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#361 of 433 Old 01-26-2011, 02:21 PM
 
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SweetBee, I thought you had to wait until a year of trying to get that appt? That's great you can do it now. What changed? Did I mix you up with someone else?


Nothing has changed except I am hoping they won't chase me out the door. This will be an appointment for a first discussion, no treatment or testing yet. We just tell them our situation and see.

 

I've been having pain (nothing big, but annoying) in my ovaries and/or uterus (not sure exactly where) every few days, so I thought I'd give a fertility specialist a shot since we're having trouble conceiving anyway and my cycles are all wacky. Maybe something is going on in there that's not quite right. Crossing my fingers, toes, and everything that can be crossed that they will not shoo me away.


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Kyamo - Fingers crossed for you!

 

MBA - ROOT BEER! The world can never be completely awful as long as there is root beer. Maybe you can also have a snow day tomorrow?

 

AFM... another dizzy night last night. And found out today dh is going to have to do 6 hours of labs every Saturday for the rest of the semester. And that we're going to be nearly $700 the poorer for it. Sigh. This, too, shall pass.

 

On the plus side, one of my friends who is pregnant (with her 4th) told me that she tried for 2 years for her first, and that I was free to smack her for being pregnant with her 4th. Didn't, of course, but it was nice to actually feel acknowledged. :)


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So I've reached the point where the people who got pregnant after I did with dd are getting pregnant again ahhhhhhh!  So unfair, I mean great for them but what about me?  I feel like throwing a tantrum, rolling around on the ground kicking and screaming I want a baby me me me!!!!!!!  I guess that wouldn't be an appropriate thing do at work so I'll try and contain myself.


I SO know what you mean.  hug2.gif  What's stupid for me is - today I was saddened by one of my colleagues' apearance....  NOT the pregnant one (although she didn't help...) - but one of the nearly-60yo women who simply carry their weight in the front.  It looked like a pg belly!!  Damn, I need to get over this.

 

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Does anyone know if it's possible to be pregnant when you have your usual post O symptoms? My BBs are so sore since Oing, but now my skin is breaking out and it never does that.

 

 I think such is very possible. Otherwise most women would suspect they were pregnant when they were. Yet, for most it is more of a guessing game.


yeahthat.gif  It absolutely SUCKS that all our "normal" pms/post-o/preg symptoms are so freaking similar. So I agree - it is very possible.

 

 

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MBA - ROOT BEER! The world can never be completely awful as long as there is root beer. Maybe you can also have a snow day tomorrow?

 

AFM... another dizzy night last night. And found out today dh is going to have to do 6 hours of labs every Saturday for the rest of the semester. And that we're going to be nearly $700 the poorer for it. Sigh. This, too, shall pass.

 

On the plus side, one of my friends who is pregnant (with her 4th) told me that she tried for 2 years for her first, and that I was free to smack her for being pregnant with her 4th. Didn't, of course, but it was nice to actually feel acknowledged. :)


MBA and monkeyscience:  Yay for root beer!!!!!  Hmm...  now I want root beer!!!!   Bu-ut I just came back from the shop and don't want to go out again....lol.gif  

 

and monkeyscience - that's awesome about your friend!  I didn't have anyone like that...  even my best friend has only one child, and has (so far) no intention of having any more (but she's recently started a new - good - relationship, so who knows how that will change)...  so as much as she "lets" me (and wants mt to) vent to her, I know (and she knows) that she doesn't really get it.  But I do have a colleague/friend though,  who (I found after my last m/c) has been through a lot of m/cs and fertility treatments - and still has no children, but has found some kind of peace with that (I guess she's thrown herself into her sisters' kids and her work - she is an AMAZING teacher and counsellor)....  so she gets what I'm going through.

 

AFM....  16dpo today and STILL no sign of AF.  WTF???????????????????????  Temp dropped this morning, but still above C/L....  I guess tomorrow will be the kicker .....  down again and I go and buy sushi and triple cream brie.    I have the wine already.

 

I am so NOT on speaking terms with my body right now.  irked.gif

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music, you have tested, right? Last month that happened to me, it was confusing and emotionally difficult.

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I remember hun - I was on pins and needles the whole time for you!!!!  Sorry state of affairs.    greensad.gif hug2.gif

 

And yeah.... last test was 2 days ago....  not testing again until I see what happens with my temps - unless the witch shows of course.  Staff is supposed to be going for drinks tomorrow after school...  I think if I go I'd just write myself off - and I'd rather do that at home.

 

Who knows?  I was a tad bit annoyed (could you tell?? hehe)  when I made the last post...  now I'm just over the whole thing.

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Well, at this point, I hope I am not pregnant, and I plan not to try any more. I am not even sure about my marriage anymore. I shouldn't write this out loud, but he wakes up grumpy every morning, and ruins my day because it starts me out upset. It always feels like he is grumpy at me. Maybe that is just him, but he is worried about money, and not sure he can help me out of my health insurance troubles (need money by monday) If I don't pay my Mnday, I am dropped and have to reapply and I have a chronic illness and am on expensive meds. I will not be able to get any healthcare.


I know he is worried, but he doesn't have to take it out on me greensad.gif Now I have to go to work (I am leaving early to get away from him) I am starting my day crying again mecry.gif

Like I said, I probably shouldn't have put this out there, I am just so upset and don't know who I can talk to.

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So I've reached the point where the people who got pregnant after I did with dd are getting pregnant again ahhhhhhh!  So unfair, I mean great for them but what about me?  I feel like throwing a tantrum, rolling around on the ground kicking and screaming I want a baby me me me!!!!!!!  I guess that wouldn't be an appropriate thing do at work so I'll try and contain myself.


I feel like this most days. Yesterday was my first day on my unit. Seeing all of the babies made me almost have another panic attack. What if I never have another baby? I have a lot of "fertile" years left, but what if they're full of difficult to achieve pregnancies followed by m/cs? Can I handle another 12-17 years of that? Especially with going to work and seeing babies all day long?
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Well, at this point, I hope I am not pregnant, and I plan not to try any more. I am not even sure about my marriage anymore. I shouldn't write this out loud, but he wakes up grumpy every morning, and ruins my day because it starts me out upset. It always feels like he is grumpy at me. Maybe that is just him, but he is worried about money, and not sure he can help me out of my health insurance troubles (need money by monday) If I don't pay my Mnday, I am dropped and have to reapply and I have a chronic illness and am on expensive meds. I will not be able to get any healthcare.


I know he is worried, but he doesn't have to take it out on me greensad.gif Now I have to go to work (I am leaving early to get away from him) I am starting my day crying again mecry.gif

Like I said, I probably shouldn't have put this out there, I am just so upset and don't know who I can talk to.

Oh, feel free to vent! I've been having a lot of days like this. Sometimes I wonder if my whole issue isn't caused by my marriage troubles. It's hard to know which comes first - the chicken or the egg - in this case the fertility problems or the marriage problems. What's truly ironic is my two living children were conceived and birthed when DH and I weren't married. Hardly seems fair that the kids we conceived the "right" way are the ones that keep leaving us.

AFM - Never got a (+)OPK but based on CM and temp I'm pretty sure I O'ed yesterday. And of course, I fell asleep at 8:30 with the kids and DH fell asleep and didn't wake me up to BD with me. So, technically, I could conceive b/c of BD Monday night but chances are slim. I just want to dig a hole and crawl into it. I'm trying to convince DH to BD this morning before he goes to work just on the off chance we could still catch the egg, but like Beloved's DH mine is being a huge grumpy jerk so I don't think that's going to happen. I think he's passive-aggressively keeping me from more kids. mecry.gif

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Beloved - hug.gif Sorry things are so rough for you right now. Like Lavatea, I have wondered if the fertility problems were related to marriage trouble. DH and I had along talk yesterday about trying really hard to not fight in the next few weeks, in hopes that we can make IVF actually work. I don't think it is any coincidence that I M/C'ed just at the time when DH and I were doing really bad.

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Well, DH did make time for BD this morning. And I just got a (+) OPK. No clue (as usual) what's going on since my temp jumped this morning and I had very little CM yesterday or so far today. I need to do some googling on how temp, OPKs, CM and actual O all relate. Either my understanding is off or my body isn't following the normal rules.

Can I just get/stay pregnant already? I'm so tired of analyzing, over analyzing, and reanalyzing every.little.thing.

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Reading everything....

 

So sorry Beloved, Lavatea and rcr about the marriage stuff. I think most married people are there, at least to some extent, at some point. Crazily enough, some days after our dd was conceived, I remember being so mad at dh that I considered stopping the TTC, which we had just started. 

 

I am in the WONDERFUL phase of the cycle: af almost done, so don't have to think of it... too early to TTC, so I can just chill. It is great to have a break, even if it is a short one.

 

Tomorrow I will head into the city to have coffee with a wonderful friend whom I have known for almost 15 years. Great!

 

I so want to buy the house... and it is so not possible right now. Luckily, I have not found "the house," just loving the idea in general.

 

I have become more assertive with the friend I "wrote to," above. It helps a lot! I am not saying anything to her, just being more assertive about my time and putting my family first.


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Thank you guys love.gif I am feeling a bit better. I was able to unload a bit with DH about my coworker, and he seemed to be understanding, he is really n ot being grumpy anymore, I am. I am pissed because he is such a grump much of the time. I do think it is true that TTC and marriage troubles go hand in hand. I think the money troubles and insurance thing is getting me in a panic, so it is not all him (if I am honest) but he reacts to me so badly when I ask a simple question, even though the question is not simple (but I have to ask)

Ugh, I would say more, but I have to go up to bed. He actually told me that the reason he doesn't want to BD is because of worries over money greensad.gif (I didn't know he didn't want to)

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Ugh, I would say more, but I have to go up to bed. He actually told me that the reason he doesn't want to BD is because of worries over money greensad.gif (I didn't know he didn't want to)


Sounds like a pretty typical man thing, so try not to take it personally. You know, he is showing you that he thinks and is responsible (even if it goes too far, in your opinion).

 

I think I still may not be taking enough thyroid meds, looking at my morning temps. How high are your temps in the early cycle, and then after ovulation? (Just trying to find out if mine are super low.) It is not impossible that our infertility is still thyroid related. Many women have wonky cycles with hypothyroidism, which I never had. I am just infertile, even after having adjusted the meds and found an at least somewhat good balance. The problem is that I have once been hyperthyroid, due to too high a dose of meds and it was really terrible. I finally was able to lose some weight but became totally panicky. I really don't want to experience that again! However, the more I take, as long as I don't become hyper, the better I feel and the easier it is to possibly even lose some weight. With a super slow metabolism that is really en uphill battle.

 

Thinking of you all and hoping Jane can take someone else along from here. Honestly, I don't know if I could deal with the ddc, if I got pregnant. I did not have much tolerance for little whines and ignorance even when pregnant with dd, so I doubt I could stand the chit chat. BTW, I am not saying everyone there whines and is ignorant... not at all... But I think you know what I mean.


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Honestly, I don't know if I could deal with the ddc, if I got pregnant. I did not have much tolerance for little whines and ignorance even when pregnant with dd, so I doubt I could stand the chit chat. BTW, I am not saying everyone there whines and is ignorant... not at all... But I think you know what I mean.



Being in a DDC, hmm, I don't think I would have any problem with symptom whines, if I was actually pregnant too. After all, despite how overjoyed I would be to actually be pregnant doesn't mean I would be overjoyed to have horrible morning sickness, or whatever other unpleasant symptom. What would be painful for me being in a DDC is reading the intro and due date threads, where people usually post how long they were trying, and it seems like one in three posts say it was the first time trying, or a surprise, or something like that. Putting aside all DDC negatives though, I really wish I could actually belong in one!


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MonkeyScience - The acknowledgement is nice, my sil who I never talk to about my troubles gets it even though she never had any trouble.  I know she gets it as she is reluctant to tell me about friends that are getting pregnant, I usually find out when her husband tells mine.  I appreciate the fact that she assumes the news will hurt me.

 

Lavatea - Panic attack, yes that is how I feel sometimes.  I was driving to work the other morning and out of the blue - I wasn't even thinking about babies - I felt complete panic l was like what if I never have another, what if it just doesn't happen, even when I'm not thinking about it I guess some part of me still is!

 

BelovedK - I agree with LessTraveledBy about it being a man thing and to try and not take it personally, my dh is similar but his grumpiness is at night, I thought it had something to do with me until I finally asked him about it.

 

LessTraveledBy - I too like the time after af shows (and I get over that) until O, you can stop obsessing for awhile, my obsessing is about to begin as I should O on Sunday, should make for a fun weekend as long as I can get dh on board, which is actually harder than it should be!

 

Happy Friday to everyone!  (I am off work today hanging with my dd, hence the great mood!)

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Belovedhug.gif Men are often moody. They say we are, but they are also. And they can't blame the swing of hormones. orngtongue.gif My husband doesn't get why I am so upset over our TTC troubles. He is disappointed, too, but someone it's not at as deep of a level as I think we all feel it, if that makes sense.

 

 

So. . . I've been through a lot this week. Some of you might remember my non-tooth mouth pain from a couple of weeks ago. The surgeon who took out my wisdom teeth said to soothe it with a warm towel and go to my dentist if it didn't help. Wed night/Thurs early morning I woke up with a lot of pain and suffered through it for a few hours until the dentist opened. Went there and waited for him to see me. He agreed it wasn't a tooth/gum thing and gave me an emergency referral to the nose/throat/ear doctors at the hospital. There, I waited for over an hour (closer to 2), even though I was supposedly marked as "emergency". Two doctors looked at me, couldn't find anything wrong (though I was in pain all the while), so they sent me to neurology via the emergency entrance. Where I waited for awhile again before another doctor looked at me in the outside area until space opened up on one of the cots inside. Then another doctor looked at me, and then finally the head of their department came, too. I must be a confusing case. innocent.gif They think it's a jaw problem, so they sent me home with painkillers and the promise that a jaw specialist doctor will call me next week to make an appointment. Whew! So, I guess this is the first time it's good to be on CD4 and a late ovulator. Time to get this sorted out.

 

The weird thing is the pain comes only every few days, then it's really strong and doesn't go away until I take a pain killer strong enough. Then no pain for a few days again and repeat.

 

Oh, and we finally got in touch with the fertility doctor, and they are so overbooked that they can't even see me until this summer! They're sending us some information, but I think I need to check if there's another place that can see me sooner.


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Sweet.Bee - Wow,  I sure hope you get some answers about your jaw/mouth pain!  You poor thing! hug2.gif

 

Kyamo & LTB -   I think they need to have a separate DDC for the people that suffer w/ infertility.  I know several people that have been on the IUI/IVF threads that say they feel like they don't belong in their DDC so this would solve the problem, I'd think.

 

LTB -  Where does your Dr want your thyroid levels while you are TTC?  I'm also hypo and it hasn't even been a yr so I'm just starting to figure this whole thing out.  I know when we got prego in Nov (IVF) before we m/c I just had a feeling that my levels were off and I asked for them to be check and after some arm twisting they gave in and it was 6.6 (i think it was) so they upped my dose, but supposedly they say that would be the reason why we m/c'd, but I don't know.  Always makes you wonder.   It has been maybe almost 6 months since I've temped but I think my temps were around 97.7 ish before O and 98.3-98.7 ish after.  I was just going to go look at FF but then remembered I put it on hold the other day to save my days since I'm not using it  right now.

 

Lavatea - Fingers crossed that you hit the target with your BD yesterday morning!  Also, I just wanted to send a hug2.gif to you b/c everytime I see your profile pic it breaks my heart.  Is that one of your little angels (hope you don't mind me asking).  Sorry I don't know your story b/c I'm kinda new here.

 

Beloved - hug2.gif I hope things start getting better at home w/ DH.  I always hate when my DH comes home from work moody so I can't imagine waking up to that everyday.

 

Music - thinking of you and sending you positive vibes.


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Hi, everyone.  Sorry to all who are having sucky lives right now.  This post is a ME post--I O'd yesterday, no BD'ing in days because of various factors.  But unplanned, so I've been temping and checking cervical fluid and position and doing OPKs.  All that prep-work and absolutely no hope of anything.  rolleyes.gif 

 

In other news, DH had a urology appointment Wednesday.  He is to take a dose of Sudafed, produce a semen sample and a urine sample, and drop them off at the lab.  Also, he is to clear his digestive system prior to our next appointment, in late February, in case he needs to have a bladder ultrasound.  The new analyses are to determine if he has retrograde ejaculation.  If the Sudafed helps with that, he'll suddenly have millions of useful sperm in the semen cup.  If not, and he has the retrograde thing, there will be millions of dead sperm in the pee cup.  The interesting thing about that is, if necessary, before an IUI, the sperm can be salvaged from a cupful of pee, and shot into me.  I find this a little distressing.  If there is no sperm in either specimen cup, he'll have to have an ultrasound to check for a blockage.  Which there is a good chance of, according to the doctor.  DH had kidney stones years ago, and not only did the giant stones rip their way out of him, but he also had stints in his urethra.  Either of those things can cause scar tissue that could keep the sperm from getting out of him and into me.  This is correctable with surgery, at least.

 

The doctor also pointed out something we hadn't considered.  He asked lots of questions about my cycle, and pointed out that injectables will be very expensive, and with PCOS and male factor, IUI might only give us a 0-5% chance of pregnancy.  Not really worth doing.  He did say to not get hung up on that until we get the new test results back, but it's something to consider.

 

One amusing thing.  DH has up to this point been only tangentially involved in the infertility process.  Obviously, he's a participant in the BD'ing, but in terms of figuring out the problem, all the invasive, humiliating, awful stuff has happened to me.  Somehow, at the urology appointment, when discussion of enemas and ultrasounds occurred, he thought his urologist was telling me that I would have to have an enema and an ultrasound.  He said he thought to himself, "Oh, my poor lovey!" and was feeling very sympathetic.  Then he realized that no, it was his rear end being discussed.  I pointed out that it was unlikely his urologist would schedule an ultrasound for me, and also, that I have a vagina for internal ultrasounds.  Which I've already had.  No booty required.  It is now hitting home for him, I think.  I'm not glad that he has to be miserable and embarrassed, but it's nice that the onus is not all on me for once.

 

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Beloved:  I agree with the other ladies...  I do think it's a fairly typical man-thing.  I think they try to hard to be "tough" all the time - and that makes it seem even more moody to us.  They don't like to show that they're actually able to be worried/upset/sad/angry/whatever else...  heck, that would be admitting they were human!!  Heaven forbid we ever find out that they're not infallible....  Glad your feeling a little better - just know that you're most definitely not alone in this!

 

 

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Thinking of you all and hoping Jane can take someone else along from here. Honestly, I don't know if I could deal with the ddc, if I got pregnant. I did not have much tolerance for little whines and ignorance even when pregnant with dd, so I doubt I could stand the chit chat. BTW, I am not saying everyone there whines and is ignorant... not at all... But I think you know what I mean.

 

I know exactly what you mean.  I have an extremely low tolerance threshold for any kind of whining, regardless of reason (which is the reason I have moved all of my stuff out of the communal staffroom permanently into my classroom - so I don't have to listen to anyone else (and I can whine all by myself!)).  I'm almost completely avoiding my pg colleague - she was moaning and sighing the other day about not being able to relax because the baby never  moves when she's up and moving, it only ever moves when she's sitting or lying down (duh!).....  she's 23 weeks now (oh, yes, we're getting the weekly updates too) - can you imagine what she's going to be like in another 10-15 weeks?  

 

Damn - now that sounds like I'm whining.  I'm honestly really happy for her, and we normally get along really well ...  I know if I took her aside and even hinted at how I was feeling she would absolutely stop, but I can't bring myself to do that.  I guess it's a combination of just not wanting to share, not wanting the attention...  and generally just not wanting to make her feel bad.  

 

Sweet.Bee:  if you're grinding your teeth it could absolutely be a jaw problem.  Do you remember I mentioned I have to use a bite splint?  Maybe you could mention that next time you're in...  it definitely helped me (not saying that you're having the same issues...  but it sounds very familiar to me).

 

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Kinza: you must have posted while I was typing!  It sounds like you have a great med team - I hope you get the answers you need soon.  hug2.gif

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hug2.gif to all those experiencing marital stress.

 

Kinza - Isn't it nice not to be the only one being poked and prodded? My dh doesn't have issues on his end, but it was nice to have him get more actively involved in the invasiveness of it all when he had to do his SA. Not the end of the world, but plenty embarrassing enough for him.

 

AFM... done with the dizzy medicine, thank goodness. Hopefully some answers in the next few weeks.


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Beloved hug2.gif(and others) My DH also gets grumpy and I get so down about it sometimes. Actually, just yesterday he was royally upset with me over something totally out of my control. But once we discussed it, he was ok. Still, i spent the greater part of the day feeling pretty down about the whole situation. I hope it gets much better. I do think fertility issues are soooo hard on a marriage, no matter what the state of marriage was when starting ttc.

 

Kinza that cracked me up that your DH thought it was you that was going to have to go through all those procedures and not him! I do think it is nice to have the focus off you for a little while.

 

LTB and Music I am with you on the zero tolerance for whining during pregnancy thing. I had a truly, truly difficult pregnancy with DS, bedrest for FIVE months, terrible all day and night morning sickness for the four months prior to the bedrest, and was in terrible pain with every muscle in my pelvic floor pulled, plus gestational diabetes, plus gallbladder issues, and at the end, I also had a a problem with one of my kidney's because DS was sitting on it, and it caused me even more pain. Yet, I was THANKFUL every day because I just wanted a baby. And yes, it was horrible. But, I am still willing to go through it again if it gets me another baby. (Although, Lord willing, it would not be as bad next time because the problem that caused the pelvic floor issues has been worked on, and the gallbladder issue seems to be related to something that is helped by chiropractic work, and I am eating virtually no sugar and still basically follow the GD diet so that hopefully would not be an issue) Anyway, after what I went through, I just have a very, VERY hard time listening to anyone whine about how much it stinks to gain all this weight, or how much it stinks to get a little constipated sometimes, or how they, gasp, threw up once or twice...I just don't have the patience for it. I am not saying by any means I am any better than anybody else or anything like that, and if I had not been through what I had been through, maybe I would think it was awful to have gas and constipation sometimes. But I was in crying pain every day. So yeah, I am just not the person to whine to. So I also think I might not have the patience for a DDC..I don't know. I guess if/when the day comes I will see. I hope that doesn't offend anybody, it's just how I feel. I don't mean this to sound like I am whining about my experience either. I am still extremely grateful and it was totally worth every second.

 

Lavatea I hope you got it this time!

 

SweetBee what a fiasco! I hope you are feeling much better and can get in to the jaw specialist soon and get some help! tooth pain is so awful! And yes, it does sound like it's a good think that you are on CD4 and a late ovulator for right now. Once you get this behind you, it's back on though!

 

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lilmom... so sorry you had to go through all that! Rough stuff!

 

Kinza... I am thrilled for you that you will be getting some answers!

 

I had coffee with a close friend yesterday for 4 hours. It was soooo wonderful! For the first time, ever, I think, I also really enjoyed going shopping a bit in the city without dd. I love going to places with her, but I have now decided to look for the good in her being almost 6 and not having another.  It was so much easier to walk just by myself, without pushing a stroller. (Dd walks rather long distances now and used to be carried, but my bag went in the stroller... hah. She can't walk for hours and hours, though, so I still would need the stroller with.) Meanwhile, dd and dh had had a blast.

 

I read more about the immune stuff last night. It just seems like a pretty good possibility that I have an immune issue (natural killer cells or something) that prevents implantation. Mainly, I am thinking this because hypothyroidism is the only thing I already know is wrong with me, and that could cause immune issues. My cycles are so regular and "nice" these days and my uterus is supposed to be ok. I also have no reason to think that something has changed drastically with dh. The thing is, to find out about the immune issues, I would need to send a blood sample to the US. That means $$$. BUT, if I really do have immune issues, I will not get pregnant, ever, unless it is treated. Sooo... All of a sudden I am a bit more interested in the idea of going to the US in the summer. There is a doctor I could see in Chicago... Yet, without health insurance, I can only imagine what even one visit would cost. I think I should mention this to mil, as she REALLY wants us to come... lol. I plan to find out today, how much the blood test would be.


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Wow, you ladies are busy lol.gif No posts for a whole day and I wake up to a page of new ones orngtongue.gif
Sweet.Bee, I hope you get the jaw thing sorted out. I'm sorry you are going through all of this hug.gif

LTB, I hope you figure it out soon, it is exciting, the prospect of finding out what is wrong, so you can remedy it.

Kinza, I'm glad your DH is "pitching in" and getting himself checked out!

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afm, DH is nice sometimes, and still grumpy. I just woke up and was temping and accidentally knocked something over, he got all huffy, and upset with me. I couldn't help it, it wasn't like I was trying to wake him up. I am beyond sick of it. I made an appt for us to go to short term marriage counseling, so we can learn to work together with our finances, and he will stop calling everything I do that is not work/money making, frivolous. (my dance, art, things that I have always done,) and I am a sensitive and creative person and need that release.

I am putting TTC on hold until we can work things out, because I am simply pissed, and near my breaking point. I am trying to make more money, but I also have other "frivolous" things that I like to do. I would be so grumpy if I was held back and suppressed.

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Quick update. DH was grumpy because he was up all night worrying over money greensad.gif and we just had a long and nice talk and I am feeling so much better. It wasn't about me, BUT he needs to stop acting that way towards me. Still going to the counseling.

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Glad to hear you had a good talk with your dh, Beloved. I hope the counseling helps, too. Money trouble sucks. :( But you are right - you can't cut yourself off from everything you enjoy because of money issues.


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How high are your temps in the early cycle, and then after ovulation?

Most of my pre-O temps are between 96.9 and 97.3. I have a few that go as low as 96.6, several between 97.3 and 97.5, and a few that are as high as 97.7. My post-O temps are all 97.5 or above. Most fall in the range of 97.7 to 98.2, although my cycles prior to November had higher post-O temps, most in the range of 98.0 to 98.6.
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Lavatea - Fingers crossed that you hit the target with your BD yesterday morning!  Also, I just wanted to send a " rel="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/hug2.gif">hug2.gif to you b/c everytime I see your profile pic it breaks my heart.  Is that one of your little angels (hope you don't mind me asking).  Sorry I don't know your story b/c I'm kinda new here.

I hope we hit it, too. We also got in a BD last night, which I hope covers our bases in case O is later than temperature suggests and more in line with the OPK result. As for my pic, yes, that is my 3rd child, Avery. He was my first m/c and the baby that was farthest along at time of loss. We lost him at 18 weeks, although my uterine height and his ultrasound suggested fetal demise around 14 weeks. We heard the heartbeat at 13 1/2 weeks so I know he was at least that far along. As horrible as it was to lose a baby in the 2nd trimester, at least I have pictures of him. It breaks my heart that I have nothing to show for the other two.
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Hi, everyone.  Sorry to all who are having sucky lives right now.  This post is a ME post--I O'd yesterday, no BD'ing in days because of various factors.  But unplanned, so I've been temping and checking cervical fluid and position and doing OPKs.  All that prep-work and absolutely no hope of anything.  " rel="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif">rolleyes.gif 

 

" rel="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif">In other news, DH had a urology appointment Wednesday.  He is to take a dose of Sudafed, produce a semen sample and a urine sample, and drop them off at the lab.  Also, he is to clear his digestive system prior to our next appointment, in late February, in case he needs to have a bladder ultrasound.  The new analyses are to determine if he has retrograde ejaculation.  If the Sudafed helps with that, he'll suddenly have millions of useful sperm in the semen cup.  If not, and he has the retrograde thing, there will be millions of dead sperm in the pee cup.  The interesting thing about that is, if necessary, before an IUI, the sperm can be salvaged from a cupful of pee, and shot into me.  I find this a little distressing.  If there is no sperm in either specimen cup, he'll have to have an ultrasound to check for a blockage.  Which there is a good chance of, according to the doctor.  DH had kidney stones years ago, and not only did the giant stones rip their way out of him, but he also had stints in his urethra.  Either of those things can cause scar tissue that could keep the sperm from getting out of him and into me.  This is correctable with surgery, at least.

 

" rel="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif">The doctor also pointed out something we hadn't considered.  He asked lots of questions about my cycle, and pointed out that injectables will be very expensive, and with PCOS and male factor, IUI might only give us a 0-5% chance of pregnancy.  Not really worth doing.  He did say to not get hung up on that until we get the new test results back, but it's something to consider.

 

One amusing thing.  DH has up to this point been only tangentially involved in the infertility process.  Obviously, he's a participant in the BD'ing, but in terms of figuring out the problem, all the invasive, humiliating, awful stuff has happened to me.  Somehow, at the urology appointment, when discussion of enemas and ultrasounds occurred, he thought his urologist was telling me that I would have to have an enema and an ultrasound.  He said he thought to himself, "Oh, my poor lovey!" and was feeling very sympathetic.  Then he realized that no, it was his rear end being discussed.  I pointed out that it was unlikely his urologist would schedule an ultrasound for me, and also, that I have a vagina for internal ultrasounds.  Which I've already had.  No booty required.  It is now hitting home for him, I think.  I'm not glad that he has to be miserable and embarrassed, but it's nice that the onus is not all on me for once.

 

Sorry for the selfish entry.  My head just feels like it's about to explode.


Thank you for explaining all of that technical stuff about your DH's possible retrograde problem. I find it very interesting. I'm sorry you guys are having to go through with all of that, though. I'm glad your DH is willing. I don't know that mine would be.
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I read more about the immune stuff last night. It just seems like a pretty good possibility that I have an immune issue (natural killer cells or something) that prevents implantation. Mainly, I am thinking this because hypothyroidism is the only thing I already know is wrong with me, and that could cause immune issues. My cycles are so regular and "nice" these days and my uterus is supposed to be ok. I also have no reason to think that something has changed drastically with dh. The thing is, to find out about the immune issues, I would need to send a blood sample to the US. That means $$$. BUT, if I really do have immune issues, I will not get pregnant, ever, unless it is treated.

I haven't read up on this extensively, and it's been some time since I was reading about it, but my understanding was that the natural killer cells issue was one that could spontaneously clear on its own - just as quickly as the problem showed up. So that it's possible that even without treatment one might be able to get pregnant again in the future. confused.gif
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Quick update. DH was grumpy because he was up all night worrying over money greensad.gif and we just had a long and nice talk and I am feeling so much better. It wasn't about me, BUT he needs to stop acting that way towards me. Still going to the counseling.

Amen. We don't take our problems out on them (or at least we try not to!) so they shouldn't take theirs out on us! If it's not too personal, would you mind keeping us posted on if counseling helps? This may be something DH and I need to look into.

SweetBee - Thinking of you and the mouth pain. I hope that gets figured out.

Anyone heard from Jane?

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- Temperature still suggests possible O on CD 16 (FF is making it a dotted line). I'm hoping it's a fake-out and I really O'ed on CD 17 or even yesterday. So far my "post-O" temps have been 97.7, 97.5, and 97.7. Nothing spectacular there. My CM has been almost non-existent, though.I guess I will know in two weeks. Probably going to try to get one more BD in today then not worry about it for a while.

I told DH that if I don't get pg this cycle, next cycle I'm going to make him BD with me from CDs 10-18, lol. I probably won't even temp. I feel myself slipping back into major obsession land (worse than normal) and think I need a break. I still want to TTC, but I think if I break from charting again for a bit maybe that will help with the stress. I haven't been checking my cervix this cycle and that's been nice. It wasn't telling me a whole lot anyway b/c it was ripening early and staying favorable for a large window of time. Anyway, based on all of the cycles I've charted I O anywhere from CDs 14-17. So a BD window from CD 10-18 should cover it. Maybe I'll even stretch it to CD 19, just in case.

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I'm a ray of unshine. They are no more than 5 weeks pregnant. And posting belly pics, arguing that ultrasounds are unneccesary, talking names, and telling everyone!
I just want my baby to be alive, and in my uterus, not a tube.
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I'm here.
God I'm bitter. I tried hanging out in a DDC, but damn!
I'm a ray of unshine. They are no more than 5 weeks pregnant. And posting belly pics, arguing that ultrasounds are unneccesary, talking names, and telling everyone!
I just want my baby to be alive, and in my uterus, not a tube.
Ultrasound on Tuesday.

hug2.gif I hear you, hon. Sometimes I feel like posting in the DDC, "Do you have ANY idea what I went through to get here?" I'm just so appreciative of every symptom, even when they are really hard. But then again I did just whine about throwing up...hide.gif I hope your ultrasound on Tuesday shows a beautiful little baby living in a perfect spot in your uterus, and that you can start feeling so pregnant that you're tempted to whine, too. goodvibes.gif

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I'm here.
God I'm bitter. I tried hanging out in a DDC, but damn!
I'm a ray of unshine. They are no more than 5 weeks pregnant. And posting belly pics, arguing that ultrasounds are unneccesary, talking names, and telling everyone!
I just want my baby to be alive, and in my uterus, not a tube.
Ultrasound on Tuesday.

hug2.gif I hear you, hon. Sometimes I feel like posting in the DDC, "Do you have ANY idea what I went through to get here?" I'm just so appreciative of every symptom, even when they are really hard. But then again I did just whine about throwing up...hide.gifI hope your ultrasound on Tuesday shows a beautiful little baby living in a perfect spot in your uterus, and that you can start feeling so pregnant that you're tempted to whine, too. goodvibes.gif

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