Mamablue - I got gooseys from your 'I'm happy' comment - it doesn't get much better than that btw how thick is too thick re lining?
Oxford - I answered lots on the other thread, but I'm thinking you are looking great for this month - I'm so glad you got monitored this month, somehow it takes the stress off knowing someone else is doing the thinking part for you.
Also in case you need to go there in the future, I'm seriously not finding this ivf cycle any worse than the iui, I'm not taking letrozole which was a huge mood mangler... Just saying it's not as bad as I expected... I'm just hoping all 12 ripen, and that at least half fertilize...
Wengrin - let us know when you do...
Everyone else - how's the babies going? Please keep us updated, we do care
My mom was diagnosed with breast cancer today. I'm totally in shock. We don't really know more than that yet.
Girl absolutely in love with boy and our DD (11/06), DS1 (08/11) and DS2 (brand new!)
Wenegrin- yay for the doctors appointment! Fingers crossed, I'm excited for you.
Oxford- awesome on the follies!
Chuord- that's awesome that the ivf isn't as horrible as it's thought to be ! We're still so green in this whole fertility front that the thought of it scares me still.
Afm it's cd11 and I've got my US on Friday. I haven't really felt any cramping or ovulation symptoms except my husband has mentioned a few times that I'm being a real "joy" to be around but I'm trying to keep it in check, sometimes it feels like I use up all my happy with my kids at work though so he tends to get grumpy me. I'm not expecting too much on Friday because I haven't noticed a real difference but it might just be a defense tactic I've built up as well. I'm hoping they'll do the dye test soon because it's the only thing we haven't looked at to get answers about what's wrong with me. It's so frustrating to hear time and time again "your blood work looks great, all of your levels are fine" and it seems kind of sick to want an answer of "we found this problem" but at least it's an answer. It's also wearing on me that working in an elementary school your business gets around pretty quick so the "reassuring" little "just relax", "it will happen if it's supposed to", "my (insert relation here) had the same thing and when they gave up it happened" comments along with the recommendations of "things that worked for us" from geritol to online pharmacies for cheaper meds is about to make form a twitch.
There's that clomid rage I guess.... sorry to vent but I don't have anyone outside of my husband to talk to about this and it makes him too sad. I honestly almost erased that diatribe half way through but I figure you ladies get it and the cathartic release is kind of nice! I'm putting myself to bed now, night all!
I know those well-meaning school marms that want to say the right thing but need to just shut their mouths....no one that struggles w/ ttc wants to hear any of that stuff. Especially a woman on Clomid!! Lol....you should try growling at one of them next time and then play it off and say, "oh, my I am so tired" and pretend it was a yawn. Maybe it might send a message to the others. Since you know that would spread like wildfire too. I think that would be hysterical. "Was that a growl?!! I swear she growled at me....but then she seemed to be yawning...." That would give them something to be busy-bodies about for a day or two. Hugs to you...I know this is tough when it is displayed publicly. Hopefully you will have your BFP and healthy pregnancy very soon. Take care.
Wengrin- that must be so tough trying to remember if the yucky feeling actually was pregnancy. I'm so pleased that your test is today, hopefully tomorrow we will have something to celebrate. I'm thinking of you. Sorry to hear your mums story and great that she pulled through :-)
Chuord- glad the meds are ok, I am watching your story closely! I hope you have finally reached the peak of your journey and this is your month. It will be so interesting getting more data on your eggs and what actually happens! Hope it is your month.
Lindscott- clomid is very powerful and it is going to batter you emotionally. If you are putting up with feeling that way, the least DH can do is be patient with you. Tell him to button up and be pleased he's not pumped up with mega hormones!!!
As for your advice giving friends, yuk. I think you should take wengrin's advice to growl, but then instead of yawning...... BITE THEM!!!!
People have no right to make judgements about something they know nothing about. If they did know anything they would not say such stupid things. This is a tough draining journey and we need support and patience not patronising advice. Just relax and not think about it and the it will happen? Oh great, I hadn't thought of that, I will do that right away. Idiots!!!! Sometimes women with children who got them with no problems can be so patronising. Hang in there lovely. Tell them where to go. They will stop with their advice and give you some space.
You have our full support. Please feel free to vent here whenever you like. Particularly on the atom bomb off clomid!! It is your right and you deserve it :-)
Scjp- sorry to hear about the pcos. Me too. It's really upsetting when you first get the diagnosis. But like you said at least you know what is wrong and can do something about it. If you can fix your hormone levels, there is no reason you shouldn't fall pregnant quickly. Have you been given any drugs? I take metformin and have changed my diet (no sugar, low carbs, high protein, high fibre, lots of vegetables). There are some great forums and diet info on doctor google. I hope this will be a new start for you :-)
No new news over here. Cd 13 and expecting o tomorrow. We are hitting every other day Bd so all cool this month.
Have a good day everyone.
I went to have bloodwork this morning. I took another test of the same kind that I took on Monday. It was definitely darker. I don't know what the blood results will be, but I felt better seeing that. These cramps are just really painful. They are more like pre-period cramps than uterine cramping. It feels like my ovaries are throbbing and it goes down into my back on each side. Very painful. I will mention it to the nurse when they call with my results. I started to wonder about ectopic....but I don't know. They'll do a scan on me sometime next week she said if my levels are rising. That will tell if it's in the right place.
Mares- Big hugs to you. Hope your mom is handling this as well as she can.
Mamablue- that must be frightening to have all of the women on your mother's side have had cancer. My moms sister had it as well, so I had the BRAC genetic testing, which was negative. Were your mom/aunts older in age when they got it?
I really despise cancer. It just stinks.
Hope everyone is well. Take care. I will update as soon as I hear from the doctor.
Lindscott - ditto again, vent away - we all do lol lucky for those ladies that Wengrin and Oxford don't live near you I can see them patrolling like your bodyguards with their 'I'll rip your arm of with my teeth' look on their faces
Wengrin - waiting for those results.... Did you tick urgent?
Afm - growing eggs lol... Glad that my more relaxed journey is filling you with confidence lindscott and Oxford - the hormonal side really is easier during the growing. Btw I'm also taking a magnesium supplement morning and night - the great relaxer, and it really helps!
Yes I guess it's a good thing we don't live near you, Lindscott! Between Oxford and myself, we would be ready to bite someone's head off for those silly unthoughtful comments (literally, lol).
Faith- so sorry to hear that you have suffered BC in your family too. It is just way too common now. I feel that it is linked to our diet or environment somehow. But I am no scientist or doctor, of course. Hugs to your Mom....mine suffers from the neuropathy as well and she was in so much pain recently she finally started Lyrica and it has been a lifesaver.
Chuord keep cooking those good eggs!! Yes I did call and get in to the doctor today so I should have bloodwork results tomorrow (hopefully).
In the not ttc world, we got our kids a trampoline...it's the springless kind that is supposed to be the safest out there. We bought it used from a neighbor. She bought it for $1,500 a few years ago so we got it for $400. The kids have had a ball. My DD is practicing her gymnastics...so that has been really fun for them. It has a huge net that goes all the way around for protection. And they're only allowed to jump one at a time. Although when we were little we had a trampoline and 4 of us would jump at once...double bounce each other. We never broke a bone, but for the grace of God I'm sure....that could have been a disaster. We know better now about safety. So that's our rule. they're really loving it though. 😊
Thank you all so much for the support, kind words and prayers. I am so sorry that so many have gone through this in their family, but very thankful for all the compassion and knowledge you have. Today we got the information that it is Stage 2 based on the size. "Grade 2/3, Moderately Differentiated, Invasive Ductal Carcinoma, Estrogen and Progesterone Receptive (98.5% and 75.5% respectively) and the Proliferative Rate is Intermediate - 14%" So I'm just working on trying to figure out what all that means. Luckily I'm a pretty good researcher. It is my mom, who I'm currently living with. I'm so thankful we're here and not in California. She is having trouble eating and I've been able to tempt her with some comfort food and she is obviously really relishing her time with the kids. Her lumpectomy will be the 19th, which seems like a long time to wait. Chourd, great idea with the pillow! I'm going to take the kids to the fabric store tomorrow to pick out some special fabric.
I'm really enjoying reading where everyone is at - it seems like there's a lot of hopeful stuff going on! That's great. Wengrin, I am glad you are getting results tomorrow. Hopefully they will ease your mind and let you really enjoy your weekend. The trampoline sounds awesome! I used to have so much fun on my friend's. Chourd and Oxford - if you aren't sick of thinking about it, would you be willing to write up just a little blurb for dummies for me about what you are going through/where you are? I have been following along and kind of get it, but sometimes I feel a bit lost. Nothing huge, I just wish I knew better what you are going through. I don't completely understand the procedures. Mamablue, how scary to have breast cancer be so prevalent in your family. I'm sorry to hear that. Thank you again to everyone (Faith, Lindscott and Chrissy, too).
AFM - Some happy news, I think we have picked a name for the baby! We had already decided on Arthur Edward for a boy (Edward is my dad's middle name and also the name of a family friend who died) and for a girl we were thinking Evangeline or Adelaide, but neither really felt right although I love them. But I was driving and the name Daisy just popped into my head and has refused to leave. I was shocked that DH actually likes it! So I think her name is Daisy. For the middle name we were thinking Helen, after Mark's aunt, but now I am thinking we will probably give her my mom's middle name, which is Clare. Daisy Clare. Or we could do Daisy Ann Clare (Ann is my mom's first name, but I had never planned on using it because it is also my middle name). What do you think? We have the anatomy scan on Monday, which I am excited for. We are still planning on waiting for the birth to find out the gender for sure, but I feel pretty sure it's a girl. I would be thrilled, but surprised, if it was a boy.
The house we made an offer on - the people decided to sell, but the inspection came back with a bad roof and needing new insulation under the house. Lots and lots of other little things, but those were the big ones. So we are trying to negotiate with that. I'm nervous. Hoping for the best. The couple seems very nice and very overwhelmed. I am hoping we can work with them and make it a win-win.
Girl absolutely in love with boy and our DD (11/06), DS1 (08/11) and DS2 (brand new!)
By the way I LOVE the name Daisy. I named my favorite dog Daisy (she was the most beautiful German Shephard and she took care of us growing up...she would sleep right next to my bed and take me to the bathroom at night when I was scared...she was seriously the sweetest dog ever), and I have always loved that name. Our cat had kittens when we were little and Daisy would sneak in and pick up one of her kittens and gently bring it out into the living room with the kitten lying across her big paws and she would just lick and clean the little kitty.....you could tell she wanted to be a mama! That cat would come in hissing and snatch her kitten back. Daisy would just sit there looking sad. She was spayed when we adopted her, so she never got to have a litter of puppies. Funny how even animals have that instinct and desire to have babies. Sorry for the random dog story but I just love the name Daisy. I think Daisy Clare is beautiful. Or Daisy Ann Clare. Lovely name...
It sounds like this house could be great for you guys but if it needs the work done then hopefully the couple will be willing to negotiate with you. I'm sure they have a lot of emotions about leaving, so that must be tough for them. Glad they're working with you though and it isn't as bad as originally thought (hanging up on your realtor and saying they weren't going to sell).
Hope everyone is having a great day. Take care!
Hope all is well with everyone!
Pain yesterday in my left side
Mares - I love Daisy Ann Clare and Daisy Clare. My oldest is Violet and people always told us to name our second daughter Daisy. lol. We didn't. Also, I agree with Wengrin, the fact that her docs are doing a lumpectomy and not a mastectomy is a good sign. When my mom was diagnosed, they wanted her in for a mastectomy within the week. My aunt, too. In fact, my aunt just had a mastectomy on the other side two weeks ago, because her specific cancer made her at risk for it appearing bi-laterally later. Recovery from a lumpectomy will be much quicker for your mom, I've had three non-cancerous tumors removed with one lumpectomy surgery and I was back to my old self very quickly. That's a plus, especially if she will be starting chemo and/or radiation.
Lindscott - I'm glad you are seeing some follicle action! Are they going to continue to monitor you via ultrasound until after they confirm your ovulation occurred?
Chourd - How are your ovaries feeling? Are you feeling ready to pop? Any estimates on a retrieval date?
Oxford - I know you're busy in the BD season. Thinking of you! Catch those eggs!
AFM - My cold is gone and I'm going to get back on the treadmill for the first time since I got sick. Yay! Plus it's raining here in San Diego! This is a huge deal. On track for the driest year recorded. Today is the last day of the rainfall year, and maybe our numbers will go up today - it's our last 24 hours to make it!
Eta: removed rainfall totals they were wrong, but still on track for the driest year.
Mares - wow I never knew that much info for my mums... I know hers was the easiest to fix (in theory so probably stage 1 - however we think a couple of cancer cells escaped during the biopsy as she had to have the second lymph node op and also the full chemo before radiation (first surgery was the lumpectomy) the cushion size she requested was about 5" by 8"...maybe google 'breast cancer pillows to double check... I'd make two, mum used hers for months (her scar took ages to settle) and the chemo etc makes them very sweaty... Have faith that the docs will give her the best treatment for her, and just take it a day at a time - that's all you need to be strong for her - just one day at a time xxx
Hugs to everyone who's been through this, there's something innately terrifying about our mums having Bc.
Wengrin - awesome beta!!!what day was it? Lol maybe it's twins
Sorry off to follie check now!
Mamablue- I wonder if that is the cause for my cramping. Wouldn't my progesterone be higher though than it was (I think 25?). Hmmm....one other thing is I was taking maca root prior to getting pregnant. I stopped taking it with the last pregnancy but this time I decided maybe I will take it, because I have read more and more that it is safe to take when pregnant. It's a hormone adaptogen so maybe it is stimulating my progesterone in addition to the Prometrium....I don't know. I will ask my doctor about it. It sounded like they were going to try to get me in for a very early u/s next week.
Lindscott- yay for good follies!!!! Good luck and hope you get a strong O!
scjp- I don't know about the EWCM. Usually that's a predictor but you can't be sure unless you are temping also, or using OPK's. Have you considered using the opk test strips? Sorry I wish I could be more help.
Chuord- your story of your camping guide made me laugh out loud. That's hysterical 😝
Oxford how are you? I have been meaning to check on you. I have been overwhelmed this week trying to catch up on things at home and catch up on sleep. Ugh. Hubby works this weekend too and has been home late every night this week. (Legitimately....he has some home improvement projects he has worked on for neighbors to make extra income) but it's so hard because he leaves at 6:00 Am and sometimes isn't home until 7:30 or so. I know it's hard on him too, but I really need him home more to give me a break. We are going to have to find some middle ground. I did contact the housekeeping lady that we used in December and she is coming Wednesday. That is a huge relief. It will take me the weekend just to sort, launder, fold and out away the pile up of clothes. With me being out of town every weekend and hubby not doing much at home, it has made it really tough. So the housekeeper will help solve the problem temporarily. I do want to find a way to work this out together- for him to help out more when he is here, and maybe say no to smaller jobs. We have to do something. It's a tough spot because we are a one-income family. I know he is working hard to support us. So I do feel bad for him.
Sorry back to Oxford I have wondered how your observed cycle is going? You had some promising EWCM right?? That's great because I know you said it was scant before. Maybe the hormones are adjusting to he Clomid now? Is this still BD season? Hope you two are enjoying each other and having a great beginning of the weekend. Take care my friend. ☺️
Hope everyone else is doing well. Take care!
Hurray Chuord!! Sounds like those eggies are cooperating
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