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gumblossom 01-26-2013 02:30 PM

Here's the new thread ladies.Hopefully there will be more action and the thread won't last a whole year.


I know we'll see some bfp's on the thread. joy.gifI can add you to the list, or feel free to cut and paste.


The list:


Trying to conceive:


gumblossom, 47 years old, mama to 5, ttc about 4 years (3 miscarriages)

KarinaNYC, 42 yrs old, optimistically (and naturally) trying to conceive #1

Meander 40 years old ttc #2

Shell77- 40 years old trying to conceive #3 , But DH's #1 For 18months.... 1 failed IVF and 5 failed IUI's

 orangemomma, 44 and trying to conceive #3.

MamaTara  41 with three children

MsDolphin, 44 - DS born at 41, TTC #2 for 2.5 years. Have tried 3 rounds of Clomid, then injectables with 2 IUI attempts.

lovbeingamommy 48  (ttc #2 - 3 m/c 2008, 2010)

jrabbit Almost 47, and WANTING-TC

41Mommymaybe Im 41 , I have a 2 yr old that took 16 yrs to conceive after 6 miscarriages

MamadeRumi:I'm 43.  I'll be 44 in about a month!  I had my DS when I was 40

mamasee46 ttc#2

Zbugmama 41 ttc#2

morningtide 39

Halifax40:46 DH-45 DS born June 2012 TTC#2

Soul-O: 40, TTC #7


chilee: Age 44, My last 2 children were born while tc on this thread :) at age 40 and 42





carmen358:I am 42 and  17 weeks pregnant with #2 after 5 miscarriages

cldeshano:DS 2,I'm 41 and had a miscarriage in January

caritasrainbow 42 pregnant with #6

chichimama: 44 in September

innacircle:40, pregnant with #1


Babies born:


Halifax40: 46 years old,  Xander born June 2012


TenzinsMama, 43 yrs old, Baby #3 born Nov 2013



List of supplements and nutritional information for ttc:

DHEA: 25mg 3x a day, for improved egg quality

Co q10 : ubiquinol is the best type: more easily absorbed: up to 800mg a day (protects the cells you have)

folic acid (5000mg a day)

 fermented cod liver oil (best sorce of Omega3 for anti-infammation)

baby aspirin in the tww (keeps blood flowing, stops tiny clots that may cause miscarriage)


red clover isoflavones (nature’s clomid, take similar doses on same days as clomid)

FertilAid for men

vitex and maca (for regulating the cycle)

Litmama: “My acupuncturist said that 1 glass of red wine a week is actually beneficial to my circulation and bloodflow to the uterus and ovaries”

vitamin D (many people are low without realizing and Vit D is essential for conception)


Evening Primrose Oil and milkthistle ( from AF to Ovulation) for better cervical mucus. 

Resveratol: anti-aging properties

Royal Jelly


B complex : to lengthen luteal phase

Chinese Herbs to boost Yin (essential for fertility),

Folate (recently learned that if you can find folate it's better than folic acid - better absorbed).  

Make a tea with some or all of these:  decaf green tea, red clover, oatstraw, alfafa, nettle, mint, raspberry, dandelion root, lemon, honey.  
USANA Pro-Flavanol (antioxidants) 
Mitochondrial Energy Optimizer with BioPQQ (for egg quality: is supposed to not only help with biogenesis of new mitochondria (which could in theory help you produce brand-spanking-new eggs) but also protection of cells through various actions (such as anti-glycation... glycation is when your cellular membranes harden... not good for egg health, they need to be soft and penetrable)

info on pqq:
Rhodiola (for stress and fertility) 
Chlorophyll capsules (2 per day) 
Renew Life Ultimate Flora Probiotics with B-Infantis (1 per day) 
NAC (can't recall dosage) 
Maxiflavone (2 per day for immune issues) 

Shatavari (for immune issues)

Fo Ti (for anti-aging and fertility)

Pepcid and claritin (after ovulation, for immune issues)

bee pollen, propolis

camu camu



Reading List:

Alan Beer's book, Is Your Body  Baby Friendly

TCM book Making Babies

books by Julia Indochinova

Randine Lewis's book, The infertility Cure

tenzinsmama 01-26-2013 02:48 PM

TenzinsMama, 43 yrs old, trying to conceive #3


Thanks, gumblossom!

KarinaNYC 01-27-2013 11:46 AM

Greetings wave.gif.... please add me...42 yrs old, optimistically (and naturally) trying to conceive #1. Looking forward to the new year with new hope!


Best to all ~K 

Stevi 01-27-2013 01:15 PM

I lurk in here often enough that I might as well be on the list. 43 years old. TTC #1 for (gulp) over 7 years. 2 micarriages in 2008. Single - using donors.

gumblossom 01-27-2013 02:54 PM

Welcome to the thread ladies. Nice to see some old faces.


Stevi, where are you at with ttc? Do you do inseminations every cycle? It can't be easy doing this on your own.((hugs))


You all seem so young to me! But I won't let a number beat me down.


I am feeling optimistic this cycle. I've had a tonne of symptoms since 1 DPO. Sounds nuts doesn't it? But I  know I am not imagining them. I guess this time next week, when I am 11 DPO, I'll have a better idea of what is going on. In the meantime I'll enjoy believing that there's a good chance I'll get a bfpwild.gif

Stevi 01-27-2013 03:00 PM

Yes, I try pretty much every cycle. But the timing is not always as good as I would like.

halifax40 01-29-2013 12:09 PM

Hi everyone, just thought I would drop by and see if this group was still active and see how everyone is doing. Don't know where the time has gone, Xander will be 8 months old in just a week and a half, it is just flying by. Went through so much to get here, but can honestly say that it was worth every moment of frustration, fear, and heartbreak that we went through...being a mom is all I could have imagined and so much more, I feel as though I smile almost all the time (and could I do anything but with this smile to greet me all the time). Here is a photo I took at Christmas :-)


Not actively TTC yet as still haven't had first PPAF, the breastfeeding is really keeping that at bay...and I know the odds are so very small once it returns, but would love for this little guy to have a brother or sister, so we are open to trying. Wishing best of luck to everyone on here no matter where they are in their journey!

gumblossom 01-29-2013 02:38 PM

Hi Halifax, it is so nice to hear from you and to see your darling little boy. He is gorgeous!


Would you mind reminding me if you did anything different when ttc Xander. I see in your siggy you had three miscarriagesand a later loss (so much heartache, ((hugs)) ), did you find a cause for them and have treatment, or was it a case of the "golden" egg this time?


I am still only 6 dpo and having a truckload of symptoms. I try hard to ignore them, but they're definitely there. I guess I just have to wait it out a few more days.

tenzinsmama 01-29-2013 03:29 PM

Hi Halifax, thanks for the update! Wow, what a cutie Xander is-- I don't think I've ever seen such a big, whole-hearted smile like that, ever! You sound so happy, how wonderful to read your story. My little girl just turned 8 months yesterday, and I'm back to ttc'ing since I had my 1st PPAF when she was 5 months. With DS, it came back at 5.5 months, even with exclusive breastfeeding.  I nursed him until he was just over 17 months old, at which point I was 4 months pregnant with DD-- that was when he self-weaned. So, now I'm on CD5 of my 4th PP cycle, and I'm acutely aware that I had conceived DD on my 8th PP cycle... so I'm reaching that 'marker' soon enough. I'm more worried this time around, because my antral follicle count has gone way down since I last had it done about 1.5 years ago, but I'm still hopeful. I think it's a good sign that I'm still cycling strong, my body is showing signs that it is doing what it needs to be doing and I'm very regular-- I just need to catch one more 'golden' egg (love that, gumblossom!). I love this thread because each of us has our story and they contain different elements of hope for us all on here.

saoirse2007 01-30-2013 08:19 AM

WOOT Halifax <3

halifax40 02-03-2013 11:06 AM

Thanks so much! I know I am biased but I think he has an amazing smile :-)


Gumblossom- Wish I could share something, but I think it really was a matter of just finally getting the "golden egg". After the third M/C I had some basic testing done that showed no issues (other than my age and the expected changes with that) and as my cycles were still quite regular and OPK/BBT charting seemed to be confirming O each cycle, we just kept giving things as much of a shot as we could around my fertile time. Only things I was taking were a prenatal vitamin, a vitamin D supplement, and for awhile I took low dose aspirin as I had read some studies suggesting it could be helpful. The first loss at 19 weeks was due to Triploidy (so a random chromosomal issue) and after that the 3 M/C and 2 chemical pregnancies I can only assume were due to age related chromosomal issues of my eggs (or sperm issues as older dads also have a higher chance of such). I can only say that I am so glad that we kept trying. Wishing you best of luck!


Tenzinsmama- Wow on your cycles returning so early both times...not even a hint of things returning here, and as much as I want to try again, and am painfully aware of my age, I can't see me cutting the nursing short for my sweet little guy just to get my cycle back sooner, I just hope my body will soon kick in on its own to at least give me that chance to try. I wouldn't let your antral follicle count bother you, from what I saw from another post of yours it is still higher than mine was I had testing done years ago....and hey you are only 43! :-)

gumblossom 02-03-2013 02:06 PM

Halifax, yours is such a hopeful story, to finally have your gorgeous baby after so many losses. It really does give me hope.


Unfortunately after loads of early symptoms, I am sure AF will turn up tomorrow or the next day. My temperature is on its way down and have had enough BFN's to know that it isn't to be. I felt very hopeful this month. I think it may be because it was a deadline I had set myself. But like all the other deadlines I set myself, I seem to have moved the finishing line again. I was going to quit ttc on my 45th birthday, then last January, then my 46th birthday, then this January. But here I am, it is February, and I don't want to give up completely just yet.


However, I will not let any of this make me feel sad as I've much to be happy for. My little "golden egg" is now 4 and a half and starts kindergarden today. I can't believe it is happening already. We are both excited and a little apprehensive. It is another milestone reached, and I did actually think by this stage we'd have a little baby brother or sister here too. It is nice I can focus on DS right now with this transition in his life.


I have been taking DHEA, hoping it would improve egg quality, but I have learned that it may cause thinning of the lining, so I am not sure whether to carry on taking it. I stopped during the tww, but now that AF ia imminent, I wonder if I should start taking it again? I still take Co q10, multi,folic acid, fermented cod liver oil,aspirin in the tww and magnesium.

meander 02-05-2013 04:31 PM

I am dipping a toe in here cautiously. I am 40 and hoping that my 19 month old son may be able to have a sibling. Right now I am in the TWW.
I'm a little concerned about short cycles; we will do some testing if this one goes poorly as the last two, but right now neither of us wants to pursue too manyinterventions, so we'll just see what happens for the near future....

Shell77 02-06-2013 11:34 AM

 Shell77- 40 years old trying to conceive #3 , But DH's #1 For 18months.... 1 failed IVF and 5 failed IUI's  Maybe my egg's are just too old :-(

gumblossom 02-07-2013 02:29 PM

Welcome Meander, and hi to Shell77.


Sorry to hear about the ivf and iui's Shell. This ttc business is a tough gig isn't it?


I am guessing you have had testing done if you have been involved in Assisted Conception. How do your hormones and FSH and AMH look? Would you consider doing IVF with donor eggs?


If my DH was willing and I had the money I'd try donor egg. But my only option is to wait and see. Halifax's experience gives me hope. I think ttc in our forties is something that requires a great deal of patience and time. Something we all feel we are running out of!


I had been really hopeful in the first week of my tww, but then all my symptoms fell away,and sure enough I am now on day 3 of a new cycle. I wonder if I have dud eggs fertilising and not implanting, or if my hormones are not strong enough,or if implantation doesn't happen for some reason. It seems to me that every conception is a miracle that needs  a whole lot of things to line up perfectly,and as we age,some of those things just aren't there,or there isn't enough, but that's not to say it won't happen eventually, when everything is right. We just don't know exactly what is a little out and how to tweak it to perfection.eyesroll.gif I think, for me, the best approach is to remain hopeful and continue with well-timed sex, supplements and have a "wait and see" approach. Very much easier said than donewink1.gif


I keep hoping that somehow, our babies will find us. I haven't given up, but I came away from acupuncture last night feeling that maybe it won't happen for me. I think my acupuncturist intimated as much, when she used to be quite positive. We were talking about my little boy reaching another milestone and I told her it is hard to see him go to school, wondering if it is the last time I'll do it. She said something along the lines that it may be that it is time to accept that he will always be my youngest. I don't know, she didn't actually say it, it was more "suggested".

Of course she is just my TCM practioner,she doesn't have a crystal ball, and she still says my energy is good and regular periods are a good sign of ovulation. Apparently I have some liver stagnation, so I need to look into how I can deal with that with herbs and food. I have a great book by Randine Lewis called "The Infertility Cure" which explains how to treat traditional Chinese Medicine diagnosis. I have read that book so many times, but have yet have my miracle baby since reading it.

Perhaps it is time to try the alternative view: take up smoking,drinking, eating fast food, giving up vegetables, all things organic and shock my body into falling pregnant. It seems treating my body like a friggin temple hasn't done the jobirked.gif

Having said that, I am a week into my second "whole 30", which is a way of eating that is extremely healthy and works as a "detox" of sorts. I did it last year, stuck it out for 30 days and lost about 6 -8 pounds (can't remember now). Anyway, I felt very good on it. I did pick up some more red clover isoflavones (natures clomid) today,and will take them as I did the month before last,as I think they helped with EWCM and a heavier period (mine are quite light).


How is everyone else going? Where are you at with your cycles?


Waturmama and LitMama, are you out there? Are you reading the thread? I would love to hear from you - I miss you both.

orangemomma 02-12-2013 12:45 PM

Hi, new here!

I am orangemomma, 44 and trying to conceive #3.

I had my first at age 30 and my second at age 42.

I am still nursing DD but my cycle, including ovulation, returned when she was 5 months old.

We have fertility issues (in addition to the lowered probability of conception due to my/our age)


Not sure what else to say :)


Baby dust to all!

MamaTara 02-18-2013 06:01 PM

It's comforting to hear of others in the same boat. How nice it would be to sit with you all over a cup of tea and talk about our experiences.


I'm 41 with three children. In addition to the challenge of our ages, DH recently had a vasectomy reversal and his SA came back with very low motility. How's that for a challenge! winky.gif


I swing from being so very happy and grateful for where we are now, accepting there may not be another baby for us, to desperately hoping that we can. It's such a roller coaster ride of emotions. I haven't been charting, but I probably should start. I'm hesitant to get compulsive about this, but I also feel I might just have to put in more effort than I did in the past.


I hope to hear some success stories in this thread. All the best to you all.

gumblossom 02-19-2013 02:01 AM

Welcome MamaTara and Orangemama.


I hope everyone else is well?


I've just had 2 days of "peak" readings on my CBFM after days of Low. No "highs" at all. Has anyone else had this happen on the monitor?


I have been BDing since day 8, every second day, so I am hoping there are plenty of sperm waiting for my golden egg. I think I might have ovulated today or last night as I had O pain last night. So here comes another two week wait. I am hopeful for a BFP at the end of it.

MsDolphin 02-21-2013 10:01 PM

Hi ladies,


I think some of you already know my history from other threads...


I had my DS at 41, after trying for only 2 months. So blessed we were able to conceive so "easy and quickly".

I had hoped to get pregnant again quickly (within a year) after he was born. We decided to TTC for one year.

2.5 years later... we are still trying. I have tried 3 rounds of Clomid and then injectables with 2 IUI attempts.


Our "cut-off" is we want to have another baby before we turn 45. That "cut-off" was last month.

We are going to try through this month, so baby would be born in 2013. Then we plan to stop.


It's so hard to "give up". I hope and pray this is our month!


My summary:

MsDolphin, 44 - DS born at 41, TTC #2 for 2.5 years. Have tried 3 rounds of Clomid, then injectables with 2 IUI attempts.

carmen358 02-28-2013 06:42 AM

Just stopping by to offer encouragement!! Nice to see more people jumping in over 40! I don't drop in often but I think about this group often! Good luck!


I'm 17 weeks along now and so far, so good. After 5 losses it's hard to be relaxed but I'm workin' on it! (For those who don't know me, I am 42 and pregnant with #2 after 5 miscarriages - no diagnosed issues, "just age" and no intervention)

ultrafighter 02-28-2013 10:04 AM

I'm only 33, but I just wanted to come in here and offer some love and support!!  heartbeat.gif

Stevi 02-28-2013 01:19 PM

Copied over from the Infertility One Thread... I have two Ovidrel triggers in my fridge, plus I ordered more Clomid and Progesterone. I am seriously considering being done after two "all out" cycles using those supplies. After almost 8 years without success, and the fact that I will be 44 soon, I need to be realistic. I need to move on. I need to stop stressing out over donors. I would like to date, too. I honestly wonder if all of the work I have put into conception has soured me against parenthood. Sigh.

KarinaNYC 02-28-2013 09:02 PM

Hugs....I can empathize completely. It can feel very discouraging and isolating. I do want to let go of this desire time and time again. I just want to live & enjoy life without having this cloud hang over me. I also don't know if I'll ever parent and it's a difficult realization to face.
Originally Posted by Stevi View Post

Copied over from the Infertility One Thread... I have two Ovidrel triggers in my fridge, plus I ordered more Clomid and Progesterone. I am seriously considering being done after two "all out" cycles using those supplies. After almost 8 years without success, and the fact that I will be 44 soon, I need to be realistic. I need to move on. I need to stop stressing out over donors. I would like to date, too. I honestly wonder if all of the work I have put into conception has soured me against parenthood. Sigh.

gumblossom 03-01-2013 01:46 AM

Karina and Stevi - so sorry to hear you are feeling discouraged, I really do understand.


I am fully expecting AF in  a couple of days after another cycle where I had strong symptoms. It is really screwing with my head!dizzy.gif

I've had three days of negative tests,and don't expect a positive anytime soon. I feel annoyed that I've been trying for so long and apart from loss, there's not been the joy I thought I would have. I truly expected by age 45 I would be done with all this,and yet, here I am,at 46 and 4 months still trying.


It would be so freeing to wipe my hands of the rollercoaster ttc ride, but I actually find I'm stuck in this cycle of wishing,hoping,praying that I will be one of the 1% that actually have a take home baby at this age.


I think having regular cycles, where I seem to be ovulating every month (I'm charting) has given me a false sense of hope too. But how can I be sure that I am ovulating?  Medical intervention is out of the question because my DH is not fully on board (he's of the opinion that it probably won't happen, so there's no need for contraception rather than being supportive of actually timing sex etc...). I bought some clomid online from Canada because my doctor here wouldn't prescribe it (I'm too old), but I feel worried that if I take it it could have a detrimental affect on my fertility. SO instead I've been trying red clover isoflavones (which seem to give me good EWCM).


So, I don't know wht to do next. I'm feeling like I should let go of all the supplements and see what happens. But then again, what if they actually may help?


I am sorry to be complaining: I do have children already and I know my situation is not nearly as difficult as those of you without children.


I wish you all the best,whatever you do.

Shell77 03-01-2013 06:16 PM

Have ya'll given any thought to using a donated embryo?

Stevi 03-01-2013 07:24 PM

Shell77... I can afford to care for a child, but I cannot afford any major fertility treatments.

Shell77 03-02-2013 08:22 PM

Ohhh I understand that ... Ugh trust me .... after spending 20,000.00 on a FAILED ivf I understand.... embryo doation usually only cost 6000.00 TOTAL if you go to a RE and they have some available. Well at least here in Texas.

cldeshano 03-07-2013 11:23 AM

I joined the old thread pretty late in the game, but I'd like to join this one. We have one son who is a bit more than 2, and we'd like to have a second child. I'm 41 and had a miscarriage in January. I had two miscarriages before our son was born, so three total. 


I'm not sure that we'll actively try this month. I've had one full cycle since the miscarriage, and we may sit out this one, too. I think I could use the time/space, too, to make a little more peace with my body. But we also probably won't actively avoid conceiving, and I think we'll start up again with the next cycle. 

gumblossom 03-20-2013 03:34 PM

Hi cldeshano and welcome to the new thread.

It is a slow moving thread, not much happening. The old threads (I've been ttc for a really long time and have been on a few of them) seemed to have more happening.


I am in the tww yet again. I won't be testing for about a week, and I am trying to remain objective and not get my hopes up like I do most months only to have them come crashing down.


I have kept taking my supplements, but not as many as before. I decided against the clomid.I really don't want to mess with the fertility I already have and I have read that taking clomid when you already ovulate on your own will not improve your chances of pregnancy.


I hope everyone on the thread is doing well.

tenzinsmama 03-20-2013 06:08 PM

Gumblossom, you are right, it is slow-moving thread, but it's an important one! Good luck for this next week. I understand what you are saying about trying to remain objective. The cycle of hope and despair that we sometimes find ourselves in--(well, it can even be every time we see that bfn or AF, but to different degrees. For me it depends on what else is happening in my life-- it can be tough. I'm due to test in a couple of days. I'm scared about getting a bfn, but then I'm also scared of what I would do if it was a bfp! I'd have three kids really close together in age... My DH says sometimes we are insane for even trying, yet he still goes along with things... lol. Take care!


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