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Hi all! Anyone else scheduling an FET in 2009? our first attempt starts when i start my next period.... which is sometime this week! Our embies are from a fresh cycle done in sept 2005 that resulted in my 2.5 yr old Ruby Violet. I am hoping I get lucky this time too.
I've not done an FET before, any advice or thoughts? we may have to do PIO shots instead of progesterone suppositories as when i did the supps during my fresh cycle i had some reaction to them and basically swelled shut. The prometrium is in peanut oil which i'm allergic to, so PIO it may be. oh well, life goes on!

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hi! i'm doing a FET cycle too. we did our first IVF in the Fall. i got pregnant, but lost the pregnancy at 9 weeks. we had 6 frozen embryos, so we are trying again.

i started bcps on 12/30. right now, it looks like our transfer will be the week of 2/9.

the PIO shots aren't too bad. i posted some hints about them on the first page of the January IVF thread, if you're interested.

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I did PIO for 12 weeks with my fresh cycle... so i'm a veteran. just hoping to avoid them.

I'm so sorry to hear about your loss. I can't imagine.

I don't have to do bcp for this FET, just estrace and PIO. nice and simple.

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oops, i read your earlier post wrong. sorry 'bout that.

just estrace and pio sounds nice. im kinda annoyed by these weeks of bcps. i wonder why protocols are so different. . .?
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Yeah I'm stoked i could avoid the bcp. I was told by my RE that since my cycles are spot on regular, they didn't need them. thank god, they made me insane during the fresh cycle.

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Well. I guess today is CD 1. that was fast.

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Me too! Day 1 here. My clinic only does bcp's when your cycle is irregular or long, which applies to me. Started them today. Pooey on waiting a month!

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so how long are you on bcp?

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21 days, then AF, then start estrace, u/s around 14 days later. The one good thing about skipping a month would have been getting a break from crazy-making hormones and constipation. Ah well, used to it now!

How are you two feeling? If you are not doing bcp's, are you on estrace already? Because of the bcp's, each FET cycle actually takes 2 months for me.

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Nope, not on estrace, we're doing delestrogen... injections. 2x a weeks for what looks like forever. Our clinic does FET the same way they do donor cycles because that gives them higher success rates. I'll do whatevs... cause success is what we want!
So i started delestrogen today, and will have a US on the 22nd for lining check. transfer is tentatively scheduled for the 30th. :

sorry your FETs take so long!

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Wow. the delestrogen is making me crazy already. I'm crabby, short tempered and spacey soooooooo spacey. I can hardly focus!

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Count me in!

I have 15 embies left over from a fall cycle. We had implanted only one and were pregnant but a second one mysteriously appeared in my fallopian tube, which caused a miscarriage between 5 and 6 weeks. This time we're implanting two.

I just got our meds ordered; they should get here Tuesday. I think I'm doing progesterone shots for a certain number of days then the suppositories after that. Honestly, I haven't been keeping track of much past what my next step is.

The next step right now is waiting for my cycle to start. I'm expecting it within a week, then I will go in on CD3 for the baseline stuff and start the bcp's. I think I was told I'd only be on the bcp's for a very short time (under two weeks, if I'm remembering correctly). I don't know how long after my cycle starts until the transfer though.

I've been doing amazingly well staying stress-free. I had some other major stresses threaten to buckle me and I just made up my mind to let go of any expectations I might have about this or the other stuff. I feel good. I'm going to set up a little meditation alter to spend some focused energy on these embies. Otherwise I'm just lettin' things unfold.

Here's my fertility blog: ourlittlebabyblog.wordpress.com Sarah, I have your blog bookmarked but does anyone else have one I can stalk?

chiromama: Take care of yourself. Can you slow down the pace of life any? Prioritize, ya know? I found myself to be very spacey with my IVF cycle (I thought it was just me coping badly but maybe it was the meds! lol). I fought it and tried to maintain normalcy in our life. But this stuff just isn't normal and I've decided to just go with the flow of it this time.

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Timely advice, OrganicSister! I was just talking with my dh about what I can cut out of my schedule. I am stressed and a bit depressed and hating my job. And we have a 2 year old, who is a blessing and I am grateful for her every day, but she's a lot of work. I hate taking her to the babysitter, but maybe with crazymama (literally now!) I should just take as much time for myself as I can. She will probably have more fun there than with low energy me, anyway.

And when I am stalking IVF threads, I am always piping up to say "this is a crazy time, cut stuff out of your schedule, take care of yourself" etc etc. Especailly since stress decreases success. Taking my own advice now.

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hi tara!! thanks for your comment on my blog today. i don't think there is any such thing as TMI anymore. my life (at least as far as ttc) is an open book!

i started AF on tuesday, dec 30 and started bcps the same day. i continue the bcps through jan 17 (which is total of 19 days of bcps) and add in lupron beginning jan 14. my RE's IVF nurse told me to call when AF arrives next (should be 3-5 days after stopping bcps). she said i'll have to be on estrace for at least 14 days and then 3 days of progesterone before transfer. so, we are looking at transferring some time the week of feb 9-13.

i'm really hoping my body cooperates and is ready to go by that week. if it isnt ready, i have to wait for a march transfer (due to their scheduling/closing). it sucks, but i am trying very hard to trust that it will work out as it should.

im so envious of your 15 embies. we only had 6 to freeze after our fresh cycle. ive heard stories of having to thaw up to 5 to get 2 of proper quality to transfer. i really hope i am able to get at least 2 FETs out of the six we have (if necessary).

i'm glad to be cycle buddies with you again. this time around, sticky babies, eh?!?

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Ok so this is my 3rd and final attempt to post tonight. MDC keeps eating my posts!

I was soo spacey during my fresh cycle, and in the midst of moving my practice and staring a new business. : even my RE lectured me to take it easy! This time I'm in the middle of big business changes, but fortunately patient visits are slow so I have time to relax. I'm also taking full advantage of my sitter time... and trying not to use the big box too much, but by mid afternoon I'm spent!

I have many more fears than I did with my first IVF cycle... probably because now I know what I'd be losing, you know? I try to acknowledge them and move on... not to let them fester or pretend they aren't there.

So my cycle looks like this: increasing delestrogen every thurs and sun for 2 weeks. Lining check on the 22nd, and if all is well we'll start PIO 5 days before the transfer on the 30th. I'm hopeful, cautiously.

glad to be here with all of you. :

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Sarah: Seems like such a long cycle for you! I'm wondering if mine will be that long now. Also wondering why different protocols are different - if it's the doctor or the patient?

Does anyone know exactly how they do the thawing? I mean, if they thaw two 5 day embies and one doesn't make it, how do they have time too thaw another? Is it done really fast so it can all be done in one day? It seems like they wouldn't have much time between thawing and transferring either.

Yes, stickies this time. For longer!

P.S. I started spotting today but no real period yet. Eek! I don't get my meds until Tuesday. Hope I don't need them before that!
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Yes, it is weird how different each clinic does things. Because my cycles are both long and irregular, I am on bcp's for a full 21 days, then wait for AF, then do estrace for at least 14 days before they do an u/s.

Regarding thaw, I can tell you what happened with my last FET. Two days (or 3?) before my scheduled transfer, they thawed a couple of Day 2 embryos to give them time to start dividing. I think one didn't survive the freeze and two didn't keep on dividing. The day of my transfer, they had one that had thawed and was still dividing and they thawed another one that morning (so they could say that it had survived the freeze, but they didn't know yet if it was going to divide). I transferred 2, but 5 had been thawed to get those two good ones. Hope this makes sense.

Part of the "thaw plan" depends on what stage the embryos were when they were frozen. I had a lot of fertilized embryos, so they froze quite a few at days 2 and 3 (apparently the earlier they are frozen, the more likely they are to survive the thaw).

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Interesting about hte thaw, I assume ours will thaw a very short time before transfer, as they are 5 day blasts. I remember my doc saying something about not messing around too much with them, just thaw em out and pop em in.

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I think I have 5 day blasts too. I'll have to pick the RE's brain on how it works. I'm really curious now.

Oh. I started my period last night. It was like an instant gush. I'm glad I was home. Also glad I didn't start bcp's last month like they offered. I think it would have slowed my flow and apparently it didn't want to be slowed!

The sucky thing is I have jury duty tomorrow. My RE is squeezing me in tomorrow morning at 7am. I hope everything looks good - whatever good is!
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WTG on bleeding tara! HOpe your US looks good tomorrow. Our RE looked for cysts and my uterine lining.

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My daughter is the result of FET (leftover embryo from the fresh cycle that produced ds). They thaw the totsicles the morning of the transfer.
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Interesting about hte thaw, I assume ours will thaw a very short time before transfer, as they are 5 day blasts. I remember my doc saying something about not messing around too much with them, just thaw em out and pop em in.
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I think I have 5 day blasts too. I'll have to pick the RE's brain on how it works. I'm really curious now.

The sucky thing is I have jury duty tomorrow. My RE is squeezing me in tomorrow morning at 7am. I hope everything looks good - whatever good is!
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My daughter is the result of FET (leftover embryo from the fresh cycle that produced ds). They thaw the totsicles the morning of the transfer.
No, they don't always thaw them the morning of. My dd is also the result of a FET, this cycle I am starting now will be my 3rd FET cycle. I would be very interested to hear about how they do it for you, OrganicSister and chiromama. And good luck at the RE OrganicSister!! And with jury duty!

AFM, AF is over already, that was fast! It is due to the bcp's, of course. I am trying to decide what my priorities will be this time. Last time I cut out caffeine and went to accupuncture and I am trying to fit in more exercise these days. I also think I would benefit from cutting out dairy and wheat, but it is so much work, kwim?

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I was thinking today about what i'm doing this cycle for myself. I had a pedi on sat night (trade with a pt who doesn't have insurance) and am going to schedule acupuncture. thankfully DH is really picking up the slack, and cleaned the whole house today while Ruby and I were at a birthday party. Then, I came home and took a nap while he and ruby watched a movie and then he worked on his bike. Now I'm making dinner while they run to the store. (and clearly rambling on here)
Basically I'm going to try to sleep more, and listen to my body. If i need a break I'm going to try and take it.

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I guess that some clinics do it differently, but my last clinic thawed the morning of the transfer and so does our current clinic. Perhaps, it's because I'm dealing with blastocysts. Maybe, if you freeze 3 day embryos, they thaw them earlier? I don't know. They physically couldn't thaw mine any earlier than the day of the transfer, because they have to be available to implant at that point.
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Hi girls, may I ask you a question? What is the medication protocol you had or will have for your FET? I'm guessing it's not as extensive as for a fresh cycle?

I'm about to undergo an ER tomorrow, and fresh transfer in 6 days. But I'm already counting on a FET next month since we have less than a 50% chance of this working.
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50% isn't that bad of a chance! on our IVF cycle we had about 70%, which is better than 50 but 50 is way better than any chance we ever had any other way. Why do you feel your chances of success are low?

My FET is completely different than our fresh cycle. just some estrogen to prep my uterine lining, then 5 days before transfer PIO shots, then continue PIO shots.

Good luck at your ER tomorrow! :

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Well, looks like this month is a No go. I had a ginormous cyst, 4 cm across. She's having me start bcp's today and in three weeks we'll check on the cyst and drain it if necessary. Then we'll wait for my next cycle, which will be on time since I'll be on the bcp's. She said 21 days after the first day of my next period, we transfer. That puts me at February 26th.

I'm disappointed but not devastated. We have a lot going on this month, prepping our yard for our garden, lots of physical labor to get it put together. But next month, I'll just be planting and digging, which is SO therapeutic for me. I know I could've started the bcp's last month but I think my system needed this extra time, so I feel okay about it. Still a little bummed, but overall good.

Oh, my RE says they thaw within hours of the transfer. The froze two to a straw so if only one makes it we get to decide whether or not to thaw two more and risk three. That would be a tough decision, as I want to implant two this time but I don't want to implant three. Nor do I want to destroy any. Hopefully we won't have to make that call.
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Tara, sorry you've got to put your cycle on hold! glad you have a good outlook about it.

Our clinic froze 3 to a straw, and we've decided to transfer no more than two. So, if all three thaw, we'll have to lose one. It's a huge bummer but I don't want to transfer three, as I would rather not tempt fate with triplets, nor do I want to have to face the decision to reduce.

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Hi girls, may I ask you a question? What is the medication protocol you had or will have for your FET? I'm guessing it's not as extensive as for a fresh cycle?

I'm about to undergo an ER tomorrow, and fresh transfer in 6 days. But I'm already counting on a FET next month since we have less than a 50% chance of this working.
You have a good shot at this being successful! I hope you don't have to go to a FET, but just in case - yes, the meds are way less.

I have long, irregular periods, so my clinic has me take bcp's for a full 21 days (regular cycle people skip this step). On day 14 of this cycle, I will start synarel nose spray to suppress me (works the same as Lupron). Then I get another AF, and start estrace. They increase the dose every 5 days (2mg, 4mg, 6 mg). It is is just pills though. Then about 14 days after starting estrace they do an u/s and see how the lining is. Based on that, they give me an ET day. Two days before ET I stop the nose spray (suppression) and start prometrium suppositorires. No shots at all! And a lot less monitoring, at least at my clinic.

Regarding thawing, I never even thought about how many embryos they freeze together! I thought they could thaw them one by one, but maybe not. When I got pg with my dd, they told me they had THREE ready to transfer, I could choose to transfer all 3 or let one go to waste, so we did all 3. My dd is a singleton and we don't regret it. And we had none left over after that though. I am going to ask about this!! MCD has given me so much more info than I had when I first IVF - thanks everyone!!!!

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All clinics that I've heard of anyone personally using or used myself, (a total of 5 clinics) freeze each embryo in its own straw. I wouldn't want to use a clinic that did it any other way. Embryos are precious and freezing multiple together puts people in a very awkward spot, if more than 2 are thawed.
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