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SilaMarila 01-03-2013 12:41 PM

Taking The Scenic Route to a BFP

Winter/Spring 2013 


Hello and Welcome!


The original "Scenic Route" thread was started by Sherryvhkb and can be found here. This is a continuation.


"This is a "grad thread" of sorts for us 1st cycle on Clomid ladies.....who are no longer on our first cycle of Clomid but have enjoyed each others company and support. It is also for all those who have neen lurking, following, chiming in and cheering us on. It is for a group of women all trying to get to the same place by taking the roads less traveled. We all have a journey here- some longer- some harder...we all at different times come up against obstacles and uphill climbs...and in between it all we share our fears, choices, hopes, frustrations, and accomplishments, and throw in a little bit of everyday life too." - Sherryvhkb


So whether you have chosen to pursue infertility treatments, alternative treatments, or have been at this a while and just want to learn more, feel free to jump in and get to know us!

skj2011 01-03-2013 12:49 PM

Thanks for the new thread sila!

Chrissy - did you test again? My first + on a FRER was much lighter than the cheapie. I hope it's just too soon.

toothfairy2be 01-03-2013 01:19 PM

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Thanks Sila- I think a fresh new thread could be just what we've needed.

Lost an embryo today. Scheduled for 1120 or 1140 tomorrow as long as things stay the same. I find out around 8 tomorrow if they change me to 5 day. Unlikely,I think, with only 4 babies left.

SilaMarila 01-03-2013 01:48 PM

Tfairy - Aw, sorry for loss of your little embaby. How many are you planning on transferring/how many will they allow you to transfer? All of them?


Chrissy - When I used FRERs the result was lighter as well. Remember the darkness of the test line doesn't necessarily mean anything, HPT's are qualitative not quantitative. Are you just going to wait it out or go in for a blood test? I'm sorry you are in this terrible limbo!


I'll be back for more personals! I was just checking in to make sure you guys were finding the new thread :)

Lidamama84 01-03-2013 01:51 PM

Thanks for the new thread, SilaMarila! I love following your posts, and lurking just got a whole lot easier :p  I love the sense of community you gals have, and am always reading along!


Edited to add:

I don't usually join in because I don't feel like I really belong in the "scenic route" category since we don't have fertility issues, but I do kind of feel like we are taking our own scenic route to completing our family, just because of timing when we add to our family. 

chuord 01-03-2013 02:01 PM

Hi there! I guess I'm an accidental lurker... I forgot which thread I had joined, so read all of your last one looking for my entry lol (realize now I can see through profile!) after reading it all I feel a sort of connection - you all try and be positive and are so supportive of each other! I don't think I have any fertility issues (lol wait and see... 8dpo and counting) however I had to put off trying to get pregnant for 5 years due to I'll health - during which time everyone I know has had Babies. So I understand the emotional roller coaster - and think you guys are brilliant! I did a lot of work with natural therapies (info on my profile if interested)
Tooth fairy I know you are going thru stress right now, I'm sending you all - but you in particular heaps if positive thoughts! Thanks for letting me share

indie1976 01-03-2013 02:55 PM

sorry for the drive by, crazy day today and will have to catch up on all the posts later just want to say:


sila - thanks for the new thread! love a fresh start and it was definitely time!


toothfairy - i am so sorry but still so excited for transfer. did they give you any pics yet or does that only happen at transfer? thinking of you constantly.


skj - i will see you soon!!!


lurkers - welcome and thanks for the good wishes!


chrissy - hoping something is cooking in there... will be checking in for an update...


afm - bfn this morning. will test again in the a.m. but not expecting anything... trying to summon up as much positivity as possible for IUI...

Shell77 01-03-2013 04:03 PM

SKJ : I need to do a liver detox after last weekend!! lol


INDIE: your doing a IUI? I am lost ... I thought you were doing IVF UGH sorry for my forgetful mind...


TF: I am sorry you lost one today :-( I would put all 4 back in me if I was you.. :-)


Sila: well maybe a new thread will make me a baby haha


JPACK: thankks for the HUG


I am sure I am missing something... anywho AFM

Hi everyone... I promised to write everyday haha but I really don't have much to say ... My back is messed up BAD, going to the Doctor probably tomorrow. ... I still want a baby that hasn't changed. lol ... I am cleaning my house all weekend, I am going to get my garage cleaned and go through my closet... fresh start!! maybe after i get ALL the hard labor done I will get pregnant.

skj2011 01-03-2013 05:22 PM

Shelly - Sorry about your back greensad.gif I hope it gets better soon. I love the idea of a fresh start. I'm inspired by your strength.

TF - I'm so sorry to hear about your embaby. This is suck a stressful process . I hope that tomorrow brings good news and you are able to transfer a perfect embaby or two. Thinking lots of good thoughts for you and your growing family.

Indie - Sorry for the BFN. I'm so excited to see you and for your injectibles cycle!!

Lurkers - Thanks for cheering us on!

AFM - Every now and then I have a hard time with this thread being in the TTC section vs. the Infertilty section b/c even if I'm not reading other threads, I can't help but notice so many lucky women getting pregnant without much effort. I still get jealous. And, then my mind starts to wander and I think of all the ladies on the One thread and Nursing moms thread who I started TTC with that have had their babies. There is a least one person who was TTC when I started and is now TTC again for another child. So depressing. I wonder if it will ever happen for me.

gtree 01-03-2013 05:53 PM

Sila - thanks for the new thread!  It feels so much lighter. :)


Shelly - So happy you are here again.  I missed your humor. 


TF - I'm sorry you lost a little embie, it made me really sad when I read that, I guess, I didn't realize how attached I am to mine that are off frozen somewhere. I still think you are going to get pregnant with our second set of twins and I'm looking forward to that.  I will be thinking about you tomorrow, let us know if it is changed to 5 day.


Indie - We'll rally around you for that IUI and however you end up getting your baby, I'll join you for a trip to disney world with our kids in tow! I am jealous you and SKJ will be hanging out soon.


Hi to everyone else!!


AFM - glucose blood test in the am (the one where I have to drink some orange drink an hour before being tested and then my anatomy ultrasound at 1. I hope I have some awesome pics to share!  I started a new job today and am beyond tired.

MindlessChrissy 01-03-2013 06:07 PM

Sila - Thanks for the new thread.


TF - Oh no. I'm sorry for the loss of your embie. But love and strength to the remaining 4!


Lida and Chourd - Welcome! Join in how much or little you feel comfortable with!


Indie - Major hugs my friend.


Shell - Nice to have you back. I'm sorry about your back and all you have been through.


SKJ - I know the feeling. I joined Mothering after I had ds looking for help with him and a good portion of the ladies already have a 2nd, working on a 2nd, or already trying for a 3rd. It's crazy.


Gtree - The glucose test was nothing. The drink tasted too sugary but it wasn't bad. You're not allowed to pee the whole time. If you do, you'll have to retake the test. I ended up with gestational. It was...uhm...interesting.


AFM - I didn't test again today. I'm all emotional watching Mobbed. They have a lady who has been trying to have a baby for 5 years and she's 3 months pregnant. Heard heartbeat and all and wants the mobbed people to surprise her husband with the news. Anyway, I'll test tomorrow with 2nd mu for the hell of it. Am I crazy or did they change something with the frer? I saw a white line for a bit before anything else. Also "normally" the tests are dark by now but with all these chemicals the test is always light. Oy!

gtree 01-03-2013 06:44 PM

Oh Shit Chrissy, I am watching Mobbed too.  I don't know why I do this to myself.  I am sure to cry.  arghhhh


And thanks for the heads up, I totally would have peed in the middle of that darn test.

gtree 01-03-2013 06:57 PM

Ok, I am officially bawling.  

jpack 01-03-2013 07:01 PM

Chrissy a bad batch, maybe? Hmmm...

gtree I was crazy with the glucose test. I once was tested for PCOS (a long time ago) and had some insulin resistance. So I was sure the ir would translate into gd. I don't know why. But I was determined to do everything I could, so I got up and ran/ walked for the hour of waiting. I think I was more like 6-7 months, and the hospital where my clinic was is on the same campus as the law school I was attending. So picture this: crazed-looking, 7-mo pregnant law student running like a lunatic in a few circles around the law school in the middle of the day. I found it amusing, anyway. I of course have NO IDEA if it made any impact at all, and am NOT recommending that strategy, but the test did come out fine... Good luck tomorrow!
Also new job? That's exciting! Love to hear more!

SKJ I hear you, but it's gonna happen for you, my dear. It is.

Shell, so sorry about your back! Good luck with that!

TF I'm so, so sorry for your little embie but dying to hear about the other four and how everything goes tomorrow!!!

Indie ok, so you're not psyched, but I'm looking forward to hearing about your iui! I'm up at bat next cycle and I know it's old news to the rest but I'm looking forward to hearing!

AFM new iPhone 5 over here to distract me. (Also got a "trickle down" payment from another broker that my mom helped out on a monstrous deal so I'm suddenly less of a Scrooge! Yay!! Wasn't sure how we were gonna make everything work until the next closing but now we'll be ok! I kinda had the feeling everything would work out!...) ok, I digress. Retail therapy is a bad tactic for controlling the 2ww. Probably the exercise games on the Xbox are a better strategy. So my tests came and I know it's pathetic but I'm on a once a day plan. It's my first trigger- it's ok, right?! It's so dumb how that second line is so exciting even if I know it's not real. I actually have no faith that this cycle is gonna work. Instead I have this feeling that next cycle will. In August I tried clomid for the first time. I wasn't monitored but then the next cycle on clinics I was. That September cycle had two good looking follicles. I think the trigger is critical (no trigger September) now. I think I need at least the buildup of clomid and the trigger and maybe an IUI. All that is next cycle. So anyway, long story short I'm keeping my expectations low for this cycle. That's my logic. It's working for now, anyway. All the best to everyone!!

MindlessChrissy 01-03-2013 07:29 PM

JPack - We're looking into new phones. DH wants the Samsung Galaxy S 2.


Gtree - DH changed the channel on me. He saw me crying and said "This is hitting too close to home. Time for hockey"

SilaMarila 01-03-2013 08:33 PM

Hello lurkers! I knew this would inspire you to show yourselves :) Welcome!


SKJ - Liver cleansing/detoxing sounds like a great idea. Personally, I like juice fasting (feasting really, you can drink as much as you need to). I feel you on the ttc boards thing. Just this month alone 2 people that were ttc #1 when first started posting here just got baby #2 bfps last week. Major ranting in my head. I even considered creating Rants thread on our other group. But now I'm over it and don't care because they are happily pregnant and won't be reading this anyways. Totally depressing.


I have no idea what Mobbed is. I've gotten sucked into season 1 of Revenge on Netflix...


Hi Shell! Hope you back feel better!


Jpack - Major iPhone jealousy over here. So here's the thing with testing out the trigger. Something about seeing those 2 line even though you know you aren't pregnant is crazy making. Then you feel like you have to keep testing to see them because you want so badly for them to never stop. Then each day you compare them thinking is it darker? Is it lighter? Is it darker? Is it lighter? It can also stay in your system a full 2 weeks after trigger. I'm pretty sure it's the one of the biggest mindf*cks known to woman. Never again I tell you. 

bebelove 01-03-2013 09:12 PM

Just got caught up and can't believe how much I've missed. I'm going to properly post with personals this weekend but wanted to let you know I am following along and cheering everyone on (especially TF right now - come on embies!).

Had an OB appt today and it went great. Finally starting to really show and feeling great about everything. Baby girl was moving so much!! I also told my boss and boss's boss. Went better than expected but much to tell. Will post on the GG along with my 15! xo

toothfairy2be 01-04-2013 02:42 AM

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I woke up before my alarm & feel icky. Nerves I guess. They will give us a photo today before transfer but only the ones going back. I made a spicy chicken chili for tonight. How do those who have done Crinone before deal with it?? I'm sure it works better but this ish is gross. I'm spotting which is annoying because I wasn't the 2 days prior. I'm just thinking out loud. Heading to work now, will send you an update before I go in!

jpack 01-04-2013 05:14 AM

TF ooh, so exciting! Sorry about the spotting!! Good luck!

toothfairy2be 01-04-2013 05:40 AM

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So we got moved to day 5 transfer. No twins for me.

indie1976 01-04-2013 06:06 AM

toothfariy - hug2.gif every step of this process is so hard... you know you should celebrate having healthy embryos that make it to day 5 but at the same time have to grieve your hopes for twins... it's all just so so hard! but i am so happy to hear your embies are strong enough to go to day 5... i know that means you have such a better chance of getting that take home baby! you are soooo close!!


everyone else - hi!! happy friday! will be back later for personals.

skj2011 01-04-2013 06:09 AM

Oh tf! Sorry about no twins, but I agree with indie. Sounds like you have nice strong embabies ready to become your take home baby ! And, isn't the chance of one splitting to two higher with ivf? Maybe you'll get identical twins!!

SilaMarila 01-04-2013 07:33 AM

Oh Tfairy I'm sorry you have to wait and I'm sorry no twins. Hang in there. Hugs. Also, I think Crinone has a reputation for irritating the cervix and that could be the cause of the spotting.

MindlessChrissy 01-04-2013 08:38 AM

Tf - hugs sweetie.

bebelove 01-04-2013 12:38 PM

TF, big big hugs!! Can't wait for your next update!!

chuord 01-04-2013 01:15 PM

TF sending heaps of good vibes and love to your embabies

Lidamama84 01-04-2013 01:45 PM

Fingers and toes crossed for you, Toothfairy! Forgive my ignorance, but what is the difference between 3-day and 5-day transfers and why can't they transfer 2 embies? What if you want twins?

indie1976 01-04-2013 02:15 PM

ok, let's see if i can remember everything!


shell - yes, i'm doing an IUI... new RE talked me into doing it (this time with injectables) at least one more time before IVF. Said I responded beautifully to the IUI with clomid, though my lining was a little thin (so doing femara instead of clomid this time). So I'm obeying and giving it a shot. It sure would be nice if it worked...


gtree - i would love to go to disney with our little brats! that would be the greatest! tell us about your new job! that must be exhausting starting a new place at this point in your pregnancy!


chrissy - i have had issues with white lines on frers... now i don't let myself watch them "develop" because i swear i see a line every time and then it disappears. gawd, we've all used way too many frers, haven't we?


bebe - still waiting for that belly pic and your 15!! how exciting that you are showing! also can't wait to hear about how your boss reacted to the news!


sila - you are going to have to give me that same trigger talk here soon. i didn't test it out the one time i used it but i might find myself tempted this time...


jpack - SO jealous of you iphone 5! we had 4S's but then both of ours crapped out just over a year (and past warranty) so luckily we still had out 4's laying around and we're using them again (but they are soooo slow). we may upgrade to the 5 around may or we may stick it out and wait for the 5s. fingers crossed for you! i would love to see that second line!! it's been nearly 2 1/2 years! wow that made me really sad when i typed that just now. 


toothfairy - i'm sure this waiting is excruciating. so sunday is the big day now, right?


afm - first week of january is a doozy and i see clients all day tomorrow. it has been raining all day here which is out of the ordinary. FL is usually hit it and quit it with rain. 12dpo and no spotting. that's nice. i guess i will take the prometrium through 14dpo and then i'm guaranteed to be in town for my baselines. getting nervous about having to see numbers again. what if they are worse? what if my fsh has jumped? i will need lots of internet hand holding next week, i can feel it. 

indie1976 01-04-2013 02:18 PM

shell - i forgot to add that i hope your back is better soon! still holding out hope for a post-IVF bfp for you!

toothfairy2be 01-04-2013 04:23 PM

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Lida- i'm only 27 so they won't transfer more than one blastocyst. Due to the inherent risks to mother and baby you can't get 2 just because you 'want' twins. Puts too much risk on the facility if they allowed that. Massachusetts seems to be a luttle funny with IVF because insurance cover it. They don't push as hard because it isn't costing the patients o much. They tend to be more cautious (at least in my experience) therefore, less OHSS (dont need a ton of eggs when you can try again), fewer twins. So one baby will be good enough(even though I would have loved twins).

Indie- sorry about the rain! I never had an iphone 4 but got the 5 for christmas. I love it! Trigger advice... Did it once, i broke my heart that the test went white & never came back. If it stayed positive or got positive again it would be a different story. Just not my experience.

Sila- thanks for the crinone info. It seemed like it was from the uterus because it was red. I took an extra dose last night (they said jst 1x a day but i know with my old cycles i always had to double up the first few days or id bleed. I hope this is a quick cycle so you can get going on a medicated round.

Afm- just hanging out waiting for sunday. I'll tell ya, I don't know if it was growing so many eggs, that my uterus is huge or the crinone but if I didnt know that I couldnt be pregnant Id swear I have symptoms. Bladder pain, gas pain, constipation, sore uterus, bloating, tired. So to elaborate on the 5 day thing, it goes back to my need for control & having/sticking to a plan. I havent slept well in days and knowing we only had 4 embryos I was quite certain we would have a 3 day. I was prepared for a 3 day, for th chance that at least one of the two could stick. To get the call that we were moved with no expanation (they couldnt give me embryo quality, just that all 4 are still growing) I was shocked. I've adjusted my expectations now, especially after some research on success rates. I feel more confident that one will work and this is better for us (also, less days to worry & be stuck on the couch!). So I'm taking it easy & preparing for Sunday. Here we go again!

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