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O_T..... So sorry about the neighbor situation. My parents also had that happen, expect it was the mom next door that went nuts.. every_single_night. It took social services a lot of time to truly step in, but luckily things are going ok now.

MBA... Isn't it kind of a good thing the tests have not come, yet? Maybe they will arrive around 12 dpo, which would be a better time to test, anyway. ;)

Dd turns 6 today. Bitter sweet for me and aaaaawesome for her. Ha ha. I have the initial appointment at the doctor today. I am really NOT looking forward to it. Whenever I see a doctor (except my amazing thyroid specialist), I feel like they think I am from another planet. You know, my thyroid stuff (I take a medication many have never heard of), my charting, any online research and suspicions, etc. It is just not fun!

The only chart I have ever lost is the one from the month dd was conceived. Bummer! However, I do remember thinking that we dtd once, only, and I thought it was a day or too late. I was rather surprised that it had not been too late when I tested. I am now wondering if that actually allowed us to conceive, you know, having the perfect timing with lots of swimmers due to having abstained right before. I'll never know, I guess, considering that the man's situation can change so much, anyway. Just an interesting thought. I am now hoping there is some way that we can have dh tested (as we won't be doing it the usual way). It would change the situation a bit if, e.g., we found out that I am not the only reason, or even the reason at all. He is a very athletic guy, so I think in his mind it seems he cannot have issues. (Just does not work that way, although I think a lot of guys somehow think it does.) Anyway, for the first time I am wondering if we just don't work well enough together at this point, instead of thinking I must have some big problem. Please, please, could we get some results so we could move on....?!
 
#203 ·
MBA- Actually it's kind of a pinkish red... "devilish" by Special Effects. It's the most amazing dye ever, bright colors like blue, pink, green etc. and it won't fade for months. It's the only temp dye I've ever seen where my roots are more likely to grow out before the color fades too much. And most of the green shades fade to a really cool blue shade when it fades, so I can get away with dyeing less often. No animal testing too. I recommend it to everyone
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And yeah, my state is TERRIBLE about responding to domestic abuse cases properly. I wouldn't really be terribly surprised if the cops just didn't report finding something the other day, it happens here often enough. Being a homebody, I stand a good chance of being here if cops need to be called again, so that makes me feel a little better.
 
#204 ·
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MBA- Actually it's kind of a pinkish red... "devilish" by Special Effects. It's the most amazing dye ever, bright colors like blue, pink, green etc. and it won't fade for months. It's the only temp dye I've ever seen where my roots are more likely to grow out before the color fades too much. And most of the green shades fade to a really cool blue shade when it fades, so I can get away with dyeing less often. No animal testing too. I recommend it to everyone
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And yeah, my state is TERRIBLE about responding to domestic abuse cases properly. I wouldn't really be terribly surprised if the cops just didn't report finding something the other day, it happens here often enough. Being a homebody, I stand a good chance of being here if cops need to be called again, so that makes me feel a little better.
We lived above a woman once who continuously called the cops on us because my daughter would scream and cry at bedtime (my daughter was 2-3 at the time). One time she even told the cops that my husband was hurting me and that he jumped off the balcony and ran off when they showed up. Actually, he was at work and hadn't even been home yet. The cops came through and searched my apartment. It was pretty embarrassing, but they seemed about as embarrassed as me. They ended up writing me a noise violation because she insisted. So I had to show up to court, but she never showed so the charges were dismissed. (This same lady also complained to the apartment manager b/c my husband showered at 1 or 2 in the morning when he got home from work, and also b/c I washed clothes too late at night for her liking.)

I say all this not to discredit what you heard, b/c I'm not there (and it sounds like your walls must be somewhat thin if you were able to hear the actual words this jerk was saying). But I think sometimes things sound differently in other apartments than what is really going on.
 
#205 ·
I very much agree. What really scared me was the woman screaming "NO! NO!", then horror movie shrieking, and then a thump sound, and then the baby crying very suddenly just outright stopping...and that followed by him yelling stuff like "Where you gonna go *****? Shut the **** up and shut that ******* baby up!"

Our walls aren't terribly thin, but we have a vent in the bathroom that seems to be shared with theirs, so we actually hear them pretty clearly when they're in the bathroom or master bedroom, I could make out whole sentences, not just when they shout, but half the time when I'm in the bathroom, I hear stuff like potty training sessions and bathtime.

I don't call cops very easily, since I REALLY don't trust the cops in this town, and at a previous apartment I've had neighbors call the cops on me because I knocked on the wall because it was 3 AM and they were getting way too loud with their party (Cops came and arrested them because they talked to us, and we were sitting there playing a card game in our pajamas, and they realized our neighbors really were too loud, had minors drinking, and they were breaking beer bottles on the side walk and getting into fights). I even waited to make sure it didn't just sound like just a screaming match, because I've had those with people on occasion and they aren't always violent. I waited until I was sure I had reason to believe it was getting violent, and even then mostly because it sounded like children could get hurt. I might have waited longer or not called at all if there hadn't been a newborn and two toddlers up there. The babies cry sometimes, and I hear them and even got into a discussion about babywearing with DH as a result of hearing it. That alone doesn't make me call the cops. We get a little loud over here on Sunday nights sometimes, so I'm less inclined to call because I'm glad they tolerate us as well and want that to continue. Also, this was afternoon, so they weren't keeping us awake or bothering us, I really was just concerned. I put up with a lot of noise and don't really care, this though really scared me. I called when I was all but convinced that they killed the baby.

This was a lot of stomping and thump sounds that sounded like things (or people) being thrown, as well as screaming and sobbing and curse words. That loud scream was more like the scream at the end of Suddenly Last Summer than how someone usually screams in a shouting match. (fast forward to three minutes ).

So yeah, I completely sympathize with you, been there myself, but this one sounded pretty clear to me, DH too, and I'd rather call the cops by mistake if there are kids involved and it sounds like that.
 
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So just writing to complain, I am now on cd 58, totally unheard for me. So I've now missed 2 periods, I saw the doctor this morning who assured me that it is completely normal, nothing to worry about and to come back in 5 weeks if I still haven't gotten my period, no blood work, no pills to help af along nothing, he assured me that I would be cancelling my apt. because I would have gotten my period by then. I'm sure he's probably right but I just expected some kind of action now. 5 weeks that seems like forever away. AF better show up before then I need to get back on the TTC Bus
 
#207 ·
Well I think this thread was the good luck charm I needed because I got a BFP! Very faint but totaly there. I hate to be one of those people who joins just to leave right away but I am off to the graduates thread. Hopefully I won't be back except to visit.
 
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Well I think this thread was the good luck charm I needed because I got a BFP! Very faint but totaly there. I hate to be one of those people who joins just to leave right away but I am off to the graduates thread. Hopefully I won't be back except to visit.
Congratulations Rachel! :)

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So just writing to complain, I am now on cd 58, totally unheard for me. So I've now missed 2 periods, I saw the doctor this morning who assured me that it is completely normal, nothing to worry about and to come back in 5 weeks if I still haven't gotten my period, no blood work, no pills to help af along nothing, he assured me that I would be cancelling my apt. because I would have gotten my period by then. I'm sure he's probably right but I just expected some kind of action now. 5 weeks that seems like forever away. AF better show up before then I need to get back on the TTC Bus
That seems so odd to me. Did you have an exam or anything at all? Or did he just say it was normal without checking anything? (And since when is missing 2 periods normal? I mean, is it really normal? I've never heard that.)

AFM: I am exhausted with all of this. I've had my saline infusion sonohysterography and it was just ridiculously painful. My heart goes out to everyone having to go through procedures and fertility treatments, etc...cause seriously I just had no idea how awful it can be. I'm very glad that IVF and IUI and all of those are not in our future because right now I can't even imagine it. I just wish it wasn't so difficult. :( I feel like I need something to help me have a more positive attitude about all of this, because right now I just feel pretty awful.
 
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so (yesterday) 10 dpo bfn, part of me hopes it's too early, but the other part is already done with the cycle and telling myself "I told you so" that this fertility BS won't work.

my betas are on Monday. I wish I could have them sooner so I can get this cycle over with and go off this progesterone garbage.
 
#210 ·
Congrats Rachel! I hope you will never need to be back here!

I don't know what I am thinking today..... Had the infertility appointment which gave me nothing other than the knowledge that we will receive a letter some months from now asking us to go meet with the infertility people (=nurse, doctor, no clue). No blood tests, nothing, as she felt I had already had the needed bloodwork. She said that we might not be given any testing at all because we are not willing to do "treatments." I pointed out to her that this made no sense: We will actually be saving tax payers' money and I am not under any obligation at this point to tell anyone what we are or are not going to do. I guess she agreed, at least enough. Sooo... Basically nothing happened today, except that we are now "officially" infertile. That shocks me. I guess I never imagined going through something like this. Yet, I must do it, if not for babies, for closure. I don't think we can truly try to figure out whether we are called to adopt until we have some sort of closure. (To me, adoption is not 2nd best at all, but dh is not there, yet.) I think that even after all these years I am still in shock. I often have the strange feeling that I am supposed to wake up and realize dd is just a baby or toddler. Instead, here we are, 6 years later, without any way to turn back time.

For the first time I am wondering if we each have enough of a problem or something. I always assumed it was only me. At this point I am not so sure anymore.

It is almost night here and dd had a nice 6th birthday. (So she says, which makes me happy.) The morning was a bit emotional for me but later in the day I was able to just enjoy her. I am starting to make little plans about what we will do if it is just the three of us. At least we would get a dog she could play with and love on. She is very nurturing, so she definitely needs someone or something.

Meanwhile, "my" little baby boy is still in an orphanage because no one of the right religion has been willing to adopt him. How dd and I would fly there tomorrow if for some reason we could adopt him. Not that we would have the money, anyway. Dd prays for him,. often. I think of him every day. I hope that in someway we can make him feel loved, even though we will never even see him.

I soooo look forward to the time when I know what is right for our family... whether we will ever have another child through birth or adoption or whatever. I have lots more peace than I did some months ago. Now the pain mainly goes if I am not able to stop comparing myself to someone else. I would not trade my life for anyone elses, but I do wish mine did not go like this. Yet, I accept it, most of the time, and want to keep finding value in accepting it.

You know, this place is not just for those who are bitter. I am sometimes, sometimes not. Right now this is a safe haven from all the insensitive comments and actions. A safe place, which I so appreciare in this world where those comments can come at any time, from just about anyone, when I least expect them. Thank you for being there, everyone, as much I would hope you did not need to be...
 
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rachel, congrats, the graduates thread is super and wish you all the best

kparker, we are exact cycle buddies. I am also 11dpo today, though I think my temp is dropping and of course I am already trying to think about moving on to next cycle to lessen the blow.

(my waking time just suddenly changed to be 3.5 hours earlier--4.5 if you count daylight savings) I'm temping mainly just to confirm O so I am not keeping up anyway at this point in TWW. Not testing unless I'm a wee bit late...

I hope that fertility BS and garbage all works for you and you get to look back on this yuck crapola process with fond gratitude soon! Try not to take a 10dpo test too seriously.
 
#212 ·
CONGRATS RACHEL!!!!

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Congratulations Rachel! :)

That seems so odd to me. Did you have an exam or anything at all? Or did he just say it was normal without checking anything? (And since when is missing 2 periods normal? I mean, is it really normal? I've never heard that.)

AFM: I am exhausted with all of this. I've had my saline infusion sonohysterography and it was just ridiculously painful. My heart goes out to everyone having to go through procedures and fertility treatments, etc...cause seriously I just had no idea how awful it can be. I'm very glad that IVF and IUI and all of those are not in our future because right now I can't even imagine it. I just wish it wasn't so difficult. :( I feel like I need something to help me have a more positive attitude about all of this, because right now I just feel pretty awful.
No exam just sat and had a chat, he won't 'investigate' unless I've missed 3 periods. I am having streaky pink cm everynow and then when I wipe now so it looks like something is finally happening...I hope.
 
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You know, this place is not just for those who are bitter. I am sometimes, sometimes not. Right now this is a safe haven from all the insensitive comments and actions. A safe place, which I so appreciare in this world where those comments can come at any time, from just about anyone, when I least expect them. Thank you for being there, everyone, as much I would hope you did not need to be...
This is pretty much how I feel as well.
 
#215 ·
Congrats, Rachel!

Sorry LTP and Smiles that nothing much happened at the appointments today.

AFM - CD 4 here so v, v boring. Why does FF always seem to give me a free trial of the VIP user when I don't need it?
 
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CONGRATS RACHEL!!!!

No exam just sat and had a chat, he won't 'investigate' unless I've missed 3 periods. I am having streaky pink cm everynow and then when I wipe now so it looks like something is finally happening...I hope.
I hope something is finally happening for you. I do still think it's a bit weird that he didn't check anything at all, but maybe it's not.

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Congrats, Rachel!

Sorry LTP and Smiles that nothing much happened at the appointments today.

AFM - CD 4 here so v, v boring. Why does FF always seem to give me a free trial of the VIP user when I don't need it?
I just had to laugh at this because FF does the same thing to me all the time. You would think giving us the free trial when it's actually useful would make it more of a selling point.
 
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Congrats Rachel! I hope that luck extends to newly returning BSLs as well. Hope you have a happy, healthy 9 months!

Smilesarefree, I am so sorry for what must be an excruciating wait! Remind me-are long cycles typical for you? If not, is there a reason for extended cycles now? I can't imagine having to go on waiting! I can't believe that your doc won't induce a period
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Jennabella, I hate all of these invasive treatments too. As if being "infertile" isn't bad enough we have to be "violated" by some procedure seemingly every month. I'm so sorry for your pain!
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Kparker,
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Lesstraveledby, I hate that your appointment today was so unproductive. Why the wait for the "letter?"

MBA, I love your sense of humor and the way you retell stories. When you describe it I can just feel the tension that must have been in the room during that meeting! You are such an asset to this thread-I'm glad you are staying!
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Question to all: Does anyone else have a weird obsession about running to fertility friend soon after a BD session just to record said BD session??
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Another question to all: What are your thoughts/feelings/convictions about drinking during the TWW?? I'm currently 7 dpo and my hubby and I are in New Orleans and I would love to partake of a hurricane or a St. Patty's day treat on Thursday. I keep thinking but what if I'm pregnant? But then I think if I forgo the drinky drink for nothing I'll regret snubbing said drinky drink. What would YOU do?
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I'll probably abstain because I'm a chicken, but I am curious what your practices are.
 
#218 ·
Drinking: I don't go nuts drinking very often but when I do really drink, I drink hard. I have a glass or two of wine a week otherwise. When in a 2ww, I don't drink hard and I try to only have 1 glass of wine if I really need it. I don't think it will hurt but I'm paranoid.

Littlest birds: I have been having the most steady temps I have ever had this cycle, with one dip on 7dpo (trying not to read too much into that, either). http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/pupten

I know 10po is early. I'm pessimistic. But I think I'll go ahead and try again on 13 or 14 dpo before I get depressed for the weekend.
 
#219 ·
Rachel -
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Congrats!! SO happy for you!!!! We needed that around here!

I am hopeful for some others here this cycle, including myself, and you too kparker. Don't give up yet. I also had a bfn this morning at (i think) 11dpo. Well, put it this way, I'm between 11 and 14 dpo. If I'm at 14 dpo, then AF should have already showed, because I never go past 13dpo. If I'm 11dpo there is still hope. I decided I will test again on Thurs. if no AF by then. I really am going crazy this time around. Really, really going crazy. I have never "felt" pregnant like this before, and I'm scared to death I'm setting myself up for huge disappointment in the next day or two, during an already depressing/discouraging time at my house. Plus seeing the difficult IL's starting on Thurs night! I hope I know something before we see them because I would prefer to know I'm not pregnant then start AF while with them over the weekend and *then* have a breakdown. They don't know about us ttc. They actually seem to think we are happy with just one. They also were very, very unsupportive when we found out we were having DS. They have no idea about my fertility issues and I don't want them to know. I am losing hope a little bit for this cycle, but trying ot hold on to the shred of hope I still have.

smiles I wish I could say it surprised me that they sent you away, but it doesn't. As someone who's been dealing with long cycles forever, I can't tell you how many times different ob.gyns have done that to me. It seems like they usually say, "If you go more than 3 months, come back and we'll induce it." Which isn't really helpful when you really just want to know what is wrong!!!!! I hope that things are finally getting going for you though!! Hang in there.

LTB I too am curious about why the wait for the letter? I am sorry it didn't go how you were hoping. I think it's very unfair that they won't do testing unless you want treatments. That doesn't make sense to me. I am glad to hear though that you are feeling some peace about the entire situation, and i hope that does continue. Also, glad to hear your DD had a nice birthday.
 
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LTB I too am curious about why the wait for the letter? I am sorry it didn't go how you were hoping. I think it's very unfair that they won't do testing unless you want treatments. That doesn't make sense to me. I am glad to hear though that you are feeling some peace about the entire situation, and i hope that does continue. Also, glad to hear your DD had a nice birthday.
The wait for the letter is due to our medical system here in Northern Europe: We pay next to nothing but there is always a line to these sort of things. However, we do also have private clinics, meaning we would pay everything out of pocket. (The prices are not as crazy as in North America, though, due to no one having insurance that would cover this.) Since I am thinking we would only have a post coital or something to test dh and the test (whatever it is called) to check that my tubes are open, I might find out what those would cost at the private clinic. I doubt that the problem is my tubes, though... Maybe getting dh tested is the last piece of this puzzle before moving on... to what... maybe to nothing (if adoption does not seem possible), just acceptance.

Hoping for those testing soon!!!
 
#221 ·
I am attempting to multiquote, we'll see how that goes!

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I hope something is finally happening for you. I do still think it's a bit weird that he didn't check anything at all, but maybe it's not.

I just had to laugh at this because FF does the same thing to me all the time. You would think giving us the free trial when it's actually useful would make it more of a selling point.
Well I thought af was coming but it looks like that was a false alarm, I have never wanted her so bad in my life. As disheartening as TTCing can be and the monthly emotional roller coaster ride that comes with, at least you're trying and hoping, it sucks not be able to that right now. I honestly didn't think that he would do anything I was just hoping that he would.

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Congrats Rachel! I hope that luck extends to newly returning BSLs as well. Hope you have a happy, healthy 9 months!

Smilesarefree, I am so sorry for what must be an excruciating wait! Remind me-are long cycles typical for you? If not, is there a reason for extended cycles now? I can't imagine having to go on waiting! I can't believe that your doc won't induce a period
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Jennabella, I hate all of these invasive treatments too. As if being "infertile" isn't bad enough we have to be "violated" by some procedure seemingly every month. I'm so sorry for your pain!
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Kparker,
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Lesstraveledby, I hate that your appointment today was so unproductive. Why the wait for the "letter?"

MBA, I love your sense of humor and the way you retell stories. When you describe it I can just feel the tension that must have been in the room during that meeting! You are such an asset to this thread-I'm glad you are staying!
joy.gif


Question to all: Does anyone else have a weird obsession about running to fertility friend soon after a BD session just to record said BD session??
shrug.gif


Another question to all: What are your thoughts/feelings/convictions about drinking during the TWW?? I'm currently 7 dpo and my hubby and I are in New Orleans and I would love to partake of a hurricane or a St. Patty's day treat on Thursday. I keep thinking but what if I'm pregnant? But then I think if I forgo the drinky drink for nothing I'll regret snubbing said drinky drink. What would YOU do?
headscratch.gif
I'll probably abstain because I'm a chicken, but I am curious what your practices are.
No long cycles are not the norm for me, I average a 26 day cycle, I can't think of anything that happened to make me o late or not at all. I'm trying too not think about it - I think that maybe my obsessing over it it making it later and later!!

I do have the occasional drink during the TWW, my dh and I usually have a beer or 2 or glass of wine Friday's after work, nothing too crazy, in the tww I usually do a test every Friday am just to be sure because I am paranoid.

Lilmom, Kparker, Littlestbirds - fingers crossed

Lavatea - Yes, 4 dpo is terrible boring - I've been known to test at 5/6 dpo out of sheer boredom!!
 
#222 ·
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The wait for the letter is due to our medical system here in Northern Europe: We pay next to nothing but there is always a line to these sort of things. However, we do also have private clinics, meaning we would pay everything out of pocket. (The prices are not as crazy as in North America, though, due to no one having insurance that would cover this.) Since I am thinking we would only have a post coital or something to test dh and the test (whatever it is called) to check that my tubes are open, I might find out what those would cost at the private clinic. I doubt that the problem is my tubes, though... Maybe getting dh tested is the last piece of this puzzle before moving on... to what... maybe to nothing (if adoption does not seem possible), just acceptance.

Hoping for those testing soon!!!
Maybe this is just my ignorance speaking, but it sounds nice to have the choice between waiting for free or next to nothing or paying at a private clinic. I have insurance that covers some diagnostics, but no treatment, ultrasounds or drugs are covered (if they are labeled specifically for infertility-I've gotten away with Femara since it's a breast cancer drug). I'm sure there are pros and cons to both medical systems though. I'm with you-I'd have to find out the cost of the private clinic. Peace of mind is worth a little too.

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Drinking: I don't go nuts drinking very often but when I do really drink, I drink hard. I have a glass or two of wine a week otherwise. When in a 2ww, I don't drink hard and I try to only have 1 glass of wine if I really need it. I don't think it will hurt but I'm paranoid.

Littlest birds: I have been having the most steady temps I have ever had this cycle, with one dip on 7dpo (trying not to read too much into that, either). http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/pupten

I know 10po is early. I'm pessimistic. But I think I'll go ahead and try again on 13 or 14 dpo before I get depressed for the weekend.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on drinking! It's hard for me not to over-obsess sometimes. Your chart looks great!!
 
#223 ·
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Well I thought af was coming but it looks like that was a false alarm, I have never wanted her so bad in my life. As disheartening as TTCing can be and the monthly emotional roller coaster ride that comes with, at least you're trying and hoping, it sucks not be able to that right now. I honestly didn't think that he would do anything I was just hoping that he would.

No long cycles are not the norm for me, I average a 26 day cycle, I can't think of anything that happened to make me o late or not at all. I'm trying too not think about it - I think that maybe my obsessing over it it making it later and later!!

I do have the occasional drink during the TWW, my dh and I usually have a beer or 2 or glass of wine Friday's after work, nothing too crazy, in the tww I usually do a test every Friday am just to be sure because I am paranoid.
I hope you get some af action soon. I know you are ready to try again!
 
#224 ·
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Maybe this is just my ignorance speaking, but it sounds nice to have the choice between waiting for free or next to nothing or paying at a private clinic. I have insurance that covers some diagnostics, but no treatment, ultrasounds or drugs are covered (if they are labeled specifically for infertility-I've gotten away with Femara since it's a breast cancer drug). I'm sure there are pros and cons to both medical systems though. I'm with you-I'd have to find out the cost of the private clinic. Peace of mind is worth a little too.
Yes... While it won't be fun if the wait is very long, I so prefer this system. As a matter of fact, the whole health insurance thing is among the biggest reasons we prefer living in Europe. I gave birth in the States and it took many (stressful) months until everything was clear with health insurance and the hospital, with me being the person in the middle, as neither would deal directly with the other.
 
#225 ·
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Lavatea - Yes, 4 dpo is terrible boring - I've been known to test at 5/6 dpo out of sheer boredom!!
I wish I was 4 dpo even. I was just CD 4, lol. CD 5 now. (Still boring.)
 
#226 ·
I am having a rough night... Dh made some comment about how terrible it must be for the infertile men... Really????? What is it supposed to be like for me (or any woman) who seems infertile. In our case we don't know what is causing it. Maybe it is not me, after all... For the first time I am hoping they would find something in both of us or in him, simply because I think that would make him decide on adoption (yes or no, just something) a whole lot faster.

Anyway.... I am still trying to make sure we get everything covered, as the doctors won't necessarily be of much help.

I am hoping you could help me with something: What things can change in a male to make him infertile after having had a child? (And which male issues should i not need to suspect?) I can find tons about male factor, but nothing to answer the question which of those things can appear all of a sudden. Thanks for any info!
 
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