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freezehead's Avatar freezehead 08:03 PM 08-15-2008
as an aside...

does anyone here have a preference when it comes to charting software (and yes, i'm fully aware that this will have no impact whatsoever on my fertility! )- ovusoft seems to be coming up with slightly different albeit probably more accurate results. (i'm crossing my fingers as it gives me a shorter postovulatory phase so far...)

peanutbuttercup's Avatar peanutbuttercup 08:05 PM 08-15-2008
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he is not a comfort sucker of any kind .. he CHEWS his thumb. LOL but he doesn't confort nurse either --

thanks

jsut feeling foolish and discouraged
Don't feel foolish! There is nothing foolish about wanting a child!
Mom to E and A's Avatar Mom to E and A 08:22 PM 08-15-2008
trying not to be too excited, but I tell ya, my boobs are killing me....I can't get enough sleep...and I am a little crampy. AF isn't due for over a week, but boy am I optimistic! (yet trying not to get my hopes up)
Good Luck to everyone else in this waiting game of fertility!
peanutbuttercup's Avatar peanutbuttercup 08:59 PM 08-15-2008
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trying not to be too excited, but I tell ya, my boobs are killing me....I can't get enough sleep...and I am a little crampy. AF isn't due for over a week, but boy am I optimistic! (yet trying not to get my hopes up)
Good Luck to everyone else in this waiting game of fertility!

Oooooooh! This sounds great!! We need some more BFPs!
ZtoA's Avatar ZtoA 10:01 PM 08-15-2008
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Can I join you?

DD is 17 months, still waiting on my first PPAF, but I think I may have ovulated??

What do you all think? I guess I'll find out soon enough.

K
I think it looks like you ovulated, I would say cd20? There is a temp shift, I think, with only one previous outlying high temp (cd11).

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Well, mamas, I thought I had ovulated twice this cycle, based on CM and the cramping twinges I had... but it occured to me that since they were 6 days apart (CD14 and CD20) that it may have been implantation? I know it's a bit on the early side (5-12 is normal I think), but the book Magical Beginnings, Enchanted Lives says day 5 or 6 post ovulation? I haven't been able to temp, so am going only on my feelings and CM. My CM was clearly EWCM for about 3 days around CD14, but I had moist, but not eggwhite CM up until CD20 (yesterday) when I had a tiny but of EWCM and INTENSE cramping/feeling of fullness. Today, CD21, I feel fine in my uterus! Any thoughts or ways to guess without a chart? I am so impatient!
blissful_maia - Just going by my own experience, but what you are describing sounds like o pains that I have experienced since Z's birth.

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Jilian~ Glad to know i'm not seeing things. I'll probably test again tomorrow morning.

DustysSweety - I see it too.

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AM I even the least bit realistic?

I mean I know we are playing the dice for a looooong shot ... but is it, do you think, even POSSIBLE?


I am starting to think the whole this is STUPID and that there is NO WAY I am going to be preggo by Dec 31.


A
Momma Aimee - I think it is very possible, since it seems like the best predictor would be what happened before. Even though you are taking longer this time, it sounds like you tend to return to fertility early? In any case, the average that I've read is 14 months, so you still have a reasonable chance.

AFM - higher temp this morning! But my DS is sick and nursing round the clock, so I'm nervous what effect that will have.
SoCaliMommy's Avatar SoCaliMommy 10:56 PM 08-15-2008
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as an aside...

does anyone here have a preference when it comes to charting software (and yes, i'm fully aware that this will have no impact whatsoever on my fertility! )- ovusoft seems to be coming up with slightly different albeit probably more accurate results. (i'm crossing my fingers as it gives me a shorter postovulatory phase so far...)



I love Ovusoft.. there is a free version of it at ivillage

SoCaliMommy's Avatar SoCaliMommy 10:58 PM 08-15-2008
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AFM - higher temp this morning! But my DS is sick and nursing round the clock, so I'm nervous what effect that will have.

:: Your chart looks really good so far

blissful_maia's Avatar blissful_maia 11:16 PM 08-15-2008
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blissful_maia - Just going by my own experience, but what you are describing sounds like o pains that I have experienced since Z's birth.
Hmm... interesting. I usually feel mittelschmerz as like sharp, rhythmic pain that stops and starts fairly quickly (around 30 mins to 1 hour). I felt this around CD14, and although I did feel a bit of that on CD20, it was much, much more intense and the pressure/fullness was totally new to me!

So, either I'm 8dpo or 2dpo tomorrow! Aah! I was planning on testing starting 10dpo, with $1 tests until I got a or AF. So should I start in 2 days or 8?
blissful_maia's Avatar blissful_maia 11:17 PM 08-15-2008
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trying not to be too excited, but I tell ya, my boobs are killing me....I can't get enough sleep...and I am a little crampy. AF isn't due for over a week, but boy am I optimistic! (yet trying not to get my hopes up)
Good Luck to everyone else in this waiting game of fertility!
I hope this is it for you!
because's Avatar because 12:41 AM 08-16-2008
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Because thinking of you. Well, if you'd like the luck of the threadmistress for a little longer you are welcome to take September too and I'll take October.
No, no. It's yours! Gotta share the luck. I'm happy to take it next time there is no one else interested. It's actually kind of fun!

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Can I join you?

DD is 17 months, still waiting on my first PPAF, but I think I may have ovulated??

What do you all think? I guess I'll find out soon enough.

K
Welcome! I hope your stay here is short and sweet. I'll put you in the First Eggs list but I do think you ovulated so let me know if you'd rather be in the 2WW list (either is fine!). Good luck!

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Well, mamas, I thought I had ovulated twice this cycle, based on CM and the cramping twinges I had... but it occured to me that since they were 6 days apart (CD14 and CD20) that it may have been implantation? I know it's a bit on the early side (5-12 is normal I think), but the book Magical Beginnings, Enchanted Lives says day 5 or 6 post ovulation? I haven't been able to temp, so am going only on my feelings and CM. My CM was clearly EWCM for about 3 days around CD14, but I had moist, but not eggwhite CM up until CD20 (yesterday) when I had a tiny but of EWCM and INTENSE cramping/feeling of fullness. Today, CD21, I feel fine in my uterus! Any thoughts or ways to guess without a chart? I am so impatient!
I think if you ovulate twice, it has to happen within 24 hours of each other because of hormonal changes that prevent a second ovulation after that. I know DS implanted at 6 dpo so IME that second pain would not be too early.

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I was planning on testing starting 10dpo, with $1 tests until I got a or AF. So should I start in 2 days or 8?
Heck, start tomorrow! No, seriously, I'd start testing assuming the earlier day was o and the later day was implantation. Good luck!

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Glad to know i'm not seeing things. I'll probably test again tomorrow morning.
Aww, I missed it before you removed the links. Sounds promising, though! Let me know as soon as you want to be our next Success Story!

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AM I even the least bit realistic?
With your history, I do think it's realistic to hope for pg by then. Since you are so different than last time, though, I think I might look into the reasons. Do you have enough body fat to overcome the estrogen threshhold this time? How is your thyroid? If you get a blood test, you really want your TSH to be between 1 and 2 for conception. That said, the average age for the return of fertility is 14.5 months. As DS eats more solids and matures over the next few months, I think you'll get what you want. Remember to take care of yourself physically and emotionally to optimize the chances.

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as an aside...

does anyone here have a preference when it comes to charting software
I think ovusoft is way better than FF. I have a really old version (2002) of ovusoft and don't want to pay for the upgrade so I can't upload my charts anymore. So I have the old version on my PC and I use FF to link in my sig. Ovusoft never lets me down while I constantly have to override FF. There is a 15 day free trial at www.tcoyf.com, too. It's the companion website to the book and software and has a really great discussion forum over there. Check it out!

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trying not to be too excited, but I tell ya, my boobs are killing me....I can't get enough sleep...and I am a little crampy. AF isn't due for over a week, but boy am I optimistic! (yet trying not to get my hopes up)
Good Luck to everyone else in this waiting game of fertility!
Sounds promising!
blissful_maia's Avatar blissful_maia 01:19 AM 08-16-2008
Aaah, exactly what I wanted to hear! Someone encouraging my freakish urge to POAS! Yeay! I suppose the hormones could be built up to a high enough level by now, and I have been feeling a bit strange. I'll save my FMU in a cup and walk to the dollar store with the girls and get a test in the AM! (Or a couple of tests, in case it's too early!) :
Ianthe's Avatar Ianthe 01:46 AM 08-16-2008
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I'll save my FMU in a cup and walk to the dollar store with the girls and get a test in the AM! (Or a couple of tests, in case it's too early!) :
That's an idea.. since I never bought another test today.. hmm...
SoCaliMommy's Avatar SoCaliMommy 01:53 AM 08-16-2008

blissful_maia's Avatar blissful_maia 02:02 AM 08-16-2008
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To curb my waiting since i'll probably just use a digitial tomorrow....

11dpo FRER's

A little enhanced

Negative View


That looks like a positive to me! I bet by 14-15dpo that will be so nice and clear! :
SoCaliMommy's Avatar SoCaliMommy 02:16 AM 08-16-2008


Torrow will be 13dpo so i'm thinking of using a the Walgreens digital that says it's comparable to CBE.


blissful_maia's Avatar blissful_maia 02:27 AM 08-16-2008
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Torrow will be 13dpo so i'm thinking of using a the Walgreens digital that says it's comparable to CBE.

Good idea! It's pretty difficult to misread "pregnant"! Too bad you're probably preggo, or I would invite you to pop on over to the TTC thread in the UC forum! :
SoCaliMommy's Avatar SoCaliMommy 02:35 AM 08-16-2008
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Good idea! It's pretty difficult to misread "pregnant"! Too bad you're probably preggo, or I would invite you to pop on over to the TTC thread in the UC forum! :
It was my dream to have a UC with my son but then my mom hired a doula for me and my plan on a opps we didn't make it to the hospital in time UC went out the window, but the doula was great with dealing with the rude midwife that was oncall and delivered my son.


ZtoA's Avatar ZtoA 03:07 AM 08-16-2008
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Hmm... interesting. I usually feel mittelschmerz as like sharp, rhythmic pain that stops and starts fairly quickly (around 30 mins to 1 hour). I felt this around CD14, and although I did feel a bit of that on CD20, it was much, much more intense and the pressure/fullness was totally new to me!

So, either I'm 8dpo or 2dpo tomorrow! Aah! I was planning on testing starting 10dpo, with $1 tests until I got a or AF. So should I start in 2 days or 8?
Oh, maybe I misunderstood what you meant by intense. Yeah, I feel sharp stabbing pains, but they do end pretty quickly. (Except this cycle which was different b/c I used clomid, there was an achy feeling and sometimes a feeling of fullness for about two days, which I think might have been my ovaries(!).) So yeah, quite possibly you felt implantation and should test! I plan to test on Monday too, btw!
blissful_maia's Avatar blissful_maia 03:22 AM 08-16-2008
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Oh, maybe I misunderstood what you meant by intense. Yeah, I feel sharp stabbing pains, but they do end pretty quickly. (Except this cycle which was different b/c I used clomid, there was an achy feeling and sometimes a feeling of fullness for about two days, which I think might have been my ovaries(!).) So yeah, quite possibly you felt implantation and should test! I plan to test on Monday too, btw!
By more "intense" I just mean that they were stronger and more noticeable. Like I almost needed to sit down and just let it pass, it was pretty strong.

I hope your ache was ovulation!

I know 8dpo seems early to test, but if implantation really did happen on 6dpo, might there be enough hcg in my system to register on an hpt? Ah well, it's only $1 and satisfies my desire to POAS.
Natalie143's Avatar Natalie143 06:26 AM 08-16-2008
Hi everyone! i'd love to join you guys! We are TTC #2 this cycle (im on cd 3 now)... first time temping so im definately gonna need loads of guidance hehe:
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/2256d9

My Ds is gonna be 19 months next week and we are still breastfeeding on demand. He feeds numerous times in the day and between 2-6 times at night!(oh how i wish he would sleep through the night lol)
I had the Mirena in 6 weeks pp so im not exactly sure when i got AF back... because i did regularly have light spotting every month on the mirena. I took it out about 10mo pp and have been using condoms as birth control.. Af shows her ugly face around 35 days every month (not regularly 35 though.. some 32..some 37.. some even 45!)... i'm surprised that i got AF back so quickly though considering how often my son drinks milk! in my opinion AF never took a break and i continued to have my period pp(post partum)

Quick question for mamas who dont have the same amount of cycle days everytime.. how do you know when to use OPK's?
Natalie143's Avatar Natalie143 06:29 AM 08-16-2008
hmmmm now why is it that my new signature doesnt show
ZtoA's Avatar ZtoA 06:41 AM 08-16-2008
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By more "intense" I just mean that they were stronger and more noticeable. Like I almost needed to sit down and just let it pass, it was pretty strong.

I hope your ache was ovulation!

I know 8dpo seems early to test, but if implantation really did happen on 6dpo, might there be enough hcg in my system to register on an hpt? Ah well, it's only $1 and satisfies my desire to POAS.
That is way stronger than what I felt. I have read that it takes 2-3 days for the hcg to build high enough to test, so it could be worth a try.


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Hi everyone! i'd love to join you guys! We are TTC #2 this cycle (im on cd 3 now)... first time temping so im definately gonna need loads of guidance hehe:
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/2256d9

My Ds is gonna be 19 months next week and we are still breastfeeding on demand. He feeds numerous times in the day and between 2-6 times at night!(oh how i wish he would sleep through the night lol)
I had the Mirena in 6 weeks pp so im not exactly sure when i got AF back... because i did regularly have light spotting every month on the mirena. I took it out about 10mo pp and have been using condoms as birth control.. Af shows her ugly face around 35 days every month (not regularly 35 though.. some 32..some 37.. some even 45!)... i'm surprised that i got AF back so quickly though considering how often my son drinks milk! in my opinion AF never took a break and i continued to have my period pp(post partum)

Quick question for mamas who dont have the same amount of cycle days everytime.. how do you know when to use OPK's?
Hi Natalie! Welcome! I don't know if you'll like my answer -- I bought a ton of cheap internet ones and just used them every day. But I guess you could probably wait till you had EWCM or a high cervix to use them. I just didn't want to guess.
peanutbuttercup's Avatar peanutbuttercup 10:18 AM 08-16-2008
Oh geez. Another BFN. And a huge temperature drop...I am so sad. I think this means I am about to get my first ugly PP AF.
I woke up at 6am with my DD who is teething like crazy. We just hit a major breakthrough a few weeks ago and she was only nursing 2-3 times during the night. Last night she never stopped...So I woke up at 6am with serious cramps, a backache, gas, and nausea. I POAS and got a BFN. Then I came back to bed hoping she may fall asleep. That didn't happen. So we got up. I took my temp...it was so low! I was so sad. My DH gave me a hug and we decided that now we are waiting for AF.
So, I'm sitting here typing this and just took my temp again...It got 99.1 and 98.9. I never take my temp after I get up, so I'm not sure what this means. Also I felt some cm as I stood up, and I checked, expecting blood. But it was creamy???? So I checked my cp...it's at medium today instead of low, and feels ever so slightly open...What is going on??
Sorry for the length! Any feedback would be helpful!
SoCaliMommy's Avatar SoCaliMommy 01:33 PM 08-16-2008


peanutbuttercup~ about the temp drop and neg test.


Not Pregnant Digital this morning and temp drop

bensgirl1222's Avatar bensgirl1222 01:41 PM 08-16-2008
Does my chart look like I def O'd? i am new to charting (1st month) and since I am still BFing my DS (3-4 times a day) I just want to make sure my chart looks "right". This is my 1st cycle TTC with my 1st pp AF. Thanks!

http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/2094f4

peanutbutter Sorry about the temp drop
Natalie Welcome!
blissful_maia Good luck!!
SoCaliMommy's Avatar SoCaliMommy 01:51 PM 08-16-2008


bensgirl1222~ Your chart looks good so far.


Natalie143's Avatar Natalie143 02:18 PM 08-16-2008
why cant they just sell OPK's in packs of like 30 or 21.. so that we can test everyday of our cycle (For those that dont know when they will O.. like us breastfeeding mama's hehe)
anyone know where i can buy some cheap OPK's?
SoCaliMommy's Avatar SoCaliMommy 02:20 PM 08-16-2008
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why cant they just sell OPK's in packs of like 30 or 21.. so that we can test everyday of our cycle (For those that dont know when they will O.. like us breastfeeding mama's hehe)
anyone know where i can buy some cheap OPK's?


I buy from early-pregnancy-tests.com


bensgirl1222's Avatar bensgirl1222 02:29 PM 08-16-2008
I also reccomend that site. In fact, I bought 20 OPK's and 5 pg tests on ebay from the same company for like $11! I cant tell you if the pg tests work, as I have not used them yet, but the OPK worked like a charm (well, I hope anyway). It def showed a + 2 days in a row. Good luck!
treehugginmama's Avatar treehugginmama 02:53 PM 08-16-2008
Well move me to waiting to o I got AF the day before my birthday. How sucky.
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