendly and ok with no/delayed vax, hopefully he will turn out to be nice. This would be the first time I saw a Dr during pregnancy since #1 , (midwives required one check in with their backup.) Lots of upper back pain on my left, wishing I had a chiropractor friend here because I sure don't have money for one. I actually have insurance (Medi-Cal) now which makes this the 2nd pregnancy for me to have a fall back, which I hope not to need to fall back on.

Our Lily cat had her kittens coming up on two weeks ago- Sunday night, right on the couch in the middle of all the awake kids! Youngest was sleeping, but everyone else stayed up late to watch laboring cat produce kitten #1 . Then I made them go to bed LOL. She had two. I've ben privileged to attend 3 laboring cats over the years. (About half our cat births, most of them have been unwitnessed by people, these are cases of the cat requesting human company.) The labor faces cats make! Dropping your jaw is a universal cervical opener I think.

Then the next morning our #7 woke up with a swollen face, we think mumps. He's been complaining of cheek pain for 2 days and refused to eat the night before- I inspected the hurt area and could see no difference, I had thought it was a canker sore but no sign of anything. Then the next day, puff face on that side and some momentary ear pain. A light fever for 1.5 days, no further pain, and by day 3 the swelling was gone. So the younger half of the family is quarantined for another week or two. It was a very mild case, and I'm grateful to own "How to Raise a Healthy Child In Spite of Your Doctor" by Dr. Mendlesohn, that book has saved us so much worry and so many Dr's visits over the last 17 years. It might be as important as "the Womanly Art of Breastfeeding."

Got to get off this puter, going to LLL today, sans kids since they are quarantined. First meeting here and first meeting in a long time, I hope to meet some other moms I can enjoy getting to know, but I expect to still be the weirdo. Not so many in my age bracket expecting their 8th around here- and I would love to meet some other crunchy mamas, but it seems like here where it is more natural for folks to breastfeed, only the conservative folk need LLL. Hoping it will be different.

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I do know what you mean, Alison, and I sorely miss it, but laws being what they are here, it's not for me now.

I used to breed and show dogs with my mom, and I midwifed many litters. Most of the time, it was awesome. One time we helped a friend with his dog, who was treated too much as a spoiled pet/human, and she panicked in labor and all the puppies were breech and all died. It was terrible. Other than that, doing this throughout my childhood and teen years is probably what gave me a sensible view of birth. The only thing is that the dogs used to eat the placentas so avidly that they would bite the cords off too close to the belly and we would have to stop the puppies' bleeding. I think this is why my human babies' cords always freaked me out. Or maybe it was the Far Side cartoon where the doctors don't tie off the cord and the baby goes zipping around the room like a deflated balloon.

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galatea-- I'm in Asia, and we took a family trip to Brazil. The jet lag after getting there is way easier to get over than the jet lag returning home!

crunchymama27-- I did not know that. We live in the city so unfortunately there's not even grass to go barefoot. We've been going swimming but nothing has worked so far. My SIL was on the same trip and her 8 month old son sleeps the same hours as my daughter-- all through the afternoon, and awake all night.

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If you have metal water pipes, those are grounding, ie carrying the earth's negative electrical charge. Attach a copper wire to the pipe, put the end of the wire through an alligator clip, clip the alligator clip to the inside of child's clothing so it is touching her body- you have a ground. Sleeping grounded works well if you are close enough to a bathroom- child isn't moving around and can keep it going for at least a few hours. While there are measurable physiological differences in the brain waves and muscle tone within the first few seconds of connection, it takes 30 minutes for the blood to thin and normalize (EMF fields cause our blood to be stickier than it naturally should be!!) and 30 minutes after the ground is broken these effects are lost. Another indoor option, fill the bathtub for a bath, put a copper wire between the faucet and the bathwater, you have a ground in your bath (maybe not even necessary to add the wire, if drain and drain pipe are metal.) Concrete is conductive, asphalt is not. So outdoors, sidewalks are grounded. Grass is not very conductive unless it is wet. Damp sand and mud are more conductive than dry earth. The combination of sunlight on the head and face and being grounded would be most effective. Grounding normalizes cortisol production which is how it affects sleep cycles. We don't know yet why it helps people to transition quickly between time zones, could have something to do with magnetism... Clint Ober is the guy to Google for more information.
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Some wonderful discussions going on here! Hello everyone!
Wow @Galatea & @crunchymama27 , it sounds very exciting and memorable to be a part of the births of other animals.. I've always wanted to have a pet that had babies ever since I was a kid.. Both of my parents lived on farms growing up and had so many stories of bringing baby things into the world.. But for some reason they chose the suburban lifestyle for my brother and I and we never happened to have a pet that got pregnant. :/ I'm hoping I can let my kids have that experience haha then I'll get my fix

It's funny you mention grounding, @crunchymama27 - that's a technique I use when I get panic attacks. I never had full on panic attacks until I got pregnant, and now I've had TWO big ones. One of those two happened tonight actually.. I just calmed myself down in the last hour. It's so frustrating because I'm not able to calm myself as easily now that I'm pregnant.. It's like my hormones run away with the feelings of anxiety and take it to an insane level. Tonight I wasn't able to slow my heart rate down for at least an hour, I was trying every trick I could think of and it didn't stop until I went through a few guided mediations. The first panic attack I had during this pregnancy, though, stopped right when I went outside and stood in the grass and started breathing fresh air. It's like the earth helped control my inner rhythm. Tonight it helped slow it down quite a but but for some reason it didn't stop entirely. Blehhhhh frustrating but it feels good to be normal now as I post this.

Tomorrow is 18 weeks for me! Time seems to be flying by.. Especially when I'm looking at the dates our midwife payment is due haha it feels like it's coming up fast! We really want to move into a better house in September, but that's also when the early payment (cheaper) option is due.. So that puts quite a strain on our budget. We might just have to pay the regular rate in November, since that would mean there's not such a time crunch for spending large chunks of money.
I think that's why I had a panic attack today.. I've been letting money stress me out but I know it will be okay. I've got to have faith, that's all I can do.. Anything else just makes me neurotic and that's not healthy. We will make ends meet, we always do.

I'm not sure if I've felt the baby yet, if I have it's been little butterfly flutters mainly when JB talks to my tummy, but I am not sure if it's our baby boy or just my imagination haha
Thank you @Chapsie and @apeydef for keeping up with the boards! No one should feel bad anytime ever, we are all pregnant women with complex lives outside of mothering.com so I'm sure everyone understands that you guys have other responsibilities to tend to, no worries! I'm glad @apeydef stepped up as co-leader so it doesn't all fall on one person!
@badwolf092087 that ultrasound experience sounds AWFUL.. It's terrible you are being forced to go back to them for lack of better options... I wouldn't want to help pay their salaries. I am so appalled just reading about your experience, how could they treat you and your darling baby girl that way? I'm sorry you had to deal with apathetic doctors especially when you're already dealing with other frustrations! I hope your next visit goes much smoother!
I only meant to get one ultrasound this pregnancy and I'm already at two, planning on having a third for the anatomy scan in another four or five weeks. Oy... Not that they've been negative experiences, but I do feel bad making baby boy listen to such annoying loud sound waves .. He moves around and makes complaining movements a lot when we are looking at him with that thing. I meant to just have the last one, but we couldn't find his heartbeat at 10 weeks so they had me go in at 11 weeks for an US to see the heartbeat.. Then I ended up having the emergency one a little over a week ago when I had spotting, just to ease my mind, and we found out the gender but they told me I'd have to come back for the anatomy scan still. Oh well. I'm so stoked about having a healthy baby boy it's hard to let much else bother me.

I'm definitely going to start meditating EVERY DAY from now on, to ease tension and try to train myself for labor in a way. I'm tired of these uncontrollable panic attacks (two is too many!) and I know I have some negative energies I'm carrying around that need to be replaced with positives...

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What country is 11 time zones across, @girlspn ?

My intestines are all in an uproar. I was having constant heartburn and nausea and constipation till I broke down and got Zofran, Zantac, and Dulcolax. More medicine than I normally take, but I feel so much better that it is worth it.

I am still really tired. I have my endocrinologist appointment next week. I kind of hope she turns up my Synthroid. I am too tired for being only 17 weeks.

DH is having growing pains with his new partner/new business. His partner works 80 hours a week and DH won't do it. He learned family/work balance the hard way a long time ago and knows that there is nothing to gain from burning the candle at both ends, but his partner does not feel the same way, and they are clashing about it. I know he will work it out, but I feel bad for him in the meantime. He is losing weight and has constantly bloodshot eyes.
This is so hard to get this balance. My husband struggles with this. I hate when he's stressed from work!!
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@KatelynRose yn the heartbeat isn't always heard at 10 weeks so it's weird they had you do an ultrasound. I don't think it's a concern until 12 weeks. My dr doesn't even listen for it until like 12 weeks.
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crunchymama, that's so interesting about grounding. I've never heard anything about it. It's been sunny lately (so rare here), and I think being out in the sun has helped me get over jet lag in a few days.

galatea, I hope you feel better soon. Do you know what causes heartburn and constipation?

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@apeydef yeah I felt like it was odd. I went with a CNM instead of CPM and I do feel like she is more willing to do all sorts of testing and stuff that I would've rather opted out of. This is my first time so oh well, she is very nice and supportive and I know I'll have a happy home birth with her, but I do think I'll make a different choice next time around. I'll have been through everything once before, too, so I'll be more confident in my decisions. Someday in the future I'd love to do an unassisted home birth .. But we'll see

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