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Oh booooooo. Sorry about the temp and probable AF Ocean. You are a patient woman. I do think Clomid is calling me. It's true. I am already looking up twins on the internet. I will probably quit Vitex at ovulation this month.
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Ocean I'm so sorry that AF is about to show, I was so sure this was it for you. Hugs coming your way!!!
Oh I have some other info for those of you considering clomid...SOY is just like Clomid (estragen) I have been doing some reading on it...you can take it on the same days you would take clomid cd 1-5, 2-6, 3-7 etc. and take like 120mg of it on those days. Also after the last day (do this even when taking clomid Lily) start taking regular Mucinex it has 600mg of the ingredient (starts with a G) that helps with CM since clomid/soy can create "hostile" CM and/or dry you up. Ok do that every day til O, after your 100% sure that you have already O'd start taking an 81mg baby aspirin (you know the ones our parents gave us 30 years ago) every day til AF or til your like 6 weeks pregnant. reason for this...clomid/soy also can thin out your uterine lining, and the baby aspirin can help make it full again, and reduce the risk of losing the baby due to being unable to implant. whheeewww, ok, GOOD LUCK

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Oh booooooo. Sorry about the temp and probable AF Ocean. You are a patient woman. I do think Clomid is calling me. It's true. I am already looking up twins on the internet. I will probably quit Vitex at ovulation this month.

OH BTW, twins are what we are hoping for too, since I suck at being pregnant, but we want 2 more...hehe...lets get twins together...

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Oceanmommy- below coverline. I was thinking such good things for you mama.

Lilyflower-I think you gut is right. If you aren't sure you have PCOSyndrome...meaning all the other symptoms that come with PCOS and not just cysts, the metformin is not the answer. (although nausea is very common). I'd take yourself off vitex now. You can't take them together and if the plan is to go on clomid next cycle, I'd probably just let my body have a break between things. The clomid should help give you a much more predictable O time and that will give you shorter cycles. We did get pregnant on our second cycle of clomid. (although we also did acupuncture that cycle) I didn't notice any less CM, but I was drinking green tea daily. I've read that clomid can make the CM more acidic and was basically obsessed about the possibility that I had plenty of CM but that it might be killing the sperm. :
Let's see, what else? Clomid was covered 50% for me and it cost me $10 a cycle. Which is less than I was paying for OPKs each cycle...
Your body can do this! I know its around the corner.
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Yay! This is making me feel very optimistic and hopeful. I already put the Metformin away in the locked safebox and I really do wonder about actually having PCOS.

Hopesmom, how are you feeling this morning? Happy and tired? I hope you are enjoying yourself! Have a great day!

Oh, and I have not gotten one BIT of work done all day!!!
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Yay! This is making me feel very optimistic and hopeful. I already put the Metformin away in the locked safebox and I really do wonder about actually having PCOS.

Hopesmom, how are you feeling this morning? Happy and tired? I hope you are enjoying yourself! Have a great day!

Oh, and I have not gotten one BIT of work done all day!!!
I'm feeling OK. Happy, lots of heartburn and nausea. But that sort of makes me happy too. I went to sleep with my kiddos at about 8pm last night.

I'm wondering. Do y'all mind that I'm still sort of here? I'm not quite ready to leave you ladies yet. I am trying to only post to others and not talk about myself.
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Hi everyone -- You take one night off to BD and there are 40 new messages to read.

So I'm just catching up.

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Elkmama - I just figured out what WOHM meant, hey, I am a WOHM too!

What did I am E mean? Just I am Elkmama? There are so many abbreviations, I just have to get them straight!
Lilyflower -I just go by E but Elkmama is probably easier than keeping track of E and that too. No abbreviation, except for my name! I used to hang out on the working moms board, where WOHM vs. WAHM was more relevant...
I have no expertise or experience with Clomid or Metformin but your description sounded like Metformin is not a good choice. I agree with funnygrace that you sounded pretty clear in which way you are leaning.

Oceanmommy - I'll add my .

Anonyk - Cool about the acupuncture.

As for me, this is the 1st month I've used OPK and I was so excited -- jumping up and down -- when I got a clear + yesterday. We are going to GIO again tonight (and maybe in a.m. -- but that is hard since ds comes into our bed between 4 and 6 am every day). Then I'll be in the 2ww.
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It is really funny how excited you can get when you get an OPK positive because it is the closest thing to a BFP and looks really neat.
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Does anybody know when you're taking provera how long af takes to begin? Cause I thought for sure I'd have something by now but I don't even have cramps so that's kinda useless.

Also, in more baffling news, my bloodwork all came back totally normal with the exception of a just barely over the normal level of thyroid hormones, which my doctor wants to repeat in 6 months just to see. However, if I have hyperthyroidism of some sort, I have all kinds of backwards symptoms. I'd kill to lose some weight... I mean if fixing my thyroid means gaining weight, I'm in trouble. Plus, it says that irregular af is a symptom but that it becomes shorter... I don't know about you guys but 46 days isn't short in my book.

Somebody tell me more about the soy thing... What kind of soy are we talking about? Soy tablets? Where would one find these? And where can I read up about this?

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Hopesmom - No! You can't stay! Get out! Just kidding! You can stay... I like having "graduates" giving updates.

Christy - How weird. I hope your shiny new Dr figures out whats up soon. The only thing I know about soy is that is can mimic estrogen, I think. Or it is estrogen... Dang it. It has something to do with estrogen though. Perhaps the ladies over in nutrition or health and healing might know?

Lily - I'm so glad you are feeling hopeful and happy. Lets all hope and pray that Clomid is the answer for you.

Well - today is our 4th anniversary, AND the beginning of my "possible O-days" AND it'll be our first expiriment with Preseed. Woo hoo! Party! For some reason, all those factors are combinging to make me very optomistic and happy today. I've got a good feeling. That or it's a leftover halloween candy buzz.
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Hopesmom - as for me, I asked the question so it is my fault. I do like hearing how you are feeling, as I feel like a friend now. But I know it may hurt some people. I didn't even think about that! Sorry! But I know I would want to stick around a while too or what is the point in joining? We all become friends and then want to wait and see who and when it happens for everyone. I will try not to ask anymore though or I will look for you elsewhere, how is that?

ItyBty, have fun with your Preseed! - oh, and your DH of course.
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Does anyone ever just feel like sitting down and crying till you can't cry anymore?

That's me right now... I just want to cry myself to sleep.

I'm going to go have a big old chocolate brownie all to myself. Maybe it will make me feel better...
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I am so so sorry
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mommy in chaos: yes and I prefer moosetracks ice cream on those days. I hope you feel better. Taking a long slow walk in nature of some kind seems to help a lot.
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Hi Ladies

Thank God I'm back. I miss you all.

DH was discharged on Oct.29th and he is gaining his strength back.

My TTC is wacky. But I thank God for everything.

I hope you are all doing good.

Sending love and to all who needs it.

Love you all.



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I get busy for two days and come back to a million new pages on the thread...

Oceanmommy - big, big hugs to you. I don't understand why this process has to be so hard for us... I wish there was a magic wand we could wave or a switch we could flip...

funnygrace - Thanks for the congrats. I went to my general dr today because I've been bruising very easily this week. Since they needed to take blood, I asked for a pg test. Not sure if it will be a beta or just the yes/no version. I forgot to ask. : I did get a scrip for chewable prenatals out of the trip.
How are you??

selkat - I've missed hearing from you!

Hezzy - Spain! How exciting... Did you come back feeling more relaxed?

mommy_in_chaos -

lilyflower - I have my : that you find out what works best for you!

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Fola, I am so glad to hear things are going better for you and your dh. You've been in my thoughts and prayers. Are you planning on testing soon ? your chart looks possibly promising, I don't know if you are ttc right now or not but you did get in one good chance the day before ovulation so it is possible... and the LP spotting seems different.




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I'm wondering. Do y'all mind that I'm still sort of here? I'm not quite ready to leave you ladies yet. I am trying to only post to others and not talk about myself.
Tricia I for one would be really bummed if our graduates just diappeared as soon as they got their BFPs. We've all been in this so long together, just because you've "won" you personal battle doesn't mean we don't want to see you, or hear how you are. I don't want to torture myself by visiting any DDCs so you need to come here and tell me how you're doing. I am truly delighted that you are pg, when you were ready to throw in the towel a few days ago I had to restrain myself from outright saying no I didn't think you should stop, that you do have a little someone out there waiting for you. I didn't say it because I wanted to support whatever you wanted but still I would have felt sad if you had quit.


Punquin that goes for you too.. I am so truly happy for you and want to hear how you are doing. You have waited so long for this and I know you have come close to quitting ttc yourself. I know that you are going to be a great mom, and that you will cherish every moment, even when your baby poops all over your watch



Elkmama, I love seeing the double lines on my opks. It's like, yes ! my pee can make double lines on something. And my body knows how to have a LH surge. It always makes me happy.


Tenk do you have any links on the soy/clomid thing ? I've never heard that, and I 'd love to know more about it. Right now I am trying to limit my soy (I have been vegetarian for years, recently changed that a little) because soy is a phytoestrogen - it has plant estrogens. It is supposed to be good at menopause for balance but I think I have estrogen dominance right now.



Christy, I wish I had some answers for you


ItyBty good luck with the GIO ! Enjoy ! that's what it's all about right ? Let me know how it goes with the preseed, I think we will be busting out our box next cycle. :



Theresa be good to yourself and hang in there. Chocolate brownies sound like they might help. The next few days are the hardest ones... the end of the 2ww. : good luck !
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Hi ladies,
I think you are stuck with me. I need to know how this turns out for you ladies and I want to be there to celebrate with you when you are pregnant too. I'll try not to post too much, but know that if I think you need support and I have it to give, I'll be here.

I really have appreciated this group of women.
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Oceanmommy You said it best - I like having Punquin and Hopesmom hanging around to keep us updated. Oh, and Preseed rocks! Everything was all slick and squishy... it was.. ermm... neat.

Fola - Yay! I'm so glad your DH is home. You guys have been in my thoughts... I can't wait to hear that he is 100% better.

Lily - Moose tracks? OMG, yummy! Oh, and cookie dough. Ben m Jerry's cookie dough... there is a reason my jeans size is not a single digit. :

mommy_in_chaos - Yes, I do feel that way sometimes. Chocolate does help. I swear - it's not just mental. Take advantage of all that halloween candy hanging around. I swear to you its the reason for me being all sunshiney and Pollyanna this week.
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ItyBty, thanks for the preseed review. I am looking forward to that as our "new" thing this cycle, something I hope will make a difference. It's cd1 today (bleh !) so I've got to have concrete things to look forward to. I just went and ordered a bunch more LH and PG tests from saveontests.com as a treat to the test junkie who resides within : .


To add insult to injury I have very wicked cramps. Like it's not enough that AF is finally here but she's gotta whup me all day too ? WTF



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Good morning! I love your attitude Ocean, I am sorry AF came. You have a really clear warning on your chart to prepare you for that. It is so strange how our bodies work.

ItyBty,

Mommy in chaos your chart looks interesting......: :

Fola I am glad your husband is okay and good luck, your chart also looks interesting.

Tenk, I wonder about the soy too. We are vegetarians, is it weird to be feeding my boys so much soy milk?? I need to investigate that more. I am still thinking about Clomid, fretting over if I am being too impatient. But then I have to consider the fact that I have not become pregnant for seven years, so that is probably telling me something right? I am sure I will probably give in to it when the time comes. How are your emotions holding up?
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Morning, everyone. I had to giggle about the OPK joy -- you're right that it is a thrill just to see SOMETHING get 2 lines.

And ItyBty, glad the Preseed worked out. This is our 2nd month of using Preseed Ex (basically like KY but doesn't kill off sperm) and it is... um, all I can think of is "handy"!!

Mommy_in_chaos, hope the chocolate therapy worked and you're feeling 100% (or at least 60%) better today. Lily's comment about moosetracks ice cream sent me off on an ice cream fantasy and then - lo and behold - Klondike bars were on sale at the store today. So, of course, I HAD to get some so I'm prepared for those feeling-down days.
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All questioning the SOY, I have read it on several web sites, and I actually purchased it at my local grocery the other day. Now I still have enough clomid for 2 more cycles, but i did just get regular SOY from the vitamin section. Just GOOGLE it and you should find it. That's how I did at least. Everyone enjoy your ice cream and your weekend!!!

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Does anyone ever just feel like sitting down and crying till you can't cry anymore?

Yup! I've actually been feeling like that a lot towards the end of last month and the beginning of this month. I'm actually feeling like I'm about ready to give it all up. I'm not really sure that I can keep doing this anymore. I'm not sure that I can handle the continual disappointment and wonky cycles as of late. Giving up sounds like a really good idea to me today. I seem to vacilate hourly between keeping going and just calling it quits. The sad part is that my very first ovulatory cycle post-bcp looks like it was our best shot comparatively and that was back in February. I'm not even sure that I want to consider any testing b/c I figure all the docs will do is take one look at me when they enter the room and tell me all I have to do is lose weight and everything will work just fine.

I'm just about certain that I already o'd early this week when dh was out of town. It was several days earlier than I expected. I did an OPK the last few days. I went from having a faint test line to no test line at all (just a control line) yesterday - which would line up with my thoughts on o already happening. I guess I can look on the bright side - at least this cycle will be a short 30 some days when af arrives.

Ugh! : I don't think I can take too much more of this. I'm tired of hearing questions like - when's the next one? or reassurances from folks irl that think I can somehow control my fertility and conception. I feel like everything is crumbling down around me and to top it all off a dear friend of ours has her son in the hospital after he was run over by a car on Thursday. Is there really no end in sight?

oceanmommy for cd1 and to everyone else who's feeling a little emotional/stressed at the moment. I can't help but feel that life just plain stinks right now.
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Pampered Mom you certainly sound like you are in the tww. I hope your blues don't last too long, but I also hope you get the chance to feel whatever your feelings are. We're here for you !

I know you don't want to go to a dr but I hope you still consider it. Strange cycles cannot be blamed on weight alone, and you might feel better about it all if you are proactive and in control as much as you can be (and they might actually have some insight or meds that could help). A dr is not supposed to tell you to lose weight before they will help you. Have you seen this ? http://www.plus-size-pregnancy.org/ It is a very interesting and empowering site for women of all sizes. I think if you go to a dr who only says to lose weight and gives no other help, it is time to find a new dr.




Ok everyone, I don't have any ice cream but I do have Trader Joes mini peanut butter cups.
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I'm wishing you the very best right now. I completely understand how everything seems against you. I agree with oceanmommy, you are in need of a new doctor if they wont treat you before you lose weight. There are many things that may contribute to your not being able to conceive besides weight. I hope you feel better tomorrow. I know I've been praying a lot for the last few hours because I'm worried that I may be getting depressed. I really don't want that to happen. Maybe it would help you. We are here for you. Always.

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You are awesome. Your attitude toward your life, your attitude toward everyone on this board, and your thoughtfulness of others. I just wanted to let you know that. Thanks for your kind words all the time, it's uplifting.
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The chocolate therapy only made me feel guilty about cheating on my diet. So I decided to take alternate measures today and try prayer instead. (of course, I've had a kit kat bar today, and it wasn't as bad as last night's guilt feeling)
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Happy weekend everyone! So many posts... so many ups and downs.

Oceanmommy—CD 1 again, oh, I'm sorry... but it sounds like you are holding up well. I always get super depressed at the end of a cycle and then feel somewhat renewed when my period actually comes. I TJ's mini peanut butter cups. They are really cute!

HopesMom--Thanks for coming back and sharing. It only makes me feel good good good to have other's who've been trying a while get a positive test. Totally a boost and not in anyway upsetting. I'm looking forward to early pregnancy and want to know about it before it happens. And I'm with Oceanmommy (I think it was OM)--I don't want to do too much DDC voyerism.

Punquin--I bruise easily too! I always have a line of bruises on my thighs were I brush against my footboard on the way to the bathroom at night. (Okay, that sounds a little weird...) Did you find anything out about the bruising? Let us know how the blood test turns out! And thanks for sticking around to you too!

mommy_in_chaos--I'm sorry you are on the verge of : Take care of yourself. The crying seems like a good thing--I think it comes more from the body than the mind and I think our bodies have a lot of grieving to do in this process.

pampered_mom-- to you too. I'm so sorry to hear about your friend's son. I hope he is doing well.

Itybty—Glad you enjoyed the Preseed. Very slippery indeed.

lilyflower--I wonder about Clomid too... and if I am just being impatient. But then again, maybe it would be better to have a child in 10 months than in 19. Especially if the extra 9 months were just spent TTC. It isn't the best hobby. Although, oddly sometimes I think I might miss it... or rather just feel like something is missing.

folaboye--I'm so happy your DH is recovering and home. Love to you too!

I am well. I am not temping much this cycle. I think I'm on CD 7... yes 7. So this is the day I usually scan my body mentally for possible signs. Implantation... like a bug bite? I don't know. But I'm trying not to think about the tww as much this time.
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Haha! And, ironically, every time I hold my friend/officemate's baby, he poops out the sides of his diaper. He hasn't gotten my watch yet,, but he's definitely gotten my shirt...

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Punquin--I bruise easily too! I always have a line of bruises on my thighs were I brush against my footboard on the way to the bathroom at night. (Okay, that sounds a little weird...) Did you find anything out about the bruising? Let us know how the blood test turns out! And thanks for sticking around to you too!
I've always bruised easily, but it's been out of control this week. I haven't heard back yet - I'm assuming they'll call Monday since it is the weekend.

It is way past my bedtime.

Oh, and we got the house!

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I know you don't want to go to a dr but I hope you still consider it. Strange cycles cannot be blamed on weight alone, and you might feel better about it all if you are proactive and in control as much as you can be (and they might actually have some insight or meds that could help).
Dh is more patient than I am and is all for heading in to see someone. I know that our h/i will cover testing and some treatment to a certain degree. I have six cycles charted that I can show ovulation on - of course whether our timing was perfect or not is certainly up to interpretation. Should I wait longer or look into it sooner?

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A dr is not supposed to tell you to lose weight before they will help you. Have you seen this ? http://www.plus-size-pregnancy.org/ It is a very interesting and empowering site for women of all sizes. I think if you go to a dr who only says to lose weight and gives no other help, it is time to find a new dr.
I have seen the site - and may I just say, "I LOVE KMOM!" She definitely rocks! I'll have to take a closer look at her fertility section again, it's been awhile.

I appreciate your encouragement and thoughts on the issue. It helps me feel a little bit less like an odd duck. Even though af found you oceanmommy, I'm still watching very carefully to see if the drain-o effect kicks in this cycle!

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pamered_mom~
I'm wishing you the very best right now. I completely understand how everything seems against you. I agree with oceanmommy, you are in need of a new doctor if they wont treat you before you lose weight. There are many things that may contribute to your not being able to conceive besides weight. I hope you feel better tomorrow. I know I've been praying a lot for the last few hours because I'm worried that I may be getting depressed. I really don't want that to happen. Maybe it would help you. We are here for you. Always.
Thanks, mic for your kind words! :0) It does help quite a bit actually. I know that I have other factors that come into play and I shouldn't fixate on one thing or another. I have also thought about sending dh for sa just to cover our bases. That of course would mean that he would have to schedule an appointment w/a doctor. We have been discussing this (for other reasons) for several months and even got to the point of picking a doctor out...now the remembering to make the appt part is a different story.

Yes, praying does help and thank you for the reminder. FWIW, if you are worried about depression, some nutritional shoreing up can be very helpful. Which, of course is another good reminder for me to get back on track!

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pampered_mom-- to you too. I'm so sorry to hear about your friend's son. I hope he is doing well.
Thanks, funnygrace! The little boy is doing well. We didn't go visit them today, but I'm hoping that they moved him from the PICU to the ped's ward. It would be one hurdle down and a few more to go.

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Itybty—Glad you enjoyed the Preseed. Very slippery indeed.


to folaboye - I too am glad to hear that your dh is headed home. I certainly hope that his further recovery is a smooth one!

I need to head to bed - busy day ahead tomorrow. I'm glad I found you ladies to share this journey with and hope that many more of you will graduate soon - especially if this is your first (not to discount those with secondary infertility like myself). I enjoyed my pg so much with ds and miss it sometimes daily. It's like no other experience and I wish the same for all of you!
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