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(((hugs))) Waturmama, i hope it turns out ok after all.

 

Gumblossom, may your ultrasound show a healthy baby. Im so glad i got that early ultrasound myself, it has put my mind at ease, though i am still cautious. I have my fingers crossed for you. And the acupuncture sounds like a great idea.
 

Sorry, i got something mixed up. Saorise,  thats great news about the ultrasound!

 

EWCM Litmama? Fantastic!!! I know how you feel.  This is all sounding so promising, I agree with your husband that dropping the dhea might have something to do with it.   
 
 
 
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WaturMama...   Sending hugs!!!


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Waturmama, hugs and good wishes. hug.gif


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Oh Waturmama, (((HUGS))) and good wishes. You and I are walking a very similar path it seems. I've had at least 4 chemicals, very similar to yours in the last year, not to mention the losses this  January and last March at 8-9 weeks. The chemicals were all the same,  faint ++s and that turn negative and what would have been just AF if I hadn't tested showing up between 2-6 days late.  The only thing I would notice is every time, I would end up finding a piece of gray tissue on my pad a few days into AF. 

 

Last month was actually the first month without a  +++ on a test in quite a few months which of course was my last hope for the pre-45 ++. My birthday was last week. Now I only have 3 months left to conceive so I can deliver with a full term healthy baby, before I turn 46. I have sort of figured I'll give it a little bit of effort these next few months, and after that I'm just going to let it go. We won't TTA or anything, but no more OPKS, no more fertilty aids what have ya.

 

It seems I still get pregnant very easily, but something has changed, whether it's egg quality or some other internal fertility mechanism that has gone awry, I don't know.

 

Anyways, I'm sorry. I really hope you get a sticky bean soon. ((((HUGS))

 

OH and as for my present cycle, I ovulated yesterday so begins another TWW.

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Waturmama I am sorry to hear this. I'm hoping for a darker test soon.

 

Have you considered having testing for recurrent miscarriage? I know we are up against it with our older eggs, but sometimes something else can be at play, and sometimes the solution is simple. I know of several ladies who had 2, 3 or 4 babies, then had recurrent miscarriage. They were treated and were able to hold a pregnancy. I'm hoping you won't even have to think about this and your little bean sticks tight.

 

Contactmaya - yes I hope the scan will show a healthy baby. It is making itself a bit more obvious - I am having stronger symptoms - and I have the worst kind of bloating - I look like I'm 20 weeks. How will I not tell anyone when I look suddenly pregnant? I'm wearing a lot of loose fitting clothing, but can't wait to wear something that shows off the bump, when it is a real bump, rather than just a bunch of hot air! I've started sleeping a bit better and not feeling so anxious. And the universe has been very good to me - my maternity leave is up in Juily and I have to go back to teaching - I was dreading it - worrying about having the energy to teach, plan and mark as well as look after my family. Well I spoke to my deputy principal and he offered me a day a week (instead of 4!) doing specialist tutoring - no prep or marking! No stress, one on one! It's exactly what I need. Then out of the blue someone called to ask me to do private tutoring too. So I'm feeling good about that.

 

I'm wondering where Karalina might be? We haven't heard from her in a while. I hope all is well.

 

And for everyone else - fingers crossed for more bfps!


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Well, I got a BFP at 10dpo and 12dpo. bigeyes.gif

 

I knew this was coming when I sat up in bed last week and started dry heaving. I only poas because I'm neurotic and blow through many tests with each cycle anyway. I was SHOCKED to see a line. Took another test. Yep. Took a digital. Yep. Waited two days and pretended that nothing had happened. Took another test. Yep.

 

Happy, yes, but TERRIFIED. Utterly, completely terrified. My last BFP ended in mc last November. We haven't had any luck since. I want this so bad, I'm afraid to admit how bad I want it.

 

I would be utterly convinced that this was a fluke and would be anticipating another mc, if I weren't so ill. Dare I be hopeful?

 

I'm thinking of asking for a beta next week, but not sure. Had one with my son and it was enormously comforting. Did not have one with the last pg, the one that didn't end well.

 

I wanted to wait to post about this, but I am having so much fear (plus my old nemesis, cramps) that I felt like I needed the support. We are not telling ANYONE irl, for a long, long time.


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Congratulations Alittlesandy !

 

I understand how worrying this time can be. I have been quite anxious. But your sickness is a great sign, and just because you had one mc it doesn't follow that you will have another. Do whatever it takes to gain reassurance. If that means having a beta drawn, then you should do that. I found having a scan to look forward to (on Weds), having acupuncture(which has really calmed me down) and just repeating the mantra "today I am pregnant" has really helped.

 

I also had a lot of cramping in the early weeks, but it has settled now. I am 7 weeks now. Just hoping I am still pregnant this time next week. It really is hard on us ladies who have had previous miscarriages. would an early scan (say at 6 weeks) help?

 

My sickness and sore boobs has been really variable this time, which has had me nervous, but the last few days it has picked up, so I'm feeling a bit better about it.

 

Hang in there! For today, You ARE Pregnant!


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Waturamama I am so sorry.

 

Congratulations ALittleSandy, I'm not sure how far along you are. But I had very bad cramping early on in this pregnancy. I was convinced AF was arriving but I think little one was just burrowing in.

 

Be Hopeful.

 

I can understand the fear. I'm feeling quite worried as I seem to have developed chronic food aversions to all my usual foods which I don't think is a good sign. But will just bury my head in the sand and ignore the bad feelings. No advice on letting go of the fear. Mostly I tend to actually forget I'm pregnant which is one way to ease the fear.

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Congratulations alittlesandy!!! joy.gifjoy.gifjoy.gifI agree, all those symptoms are a very good sign, and if you think a beta test will help you relax, go for it! Pregnancy after m/c really isn't the same as before, but I hope you find your way with it and lots of reassuring things happen along the way.

 

So, I unfortunately definitely lost this pregnancy. I had heavy bleeding yesterday and my symptoms are pretty much gone. Yesterday was a busy day for our family and I pushed myself when I really needed to rest, so now I feel sick, too. Bleah. I do ultimately trust this whole process, but today feel sad. Making a new fertility chart was depressing. I so look forward to the day when I can be done with that. And I sure loved that Feb. EDD. I also have faith I'll like things about the next EDD, but I look forward to the day when I can just enjoy a new BIRTHday in our family. Kristin, sorry to make all this work for you, and I also thank you. I sure enjoyed seeing that date on our list.

 

I started bleeding at 20 dpo. The same thing happened in May of 2009. My RE considered that one a chemical pregnancy, so I guess this one is too, but emotionally it feels different than the 14 dpo chemical pregnancies. I pass that 18 dpo mark, and I start to believe.

 

beachlover, that is very interesting about our similar patterns. All of my dh and my tests come out normal, and my miscarriages where there have been u/s have all shown abnormal growth, so I am pretty convinced our issues are chromosomal. From what I have heard the best thing for those issues is TCM, which I've been doing for 2 years now. Do you know of anything else? Before all this we got pg with ds the first month we tried when I was 37. Remind me how many children do you have and did you get pg with them easily, too?


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Have you considered having testing for recurrent miscarriage? I know we are up against it with our older eggs, but sometimes something else can be at play, and sometimes the solution is simple. I know of several ladies who had 2, 3 or 4 babies, then had recurrent miscarriage. They were treated and were able to hold a pregnancy. I'm hoping you won't even have to think about this and your little bean sticks tight.

 

I've talked to two doctors about that in recent months--an RE and an ob/gyn. They both didn't think it was likely to show anything given I'd gotten pg so easily the first time and given my age. So I'm interested in your story. Are those women our age? Do you know what they were treated for?


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I'm so sorry, WaturMama hug.gif

 

Gumblossom, best of luck with your scan! I'll be thinking of you on Wednesday.

 

Thank you to everyone for the good wishes! I think I will call tomorrow about a beta.


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Congrats alittlesandy! Happy and healthy next 9 months for you!

 

I'm so sorry again Waturmama- remind me what supplements you are taking?

 

Gumblossom- I had some very slight crampy feelings too at start of thsi pregnancy- kept feeling like a strong period was coming on. I hope your scan goes well!

 

I am actually going to get a scan tomorrow cause I demanded one from midwife LOL- I'm not keen on loads of scans and had the early nuchal one and also one for the amnio but I want to double check that baby is not posterior so tomorrow I will find out for sure since he stays in same position all the time and just moves his arms/legs.

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Waturmama, I don't know these women personally - it has always been through online groups.

 

One lady I know was in our age group and had several miscarriages. It was found that she had the blood clotting problem and it was easily remedied with blood thinners.

 

Another discovered she had an autoimmune problem that she had no idea about. Once that was under control, she was able to conceive and carry to term. She was in her thirties.

 

Another I know had month after month of chemical pregnancies. She was told it was age related (also in her 40's) - that her body was desperately trying to get pregnant. She didn't have any treatment, but for some reason stopped conceiving so easily and had a longer break from ttc (about 6 months maybe), then conceived her take home baby. I believe she had TCM in that period.

 

I hope that helps. It must be heartbreaking to experience loss the way you have. You really have a strong spirit to keep on ttc. (((HUGS)))

 

Greenmama, did you have the amnio because of your nuchal scan result? I'm thinking a bit about it lately, not sure what I'll do, but will not think too much. Will wait for nuchal results before making a decision.

 

 

 


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I didn't have it due to nuchal screen because  my nuchal and other bloodwork came back fine. I went for an 18 week anomoly scan and they found a choroid plexus cyst on the baby so I decided to get the amnio and all was fine- plexus cysts I researched go away by 32 weeks mostly and they are nothing to worry about if no other anomolies are seen. With the first amnio I had at age 37 I did it because I was paranoid and wanted to be sure baby was okay and all. Baby was fine etc;

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I just had my midwife appt. 21wks

no results from my big u/s yet but I was given a 1:20,000 chance of downs....I wonder now if she made a mistake-seems like a really big #, my age (42) gives me 1:60-quite the jump!

hb was 140, my bp was 118/70 YIPEE

still showing the first level on the glucose pee test :(

so far everything is still looking good for a homebirth *fingers crossed*

Just like you guys I still feel a little hesitant to wallow in baby pg bliss, by now I am feeling movement -great screening-bhah so why the hesitation??????

 

 

 


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Waturmama- I have so been wanting to share this journey with you-so I will keep coming back-to keep you awash in big belly vibes...every time I think of you or see your name I will imagine you with a huge belly undulating with the kicks, rolls and punches of your baby-in-waiting


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WaturMama, I'm so, so sorry. I know this must feel like such a blow. You are so strong and inspiring... how is your spirit? I hope you and your family are taking good care of you. Sending love and hugs and healing thoughts your way ((( hugs ))).

 

The recurrent m/c testing others are referring to... I had that done after a string of chemicals more than a year ago. They looked for the clotting problem, the immunological problem and some other things. They didn't find anything wrong, but it was reassuring for me to be able to rule those things out and know that for me it was egg quality, so I could work on that. Do you think that kind of testing might help you, too?


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Thank you so much for all your thoughts, everyone. Saoirse, your beautiful blessing got me all teary. It's really nice knowing you all are sending support.

 

I think my spirit is good. I still feel the positive of how easily I have gotten pregnant recently and deep down have faith that all is well, and somehow I'll have another baby at some time and be glad for everything because that baby will be just the right one. But today I am sad, too, if that makes sense. It does to me. Also my ds is graduating from Kindergarten this week, so my mama heart feels a little raw.

 

Thanks for typing all that out for me, Gumblossom and for asking Litmama. I've talked to 2 doctors about taking those tests, but they both thought they weren't necessary because I got pg with ds so easily and had an easy pg. Sometimes I wonder if that was the anomaly. The 2nd doctor thought it was worth doing a progesterone test, which I will do (though I'm doubtful that is the issue, since my luteal phases are just fine). I'm also going to talk to a third doctor this summer. An RE is opening a new office nearby and offering free consultations to former patients of the person who was previously in the office (my former RE), so I'm thinking, why not? After that, I guess I could ask to do the tests anyway, but I think that free consultation and the progesterone test are my next steps. Also I'll continue to do TCM.

 

Greenmama66, supplements I'm taking are:

 

nettle/red raspberry leaf/oatstraw infustion

Rainbow Lite prenatal vitamins (1/3/ dose when not pregnant, 1/2 dose when I am--I have a good diet that gets me lots of vitamins)

fish oil

raw honey

baby aspirin when I'm pregnant

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Saoirse, great news about those numbers! (Except the glucose one, sounds like, but I don't know what that means--if it isn't stopping you from having a homebirth I'm guessing/hoping it isn't too bad.) My friend IRL, M0xxie here, who had her baby at 43 in January got super numbers for Down's syndrome like that too. Her baby is fabulously healthy and wonderful


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just stopped by to announce the birth of our beautiful boy, eliot quinn (we call him quinn), born at home unassisted on june 8, 2011. we are so blessed and overjoyed! love.gif

 

many blessings and good vibes to you all.

 


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dear waturmama, i just realized you lost your baby. i am so very sorry, and i'm sending you healing love and light. many hugs...hug2.gif


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Oh, Karen/BHappy that is such wonderful news. He is so beautiful. I can't get the smile of wonder at him off my face. I remember your story. He is here!!!!! (Now I'm happyteary.) love.giflove.giflove.giflove.gif

 

Did you plan an UC or was that more his plan?

 

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Now I see this note, too, thank you. I'll soak that new mama love, light, and hugs in.


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I'm heading in to the lab for my beta today. I don't know if I'll get the results back today or not, but I'll keep you posted.


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Bhappy, congratulations!!!! Its such a beautiful name!!  Unassisted, wow. I chickened out of unassisted with the birth  of my now 3yo. I felt so lonely, and just wanted to chat away. I didnt know i would feel so chatty and need company so much during labor.  Many blessings to you and your family. May you enjoy your baby moon.

 

 

Alittlesandy, congratulations on your bfp!!!!! I hope your betas are good.

 

Gumblossom, im thinking of you, and hoping the best for you ultrasound. May you find reassurance.

 

Saorise, congratulations on the positive ultrasound.

 

I have my first prenatal visit tomorrow.

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BHappy - congratulations - he is beautiful! And a UC birth - wow, I'm in awe of you.

 

I woke at 4.30 am today, and couldn't sleep again for thinking about the ultrasound. My appointment isn't until 3.30, so I feel a long day coming on!At least when I woke I felt nauseous, so I'm feeling confident my little bean will have a heartbeat. I'll just have to keep busy today.

 

Waturmama, I was reading a pregnancy magazine yesterday and noticed a story about a woman who had had a baby, then had recurrent miscarriages. She had a few tests and it turned out that she had an immunological issue which was similar to Lupus (she had no symptoms). The doctors told her it may have been caused by a virus after she'd had her last baby. When she got pregnant again she had to have daily injections(they didn't say of what) and her baby was born fine and at term. It sounds like you have your own plan, but I thought you might like to hear that story.

 

Alittlesandy - Looking forward to hearing your Beta results.I hope they don't leave you waiting too long.

 

I'll pop in tonight to let you know how the ultrasound goes.


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Alittlesandy - Looking forward to hearing your Beta results.I hope they don't leave you waiting too long.

 

I'll pop in tonight to let you know how the ultrasound goes.


Thank you Gumblossom! Haven't heard anything yet. Trying to keep my mind off it.

 

Excited to hear about your ultrasound!!!


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I'm back...and all is well. Baby measuring at 7 weeks 4 days (my calculations say 7+5) and the heartbeat was 157.

It is reassuring, and I keep telling myself that it means my chances of a mc are lowered, but I was 8 weeks with a healthy heartbeat last time, and that didn't go well.

However, I do feel better this time round and I'm going to enjoy the good news. There was a huge rainbow in the sky on the entire 20 minute drive home. Lovely! I smiled a lot.


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I'm back...and all is well. Baby measuring at 7 weeks 4 days (my calculations say 7+5) and the heartbeat was 157.

It is reassuring, and I keep telling myself that it means my chances of a mc are lowered, but I was 8 weeks with a healthy heartbeat last time, and that didn't go well.

However, I do feel better this time round and I'm going to enjoy the good news. There was a huge rainbow in the sky on the entire 20 minute drive home. Lovely! I smiled a lot.


Hooray! joy.gif That's wonderful news Gumblossom!

 

Thinking sticky bean thoughts for both of us!

 

ETA: My beta was 105 at 14dpo, which feels kind of low to me, but my doctor said it was fine. The important beta is the next one tomorrow, which will show whether or not the number is going up.


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Yay good news, Gumblossom! And I love the rainbow1284.gif story! Especially when you have that rainbow1284.gif sitting there in your signature to describe your baby--really amazing.


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