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#121 of 786 Old 11-06-2006, 08:17 PM
 
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SarahJen. I'm sorry about your loss.

Happy B-day Anon... If it makes you feel any better, I've got three years on you, so I'm really helping to pull that number back.

Wierdness... the Provera my doctor prescribed has done... NOTHING! That's right, absolutely nothing. No cramps, no more nausea, no af, nada. So, now I'm wondering if I should call her, finish out the med and see what happens or what. I am confused... Dumb medicine not doing what it should. It's probably my body too. It's usually me.

Oh and I got some interesting news from my mom over the weekend. We were talking (we talk every weekend, pretty much) and I was going over everything the doctor had said about the bloodwork being normal and whatnot, and that maybe she'll try some clomid and see if that helps. My mom asked me what clomid was, cause she didn't know what it was for, so I explained everything to her and she says... "Oh... You know, that might have helped me. When I was your age I only had a period once every couple years. Nobody even thought I could have children. You and your brother were a total surprise." Well now THAT explains a lot! I'll have to let my doctor know this bit of information. Maybe she'll give me the clomid sooner rather than later.

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Question about Clomid: My cycles are 32 days, so OPK tests say to test starting day 16. When I start Clomid, it seems I am starting days 5-9 just like everyone else, regardless of my usual ovulation day. Does this mean I may ovulate earlier than usual and should start OPK testing earlier?

Christy that is interesting news about your mom!
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Well - the kidney ultrasound was neat - although I felt like I should be looking for legs and arms on the screen, it was weird just looking at a kidney. The MRI took 30 minutes, and I just closed my eyes and thought about anything else. It was loud as hell too, and i had earplugs in. I told DH it was like I had a weird dream about being stuck inside a video game - all beeps and buzzing and stuff. Very odd. I got lucky in that I'm fairly tall, so I only had to go into the machine up to my chin or so. I could do it again, but it's not something I'd be volunteering for. I dont' actually see the Dr until tomorrow - so thats when I'll find out of I'm broken or something.

Christy - How strange about your mom - perhaps it's just one of those weird genetic things? I hope that info helps the Dr figure things out.
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Question about Clomid: My cycles are 32 days, so OPK tests say to test starting day 16. When I start Clomid, it seems I am starting days 5-9 just like everyone else, regardless of my usual ovulation day. Does this mean I may ovulate earlier than usual and should start OPK testing earlier?

Christy that is interesting news about your mom!
I'd start a little earlier. I Oed day 14 or 15 on clomid. I started OPKing around CD11 just to be sure.
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I dont' actually see the Dr until tomorrow - so thats when I'll find out of I'm broken or something.
I'm not sure that even if there is an issue that you should consider yourself broken or anything. It's actually possible to get pg and labor with a bicoronate uterus - even VBAC as one lady I know of was able to do this year.

I've got my : for some good news!
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Thanks to everyone for all the good birthday wishes! I ended up having a really good day, actually, so right now I am feeling pretty good about everything. We'll see how that goes next week, though.

ItyBty - glad to hear you survived your mri! I've had them too and they're just so.... unsettling? I hope you get some good info tomorrow.

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- That's strange about the provera. I would call the doc and see what they think, but that's just me. Also interesting that your mom had those issues - my mom keeps swearing that the only way she and her mother got pregnant was on prednisone (they're asthmatic). I actually took some over the summer for some bad bronchitis and the cycle after that was our suspected conception. If we don't have some good news at the end of the year I'll be taking that little piece of info to the specialist.

allisonrose - I hope you're pg long before your birthday rolls around!
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Just catching up... I can't believe there are so many of you who also saw that lousy movie (Match Point). I really did feel like I'd wasted 2.5 hours!

SarahJen - So very, very sorry for your loss. I hope that you continue to feel supported this time of grief, irl and here both. After my m/c (in 2/06), I was advised to wait until I'd had a normal period, which would mean that the lining got fully built up. So I think that is what was behind the "wait a cycle" advice.

ItyBty - I'm glad the MRI was tolerable and it sounds like it was better than you'd feared. Hope the dr's visit brings some helpful news.
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Wierdness... the Provera my doctor prescribed has done... NOTHING! That's right, absolutely nothing. No cramps, no more nausea, no af, nada. So, now I'm wondering if I should call her, finish out the med and see what happens or what. I am confused... Dumb medicine not doing what it should. It's probably my body too. It's usually me.
I'm betting you need to take the entire however many days of the provera. I took it once while TTC our first and my doc said that it might take up to a week to start my period after I finished taking it.
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I've been wondering about this possibility of PCOS. Yesterday I got a call from the receptionist at my GYN's office letting me know that my bloodwork is all "normal". I had realized this weekend that in the copies of my bloodwork I didn't have my LH results - the LH:FSH ratio is a diagnostic measure for PCOS. So I requested the actual number from the receptionist. It was 13.58. I didn't have the rest of my blood work results on me. So I looked at my FSH results last night: 5-something. So my ratio is about 13:5. So maybe I do have PCOS? :

One thing is for sure - I need a new doctor. Unfortunately I'll be pulling a name out of the phone book. I work with mostly military wives including the one woman I know in my area dealing with infertility.

I keep telling my hubby that something must be wrong and I just want someone to figure out what it is so we can deal with it.

One of the pregnant woman in my building is due in mid January and was in my office area talking to the other pregnant woman (my teammate) about how she's been having some contractions. Apparently it's a possibility that she'll be put on bedrest. She left and my pregnant teammate and another teammate (who has her tubes tied because she never wants to have kids) were talking about much it'd suck to be on bedrest. I spoke up and said that when it comes to the health of your baby, you'll do anything. I said some women would be willing to be on bedrest for the entire 9 months just to have a baby. They were pretty quiet after that and I don't think the pregnant teammate has glanced my way since then. I hope she thinks a bit more about how her words can hurt others.

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Hi girls, just wanted to drop in. I'm 2 dpo and feeling semi bloated and nauseaous (sp) but it's life... right?!?! or the clomid

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I guess it is time for me to join this thread. I'm on CD 3 today, and this is the start of cycle 7 ttc our 1st. I took BCP for 12 years!!! so the first 3 cycles ttc, my lp was too short. Since then, everything looks good. I've been ovulating and my lp is up to 12 or 13 days, but no BFP for us yet.
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Well I just got back from the Dr with my official diagnosis. "Unexplainable Infertility" :
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ItyBty: Wow, that sucks. Has your husband tested? I think you should totally ignore that and just keep trying. I think that just means "has not happened yet"

Welcome Greenegirl! It is frustrating to think all those years on birth control isn't it?
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Does anyone know if you really have to wait four hours without peeing to take an OPK test in the afternoon? I know it says that on the store bought ones, but the internet strips? I have to go! But I am supposed to wait another TWO HOURS. I need to test positive dangit! I am waiting!!!
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Lilly I took one in the AM and one in the PM every day until I got my ++ OPK and then I took them AM and PM to see how long it was going to stay +++. What day do you normally O??? I honestly thought you O'd on CD15...no? Well, I'm CD19 and 2dpo, is anyone with me or close to this???

OH, did anyone every have a +++ OPK for 3 FULL days, like taking them AM and PM and them being +++ for 72 full hours??!?!?! I wonder if the clomid made me release multiple eggs and that's the reason for the long O. Also, did I O during the +++ since it was sooo long or did I O 12-36 hours after I finally got a negative?!?! : It's so confusing???? I felt tons of things this month...ovary pains up until Friday, and Sat night I could feel my cervix doing something, then crampy on Sun and Mon finally getting a negative OPK Monday morning....today I feel great...a wee bit bloated...any ideas on the O thing anyone????



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I read that you are supposed to ovulate after the first Positive. But I really don't know about that Clomid thing, I also heard that could be possible to ovulate a couple of days later, so I don't know. I wish you had a chart I could stare at! Hopefully you just covered your bases?? It looks like I ovulated on day 15 on my chart, but I took my last two temps on very restless mornings with very sore neck awake every hour or so and tossing and turning. I have not gotten a + OPK. I usually ovulate later. Also, I haven't gotten any eggwhite so far, which I usually do. So I am hoping it gets positive today. Tenk, I hope it works for you this cycle.
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: Hola everyone ! I am still hopelessly behind on personals, so please forgive me if I miss someone. I couldn't get into MDC last night when I had some time to post. grr...


ItyBty I am sorry sister to hear the official diagnosis. That hurts. I do think in the world of infertility, "unexplained infertility" is all too common, and I am sure if I got an official diagnosis it would be the same one. They just don't know why. Maybe there is no problem and it is just taking longer because of the fact that so much is chance involved. s hugs to you today sweetie.



Allisonrose Good for you for sharing you feelings about how much it would not suck to be on bedrest. That should give them something to think about, and remind them to be grateful for this wonderful gift, no matter what the cost. It must be so hard to have pregnancy rubbed in your face everyday with such insensitive folks. I also think it is awesome that you are taking your care into your own hands and looking for a new dr.


Tenk : I hope you are gestating a nice little zygote right now. Divide little cells and become sticky ! :
on the subject of three+++ postive days of OPKs, I had this last cycle and I think the one before or the one before that. I think FF has some info on it... either you just happend to catch the very beginning and very end of the whole surge (testing 2x a day - this is what I did) or maybe your body just takes a bit longer to get rid of the LH and it hangs around longer. Last cycle I first got crosshairs on day 1 of the surge, then it switched to day 2 of the surge which I felt matched my other signs. You can get a +LH even after the egg has actually released (I think this really only happens on those multiple LH surge cycles, because the LH peaks and takes time to fall back). Also lots of women stop testing after they get one + test, so they don't know how many days their peaks last.... I of course want to know not just when it starts but when it ends too. I am a test junkie, I will admit.
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Lilyflower, I wouldn't worry about the holding your pee thing. As long as you haven't drank a crazy amount of water ahead of time I think it's ok. Good Luck ! : I Love those double lines.


Greenegirl, welcome new cycle buddy (I am cd4 and I noticed last cycle we were on track together too). Ok for the last three cycles, my cycle buddies have gotten BFPs so what does that tell you ? Maybe you are next. :
I hope your stay here is short and sweet.





CD4 here, not much interesting. It is raining like crazy outside.


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ItyBty - I'm so sorry they didn't have anything constructive to give you. That is so frustrating and definitely my fear if I were to seek out a possible diagnosis for the why not questions.
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Ok - I'm done crying and sulking, and I voted, so I can better talk now.

We've both been tested and poked and prodded - more me than him. He is fine, slightly below average, but in the "normal" range, so it's on to testing me. I've been charting, been HSG'd, MRI'd and as a result I now know that I dont have a bicoronate uturus, but rather a uturus with a septum, that goes about halfway, maybe only 1/3 of the way down. This in itself isn't a big deal though.

I have to wait until AF shows up this month, then go and get my 3-day labs (bloodwork, yipee!. ) so they can check thyroid and hormone levels. I also have to wait until next month, use OPK's and have timed intercourse, then go in the following day to have my CM checked out to make sure it's a good environment for DH's sperm. I also have a 3 month Clomid prescription, that I can use next month, pending the results of the 3-day bloodwork. (if its hormone or thyroid related issues, Clomid won't help)

So it looks like I'm at the end of the road for homebrew remedies. I keep telling myself that I've always wanted twins, and that intervention, IVF, etc, can potentially lead to that - but I can't help but me sad, angry, and emotionally exhausted at all of this. It's just so universally unfair.

So for the next 2 weeks I'm just going to throw myself into working on wedding invites (for my cousin) and quilts (for christmas gifts) and try to keep my mind off of baby stuff.

I'll do some personals tomorrow - Thanks for the hugs.
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ItyBtyYou are right, this is really unfair.
I was going to ask about the post-coital and bloodwork. It sounds like you are doing everything, all your ducks are in a row (like my sig.... you're breaking through, you're bending spoons, you're keeping flowers in full bloom...etc ). You are giving it your all maybe it just needs more time. I think a break from thinking about ttc is a great idea... I can never get myself to do it but I've heard it works for others.






Pampered Mom, I wanted to say that I was glad to hear you are "only" 27. Time is on your side

I also would be likely to try HBAC once we succeed. I decided to research it once we are pg, dealing with those decisions is pointless for me until we actually conceive a babe that needs a birth. My previous MW may be the only one I would really trust to guide me through that, I remember her telling me that at one time HBACs were 25% of her practice because no one else wanted to do them. I remember her saying she felt the risks at home were similar to the risks at the hospital in terms of rupture, etc.
If I find myself in the care of an OB during early PG (I am Rh- and last time got tests and rhogam) I will just wait till the day I announce I am HBing and then be gone. My last OB told me that if I plan to homebirth I just decide when it's my "official" decision and then she's not responsible any longer and she'd transfer my records to my MW. She said just do that at like 9 months when you are clear of needing the hospital for a preemie birth.
Of course the VBAC thing might change that. That's a whole 'nother issue to deal with, but I will only be too pleased to do so when the time comes.





Speaking of which...


Stephanie and Tricia, How are you ? Symptoms ? I am thinking of you both.
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Darn test is negative again! Now I am getting paranoid I may have ovulated early. But I really don't think so, I am normally late. I guess I can expect a nice late period this month.
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ItyBty - I wish things were different for all of us, it really can be so unfair sometimes.

Greengirl welcome , I hope your stay is short.

Tenk - hope you caught that egg

Today was my first day back at work since the m/c, I *almost* made it through the day with no tears. One day at a time, this is going to be a loooong month for me waiting and waiting and hoping all over again. I'm concentrating on getting well and staying positive and trying to look at the good in things, like actually looking forward to AF for once this year .

It's raining buckets here today, suits my mood fine though. A warm bath and a quiet evening might be just what I need.
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ItyBty - I understand how frustrating the lack of answers are! It's probably the only time in your life you'll wish the doctor could find something wrong with you.

lilyflower - Looking at your chart, it doesn't look like you Oed yet...

SarahJen - We all understand the tears.

After calling around the offices of some GYNs in town, I decided that I am likely not going to get any help from them. So I'm going to continue with the acupuncture this month and next. I'm going to call an RE and make an appointment for sometime January. I think an RE stands the best chance of being able to help me out. I'm going to have to be very careful with my hours at work around the holidays so I figure wait till all that calms down. It'll also give the acupuncture an opportunity to work. Hopefully I'll be able to cancel the appointment before it even comes around.

Good luck to everyone!

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allisonrose - that is true, I really was hoping for something to be wrong. The only thing left really is the blood tests. I'm hoping to find an issue there, cause I just need answers now.

I'm thinking foster care now, I dunno if I can handle the thought that IVF could potentioally not work. Then we'd still be childless, but we'd be broke too.

I'm gonna say something, and it'll probably come off as *really* insesitive, and I'm gonna apologize in advance here, but it's been on my mind all day, and I can't seem to shake it. DH didn't seem to think it too outrageous, but I felt awful even saying it, but I said to him today that I was thinking that I don't even know if I can *get* pregnant, and I'd almost rather have gotten pregnant, and m/c, because at least then I'd know I could *get* pregnant.

How awful am I? : :
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Itybty--I don't think that's awful, it's just how we feel sometimes on this side of the pregnancy fence. Being pregnant at all would be such a big hurdle crossed in my mind and sometimes somehow part of the processes of carrying to term. I am aware that miscarriage might be in our future, and I will feel differently if I have the experience.

allisonrose--I hope you don't need to go to the RE in January, but your low stress plan sounds like a good one. I think it is important to stick with new methods for a while to give them a chance to work, whether it be acupuncture or in my case Prometrium right now. I keep trying to remember that it is still a roll of the dice each month.

SarahJen--Oh,it sounds so exhausting to combine working with physical and emotional recovery. I hope that tomorrow is a little bit easier and that you have more time to rest this weekend.

Oh, have I ever been lax on this thread the past day or so--Welcome greenegirl! I'll add you to the list! Let me know if I need to change anything about it. I hope your stay is short and sweet.

I'm 10 dpo today and doing a good job of not thinking too much about this. Today *is* the first conceivable (ha!) day I could get a bfp. I think that every month on 10dpo. The months are just flying by. Anyway... I'll keep quiet and let this 2 ww develop a little more.
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Funnygrace I couldn't help but peak at your chart. Nice : For me this end part of the cycle is the hardest, is it like that for you ? You always seem so calm and centered.



ItyBty I don't think that is awful to think that, when I had my MC years ago that was indeed the only silver lining... knowing sperm met egg and implanted and hormones changed, even if it didn't last. It was possible. That is huge knowledge to have in my book. When we ttc for dd 7 yrs ago, we tried for 4 months, got pg and then an early MC, then took a couple months off, then ttc for like 6 months and got pg with dd. This time around I can't help but compare the two ttc journeys.... and part of me is thinking... 15 months and not even a MC. Not that I would want to experience that again, it was awful. The MC just seemed to anchor our ttc, getting PG, however briefly, was a major milestone in our ttc journey. We had in fact succeeded in getting pregnant, even though it didn't last (and I mourned that loss for a long time). It felt like we were resetting the clock and starting over at month 1 of ttc again, which felt better than being on month 6 or 7.

Anyways, that's my long winded way of saying I understand what you are feeling.

And I understand the pain of MC too, those were some of my darkest days, I questioned the point of my existence and of the Divine, I lashed out at pretty much everyone around me. When I think back on that time I remember darkness, pain, tears, and despair. So I am not saying what I said lightly, just that I can understand.
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ItyBty - I hope it wasn't me you were worried about offending, speaking as someone who has just gone through it the *only* silver lining is that at least we know we have slots and tabs that work together. When I go to bed at night and have my tears over it that's what I have to hold on to. My biggest fear now is that it was my only chance and it won't happen again but I try to push those thoughts out. Don't ever apologize for your feelings, if there was ever a place you could put them out there without judgment it's here, we're all here to support each other.

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funnygrace - I guess I have to get you to move me back to the TTC list.
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Thanks for the welcomes :-) Funnygrace -- Our first month ttc was actually 5/06. I only just started cycle 7. (Does this thread work something like the One Thread with an assigned Threadkeeper for each month?)

The hardest part of this journey for me is the fear that I will never be able to get pregnant. In each generation of my family, going back to at least my great-grandmother's generation, there has been one woman who was infertile. I've kind of been assuming that my sister is that person in our generation. She's been diagnosed with PCOS and some other hormone related issues. What if I am actually the infertile one in our generation? Or perhaps we are defying the family legacy and both of us are infertile?
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Lily Hugs to you girly, and thank you for listening...thanks to everyone for listening.

Ocean thank you for all the info, and I'm glad I'm not the only person that needs to check day and night and day and night...

ItyBty I'm sorry that you didn't get any answers, I know that sucks big ones if you know what I mean...and I hate when people keep telling me to be patient so I won't even say it...but hugs to you too

Allison Good luck with the acupuncture, and maybe you won't need the RE...fingers crossed...:

Funny I'm loving that chart...your much stronger than I would be right now, even with out a chart to look at I HAVE TO test early...and of course DH is like would you stop already.

Green welcome welcome welcome...I hope it's short and sweet!

Sarah I think no matter how you look at it, being sad and crying are part of it, and the only way to heal and get better is to do that when ever you need to...When Kamryn passed away, I thought I was never going to stop crying, and it seems now I only cry once every other day or so...and I freaking hate it...but it's necessary to heal...and I know...she knows...I love her. Oh, I'm going to post again something that DH found for me when she passed, and it may make you feel weapy, but you'll appreciate it....

As for me, I am now 3 dpo and feel well, normal, no bad things, no good things, just normal. Oh If I O'd on Sunday, then that was a full moon, and would have been great timing, since Catholics lived by the lunar calander at one time...DH's family is Roman Catholic, and there are some children in his parents sides that are much much younger than the rest...hehe...so that doesn't always work out like we plan...hehe

Oh enough of the have a fabulous day ladies

Tenk ~ happily married with lots of kids

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