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Congrats Miss Sonja!

 

My little guy turns 8 months old on Wednesday. Wow, that went fast. He's HUGE -- wears only 24-month-old clothes, off the charts in height and weight.  And very motivated: rolled over at 8 weeks and has been pulling himself up to stand and cruise for about a month now.  Crawls like a speed demon (though his belly is still not off the floor!). If he's not walking by the time he's 12 months I'll eat my hat.  (My first didn't walk until 15 or 16 months!)  For you newbies here, I turned 45 in August, was 44 when he was born. Natural conception (see my previous posts for info), easy pregnancy.

 

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Hi fuller!  I remember you!  Wow, 8 months already?  Thanks for posting again to remind us of this and to give us hope. I really, really need to hear these kinds of stories... 


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Hi- just popping in to this thread and wondering if anyone here conceived and had their first when they were 40+. I guess I'm looking for a little encouragement and was curious if anyone had some positive and uplifting stories to share. I'll be 42 soon and have never conceived. Been with my partner for 13 years and haven't used bc for the last 7. We've both had the standard tests & everything came back within "normal" range. Just trying to see if I'm being realistic or if I'm deluding myself. We never proceeded with any medical interventions, so I'm wondering if now at my age that route is my only recourse. Sorry to hijack! Good luck to all!

Hi Karina!

I am 43 and TTC my first via IUI.  This month will be my second attempt.  I personally have received verrrry negative opinions from the fertility doctor I spoke with as well as the midwife.  (Near me, a midwife's office does IUIs)  The midwife wouldn't even put my chances at conceiving a child at 1 per cent!  But statistics aren't everything.  I have a high school friend who just naturally conceived her first child (age 42).  Like me, she was single her whole life and never TTC before. 

For this cycle I am using Clomid.  I figured if I can produce 2 or more eggs in a cycle then maybe one will be of good quality and result in a BFP.  Time will tell.

Also, some clinics that do IUIs and ICIs won't perform them on women above a certain age, sometimes 44 or 45.  I know that some health insurers in my state don't provide coverage for fertility expenses for women age 44 or older.

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Welcomed a baby boy on nov 3, born at home after an hour of labor. 42 weeks!
Thanks for all the support here back in the spring when things felt so tentative. I turned 45 last month...golly!

Congrats miss_sonja!  45 - you are an inspiration!

 

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congratulations miss sonja!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! only of hour of labor? im amazed

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Karabooboo,

Did you have a fertility doctor prescribe the clomid? I am really trying to find out if it is worth a try, but not wanting to see a fertility specialist. I am seeing my GP (doctor) today, and thought I would discuss it with her, but need some arguments before I go in. I keep reading on the net that clomid isn't good for over 40, so I'd love to know how your specialist feels about it.

 

Did you have fertility tests done before taking the drug? I'm sorry if you already told us on the thread, I haven't had a chance to read back.

 

I'm just not sure if clomid will help me with fsh of 12 and amh of next to nothing (apparently). I'm a firm believer in alternative therapies and have had acupuncture for years,taken supplements etc, and now I'm taking a course of DHEA again.

 

I just want to know I have done everything I can (without ivf or donor eggs - I would do it, but my dh won't)to have this last little baby.

 

Although I'd like to take a low key approach to ttc,and am not obsessed with it all, I still can't shake this feeling that I am meant to have one more child. Perhaps the child will come some other way, but I still feel the desire to ttc because I think the baby wants to join us.

 

I might have mentioned this before, but each time I conceived in my 40's since my DS birth when I was 41, it has happened after a big family get together(my husband's family). I conceived after my DH's 50th, then again after my niece's 21st party, then again after my SIL's 50th.It's uncanny. I don't know what the common factor is (coincidence perhapswinky.gif!). I wonder if it is because my DH and I are relaxed? Or because our little spirit baby wants to be a part of this  extended family? Now, if I could just get them all together again - but it looks like we are having Christmas apart, and don't know of any big family get-togethers again for some time.

 

I would also love to hear of anyone else's ideas or experiences with clomid.
 


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Hi everyone,


I'm very disappointed about my doctor. I didn't get to see her today.

 

It is so hard to get an appointment with her, I usually have to book 3 or 4 weeks in advance. I haven't been able to see her due to her holidays, mine,her being called away etc etc, so today I thought I'd finally get the  pap smear over with and finally get to speak to her about progesterone,clomid etc. But she was called away to the hospital and I didn't get to see her and I bet she was delivering a baby. Boy,I wish it was me having a baby that had her called away for. greensad.gif

 

At least I got a positive opk and ovulation pain, so we BD last night.Hopefully it's the big juicy egg I've been waiting so patiently for,and next time I see my doctor,I'll already be pregnant.joy.gif
 


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Gumblossom, that is really disappointing that you didn't get in to see your doctor!  I can understand the 'wishing it was me' feeling-- I have a friend who just announced her pregnancy, baby #2, and I feel that way upon hearing her news.   I mean, I've already got baby #2, but I want that third baby so badly.  There is this really strong desire to have one more, and I felt it soon after DD was born.  Not that it took away from my love and joy in having her, it's just that the feelings I have for her are so strong and wonderful it struck me how much I love being a mother and that there is this feeling like another baby is meant for us. The other day, I found myself thinking about when I would wait to announce baby #3-- the aforementioned friend had waited 6 months.  I even find myself keeping all my baby clothes.  DH is not as enthusiastic, though he is okay with the idea.  I know that he is only 'okay' with it right now, because we've been through a lot with this pregnancy (complications with previa, fearing the c/s, antenatal anxiety and depression as a result of that) and it took our son about 4 months to settle in and adjust to not being the star of the show (there is only 22 months apart).  It's been an exhausting few months, but things have settled down a lot (my little guy is rather spirited)-- DD is an absolute happy and mellow baby-- one of those 'easy' babies I only used to read about, ha ha.  Anyway, if I'm blessed with another healthy pregnancy, I know he'd be happy.  Worried, but happy. It was so hard on him seeing me go through what I did this last time. 

 

About Clomid... Two weeks before I turned 40, I conceived DS on Clomid, with an IUI-- second try.  We had done a fertility workup beforehand, and at that time my FSH level was 11. 3 months before turning 42, I conceived DD. We had another workup done shortly before then, because we were going to do IVF. My FSH was 6. I actually got my bfp while I was on a suppression drug. In recent weeks we've gone back to see our RE, to have a chat about trying for one more.  A couple of things really stand out for me: One is that she told me that many women, upon nearing perimenopause, have a surge in fertility as nature's way of giving it another kick at the can type-of-thing. And the other is that in my case, she recommends the Clomid/IUI because it will give me a good shot at another pregnancy-- without the toll on my body from IVF drugs, and all the expense.  Especially since the IVF success rates for women in my age bracket go down so much.  Which is good news/bad news, I feel.  It bothers me that I may not even be a good candidate at this point for IVF with my own eggs-- at least on paper.  But then, if she thinks there is a good chance on the Clomid/IUI, I will take it.  I have such a hard time with side effects on the Clomid...ugh. But, if it improves my chances... I asked about Femara instead (it seems to be used a lot in the States, and in Canada's city of Montreal), and while she was willing to prescribe that for me instead, she said it wasn't advised-- Clomid has been around 50 or 60 years, and it does something to help the outer shell of the egg be more receptive to the sperm (can't remember all the terminology she used).  Also, Femara is being used off-label for fertility purposes, and with the Clomid I can take it if I'm breastfeeding about twice a day, if I should so choose. With my RE, I never did have any monitoring with the Clomid-- I just took the pills (100 mg) 5 nights in a row, starting on CD3, and used OPKs to determine when I was about to ovulate, then went in for a single IUI.  I asked about monitoring with u/s, double IUIs, and a few more things.  Glad I got more information about it, so I can go into it feeling as reassured as possible.  But hopefully, I won't need to.  :)  Anyway, if you have any questions, just ask.

 

Do you have another appointment booked with your doctor?


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Wow, lots of activity on this thread!

Great to hear from you tenzinsmama! Thinking about #3 already!? Good on ya wink1.gif

I've also read that clomid can cause more harm than good over 40 but I still don't really understand why. My RE said the only way it might help is that it might produce more folilicles and increase my chanceof catching a good one. He didn't suggest I try it though.

I turn 42 in December....I never thought in a million years that I wouldn't have had a second child by now. I'm still very, very upset with it and I wish things were different. Sometimes I think how easy it could be with just one but both my DP and I never wanted an only child. A friend was telling a story the other day and she mentioned a kid and said something along the lines of "well, you know, she is an oly child after all" in the context of bad behavior. It hurt me which is silly.

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Karabooboo,

Did you have a fertility doctor prescribe the clomid? I am really trying to find out if it is worth a try, but not wanting to see a fertility specialist. I am seeing my GP (doctor) today, and thought I would discuss it with her, but need some arguments before I go in. I keep reading on the net that clomid isn't good for over 40, so I'd love to know how your specialist feels about it.

 

Did you have fertility tests done before taking the drug? I'm sorry if you already told us on the thread, I haven't had a chance to read back.

 

I'm just not sure if clomid will help me with fsh of 12 and amh of next to nothing (apparently). I'm a firm believer in alternative therapies and have had acupuncture for years,taken supplements etc, and now I'm taking a course of DHEA again.

 

I just want to know I have done everything I can (without ivf or donor eggs - I would do it, but my dh won't)to have this last little baby.

 

Although I'd like to take a low key approach to ttc,and am not obsessed with it all, I still can't shake this feeling that I am meant to have one more child. Perhaps the child will come some other way, but I still feel the desire to ttc because I think the baby wants to join us.

 

I might have mentioned this before, but each time I conceived in my 40's since my DS birth when I was 41, it has happened after a big family get together(my husband's family). I conceived after my DH's 50th, then again after my niece's 21st party, then again after my SIL's 50th.It's uncanny. I don't know what the common factor is (coincidence perhapswinky.gif!). I wonder if it is because my DH and I are relaxed? Or because our little spirit baby wants to be a part of this  extended family? Now, if I could just get them all together again - but it looks like we are having Christmas apart, and don't know of any big family get-togethers again for some time.

 

I would also love to hear of anyone else's ideas or experiences with clomid.
 

 

 

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Karabooboo,

Did you have a fertility doctor prescribe the clomid? I am really trying to find out if it is worth a try, but not wanting to see a fertility specialist. I am seeing my GP (doctor) today, and thought I would discuss it with her, but need some arguments before I go in. I keep reading on the net that clomid isn't good for over 40, so I'd love to know how your specialist feels about it.

 

Did you have fertility tests done before taking the drug? I'm sorry if you already told us on the thread, I haven't had a chance to read back.

 

I'm just not sure if clomid will help me with fsh of 12 and amh of next to nothing (apparently). I'm a firm believer in alternative therapies and have had acupuncture for years,taken supplements etc, and now I'm taking a course of DHEA again.

 

I just want to know I have done everything I can (without ivf or donor eggs - I would do it, but my dh won't)to have this last little baby.

 

Although I'd like to take a low key approach to ttc,and am not obsessed with it all, I still can't shake this feeling that I am meant to have one more child. Perhaps the child will come some other way, but I still feel the desire to ttc because I think the baby wants to join us.

 

I might have mentioned this before, but each time I conceived in my 40's since my DS birth when I was 41, it has happened after a big family get together(my husband's family). I conceived after my DH's 50th, then again after my niece's 21st party, then again after my SIL's 50th.It's uncanny. I don't know what the common factor is (coincidence perhapswinky.gif!). I wonder if it is because my DH and I are relaxed? Or because our little spirit baby wants to be a part of this  extended family? Now, if I could just get them all together again - but it looks like we are having Christmas apart, and don't know of any big family get-togethers again for some time.

 

I would also love to hear of anyone else's ideas or experiences with clomid.
 

 

Hi Gumblossom!

 

Since my health insurance doesn't cover any of this, I use a midwives' office for IUIs.  It was a midwife there that I asked about the Clomid and she prescribed it for me.  I know - I didn't exactly ask the details on what doctor there, if any, was actually prescribing it!  But I guess after just having been artificially inseminated (such an odd day in my life!), the detail escaped my mind!  I am new to Clomid but it increases your likelihood of producing more than one egg, which is a good thing at my age.  If you are serious about this journey then I would strongly suggest that you get with a doctor who can see you quickly so that you are not wasting months waiting.  At 43 I know I need to try to make this happen in the upcoming half-year if I have any chance at all.  How ironic, at 43 I fear being too old to ever conceive YET I got carded tonight when I bought a bottle of wine.

 

Here's a good tip for Clomid users:  The generic is available at Wal-Mart for just $4!!  I didn't know and I paid $37 at CVS.

 

P.S. Using 50 mg of Clomid and have noticed no side effects at all!


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It's very encouraging reading the responses. To echo a previous poster, it gives you a semblance of hope. I currently am not using any medical intervention & in all likelihood won't. So, at this point, it's natural conception and dealing with whatever occurs. Just curious if anyone had ever attended a Resolve group for support? I asked this question several years ago, but thought I'd ask again since there seems a new group of posters. If so, did anyone find it useful & learn new strategies & coping mechanisms? I guess I am just starting to feel that I need to prepare & face the possibilty of not becoming a parent, as much as it pains me to admit. Although, I still have hope, I find myself dealing with some dark periods (I'm sure that's not a conducive state to be in for conception) & need to take care of my mental health aside from working on my physical health. Sorry to vent & be a downer. Congrats to all who shared their positive experiences. They are very uplifting & inspirational. I'll be searching the thread for more smile.gif
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Hi Karina!

I am 43 and TTC my first via IUI.  This month will be my second attempt.  I personally have received verrrry negative opinions from the fertility doctor I spoke with as well as the midwife.  (Near me, a midwife's office does IUIs)  The midwife wouldn't even put my chances at conceiving a child at 1 per cent!  But statistics aren't everything.  I have a high school friend who just naturally conceived her first child (age 42).  Like me, she was single her whole life and never TTC before. 

For this cycle I am using Clomid.  I figured if I can produce 2 or more eggs in a cycle then maybe one will be of good quality and result in a BFP.  Time will tell.

Also, some clinics that do IUIs and ICIs won't perform them on women above a certain age, sometimes 44 or 45.  I know that some health insurers in my state don't provide coverage for fertility expenses for women age 44 or older.

Best of luck to you!

karabooboo, I hear what you are saying... My RE talked with me about the statistics, and it doesn't seem very promising, but my midwife didn't even mention stats.  I'm hopeful, regardless of the stats at this point.  I know someone in my social circle who conceived her first baby naturally at age 44.  And I had also met a woman who was 43 or 44 who had gotten her bfp with IUI (not sure if she was on Clomid)-- she had tried IVF at the fertility clinic in our city, and didn't have sucess... then she went to a clinic in Mexico for IVF (she used a clinic there, as she was down there regularly for her work), but was unsucessful... then went back to our fertility clinic-- and then got that bfp with the IUI.

 

carmen, that comment would hurt me, too, to hear a comment like that.  I'm sorry it hasn't yet happened for you to have that second little one added to your family. I know from your previous posts that it's been a roller coaster of a journey.  I have a birthday in December as well-- I can't believe I will be 43.   And, yup, we are going to see what happens with having another one... I won't be able to be at peace if we don't give it a shot.  Although, some days, I feel that it might be a little nuts, given that DS is a handful sometimes and even if he wasn't, DH and I feel pretty exhausted a lot of the time just by having two little ones and us being older.  But then, I look back to what my life was like before I had even just the one, and I think, what on earth did I do with all my time anyway?  And, where did I get my joy from?  Some days, my heart feels like it's going to burst because the love is so strong-- but then there are some days where I think, my how nice would it be to even just be able to take 5 minutes for myself to go to the bathroom without having my toddler follow me in or scream for me to 'come see' or whatever.  On the topic of hurtful comments, I get a few every now and again when I mention about wanting a third... so now I don't really even tell people irl.


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Hi Everyone,

Just popping in to say hi and let you know that Levi Everett was born in the caul on Halloween night!!joy.gif joy.gifjoy.gif

 

 

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It was an amazing, natural, gentle hospital birth w/ a midwife, DH (BEST birth coach around!), my mom and my 10 yr old daughter. 

I am 42 years old and he was an unassisted conception.  And this was my 4th and easiest (full-term)pregnancy (I've had 8 m/c), as well as my fastest recovery yet!

I already want to do it again! blush.gif 

So, were sending sticky baby vibes to all of you mamas goodvibes.gif

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lovetolaugh, congratulations on the birth of precious little Levi!  So adorable!!! Glad to hear that everything went so smoothly-- it sounds absolutely amazing.  Thank you for sharing!  I love hearing these stories, it's just so warm and wonderful and encouraging! 


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Congratulations lovetolaugh! Welcome little Levi!

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Congratulations Lovetolaugh. What a beautiful birth story. I am so happy for you!

 

I am now 11 dpo, but my temperature is falling and I had a negative test this morning.I'm not expecting to be pregnant this month, but I'm not giving up yet,perhaps next month it will happen?

 

I saw my doctor yesterday and I'm so glad she is my doctor(despite the fact it is really,really hard to see her - it is obvious why she is so popular and busy). She is so lovely. We had a good chat about everything, and she feels confident that I can get pregnant again as I have done so three times in the last two years. She was telling me about all the women who fall pregnant accidentally in their forties and get an awful shock because they thought they were past needing contraception. She had a woman in her care who was 48, one of her colleagues cared for a woman who got the shocking news at age 52! Both went on to have healthy babies. She said my DH isn't really right to think our chance of getting pregnant is 1% because of my track record, but she's happy for him to be deluded(I love hergrin). We talked about progesterone and she's happy to prescribe it when I get a + ept. It is now in my notes, so it shouldn't be an issue if she isn't there. However, she doesn't want me to take clomid. She won't prescribe if I am ovulating on my own, which I am.She feels at my age it may decrease my chances rather than increase them as it will likely rid me of my eggs which are in low supply.She also feels it could cause hormonal imbalances that I don't want at my age. I respect her opinion and I am happy to go along with it for now.

I came away feeling happy and confident that I can get pregnant again. I want to take a relaxed approach, but it doesn't mean I'll not try, I just want to stay relaxed, not get crazy about it all.

When I got home I went to the toilet and noticed some spotting - I got all excited and thought"wow, this could be implantation spotting", but then I realised that I'd just had a pap smear so that's why! I don't usually get spotting from a pap smear, but I am SURE that is the cause.

 

If I'd been pregnant this month it would have cause us some issues with a vacation we have planned for in July next year. So it is probably best that I'm not pregnant (though I'll take a baby over vacation any daywinky.gif)

 

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Wow, this thread is very quiet.

Are there any others out there ttc over 40?

 

Last month was a bust, but I am getting close to O-ing again, so feeling optimistic.

 

My pap smear was normal,so I am happy about that.

 

Now, if I could just have a BFP for Xmas. Santa....?


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I'm finally able to use the computer instead of just my iPod, so I thought I'd post a bigger update.

 

For those who are TTC, here's what I did/used: I took a b-complex and Vitex to try to extend the luteal phase and even out my crazy-random cycles. I also tried progesterone cream, but I think I shouldn't have because when I stopped, I conceived a month later. My little guy was conceived after a year of no birth control, after having an expired Mirena removed. No other reproductive technology used. For me, if it didn't happen with the few things I tried, it wasn't meant to be and I was able to be at peace with that. But that's a very personal choice. 

 

We were days away from having to switch care to an OB, due to being at 42 weeks. I did have acupuncture three times in the week before he was born, including the evening I went into labor. I say it works! 

 

It's both easier and harder having an infant at 45. My girls are old enough to actually help and my YDD is really into her little brother. But my back is a bit creaky and he's already 11lbs at 4 weeks. DH really complains of his age:-(. I think our little guy will keep us young! We just need to be careful with our bodies and stay fit to keep up with him. 

 

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Hello, everyone! It's been even longer than I thought since I stopped by.

 

Congratulations Lovetolaugh and Miss_Sonja!! What wonderful stories. Tons of good wishes to you and your families. heartbeat.gifenergy.gifjoy.gif

 

Happy belated birthday, gumblossom!! flowersforyou.gif I love the story about your doctor (the second one, when she was there and encouraging).

 

I feel like I'm winding down on ttc. I've been trying to get used to having just one. In some ways I don't want to go back to that parenting a baby/toddler stage, but in in other ways, I'd be thrilled to. I also have had a lot of sinus and ear problems this year and worry that pregnancy would make them worse. So we keep trying, most months, and I find myself so conflicted during the 2ww. I'm much more in a mode of if it happens, it happens. I like us to have at least one try each month so at least there is a possibility.

 

I'm finding myself a little sad being here, which is sad in itself because this thread has been such source of support and hope. It is sad that I don't have the hope I once did. I really thought we'd have a second child by now. And like gumblossom, I'm open to the possibility it will happen another way. I'm also getting more open to the possibility of it not happening and appreciating the time and energy I can give to my really wonderful ds.


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Also want to mention to KarinaNYC, that I have a good friend who had her first at 43, in fact nearly 44, after at least 2 m/cs. And to others I have a friend in real life who had her second at nearly 46 after years of trying, and another who had her second at 46. And these are just friends in real life. There are plenty of hopeful stories out there.

 

Welcome KarinaNYC and Karabooboo! Check out our first page for more great stories!!

 

Hi Tenzin'sMama and Carmen and everyone else! blowkiss.gif


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Hi, all! I came across this thread a couple of weeks ago and wanted to drop a note. I'm a little more than 41 and we're trying to conceive our second. We've completed five cycles of trying, and I'm pretty sure I'll start my period in the next day or two.

I had two MCs before our first was born. I was 39 when he was born. After the second, I started seeing an acupuncturist after doing quite a bit of research and talking with my midwife. I had a short luteal phase, and it increased by about two days after a couple of months ( though it was still shortish). We held off trying for several months because of my acupuncturist's recommendation. We got pregnant with our son on the second month of trying (which also was the case with the two MC).

Needless to say, I've been worrying because we aren't pregnant yet and because I'm 41. I've continued my acupuncture and Mayan massage treatments since giving birth.

I'm still breastfeeding my li'l guy who is almost 2, and he nurses on demand (which is quite a bit). My periods are pretty regular. I've been testing for ovulation each of the five months we've tried. My luteal phase actually has been a day longer than before I conceived with my son.

I've been in touch with my midwife and my family doctor. Neither expressed much concern and said it could just take time. My family doctor recently delivered a 49-year-old's baby, who was conceived naturally. My acupuncturist has give both my husband and me some tests to try to figure out some of our hormone levels.

I'm just wondering if there may be some other things we might want to look into. We're not likely to look into IUI or other procedures because we don't feel we can afford these things. My DH is 6 years younger, so he's not necessarily facing similar age challenges. But, he's slightly underweight, and I've been wondering if that may affect his fertility.

I'd welcome some thoughts and/or words of encouragement. And thanks for providing a space to share.
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Welcome, cldeshano!

 

I would suggest getting your nutrition optimized since your reserves have been tapped significantly by your son. 

 

Here are a couple of blog posts that may be helpful:

 

http://www.sondrarose.com/optimum-fertility-nutrition

 

http://www.sondrarose.com/optimum-fertility-environment

 

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Welcome, cldeshano!

 

I would suggest getting your nutrition optimized since your reserves have been tapped significantly by your son. 

 

Here are a couple of blog posts that may be helpful:

 

http://www.sondrarose.com/optimum-fertility-nutrition

 

http://www.sondrarose.com/optimum-fertility-environment

 

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Thanks so much for these links, lovestolearn. So much great stuff in there!

And good luck to you! I'll keep watching the thread for some exciting news from you.
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Wow, it's been a looooong time since I've been here. I've had a lot going on and have sort of weaned myself off my online world so I could spend more energy on other things. But, it's really nice to see the mamas who've had their babes stopping by. orngbiggrin.gif And great to hear from my comrades WaturMama and Gumblossom, I feel like we shared so much when we were all really active here. love.gif

 

Welcome, cldeshano! I think you are very young and with patience and a healthy lifestyle will have no trouble getting pregnant. It might just be a matter of a few tweaks... when I was 43, I made a bunch of dietary changes and found a great fertility-focused TCM doctor, and within 3 months I was pregnant. Alas, it was ectopic, but from all indications it was a healthy thriving embryo, just in the wrong spot. Here's the nutshell version of the changes I made: gave up gluten, caffeine, alcohol, and went on a clean organic "warming diet" (nothing cold or raw, drinking what my TCM doc called "chicken soup", aka bone broth, every day), got my TSH level down to between 1-2 (had previously been 4-5), started taking lots of supplements (CoQ10, Myoinositol, fish oil, probiotic, wheat grass shots, prenatal, megadoses of Vitamin D), weekly acupuncture and Chinese herbs, and mind-body work (hypnotherapy, meditation, yoga, qi gong).

 

It's pretty challenging to sustain all of that on a long-term basis. It comes down to time, energy, focus and money, and I don't have a lot of any of those things. For me it's also difficult to feel that my "normal" life is on hold (i.e., the life I once had where I drank espresso and red wine and cold green smoothies and went for long runs and enjoyed a spontaneous sex life). But it's definitely doable for a few months, which might be all that you need at your age.

 

In the year since my ectopic, I've had multiple chemical pregnancies but nothing sticky, and so now I'm investigating immunological stuff... it turns out I have lots of red flags for potential immunological fertility problems, including the ability to sustain an ectopic pregnancy while all others fail. So we are in touch with two clinics that specialize in that, and I'm on some new anti-inflammatory supplements. I'm also focusing on stress reduction, which I figure will help whether or not I get pregnant. I'm doing an online stress reduction program, and am trying to work in just 10 minutes per day of meditation and/or yoga. One of the things I realized was creating a lot of stress in my life was my "orthorexia"... constantly fretting about eating/drinking the right/wrong things that would help or hinder my fertility. (I had gotten to the point where I would allow myself to get dehydrated if the only available water was cold water... weird to admit that). So I've relaxed a bit about that now and have started drinking one daily black tea again and having the occasional glass of wine or cold green smoothie. Salads are back in my life. It's amazing how much this has lowered my stress level, to have taken the reins once again and feel that I'm listening to my internal wisdom rather than some external authority. It's not just the REs that can create that problematic dynamic... an acupuncturist or a yogi can do that to you, too!

 

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Hi Litmama,

It is so nice to hear from you.

 

We have been very quiet on this board, but I think that you,Waturmama and I have been ttc for so long that there isn't all that much to write about these days, especially if we are taking a low key approach.

 

I hear you about the stress - especially about food. I recently completed a whole 30 - which was terrific. The results were definitely worth it. I have found,by doing it, that I don't do well with dairy. For years I tried everything,and always blamed gluten for problems, but since I also gave up dairy I feel even better. However, since doing the whole 30 -which is strictly no alcohol, no gluten,no sugar,no dairy, I find it very hard to forgive myself if I eat those things. Which means I am constantly beating myself up for slipping up. It is silly, because in reality my diet is probably a hundred times better than most people dizzy.gif.

 

My acupuncturist is always saying that if eating a certain way causes stress then it just isn't worth it.

 

I recently had another birthday - I am now 46 - but still hopeful I will have another baby. However I am realistic about it and have come to terms with the fact that it may not happen. I'm still giving it my best shot, and this month I am taking red clover isoflavones on day 3 -7, increasing the dose daily. I heard it works a bit like clomid (which I don't want to take,and my doctor doesn't want to prescribe for me). The idea is that the isoflavones will increase estrogen (I know mine is low) and hopefully help build a big juicy egg, or more than one egg, so more targets for the sperm!

 

I took the red clover last month, from AF to O, rather than taking it like clomid, and I noticed that my luteal phase was a day longer and AF was a little heavier,which is an improvement as my AF has been light and I worried my lining wasn't thick enough to support a pregnancy.

 

I am curious about the sups you are taking for inflammation. Actually inflammation is what got me into the "whole 30". After my second miscarriage last year I learnt that my ANA was high, which means I am a candidate for an autoimmune disease, but at this stage there is no indication of whether I will get an auto-immune disease or what it will be. So I wanted to dampen any inflammation I might have and the whole 30 diet is supposed to help. I also use the progesterone cream because I heard that it may help in that regard to stop the body rejecting a fetus. My doctor is also going to prescribe progesterone if I ever get another bfp.

 

My list of sups :

DHEA 50 mg a day;

wheat grass capsules,4 a day;

Co Q 10, 400mg a day;

magnesium,

pre-conception supplement;

royal jelly;

red clover isoflavones (pre-O);

krill oil.

 

I would love to hear from others what they are taking for supplements.


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Hi everyone, I wanted to pop in and share my good news. After decided we were done trying we had a change of heart and took 3 months off ttc (I started some new herbs, stopped some and saw a new acupuncturist) and then had another crack at it. After 5 miscarriages I'm currently 7w1d pregnant and saw a perfect 152bpm heartbeat today and little bean is measuring right on. I'm totally in shock and still terrified but I haven't made it this far since my pregnancy with DD. I have another u/s on Jan. 3 to check growth but at least for now I feel like I can at least feel pregnant for awhile anyway :)
 


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Congrats, Carmen!!!joy.gif

 

 

Gumblosson, are you taking any D3?  Getting my blood level up to 50-60 ng/ml has really helped my allergies/inflammation.  I take 6000 IUs/day.
 


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Congrats, Carmen! That is really wonderful news. It sounds like the time off did you some good. H&H 9 months to you!

 

Nice to see you're still around, too, lovestolearn!

 

Gumblossom, lovely to hear back from you. Happy Birthday! I hope it was a nice one. I agree... I think there's probably just less to report now that we've been at this a while. Interesting to hear about your Whole 30 diet... it sounds like exactly the sort of thing I'm feeling resistant to right now! But I'm very glad to hear it worked for you and that you're feeling so well. As for inflammation and supplements, thanks for sharing your list, I was considering starting Boswellia for inflammation (in my case, IBS), but instead am taking something called Proflavanol-C which has grapeseed extract and a "poly-C" blend that includes vitamin C, calcium and magnesium. I don't quite understand how the polyblend works, but apparently it's a synergistic thing. It's made by USANA. I was reluctant to dive into the whole USANA thing, because it seems a bit cult-like and I can't find positive reviews from anyone who doesn't sell the stuff (and thus is biased). They are recommended by Randine Lewis, Julia Indichova and many acupuncturists specifically for fertility and inflammation issues. Of course, all of these folks sell the stuff. However, my skepticism aside, I must say that I have seen a remarkable decrease in inflammatory symptoms (IBS) since starting them. We'll see how it goes.

 

Here's my full list of supplements du jour:

 

USANA Essentials (chelated minerals and mega-antioxidant multivitamin), 4 of each per day

USANA Proflavanol-C, 4 per day

Amazing Grass wheat grass tablets, 5 per day (just started... I used to use the powdered drink mix and/or frozen shots)

Fresh royal jelly, 1/4 teaspoon per day (just re-started... I tend to slack off on this one... various local brands I get at my coop)

Nordic Naturals Ultimate Omega fish oil, 4 capsules per day (about 2,500 mg omega-3)

CoQ10, 600 mg per day (various brands)

Jarrow Myoinositol, 4,000 mg per day 

Renew Life Critical Care Ultimate Flora probiotic, 1 capsule per day (50 billion live cultures)

Gaia Adrenal Health (haven't started yet... will only take before ovulation... contains Rhodiola, Holy Basil, Ashwagandha, Wild Oats milky seed, Schisandra berry)

Chinese herbs

 

This is very similar to what I was taking last year when I got pregnant... I've been able to drop some of the individual vitamins and minerals (like D, E, Zinc, Selenium) because the USANA multivitamin has higher potencies of these than the Rainbow light prenatals I was taking previously.

 

Oh, and I tried letrozole for 3 cycles... it did help me produce 2 eggs the one time I did an ultrasound (not sure of the other cycles, as we did them unmonitored), and it also gave me great EWCM (or maybe I just did that on my own, who knows?) and excellent progesterone levels in my luteal phase. Plus a couple of chemical pregnancies. But I worry about taking this on an ongoing basis, what it's doing to my hormones, etc. So I'm back to trying naturally next cycle.


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Congrats, Carmen! It's so very exciting! Hope these 9 months are wonderful for you.

Thanks so much for the suggestions about nutrition and lifestyle, litmama. It's funny because I know I should trim back my gluten intake, but I have the hardest time doing so. I'll have to be firmer in my commitment. I also need to make time for regular exercise. All things that will serve me well once I am pregnant. Thanks again!
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Wow! Great news Carmen. I am so happy for you. Come back and let us know how the next ultrasound goes.

 

Lovestolearn - I was taking Vitamin D, but now that it is summer here (Australia),and I'm in the sun everyday I have left out the vit d supplement. There is some in my pre-conception supplement http://www.blackmores.com.au/products/conceive-wellgold -I will have to check how much.

 

Litmama, I used to have IBS, and cutting out gluten really helped with that, but what has actually stopped it completely,for me,was doing the whole 30 and dropping dairy,I think.Or perhaps just doing the whole 30 dampened my inflammation? I dunno. I also took a pro-biotic for a month.

 

I started training yesterday - the couch to 5 K - and this morning my joints are sore and probably inflammed eyesroll.gif I feel I need to do a bit more exercise. I want to get the blood flowing partly to improve blood flow to the reproductive organs, but also because it is important to be fit to have a baby,and my MIL and FIL are both quite unwell at the moment and it has scared me into wanting to take extra care of my health.

 

I had acupuncture the other day. We don't talk much about getting me pregnant anymore, but I asked her last time how my energies were (you know when they take the pulse in about 6 different places) and she said they were surprisingly good for someone who had recently been up all night with sick DS and it is also the end of my working year (I'm a teacher and we have our long summer break now) and I was complaining of feeling tired. I told her I was worried about having the energy to cope and sustain a pregnancy and she said,"I can't say you will or won't get pregnant, but I can say you will definitely support a pregnancy well". That made me feel positive. I still feel there is a baby for me, of course it doesn't mean there definitely is, but I don't feel I need to give up ttc.

 

Litmama, thanks for your list of sups. I too have read (Randine lewis and Indochova) that the USANA essentials are the way to go. But I've also had a look at the "Baby code" by Chris Kessler and he says everyone ttc to should be taking fermented cod liver oil. I was tempted to buy some, but it sounded so ghastly, I don't know if I could get that medicine down! I have a large bottle of krill oil capsules to get through, so I may reconsider once they are gone.

 

I sometimes feel tempted to just finish the sups I have now and then go sup-free for a while and see what happens, lol, but having discussed it with my acupuncturist, she seems to think that taking sups and super foods is really important as we age.

 

HOw is everyone shaping up in their Christmas preparations? I think I am nearly organised. I still have to wrap everything - it is the thing I like least at Christmas time. We are having a quiet time at home with my immediate family - just Dh and me and the 5 kids. Later in the day we'll head out to a friend's farm to have a meal with them. Today I'm heading into he farmer's market, I love this time of year there. I'll pick up fresh cherries, perhaps a crayfish or scallops (yum!) and loads of fresh vegies. Then I am meeting my sister to exchange gifts. It will be nice.partytime.gif


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