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Ten eggs is awesome, Oxford! Rest up and feel better soon!

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Congrats Oxford!! Be really gentle with yourself! I gound their advice about protein rich food and greens was good, whenever I felt better and deviated I felt worse (still happening this time too)
Fx for good fertilisation!
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Of the 10 they retrieved, 5 were mature and none have fertilised. I'm devastated and so disappointed. I thought this was finally our chance. I'm gutted. :-(
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Oh no, Oxford! Is there still a chance for fertilization to happen or is it all over for this round? Things were sounding so positive, I am so sorry if you had to go through all that for nought this cycle. I understand how devastated you must feel but please don't let this keep you down-- your time is coming, I just know it!

PrimalJoy- Hooray for baby acrobatics! I hope the therapist proves to be a great help to DS. After a scare like that it may take some time for him to find some peace around it but the resiliency of children never ceases to amaze me.

Wengrin- Glad to hear your morning sickness is finally easing up some. I never got more than quesy with either of my pregnancies, and I hate vomiting, so I can't even imagine being that sick for almost 5 months, you are a trooper! I loved the bump pics! You are looking very pregnant. With DS I was just about 5 months along on New Year's Eve and wore a super tight slinky dress to a party to show off my itty-bitty bump and no one could tell that I was pregnant. I am actually really looking forward to showing more quickly next time.

choud- Bummer that you are out this cycle, but I hope you are finding fabulous ways to spend your time off. Fx that all goes well next cycle!

mamaBlue- Glad you are still feeling up to some serious hard work! Shoveling sounds rewarding, what's the concrete for? Mopping, on the other hand, ugh, floors are my least favorite chore... Hope you are using the swollen legs/feet to get some awesome rubs from DH.

jennsies- Welcome! I've never heard of WomanCode, what does it suggest for correcting anovulation? My last cycle was anovulatory and this time around my post-O temps while obviously bi-phasic are not as high as past cycles. It's got me a little freaked out but I'm adding maca back into my diet and probably trying a juice cleanse next cycle pre-O to see if that straightens things out again. Sounds like you have a very positive attitude toward the 2WW this time around. Have you tested yet, you must be close now, right?

lindscott- I'm glad all seems to be going according to plan. How did the scan go?

mareseatoats- Good to hear that you are settling into the new place. I love unpacking in a new home. And a cabin in the woods by a lake sounds gorgeous! Did the chickens make it to you yet? What kind do you have? Our flock got considerably thinned this past year by a fox (I spotted behind the barn), eagles/owls (we suspect), and even a puppy that my Mom had considered adopting last year (they are totally free-range), so we are looking to get some more this spring. The pictures were beautiful, I love the dress and your DD looks so sweet!

AFM- Not too hopeful this month since I am 10 or 11dpo and still seeing some pretty low post-O temps. But at least I can see that I ovulated this month. I am gonna try to do some gentle cleansing over the next couple of weeks- lemon water, juicing, skipping my nightly glass of wine ... My yoga practice has been spotty at best and I really want to get back into doing it more regularly. And my acupuncturist should be back from China next week so I am looking forward to seeing him again. I won't test this cycle unless AF gets really late.
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Oh Oxford, I am so sorry to hear that. I can feel the sadness in your words, and my heart breaks for you. (((Here is a big hug from me.))) I hate the unpredictable highs and lows that infertility throws at us. I hate today's low. But there are better times ahead. You are not out of options. You are not out of time. You are healthy and strong, and your journey does have a happy ending.

Let's look ahead to the future. The future has fresh opportunities for you and Mr. Oxford. Has your specialist told you what they would like to do next cycle? You are an excellent egg grower, so perhaps they want to do ICSI?
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oxford, so sorry to hear that news. My heart breaks for you. Sending you good thoughts.

MsBe- you should definitely read the book, it says tons about correcting any sort of hormonal imbalance you might have. What to give up that may be interfering with hormones (dairy, foods that cause blood sugar wackiness, certain household products). It talks about what kinds of foods and exercises to do in each phase of your cycle to work with your natural hormones instead of against them. It's really interesting!

AFM- the new website isn't working well with my phone, so I haven't been able to post much this week. This cycle was a bust, started my period 3 days ago after a 38 day cycle! My longest cycle. I really thought I might be pregnant, so I was pretty disappointed. BUT I did learn something that might have been causing me problems. On another site, I came across some information that B6 lowers your estrogen and can cause not only delayed ovulation and long cycles, but also anovulatory cycles. I was SO mad because I've been taking a B complex in addition to my prenatal. I started taking it in January, and all my cycles since then have either been really long or I can't tell if I even ovulated. I think I've been sabotaging myself for months!!! I can't believe I never heard that before. So I did some online research and came across post after post of women on fertility sites saying that B6 totally messed up their ovulation and cycles. I decided to stop all my supplements for a week to get some of that B outta my system and then I'll start back up on my prenatal and D3 (which I'm low), and that's it! No more taking anything without knowing for sure I need it. So word to the wise, watch that B6 if you're having any issues with anovulation or delayed ovulation. Prenatals have plenty of B vitamins and any extra B can lower your estrogen enough where it either won't build up enough to help trigger O or it will take a super long time to build up enough. I'll be super curious to see what happens with my cycles now that I'm off of it. In other news, I've lost 8 lbs this month and am pretty happy about that. I've been eating super clean. No soy, dairy, wheat, sugar. No processed foods. I've been making everything from scratch for the most part. I feel really good and want to be in the healthiest place I can be for pregnancy. So, I'm feeling pretty good, and will feel even better once AF has left town.

It's a beautiful day in the northwest today, so I'm going to go and try and get some yard work or something done. Hope you all are having a lovely weekend!
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Oxford, I'm so sorry to hear that. You must be so discouraged. We're here for you however you need to vent/process as you move forward.
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Oxford - super hugs!!!! Let yourself be upset, enjoy lots of hugs from dh and trust me in a little bit of time you'll be able to start thinking about moving forward. It really sucks having such a bad result... I'm with mamablue, did they try any ICSI last time? We did half and half the first time. That's where they chose the sperm and hand fertilize. The one up to this is maybe they've found the reason it hasn't been working for you, which means they can fix it. Don't think about it now - just let yourself mourn and heal. Xxx
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Oxford I am heartbroken for you...does this mean that the 5 mature eggs will not fertilize? I'm so sorry you've been through such an ordeal. What do they suggest next? Wait and try again? Big hugs for you. I have been trying since Friday to log into mothering from my iPhone like I normally do and I can't access the site to post or reply to messages!! I finally installed tapatalk app and that allowed me in but I can't PM or get into my inbox. This new site setup is frustrating me. Anyway I just wanted to let you know you have been on my mind all weekend and I was trying to log in to check in with you and see how you were feeling. So sorry to hear that the retrieval wasn't what you had hoped....I know how much you wanted this and hoped that this was the break that was finally going to bring you the baby you and hubby want so much. :-(

Hi to everyone! I have my mom in town and trying to spend time with her, and having trouble accessing this site is driving me up the wall! It used to be so much easier. I need a user manual!

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Oxford - how are you doing? Know we're here if we can help at all...
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Hope everybody is doing well. Oxford, you are on my mind. Wishing you calming and comforting thoughts.

AFM - Not much to report. Cruising along and looking forward to school letting out for the summer.
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Still frustrated as I can't access my usual stuff using tapatalk. Ugh...

Just wanted to let you know, Oxford you are on my mind and I wish there was something I could do or say from across the ocean to give you some encouragement or help ease the pain you must be feeling. I know this must be an awful feeling, going through so much and subjecting yourself to all the poking and prodding and procedures only to get a bad report. Hopefully someday you can tell your son or daughter how much you wanted them and how much you went through to conceive them! I do have friends who went through similar (seemingly endless) battles and finally got their breakthrough. I am praying that happens for you soon. xxxx Take good care


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Also struggling with the new platform, but wanted to let you know how often I am thinking of you, Oxford. Sending you lots of love.

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Hello,

Thank you all for your kind thoughts and good wishes, you touch my heart. It has been a tough few days and I so appreciate your support. We were back at the hospital today to review what happened. Largely, they don't know! They are pretty confident that icsi would work for us- same process as IVF but they inject the sperm into the egg. So we are going to have a few months of rest to let my body recover and then try again. Unfortunately our NHS funding has run out now so we will have to pay next time. I am researching whether to stay at the same hospital or move somewhere with a higher success rate. It's so hard to know what the stats actually show and it feels like a big decision. DH has been a wonderful support and we have been sticking together.

Ladies having difficulty with the new site, try logging in on the box in the menu on the left hand side and tick the box that doesn't have any writing, it keeps you logged in. I have just left the window open on my phone so I don't have to keep messing about.

Wengrin- thanks for your care! You are lovely. I am feeling it across the sea. How are you feeling and how are your lovely kids?

Chuord- thanks for your hugs and thoughts. have you had fun with your parents? Are you ready or your new cycle yet? Are you trying IVF again or having a break for your body?

Mamablue- you are a sweetie, thank you. It is indeed a long journey and I am inspired by the way you kept going until your BFP. I hope I can too. I love hearing your chilled posts, you sound like a contented lady at the moment :-)

Mares- thanks for your good wishes. That's thoughtful with everything you've got on your plate at the moment. Does your house feel like home now? Are you loving having DH back full time?

This group is such a great place to keep sane!
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Glad you two are sticking together and getting through it Oxford... Re changing hospitals - my best thought is research and then go with your instinct.
I'm allowed to stop the blood thinner injections (two days early - lol but I asked if I could) I'm still on the synarel as a suppressant, my ovaries are still tender but a lot less swollen.. Re next month no idea until AF and a scan, however I suspect a months rest will be required.
So given that you two are always traveling where are you going to go this next month?
Wengrin - it's so lovely you're getting over the nausea and are back with us
Mares - I'm with Oxford, how's the house going?
Primal - how are you and the family doing?
Mamablue - how is your swelling legs? Hope they've settled a bit.
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Great news chuord on stopping the thinners, that must be a relief? I hope you enjoy your month of rest and do something nice.

Primal- how are you and how is your DS? Are things returning to normal?

Over here we finally had some good news for a change! The NHS are going to find another round of treatment for us! Normally they will only pay for one an then you have to find yourself, but because we didn't make it to transfer they are going to pay for another. Nice to have some good news and that will help us financially. I am back at work today but have a total absence of motivation!!!!
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Oxford, that is great news! It must be such a relief to your wallet.
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That is great news, Oxford! I'm crossing my fingers for you that ICSI is your ticket! Wonderful that you are getting to go ahead and get a full cycle paid for.

AFM -- I'm doing good overall. The summer heat is not fun, and I am starting to deal with more random tiredness than I have lately, but I think that's just the nature of where I am. I'll be 32 weeks on Monday, and definitely getting nesting urges. We are working on getting what gear we need used (DD broke everything we had with her), and getting the house in order. DH put together the toddler bed, and DD is sleeping there now. We won't need the crib right away, since the baby will stay in the room with us, but DD was climbing out of bed every day, so it was time. My coworkers gave me a shower at work today, which was very nice! I got some items I'll use, plus some gift certificates that I'll definitely use.

I'm having a lot of fun with our garden. The first plot grew so well that we asked for, and got, a second one. DH tilled it for me last night, and we'll plant it this weekend. We're now in the midst of negotiating with each other what we'll plant. Surprisingly controversial!
How's everyone else doing?

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Oh, I forgot. Oxford, you asked about my DS. He's been at his dad's this week, but is overall doing okay. His school play is next week, so I think he's pretty focused on that. My husband took him to the pool a few times last week, and he did fine with that, so that's good! We're going to get him some swimming lessons over the summer, too, to hopefully help with both confidence and safety.

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Oxford that is a relief I am sure! Whew...thank goodness you will have another shot at this and have the funding to cover it instead of out-of-pocket. Glad to hear that!

Primal isn't it ironic that nature sends you a dose of extreme fatigue along with nesting urges at around the same time?? I know that feeling....so tired, so much to do, I ended up being bossy with hubby and he did a lot of it. Glad to hear your DS is doing a bit better and you have swimming lessons for him this summer. Do you find that the week on/ week off alternating causes any issues? I may have asked you that...probably have. We do that schedule during summertime and DD runs wild with no rules at her dads and we have a hard time when she comes home.

I am doing okay...my mom is here for the week which is nice. She can't do much to help but she does play with the kids a bit so that helps. I am over the sickness- thank goodness. Now I am starting to get uncomfortable because I had an umbilical hernia from last time and severe Diastasis Recti which allows my belly to really bulge out and it's painful. I am going to find a support garment... It's only going to get worse! I'm 19 weeks on Sunday.

Hope everyone is doing well.
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Hey Primal, is it okay that I am glad that I'm not the only one with a few aches and fatigue? Haha! Overall I'm doing great but my feet are poufy and they kinda hurt because of it. I'm glad to hear that your son is no worse for wear at the pool. Is he in the school play, and if so, is he looking forward to it? I'm sure he's eager for summer to start. My girls are almost done for the year, too, but they are working themselves to the bone finishing up their large end of the year research reports and presentations. Ugg. Hopefully your son has escaped the stress of a end of the year project. I hate those things.

Wengrin - Great to hear from you! I'm so stoked that your morning sickness is gone! Woooooohoooo! At last! I'm so sorry that your tummy muscles are giving you trouble. I do hear that support garments work well. Did you need them last time?

Chourd and Oxford - Hi to you two girls on other continents!

Chourd - Are you getting close to CD1? Do you know your protocol for the next round? I'm looking forward to cheering you and your eggies on!

Oxford - Do you get to stim next cycle or do they recommend a rest cycle? I hear that some docs require rest, and others don't. Either way, I hope you make some time for yourself to get some pampering in. You have enduring a lot lately, and you deserve some spoiling time.

AFM - I'm starting to outgrow the belly space of my maternity clothes. Yikes! Also, my SIL is planning a baby shower for me, which is very nice of her and quite unexpected. Since this is babe number 5, I really was not seeing the need for it. She wants to do a small luncheon or go out to a posh dessert place, which sounds like a nice way to celebrate without a lot of hullabaloo. And in lieu of gifts, she is thinking of organizing a meal train after the birth. That's the best gift we could ever get!
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Primal - sounds like things are a nice but tiring normal at your place - must be nice not to have major stress for a space. Glad that your co workers cared enough to give you a shower, it's nice to celebrate.

Wengrin - ouch! That sounds sore. Homie the support garment helps and that you get a bit of relief with your mum there!
Mamablue - that type of baby shower sounds great, especially the good train! Hmm I've never had a shower or hens night - my choice, I wasn't interested in the surprise factor. I doubt very much is do a baby shower either - I have probably 5 friends in this state lol the rest are all over the country and world lol
No idea about this next month, think it will be rest though...
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Hello ladies,

Lovely to read all the updates. Those babies are growing nicely now :-)

I'm feeling really down and tearful today, I cried all over DH. My hormones are all over the place after the IVF, I just want my period to land now. My best friend had a baby last night, I'm so pleased for her, and now I want the same for us. It seems so cruel that she's got pregnant and ha a baby all within the time we have been trying. Oh I'm not much use today :-( suffering.
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I'm so sorry Oxford. This process really is so emotionally wrenching. Before we started TTC, I could have never imagined what a heart breaking roller coaster ride this would be. I don't know if I've gone one cycle of TTC where I haven't cried my eyes out. Don't be too hard on yourself and let yourself be sad today.




I just hold on to the idea that someday we'll get to tell our kids how much we wanted them and how hard we worked to bring them to us. (((hugs)))
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Oxford -- It is incredibly unfair. There's not much rhyme and reason to who is able to get pregnant when; your grief and frustration are entirely understandable. I am hoping so hard for you and all the other ladies who are still waiting for your babies. I have so much admiration for your determination and stamina in this process. I can't imagine how difficult it is.

Many hugs to you and your hubby right now.

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Great. It just gets worse. I had two days off work last week with everything that happened. Today my director says that I shouldn't take time off for IVF because it is something I'm choosing to do!!!!! I'm furious.
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Wow Oxford, I'd be furious as well. I'm not sure how time off works there, but I would assume it's none of their business why you take time off. Maybe just don't tell them? I'm sorry, it sucks when employers don't seem to give a crap about their employees. If you are getting your job done and earned your time off that should be the end of story.
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Oxford, I have words to say about what your employer is doing that I'm not allowed to say in this forum.

I don't know how it works in the UK; here in the US I would file for intermittent FMLA (Family Medical Leave Act) protection to stop that harassment. Your treatments aren't a choice you had hoped to have to make, but they are a choice you have every right to make. People need to wake up and be more supportive of the fact that different people take different paths to building their families.
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Oh, Oxford. I'm so sorry. I really can't imagine how you must be feeling. Even from this side of the screen it feels so desperately unfair for you and Chourd, and our other ladies still waiting for their babies. Not a day goes by that I don't think of you both and hope your little ones are just around the corner. Sending big hugs for you today.

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Hello ladies,

Thank you for your encouragement, what a fab group of friends :-)

Chuord- is it your birthday this week or next? Happy birthday! Hope DH spoils you.

Mares- hoes the house going? Lovely to be back as a family?

Jenn- how are you doing? What have you been up to?

Mamablue- have the swollen ankles settled down? I hope you are blooming.

Primal- summer holidays sound like a lot of change at your house with DS back and forth. I hope your baby preparations are coming on well? Thanks for your advice, I have made a complaint at work and I have a follow up meeting this afternoon.

Wengrin- how are you? Can you get into your message at the moment? I hope thibgs are ok with dd and shaing care this summer, step families are fundamentally complicated, you are doing a great job :-)
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