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How exciting 'hockeylover'. Have a great retrieval! You'll be pregnant in no time.
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great info 'greeniemama'
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Juls, I am keeping my fingers crossed for you. If you end up with extra embies or eggs, and want to share... I'm not feeling very comfortable with the excessive costs of the DE process - $25 - 30k! It's insanely expensive. If only I could find someone who would let me do IVF with my own eggs, I'd be inclined to give IVF one shot, and wait to use the DE option if/when I'm ever in a stable long term relationship. It's just so expensive for a single person...

Here's to your success!

Have you tried contacting REs in NY?
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Maya, please elaborate....do you think DE's in NY are a lot less expensive than in MA? The DE testing costs by my RE's office is super expensive ($4 or $5K), plus the DE costs ($10-15K), plus meds, my part of the process, travel, lodging, etc for the ED.....the list goes on!

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Hm, I thought Saw Palmetto was contraindicated in pg because it's anti-testosterone? And licorice root -- can't it cause problems after O?

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Ms. GB: Have you looked into overseas IVF and/or DE programs? I don't know the names of any clinics, but I've read good things (via IVF forums) about treatment in Spain and the Czech Republic. Even with the U.S. dollar being so weak at the moment, I'm sure you'd spend a lot less than $25-30 K for DE treatment, plane and hotel included. Even where I am (The Netherlands), IVF with ICSI is only about 3000 euro, medication included. (And your first three tries are covered by insurance!)

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great info 'greeniemama'

just glad to help! sending all phenomenal women some
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Maya, please elaborate....do you think DE's in NY are a lot less expensive than in MA? The DE testing costs by my RE's office is super expensive ($4 or $5K), plus the DE costs ($10-15K), plus meds, my part of the process, travel, lodging, etc for the ED.....the list goes on!

I'm sorry that I was a bit confusing.

I meant to say that in NY there are REs that will work with women 40 plus who are seeking to do IVF with their own eggs. You mentioned you wish you could find a RE that would do at least one IVF with your own eggs.

There's a doctor named Dr. Mukherjee and another clinic that I have heard of http://www.newhopefertility.com/
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Jen, is your follow up U/S still on for tomorrow? ETA" I believe licorice root is contrindicated in PG. My naturpoath just has me drink the tea from AF-O.

Thinking of you and Juls!

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My U/S appointment was today, and unfortunately the news is not good. There was a heartbeat, but it was very weak, and very slow (65 BPM, should be 120). The fetus also measured about a week off -- meaning that it was the size of what it should have been a week ago. The doctor said the chances are the pregnancy is not viable, and that the heartbeat will stop soon. :

He said it's probably caused by a genetic abnormality. He said that I may miscarry on my own soon, but if I don't, they will need to do a D & C. So we scheduled one for next Tuesday. They will recheck to make sure there is no longer a heartbeat, then go ahead with it. Sigh. I had really hoped that this would be it, although the lack of a heartbeat on the previous visit was a bit concerning. Still, I really had held out hope.

This is so not fair! The downstairs neighbor just gave birth to her third kid, and she can barely support the two she already had! I'm pretty sad, and I guess mad that this has happened. Being 42 and TTC sucks sometimes.

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Big hugs to you Jen. I *TOTALLY* get it. It sucks when you see people with their new babies, especially when you know that that mom can't provide. It's so sad.

For us, we're moving forward with a Thursday transfer. They got 21 eggs from my donor which is more than my doctor expected. They injected about 13 of them (if I recall) and a few didn't take because of egg abnormalities. They did regular IVF with the sperm and more immature eggs so he was thinking we'd get another couple from that. He thinks we'll have about 13 good embryos tomorrow. I'll get a call tomorrow so see how we're doing and then plan for Thursday. The plan is to transfer 2 eggs that he considers A quality. I'll keep you all posted. And thanks for the support.

MSB, we've had this chat before so you know I'm thinking of you. But yes, it's ridiculously expensive. We just got hit with all our payments the other day and it's a little painful. Not quite $25-30K but around $20K I think. We'll be ok but this definitely is our last go around financially as well as age. Our donor fee was $6K. I have heard that there are donor eggs overseas as well. I think it was on an Oprah actually.
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Jen I am so sorry there is no fairness in TTC.

Juls good luck on your transfer. I am glad there were so many viable eggs. My sister did IVF and from the same batch delivered two off her daughters 3 years apart.

AFM we are waiting for the RE appointment in May, I expect AF later this week. My mother is visiting so we have the day off to go on a short trip in the sunshine.

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Oh Jen I am so sorry TTC is not fair especially at our ages.

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Jen, I am so very, very sorry. I have no words other than to tell you how brave and wonderful I think you are. I was so hoping we were going to break this streak of very bad luck we've had on this thread. I don't think we've had a sticky bean since Spider. Is that right???????

Juls, I am glad to here about your good numbers and wish you the very, very best for your transfer on Thursday. That sounds like a great number of embies. Fingers crossed that you have sufficient Grade A ones for your transfer.

Msgoodbuns, it is so good to see you posting here more again. I am sorry everything is so expensive. I am hoping something works out for you.

I turn 41 this cycle. I had a chat with my acupunturist about how you know when you are done. I am starting to feel hopeless again.

My LP was 10 days again (thanks again Juneau for sharing your experience on this) and I've never been less than 14 days until the m/c. My acu checked my pulses yesterday. The last time she checked them she said they were all very strong. Yesterday they were very weak and my "spleen is on vacation".
Stress at work is the only culprit I can think of. She wants to do a full female saliva panel which is supposed to be more accruate than blood testing. It's $200 or only $50 if I just get my DHEA level checked. I am still supplementing with that as the new update from the Center for Human Reproduction is saying it improves egg quality as well as quantity. No side effects than I can discern.

Big hugs for everyone who is feeling down. Jen, I will be hoping for a miracle for you at your u/s next week. Much love, strength and peace to you.

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My U/S appointment was today, and unfortunately the news is not good. There was a heartbeat, but it was very weak, and very slow (65 BPM, should be 120). The fetus also measured about a week off -- meaning that it was the size of what it should have been a week ago. The doctor said the chances are the pregnancy is not viable, and that the heartbeat will stop soon. :

He said it's probably caused by a genetic abnormality. He said that I may miscarry on my own soon, but if I don't, they will need to do a D & C. So we scheduled one for next Tuesday. They will recheck to make sure there is no longer a heartbeat, then go ahead with it. Sigh. I had really hoped that this would be it, although the lack of a heartbeat on the previous visit was a bit concerning. Still, I really had held out hope.

This is so not fair! The downstairs neighbor just gave birth to her third kid, and she can barely support the two she already had! I'm pretty sad, and I guess mad that this has happened. Being 42 and TTC sucks sometimes.
I am just jumping in here so I do not know your whole story. So I 100% apologize if I am misinformed. I just read your entry about the weak heartbeat abd they may do a D+C. Is that a medical preg.termination? I assume to do that you have much more info than a weak heartbeat?
Isay this only cause my friend (who has a healthy newborn at the moment) went the midwife route, but she told me the one time she visited the OB/GYN they could not hear the baby's heartbeat at all at a time when they "should" have been able to and told her all kinds of worry- but she Let It Be and was 100% fine.

Just putting that out there. But again I do not know your whole story and I am so sorry if in fact it isn't viable. I guess my point is that you never know- just because the heartbeat is weak may not mean it isn't viable inthe long run.
Again, sorry if I do not have the whole story and I wish you health and joy and healthy babies.
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Hi:

I am new to the board and getting used to the concept that I am not going to get pregnant as soon as I want to. I am 42, have a 2.7 year old who is still a frequesnt nurser. After several months of not conceiving I bought a fertility monitor since temp taking seemed impossible with a cosleeping, nursing toddler. I started using the monitor this month and around CD8 it went from low to high fertility and stayed there til CD25 when it went back to low. It never showed a peak in fertility which would have indicated ovulation. So I guess this might explain why I have not gotten pregnant I might not be ovulating.

I have been using a natural progesterone cream to regulate my cycle which had gotten whonky over the past year.

My questions: is it possible that nursing could be surpressing ovulation? Someone on another part of the board suggested supplements. Are there any supplements I could take that would be safe for breastfeeding that might stimulate ovulation? Is it even possible to stimulate ovulation? Are there any other 40+ women here ttc who are also nursing? I don't think I could wean my daughter. I want her to wean herself and she is really commited to nursing.

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Kristin, I think nursing can suppress ovulation in some women. Can you cut back at least? I've heard of some women beginning to ovulate when they nightwean.

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Kristin, nursing does supress ovulation in some women. How often are you nursing? I think there are indeed supplements you can take. Vitex (also called chasteberry) is one. Almost everything will say "do not take if you are PG or nursing".

My son is still nursing 1-2 times a day (yes, he turned 4 last month) and I am completely comfortable taking vitex.

Have you thought about seeing a traditional chinese medicine doctor? I am doing acupunture and herbs. I do ovulate, it is more of an egg quality issue in my case I believe but if you see one that specializes in fertility I am sure they can recommend something.

Good luck!

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Jen, I am so sorry. I hope next week at your u/s something positive shows up, though.

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I haven't posted in a while, but wanted to share my concern, Pookie. I'm so sorry. A year ago when I was 42, I miscarried at 15 weeks. I went for a regular prenatal visit and the baby's heart had just stopped beating. I went for a D&E, and it was a chromosome abnormality. It was a really heartbreaking & emotional experience. Take good care of yourself.

Don't give up hope. I got pregnant again 2 cycles later, and am now 43 years old, and 33 weeks pregnant. I think the vitex and accupuncture helped.

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Thanks, odilemarie, both for the support and the positive example.
SunRise, thanks. I am hoping for the best but preparing for the worst.

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Hugs Jen!

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Kristin, I think nursing can suppress ovulation in some women. Can you cut back at least? I've heard of some women beginning to ovulate when they nightwean.
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Kristin, nursing does supress ovulation in some women. How often are you nursing? I think there are indeed supplements you can take. Vitex (also called chasteberry) is one. Almost everything will say "do not take if you are PG or nursing".

My son is still nursing 1-2 times a day (yes, he turned 4 last month) and I am completely comfortable taking vitex.

Have you thought about seeing a traditional chinese medicine doctor? I am doing acupunture and herbs. I do ovulate, it is more of an egg quality issue in my case I believe but if you see one that specializes in fertility I am sure they can recommend something.

Good luck!
Thanks guys for your suggestions. My dd nurses a lot, some days more than others but many times during the day. At night it depends but I think it usually 12:00, 2:00-3:30 and then again like at 5:30, 7:30, 8:30, 9:30. I have not thought of a tradiditional chinese medicine doctor but will look into it. I am considering taking Maca root and a few other herbs. I made an appointment with an ObGYN who is also an infertility specialist. The appointment is the end of May so I have a little time to see if the herbs work on the upcoming cycle.

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Hi Kristin, and welcome. I am 44 and have been pregnant four times in my 40s; dd was born when I was 41. She is still nursing quite frequently (at just over 3) but I have been pregnant three times since she was born, the first when she was only 13 months old. Unfortunately, they've all been losses but unrelated to nursing. That's just to say I haven't had trouble getting pregnant with a little nursling even in my 40s. Keeping it is another story (for me).

Jen, I'm so sorry. It sucks to have come this far. And where you are you can only worry and wonder until something is resolved one way or another.

Veganmama, I don't know what causes the shortened LP. Mine was 10 or 11 days for a long time before finally stabilizing at 12.

Hockeylover, I hope all goes as planned with your transfer! It seems like you're our next best hope for a BFP!

AFM, I have been lurking but not posting, but it's time for an update. I am in San Diego and had my final u/s and bloodwork today for my FET. Unfortunately, my estrogen was low (95 instead of 110-150) and my lining was thin (6 mm instead of 8 mm). So the doctor recommended canceling, though he was willing to go ahead if I insisted. I decided to bail but I'm feeling pretty discouraged.

I do know that I ovulated today, and I had tons of EWCM this cycle, and BD timing was pretty reasonable. But I'm not very hopeful. And the next two cycles I'll be traveling right at O time, so I don't hold out much hope of even TTC for a few cycles. Ugh.

I just have to get out of this funk and enjoy being in San Diego anyway. Though my daughter was being such a pill today (really, it's only because I'm jet-lagged and don't have dh or anyone around to take her off my hands for an hour) that I wondered why I wanted to have another one anyway...
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Personally, I didn't get a period at all for the 15 months that I was nursing. I suppose I could've been ovulating at any time but just didn't DTD at the time, if I was. As soon as I fully weened, I got back on cycle. Of course, I've had three years of secondary infertility issues but that's a whole other topic.

My transfer is tomorrow. I go in about noon and should be home around 2. Then I'll lay flat on my back, feet in the air until Saturday morning when I sadly have to go in to work. The only ok part of that is that I know I can sit on my butt the entire day. I really don't have to get up except to leave or go to the bathroom. Wish I could've snuck one more day in between.

My doctor called me and we ended up with 10 A quality eggs. He's happy with that. They'll transfer two and obviously freeze the rest. I think he would've liked a few more but he's happy with the quality of these so I'll go with that. Besides, if we had, say, 18 eggs, I'm not sure I have 5-6 more transfers in me financially, emotionally or physically. As it is, when on the days when I have to give myself two shots in the behind (dellestrogen and progesterone) it's a challenge.

Thank you ALL for the good wishes and endless support. You know I'll keep you all posted every step of the way.
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Juls, to me that sounds like a LOT of good embies! That's great. We all have our fingers crossed for you and our positive thoughts flowing.

Juneau, my darling. I am so sorry your FET got cancelled. How disappointing. False unicorn root and red raspberry may help you with the estrogen and the lining respectively.
My kids are torturing me lately so I know the "how can I possibly handle another one" feeling. DS peed in our bed 2 of the last 3 nights. DD didn't go to sleep until 11 pm last night. DS is in a hitting phase. He's quite shy and in order to mask that he tries to act tough. It used to involve scowling whenever he is in a new situation and unsure of himself. Lately it has involved hitting DD (who weighs 8 lbs less than him even though she is 20 months older) or occasionally another child (although never anyone smaller than him). I know he doesn't mean to hurt anyone and generally I don't think he does hit very hard but it's still a problem. DD is becoming very good at the talking back!

Jen, we are still all thinking of you and your babe and hoping for a positive outcome.

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Jen: Hoping for the best for you. I can't imagine how hard it must be for you right now.

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Juneau: Sorry that your FET was cancelled. I hope you still manage to enjoy San Diego. (I'm from California and I miss it sooooo much.)

Veganmama: Sorry your kids are driving you nuts.

Hello to those I missed and welcome to the new women on this thread. I stopped posting about two months ago when I was told that due to severe MF, IVF/ICSI was our only chance of conceiving. I don't want to get my hopes up, but my chart (which I've been only half-heartedly keeping) is looking good.

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Hockeylover: Best wishes for your transfer tomorrow! Think thick, right?

Juneau: Sorry that your FET was cancelled. I hope you still manage to enjoy your time in fabulously warm and sunny San Diego. (I lived in northern California for twenty years and I miss it tons too -- and So Cal, even with all its problems, seems so nice when we've had an extremely cool, cloudy, damp spring -- we even have had snow as recently as last weekend. Bleh!)

Veganmama: I hope your kids are behaving better now. I have just the one, and sometimes he drives me nuts, too. He's very high maintenance, so to speak. But then, he's a kid, right?

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