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#421 of 965 Old 10-11-2011, 04:06 PM
 
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Hello hope people don't mind if I just jump in without catching up.

 

I was really touched to see you still had me on the frount page, thanks for thinking of us.

 

Anyway if anyone would like an update about me:

 

Obviously thinks have been pretty rough but I'm doing my best taking each day at a time.

 

Fertility wise: I had my first consultation about being treated as a singel woman today.  I have low AMH 4.9 so I'm glad to be getting on with it before it gets worst.  I need keyhole sugery on my remaining ovary and a dye test to check my tubes are open before I can get anything underway so need to chase the hospital about that.

 

Anyway good luck to you all espcially blueeyze, rcr, renvanoo and others who remeber me from spring.

 

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hi ladies,

 

so many of you are about to cycle! so exciting.  for everyone on stims, about to start stims, or getting ready for FETs, I've got my fingers crossed for you.  i said it before, and i'll say it again, we need more bfps!!

 

afm, i haven't called the RE yet.  i don't think about it until late afternoon when i have a slow moment in my day and by then it's too late.  i keep promising myself i will call tomorrow.  and then the next day i say i will call tomorrow.  i think it's the ostrich technique, just kind of pushing it aside as if it will get better or go away on its own.  i really need to call tomorrow.

 

i started ww last week as well, renavoo, and have lost 10lbs in one week.  i think a lot of it was hormone/AF weight dropping off.  but my pants button easily again and i don't feel so stuffed into my clothes anymore.  actually since i did two back to back ivf cycles, i think i forgot what it feels like to feel NORMAL again.  not over hormonal, not bloated, less cranky (sometimes), less weepy (slightly), no more hot flashes, no cramps, breast tenderness.  just normal body feelings.  and i'm not hyper analyzing every flutter my body makes.  i missed feeling normal.  i think that makes it even harder to know we have to do it again.  i am hoping that whatever the dr says we can start up as soon as af comes at the end of the month.  but who knows? 


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Aura, I hope you decide to call tomorrow.  I think you would feel a lot better if you knew what the RE thought and when/how you will start again.  So cool you have already lost 10 lbs.  I did ww before our wedding and I LOVED it.  I lost about 20lbs and I didn't think I could lose more than 10!  I got down below my high school weight ;)  I should have been doing it this whole year, but I kept thinking I'd be pregnant and would have to stop.

 

Renavoo, yay for ww!  Has ww developed a pregnancy plan (they used to make you quit)?  I know people that "loosely" did ww when they were pregnant.  Obviously you don't want to lose weight when prego (unless a doctor recommends it), but I do think it helped me learn that I can eat anything I want, but the portions need to be smaller than I'd like :)

 

Silver, I am glad you stopped by.  I often wonder how you are doing.  How exciting that you are getting ready to TTC again.  Please keep us posted.

 

Blue, hope your baseline goes well tomorrow, of course there isn't too much that could go wrong ;)  Have you tried BBQ pulled pork in your crock pot?  It's so easy and really yummy.

 

Deborah, I am curious too about why you can't have any caffiene?  Neither of my RE's have ever mentioned it, and I always write on the "survey" that I have 1 cup a day and on rare occassions a soda with caffiene.  I'd be rather annoyed by her tone as well, but like blue I would probably just stick it out unless it gets worse.

 

rcr, I transfer in a little over 2 weeks, on 10/28.  Wow, I can't believe you are starting already!!!  So funny about leaving DS with DH.  I totally understand :)  What a great idea about surprises each day!!!!  I bet he'll love that!

 

AFM, I can't wait for my lining check on Friday.  I really hope it's 9-10, which is what my new clinic prefers.  That would be the thickest lining I have ever had.  Mine was only 8mm during my fresh cycle when my E2 was 6000+, but I am using different drugs so maybe that will help.  Of course I would settle for 8, but I think if it is under 9 they will have me come back for another u/s before transfer to make sure it plumped up more (cha ching - $300).  And it might delay the transfer.  I still have my hopes on getting a BFP and having the u/s for heartbeat before Thanksgiving so we can announce to our family then.  What a wonderful thing to be thankful for!

 

 

 


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It was a phone message, not email, so the tone is unmistakable. The Doppler ultrasound is to check a certain artery in the uterus. I don't quite follow it, but my understanding is you don't want it to be too active or something. That is why I couldn't have caffeine for 72 hours.


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So wow, this is a super HUGE thread, but I'm just going to jump in here on page 22!  We have been waiting and waiting and finally got word today that the research study we've been waiting on has more openings for IVF! I go on Oct. 21 for the screening appointment and as long as I meet the requirements, I'll start the process right away.  This is HUGE for us, as there was no way my DH was willing to pay the $19k we were quoted by our current RE.  I meet most of the requirements, I'll just have to have a serum anti mullerian to check my ovarian reserve.  I had to pass on IUI this month as I have to be off Clomid for 30 days, but it's a chance we're willing to take.  Fingers crossed the appointment goes well!


 

 

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Wow, lot's happening on the thread the past couple of days, I've been reading but not posting (well, that's not exactly true, I had a bunch written but then when I went to go check out someone's post on a page other than the one I was currently on, I lost it all... and I was too tired to re-type everything).

 

Kewpie, how are things?  Haven't heard from you since day before yesterday, was it?  I've been thinking about you lots, and hoping all is well with you and the babes.

 

Deborah, I have never heard about caffeine affecting levels.  One thing I did want to say about caffeine is that there is a new study out that says there's a good chance that caffeine can affect fertility-- something about it causing small spasms in the fallopian tubes or something like that--but I don't think they said how much caffeine will do that, and if it is in all women or those with pre-existing conditions.  I'm not even sure if they did actual studies on women, or they did it on mice (poor creatures!)... However, I know that in Traditional Chinese Medicine, some acupuncturists tell you to stay away from it as much as possible.  One of the ladies I was seeing, she told me not just to cut down but go right off it.  Well, I couldn't give up my chocolate entirely, but I did do away with the 1 cup of java I had per day.  I don't know if that helped me conceive this last cycle, or what. 

 

Renavoo, Blue and Belly, good luck with all your stuff going on this week!  I hope baselines, news about transfer, and lining checks all turn out super well.  I'm so excited for you all! 

 

Aura, here's hoping that when you do get a hold of your RE, that you find some answers and come up with a plan.  Sometimes getting a new plan in place, although it takes a lot of energy after going through what you and your DH experienced, can really help. 

 

I'm sorry if I've missed anybody-- I hope all is well with everyone else!

 

AFM, I've got a lot of bloating happening, which I'm fine with, I was just surprised.  I guess after reading Renavoo's post I can assume that so much of it is the estrogen and progesterone I'm taking.  I've got an appointment with my family doc tomorrow, since it is about time for an annual check and I'm going to do the pre-natal stuff with him to start.  I don't see someone from my midwifery team until Novembe 25th.  On the advice of my wonderful current acupuncturist, who I saw last Friday, I'm just taking things day by day, and looking forward to crossing off the different upcoming things and reaching the different milestones.  So, the doc's appointment tomorrow, another acupuncture session Friday, and then on Sunday I will have reached the 6 week mark.  Then I start another week... This approach seems to be helping me get through the day without disabling worry.  I'm sad that my best friend isn't able to provide me with any emotional support right now... It's too long of a story to tell at the moment (I'm heading off to watch some Dancing with the Stars, and rest with my feet up), but basically, it comes down to either waiting for her to get in touch with me since having shared the news of my bfp with her, or, assuming that she meant it when she said that she was perfectly fine with my news and so I just carry on and do my regular 'friend' thing with her--texting, calling to get caught up, make plans for lunch, etc.  The thing is, we both have recently experienced a pregnancy loss, and we supported one another during those times... and during the past few months, both of us have been ttc'ing.  I know she is happy for us, but... KWIM?  So on the one hand, I'm being really sensitive to the other feelings she might be having (but just not acknowledging to me) and thinking that she needs some space, and on the other, maybe I should just go with what she told me... and if it turns out that she isn't that okay with things, then it is her responsiblity to tell me and we can talk about.  I wasn't going to share news of the bfp with anyone else--we are waiting to tell our families because we want to make sure we see the heartbeat on u/s at the end of the month-- but I did end up telling a friend who I recently re-connected with after a number of years, who is very dear to me.  That was a good thing for me to do, because it's very isolating for me not to have any network of support and encouragement.  But as for *L*, I just don't know what to do.  Any insight from you ladies?


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I think the small spasms is what they were talking about, but it is a particular artery, not the fallopian tubes. My fertility issues are well identified. I do drink caffeine, but not every day.


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Deborah, ugh to the nurses bad attitude!! I am with the other girls who have heard that caffeine in moderation is fine. I hear that we can drink up to 3 small coffees although I know that less is better. I'm lucky that I rarely drink coffee (although i love the smell and the taste) and soda (although once in a while, I love the bubbly!) I can't stay away from the chocolate though!! That's pretty impossible for me. :o) Anyway, I hope that the next interaction you have with this nurse is better. Hopefully, she was just having a bad day. On the off chance that she's affecting you so much because you feel guilty about having a piece of chocolate, please DON'T!!! Having a piece of chocolate is a woman's right...it's silly and improbable that it would affect your test at all!!!

 

Belly, my fingers and toes are crossed for you!! i am waiting anxiously for your lining report and I hope that it's now nice and thick. The injection is supposed to work much better than the oral estrogen and possibly even the suppository...and you seemed to respond quite well to the suppository! So I feel like you're going to be getting a good report.

 

Blue, YAH to the US this morning...let us know how it goes. Ah, It begins again...it's so exciting! haha i don't cook so i don't know anything about crockpotting but i'm sure the food you cooked was great...and appreciated. We are always our own worst critic!

 

Gale, YAH for getting free (?) IVF! That's huge!! What kind of study is it? it's really wonderful that you were able to take advantage of this opportunity and i hope you fit the criteria! What is the criteria, anyway?

 

Silverbird, it's fantastic to hear from you and I'm so happy you signed on to give us an update. Are you going to be getting IVF? Or are you aiming to try an IUI first? I hope that your tests and surgery go well. I've never heard of keyhole surgery (not that I've heard of any of these other terms either prior to starting the process) but i hope it's not too major!! I'll be thinking of you and looking forward to your next update!

 

Laggie, I actually was on weightwatchers before and i loved it. i'm not too much of a fan of the new weight watchers...it's all about changing your diet while the previous plan really allowed you to eat what you wanted. They fixed up the plan because they realized that too many people were not eating healthily. So, this transition has been really difficult for me and it's only day 3. Honestly, I've already screwed up on the plan...hehe but I am loosely following it and not stressing too much. I find that the plan usually works for me just because it makes me acknowledge what I eat as opposed to anything else. In the last couple of days, I've been eating more fruit and less snacks so that, in and of itself, is worth its price...I think ;o) In just a couple of weeks, you're going to begin!! How long are you taking lupron for?

 

Aura, I'm so jealous of your weight loss!! :o) You have a lot more dedication and will power than I do, that's for sure! Anyway, I hope you speak with your RE soon and that he gives you some good options! Do you and DH have an idea of what you would like to do in the future? Did you put some questions together?

 

 

Anyway, ladies, I hope everyone is doing well and I just wanted to give everyone grouphug.gif all around. I'm pretty much just biding my time. Have a client meeting today so i think today will go by quickly. We're going to leave nyc tomorrow afternoon (sniff, I won't be getting my iphone delivery tomorrow then. darn timing!) and then the transfer will be sometime on Friday. I'll stay overnight in bed and on Saturday, it's back home! YAH! haha

 

 

 

 


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Silver - It's great seeing you here again.  I think of you often.

 

Belly - I'm sending you thick lining thoughts!

 

Gale - Welcome to the group! How awesome that you get to be part of a study!  I'm assuming this means a discounted rate?  Good luck to you.

 

Tenszins - Yeah, I've been really tired, so I haven't been on here much the last few days.  Being in the hospital = no sleep and I've been trying to get back to feeling normal again.

 

AFM - I got home from the hospital on Monday, early evening.  I started spotting just walking up the stairs to my apartment, so I'm definitely staying low and not going anywhere or doing anything except dr appts.  The babies seem to be completely unfazed by all of this and have been just as active as ever which is really reassuring.  DH has taken over all the house stuff and I'm doing anything I can do from bed... bills, grocery planning, etc.  DH is being SO supportive and it really helps.  It's hard for me to step back and accept help.  I'm one of those people who does it all and prefers to do it alone, so this is an adjustment.  If i can make it till Halloween, things will look decent.  My goal is to make it to at least Thanksgiving.  I have my next OB appt in the morning and my next perinatal appt in about a week.


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Kewpie, isn't that ridiculous how much they keep you awake in the hospital? When we were in for a week DH and I both started to feel twitchy, angry, and abused. I'm glad you're home, and that the babies are doing well. You ARE doing it all right now for those little ones, so try to look at it that way. I hope those babies stay put for you until at least Thanksgiving! goodvibes.gif

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Tear - it's always great to have graduate's insight and we want everyone to feel welcome!!!  hug.gif

 

Kewpie - Glad you are home and relaxing.  Fingers crossed you get to Thanksgiving!!!  You will have a lot to be thankful for this year!!! Keep us posted.

 

Renavoo - good luck with your trip and i hope all goes well with the ET.  Fingers crossed for you.  The crockpot meal was not so good.  Pretty dry and not much flavor but DH and i ate it and had to pitch the rest (hate wasting food but I just couldn't see us eating it again).  The other meal i took them was a hit though so that was good.

 

Deborah - Interesting about that test.  Never heard of it unless I've had it done and they didn't tell me and didn't say anything about the caffeine part who knows.

 

Tenzi - I'm sorry to hear about your BFF.  I'm sure it has to be a little difficult but maybe if you just keep being her friend and not talk about the pregnancy stuff she will come around and ask you about it.  I guess you just have to put yourself in her shoes and think about how you would feel if the tables were turned.  That is probably what i would do.  I don't have a problem when my friends that get pregnant and I always want to be a part of it since I'm everyones "aunt", but if i had any IRL friends who had IF I'm sure it would be a little more difficult situation.  Good luck.

 

Gale - welcome!!  Hope your stay here is short.  Awesome that you got into that program.  Keep us posted.

 

Belly & rcr - how are you both doing??

 

Aura - i hope you got ahold of your RE.  I know i always feel better after talking to mine and getting a plan.

 

Silver - so good to see your name show up again.  What is up with the surgery???  Fill us in there?  Hope all goes well for you and always sending you hugs!!hug2.gif

 

Hi to everyone else too that i missed.

 

AFM - had my U/S this morning and all went well, i guess.  They were measuring all the follies which i don't think they were suppose to do.... i think it was just suppose to be to make sure I didn't have any cyst.   So supposedly there were 10 less than 10 on the Left and one 5x11 and 5 less than 10 on the Right. They didn't say anything about cyst, so i guess i didn't have any.  Kinda weird though... shouldn't i not really have many follies at all with being on suppression, No?? I've never seen the baseline report before so maybe it is totally normal at this point.  So now i will either have my next u/s on Monday in MI or Tues in MI, that is still to be determined.  I'd assume I'd start meds (fsh) on Sat maybe and hopefully can drop down to 5 units of Lupron tonight, but we'll see what the nurse says when she calls me this afternoon - that is my guess from past experience.

 

 


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So, apparently the test is to see what blood flow to the uterus is like. Seems pretty important to me. They said mine wasn't quite what they like to see. They didn't think the chocolate was particularly significant, but there's no way to really know. So, I will start a regimen of Viagra (vaginal suppository); yes you read that right, baby aspirin and vitamin E. If I am not responsive enough we may have to delay the cycle, but hopefully that won't happen. Additionally, in terms of the issue with the nurse, a different nurse called and I mentioned the concern to her in as benign a way as possible.


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Thanks for the welcome!  I am slowly but surely catching up on the group reading (ha!) and hope to do catch-ups like the rest of you soon.  I lurk every so often, so I'm familiar with some of your stories.  I definitely need to start back at the beginning, though, so I can see how the story properly progresses!

 

The study is for Menopur and Bravelle to be used in conjunction in a single syringe.  I'm told by the RE that this has been done for years already, but the pharmaceutical company wants to market the combo drug instead of the doctor/patient having to mix the two, thus the need for a study for a label change.  The company gives $2500 towards the cost of IVF, pays for all the required labs/testing, etc and covers the costs of all medications.  So, it will cost us $6500 to do it.

 

Criteria is age 18-42, diagnosis of tubal or unexplained infertility, male partner with adequate semen analysis, eligible for IVF and a BMI between 18-32. The nurse I spoke to said the big one catching a lot of people is the anti-mullerian hormone test to check for ovarian reserve because they want it above a certain level.

 

How long does an average cycle take? I know it depends on how well the eggs mature, etc., but is there an average timeframe?  When I go to my appointment on the 21, I will hopefully be on CD 2-3 (with the help of bcp) so they can draw all the labs they need. I'm just trying to get an idea of what we are in for if we meet the criteria.


 

 

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Deborah, I had a blood flow u/s down this cycle at my new clinic.  Did they "measure" the sound waves of the blood.  It kind of sounded like a heart beat :)  I wasn't told to abstain from caffiene though, so maybe it was a different test or perhaps different clinics have different procedures.  They told me if there wasn't enough blood flow to the uterus it might explain my lining issues.  My measurements were fine, but they said if it was low they would recommend a certain type of accupuncture.

 

Gale, I hope you can get in the trial, sounds like a great deal and very promising.  I used bravelle with my fresh cycle. 

 

Blue, I love that you are basically an RE (minus the official training!).  It's funny how much you learn through a couple cycles!  I hope this is your cycle!!!

 

Kewpie, ugh to more spotting.  Glad you are taking it easy and DH is being so wonderful!

 

Tear, love it when you stop by and visit with us!  Thanks for always cheering us on :)

 

Renavoo, I haven't looked at the "new" ww at all, but I have heard a lot of people say it isn't as good as the old program...of course I like that fruit is "free" now!  Only a couple days till transfer!!!!!  YAY!!!!!!!

 

Tenzi, I am catching up on DWTS right now :)  I love my DVR!  Can't wait to hear how your u/s goes! 

 

AFM, nothing new here.  A little worried about my lining since I have less CM than I have in the past...guess I'll find out on Friday.

 

 


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I was about to post that I forgot they also want me to do acupuncture. Good timing BellyBean.


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Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Blue and Tear, on the BFF situation.  I'm not sure if I explained it well earlier, but, the reason I've been struggling is that my acupuncturist (who is pretty much like a counselor, just short of having a degree, and her acupuncuture is focused on IVF and reproductive issues-- she herself has personal experience with things and she has seen a lot of women going who are ttc'ing, IF stuff, loss, etc.) has suggested that I might want to wait for her to approach me, in order to give her time and space to process my news, and sort out any feelings of loss that this may be reactivating in her from a m/c she had a few months ago.  This was my first plan of action, because, when I told my friend my news, I could tell by her reaction that she was having some mixed feelings about it.  (A couple months ago, she reacted the same way when a mutual friend of ours announced her pregnancy, and when I could see that happening I checked in with her and at first she told me she wasn't upset by it but that she was happy for her, but then a few weeks later she confided in me that she hadn't been 'okay' upon hearing the news.  So, I'm just sensing that some of this is happening again.)  So I've definitely put myself in her shoes throughout all these months with everything that has happened, asked her if there was anything she needed from me-- all the things that I had found helpful when I had my losses-- but she kept insisting she was fine, until later on she tells me that she isn't.  And it's not been difficult at all to have empathy, because I know what I felt like when months ago she was the one pregnant and I wasn't.  So I was particularly careful in how I told her and openly acknowledged that I thought it could elicit painful emotions upon hearing my news... but I tried not to assume anything, or project my feelings onto her, either.  But again, she tells me she is fine with it, she's over things...  So I don't know what to think... Sometimes I think that I shouldn't even be on this thread anymore, because I don't want to cause anyone else any pain inadvertently-- after all, I didn't even finish IVF, and so if there is any 'impostering' then that would have to be me!


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Kewpie, wanted to say, YAY for getting out of the hospital and for you and the babes having such resolve!

 

And, Blue, I know what you mean about crockpots-- sometimes things turn out really well for me, and others, not so much.  I've got a recipe for Butter Chicken that is a great 'take-over' meal, I don't do it in a crockpot... but it's super easy.  And delicious.  A friend of mine brought it over to me during a time of need, and I HAD to get the recipe from her.  I'd be happy to share it!


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Hi Ladies,

 

I'm so happy the day is winding down! Had a client meeting today and while it was actually a lot of fun (I love these particular clients) it was also exhausting! And I feel more and more tired everyday, since starting the endometrin.

 

Belly, I had days with and days without the CM, even on vaginal estrogen. It was really surprising because some days, it was so comparatively dry that I was worried something was wrong. I wiped multiple times and even tried bearing down! I was worried that my lining would be insufficient too. And, as you know, my lining is nice and thick. haha I was actually worried when they told me it was 13mm that it was TOO thick! So, I'm thinking you're going to be fine and you're going to have nice fluffy lining, all ready for the transfer and implantation!

 

Gale, good for you! haha I'm a little jealous because I wish I found a clinical trial center around me then! That's a significantly lower cost for IVF! Let us know how everything goes. I hope you get into the study without any trouble whatsoever. Generally, the stimulation phase of IVF is about 8-12 days, depending on how quickly you progress. I ended up needing to go all the way out to 13 days and generally, I haven't seen mention of an 8 day cycle yet but I think 9-10 days is pretty good.

 

Blue, yah to having a good report! I wonder if they were looking at the follies the same way that they would look to get the AFC? Maybe it just tells you how likely you are to respond to stim treatment? And with a number like you've received today, you're looking really good!!! That's really quite amazing. After BCPs, they also counted my follies but I only had like 7 or so...I was a little worried about that because i was concerned that that was my AFC and I didn't want to think what that meant if I had to do another cycle...but I decided to put it to the back of my mind for now! By the way, I just want to HUG your puppy!!

 

Kewpie, please feel better soon and I'm so happy that DH is being so supportive! Soon, hopefully, you'll be used to being taken care of hand and foot! Enjoy it!!

 

Tenzin, I forgot to reply that I'm so sorry that your friend is treating you so badly. I know we all wish we could get pregnant more easily and quickly but to be so mean to someone who did get pregnant is just not fair. It's not YOUR fault that you got pregnant before her!! I guess you need to just give her some time to get used to the idea and become happy for you. You have us to talk to then and listen in!! We're here for you!

 

Ok, so I'm going to dinner today and then tomorrow, we'll be on our way to MD! I'm so excited but nervous. My nurse was supposed to get back to me about what time I am getting the transfer on Friday (she promised she would email me the time today) but she didn't. When I wrote to inquire, I got an out of office email saying she's been out all week. Nice to have promised something when she was going to be out!

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Tenzi - yes, do share that recipe.  Is it like the Indian Butter chicken if so I'm in big trouble b/c I love Butter chicken from Indian restaurants!!!  Feel free to either post it or PM me with it whichever is fine by me.  Also, don't feel like you don't belong here.  You were on the path to IVF and understand IF for sure, so for sure you are welcome here.

 

Belly - Yep, I feel like i have gotten an education for sure over these last 5 yrs.  Too bad I don't have the credentials to put behind my name for it and can give out large bills they they give me!  That would be a great way to make extra money!! LOL.  I'm sure you will have days where there is more CM than others so i bet that is totally normal.  Let us know how it goes on Friday for sure.

 

Gale - That program sounds great!!!  It is kinda hard to say b/c you don't know what exact protocol your RE will put you on, but this protocol I'm on now is the Long Lupron protocol and from like start to finish for me (everyone is different depending on how fast and strong their eggs stim) will probably be like 30-31 days from the first shot of Lupron - to start suppression to the possible Egg transfer.

 

Deborah - glad to hear they got you started on something to increase your blood flow.

 

Renavoo- bummer about that nurse.  what is up with that!!!  Did you call or maybe you can call tomorrow.  Abby would love to give you kisses when you give her that hug!!!!

 

AFM - Talked to the nurse and she dropped my Lupron down to 5 units and Sat night I start Gonal F and Menupor and then my next U/S in MI will be on Tues morning.  So the puppy and I will be driving up after my pap on Monday morning probably will leave after lunch time.  I feel like I have so much to pack and get done, but i'm glad i have the extra day to get things organized for these two weeks.  Yeah!!!  Lets get this ball rolling!!!


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Tear - Yeah, it's crazy. At one point, I kept track and I was woken up every 20-30 minutes between 2am and 5am.  By monday, I was almost in tears cause I was just so dang tired and just wanted to go home so I could sleep.  I feel like I've caught back up and I'm feeling pretty good today.

 

Blue - If I'm remembering correctly, they would count follies when I was on supression too.  I think he called them early follicles??? I may just be remembering wrong, though.  I'm so glad you're getting going!!

 

Deborah - I hope you respond well!!

 

Gale - Wow! That is such a great deal on IVF.  I hope it works for you!!  My first cycle was a really long one and I stimmed for about 15 days.  They had trouble getting my dosage just right to make me respond quick enough.  My second cycle went better and I stimmed for about 10 days, which is pretty average, I believe.

 

Belly - I'm still sending you thick thoughts! 

 

Tenszins - I'm sorry you're having a difficult time with your friend.  I've found that even after going through IVF and loss, that I feel awkward around those whom I know are struggling and either don't know my story or are bothered that I'm currently pregnant.  It would be so much easier if we all could just get pregnant like everyone else.  Being in your friend's situaltion before, I would be willing to bet that she is probably happy for you, but just feeling sad that she can't join you. She might even feel a little jealous.  It's a hard spot to be in. I would give her some time to get used to the idea and she may come around in time...unless she decides to be immature about it.   

 

As far as hanging out here with us, we'd love to keep you.  We've got people who pop in who did IUIs and some who aren't doing anything.  The support is nice and we'd love to hear how your pregnancy progresses.  It doesn't matter HOW your baby came to be. Please stay!

 

AFM - I'll be heading to my follow up with the OB today from my hospital visit in such a little bit.  I really don't know what to expect, but hopefully it will go smoothly.

 

 

 

 


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Oh Tenzin, we are just so hard on ourselves aren't we? You are not an imposter, and hearing you say it makes me hear how hard I was on myself when I said it a few days ago. hug2.gif Please stay, because we care about you and want to know how your story progresses. It sounds like you are very in tune with your friend's needs and will be a great support to her.

Kewpie, good luck at your appt. today!

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I'm just jumping in a thread crashing to send out big hugs to all of you ladies!!!   

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I know that i'm not going thru IF treatments anymore, and I never had to do IVF so i never felt like i could really chime in on the treatments because all i did was Femara/Menopur natural cycles.  (though i hate that they call them "natural" cycles because 1)the nurse had to tell us when to DTD...how romantic, and 2) because those drugs going thru my body was not NATURAL it made me a monster) anyways, I want each and everyone of you to know that i look in here on a regular basis and I admire each and every one of you!!!! I hope that you all get your BFPs soon, and Kewpie: Get as much rest as possible.  Hold onto those little precious babies and take care of yourself!!! :)  From what my mom says about me and my twin brother you'll need all the strength you can get once they get here!!!


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Thanks all for the well wishes!


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I would like to stay on here, really, seeing as those of you who responded to my thread don't feel like I'm an imposter at all...what a great bunch of women on here...  You all were such a great source of support in my early IVF ventures, and I really want to see you all get your bfps!  So I want to be here rooting for you!

 

So the more I'm thinking about it today, the more I'm feeling angry with my friend.  Because even though I know that she might be feeling some of those things that have been discussed here with you all on this thread, how much would it take out of her to even just send me a text to say, "Thinking of you and I hope all is well".  Because that is what I would have done for her.  *sigh* I have this tendency to expect others to do things that I would do for them if the situation were reversed... and I just end up getting disappointed and even crushed, and then I get angry and bitter.  And then I end up forgiving, and build up the hope and trust in the relationship, that the same kinds of things won't happen again... and then something else happens.  It's been a 1 1/2 weeks since I told her, and I've heard nothing.  Yet she can go on FB and write about making some stupid apple bacon pie for our Canadian thanksgiving.  Isn't she wondering if I'm still pregnant?  Isn't she concerned that I'm silently freaking out at least a couple of hours a day, when all is said and done, when you add up the times I feel twinges and heaviness and all the goo from the prometrium, thinking that I'm m/cing?  Because she knows me very well, and would know that I am.  She knows that in August, after a chemical pregnancy, we had an appointment with our RE and I was told that my m/c risk is 38-42%. 

 

I'm so sad about it.  I gave her so much support when she had her m/c in June-- it was DH's birthday, and she called early that am. Her DH had decided he couldn't risk being away from his new job that day, so she was alone.  I spent the whole day with her, and then after I left her I went and stopped to visit another friend whose 9 year old daughter was palliative--who ended up dying just 20 minutes before I got there.  Add in the fact that 2 days before that we were at the hospital for the evening with our DS who was 10 mos at the time, with a severe viral infection... our dog had been very sick with some sort of bacterial infection and was having IV drug therapy and home care (DH is a paramedic so our vet let us keep him with us--at first, we didn't think he was going to make it), PLUS for that whole week I had the Clomid Crazies.  Needless to say, I dealt with all of this, didn't talk about it much with my friend so that it didn't take away from her painful situation... but I ended up having to debrief with the counselor I had been seeing at the time. 

 

I keep thinking about the conversation in which I told her about my bfp.  One of the things she said was, "Oh, well... it's still really early..."  I may have taken it the wrong way, but I couldn't help but think, 'and the rest of your sentence would be, and anything can happen?'.  But I let it go.  And I let it go when she then went on to talk at length about her DH's new classes.  It sure was a different response compared to the first time I told her about my bfp with my DS, after I had a m/c 4 months earlier.  I don't know, maybe because it's the second time around, she thinks it's not a big deal for me?  I'm thinking it's almost a miracle!  She was at our DS's planned homebirth... we call her 'Aunty *L*' because she was there to share the most amazing experience of our lives. 

 

Not sure what I'm going to do... DH and I are supposed to go to an event that she is doing, to support her... but I don't know if I have it in me because there is all this garbage going on! 

 

Okay, that's my vent.  I feel better now.  I promise I'll get this out of my system so I'll have some more upbeat and 'new' things to share then.  orngtongue.gif

 

I'll come on a little later and do personals-- some of you have a LOT of exciting things happening!  And, I'd be happy to share the yummy Indian Butter Chicken recipe!


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tenzin - After reading more about your friend, she sounds very selfish.  After going through loss herself, she should know how you must be feeling.  hug2.gif  I know how scary being pregnant after a loss can be.  Since I have PCOS, my RE told me that I have a high chance of recurrent m/c.  He wouldn't give me a number, but when I googled it, I saw anywhere from 30% - 65%.  It's so frightening to finally have what you want, feel like you SHOULD be happy, but actually be scared sh*tless.  There is a group here on this site for those of us who are pregnant after loss.  I used to post over there, but they don't seem entirely active anymore.  If you want to, we could start it up again if it would make you feel better. I also have another site that I use a LOT for support.  It's mainly a knitting site, but the group I'm in is extremely supportive, so even if you don't knit, they'd welcome you with open arms.  That's not to say that you shouldn't post here, just saying that if you need more support from those who understand the fear of pregnancy after loss it's there for you. 

 

My DH sometimes doesn't understand my need for online support cause he feels RL friends are better.  I agree RL friends are important, but at least for me, being able to write out what I'm feeling is more therapeutic.  Plus, you get a wider range of people to support you.  Plus, I don't have any RL friends who have been through both infertility and loss.  Just one or the other.   I'm totally rambling here, but if you want the info for either, just let me know and I'll get them.

 

AFM - Appt went well this morning.  Doc says that the next 6 weeks are crucial, but after I hit 30 weeks, we can start backing off the bedrest little by little every 2 weeks until 34 when he'll pull me off completely.  So, this isn't going to be quite as long as I thought at first.  DH and I made a list of places that have good takeout (chili's...IHOP and the like) so we have ideas for date nights at home.  We have dates every friday without fail.  So, I'll have at least one different activity to look forward to every week. 

 


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Feeling a little down today.  Just got news of 2 of my close friends that are prego again.  I am sure they are only 4 or 5 weeks, just POAS'd, but I really thought I would be prego before them.  I mean I have been doing a year of the most technically advanced fertility treatments possible.  I just don't know if I can take another failure...especially now, with EVERYONE I know being prego.  My heart breaks, and I am honestly happy for them, just wishing I could get pregnant like a *normal* person.  Then I start thinking my ectopic loss would be due in just 3 weeks had it implanted in the right spot.  I feel like it will never be my turn again. 

 

We also visited some family on vacation last week and one of them was about 10 weeks pregnant.  She hadn't even been to an OB yet, she had a hard time fitting it in.  I kept thinking must be nice to be so naive about loss.  I would have already had several appointments by then.  They were even buying things for the baby, I wish I didn't have a care in the world...


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Oh Belly, my heart goes out to you... it's hard when days are like this.  It's really, really hard, and then when you think that some people just have it so easy when it comes to having a baby... they can take fertility for granted, not to mention what you said about being naive about loss.  Be kind to yourself.  Keep the hope.  Believe.  I hope tomorrow is a better day.  Must be so difficult with that anniversary date coming up, so I hope you have some nice treats in place for you.  Especially as you get closer to another try.hug2.gif

 

Kewpie, so, so SO glad that things are looking the way they are.  When it's broken down like that in terms of the time frame of bed rest levels, it sounds more manageable.  Easy for me to say, though, heh?  You seem to have cultivated nerves of steel in some regards with this pregnancy-- you just keep coping and Maisie and Liam just continue to do their thing-- I'm so happy about that!  I was going to ask you, are you doing any reading on how you are going to do the sleep thing?  How does that work with twins, if one is awake and fussing like mad and the other is trying to sleep... that's one thing I wish that I had looked into more-- approaches to getting your kid to sleep.  For fun reading, have you read the book "The Help"?  (Anyone else?)  I've got a book that I want to start, it's Ami Mackay's "The BirthHouse" (I think that's what it is called).  The knitting chat group sounds good to me, if it's already active... maybe it's just easier to do that one than have us get something going again on mothering?  I think knitting would be a really good thing for me to learn to do, actually.  Very therapeutic I would imagine, plus you have something beautiful at the end of it.  (Well, maybe when one is just starting out it doesn't turn out so great... ha ha)  About online support, it can be so helpful--especially when it comes to topics that aren't really discussed openly irl, which definitely seems to be the case with IF and things related to that.  Thank you for your support!

 

Renavoo, TOTALLY frustrating that the nurse didn't get back to you about the transfer time.  Wow, tomorrow is Friday already-- this is it, right?  I've got everything crossed for you!!!

 

Deborah, good luck with things!

 

Blue, I'll grab the recipe and post it a little later.  If I knew you irl I would pop over with some for you, along with some homemade treats for Abby.  She looks like such a sweetheart in that new pic.  Oh yeah, we could even have doggy playdates!  You guys are going to be busssssyyyyyyy these next few days, yay for getting on with things!

 

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Tenzi - Can't wait for the recipe.  I LOVE LOVE LOVE Butter chicken and when I crave it at times I have to order it with friends for lunch b/c DH doesn't like Indian food.  I'd love to have you come over and have a doggie play date.  Abby loves to play with other dogs.  Too bad we weren't closer in distance. :o(  Wow, that situation with your "friend"  is really kinda sad.  I do the same thing... "tendency to expect others to do things that I would do for them if the situation were reversed"... sometimes I think i care too much and wonder why others don't do the same.  Who knows.

 

Renavoo - Good luck tomorrow. Hope you had a good & safe trip. Keep us posted!

 

Belly - just sending you lots of hugs today!hug2.gif  Life is so not fair!!!  Tomorrow will be better... it has to be!!  It will be your day one of these days.

 

Kewpie - glad to hear your appt went so well. Hope these next couple weeks go by fast and I'm glad to hear that you have date night to look forward to!!  Fun!  I hope you have a tv in your bedroom.    We don't and when i was pregnant i thought if i have to go on bedrest we are going to have to change that.

 

Brichole - thanks for stopping by and your kinda words.

 

Tear - Hope you and the babe are doing well.  How old is she now.  Hope you are getting more sleep by now.  I'm hoping that the drive goes smooth.  It'd be nice if she would sleep a lot of the way but then once we get there then I might have a terror on my hands.  Good news is i just found out that "the aunt"  has a treadmill so that is great b/c when the weather is yucky around here I have been running her on our treadmill so that is a good thing.


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belly, i'm right there with you.  when do we not feel heart broken?  i came home from work last night and cried uncontrollably for two hours.  nothing in particular set me off, just felt so sad.  my husband feels bad and doesn't know how to comfort me, but really i don't think i can be comforted.  of course later that night one of my best friends told me that she found out from an early ultrasound that they think she is having a boy... and on to more crying before bed.  

 

kewpie, i agree with you about the comfort everyone online provides.  i always feel terrible talking to my best friends about this.  they know what's happening, of course, but i am always afraid to bring it up too much.  one friend seems to get very distant, probably because she doesn't know how to handle my depression about infertility, and i know she's already or soon to be trying for a second child.  another friend just had her third child and while she's very supportive i don't want to mope so much because i feel like i am taking away the joy she has for her own children.  and of course two others are currently pregnant.  i had been planning with my friend (who is having the boy) to be pregnant together since we were 15 years old.  she's gone through a divorce and now in a new relationship and still managed to get pregnant before me.  she keeps trying to make me feel better, but it went from "we will be pregnant at the same time!" to "i'll only be a few months ahead of you" to "well you can have all my infant clothes when my baby grows out of them"...  it's the worst.  

 

i finally made the appt to talk to my RE on tuesday.  i am really afraid of what she will say.  i have so many questions that i'm afraid she is going to think i've spent too much time on the internet and blow me off.  i am curious if we can try IUI with donor sperm, since i feel like the more medicine they gave me, the worse my egg quality.  but i'm also afraid they'll be like "sure we can try" but really it will just be a waste of time and money.  i am also curious because when i went for my yearly physical at the end of my first ivf cycle, my dr mentioned that my white blood cell level was elevated.  maybe i have an immunity issue?  i also question if maybe i have pcos.  i never had any cysts, but i do have many of the other symptoms.  i've been reading that it is possible to have pcos without cysts.  seriously, if i ask her these questions is she going to think i'm a lunatic and just shake her head at me?  are these questions worth asking? how many more times do we keep spinning our wheels with IF treatments?  if we went straight to ivf and it hasn't worked in two cycles, what other options are there? 


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belly - Hugs to you today.  We all have days like that.  I still do when I think about my baby that should now be 2 months old.  Due date, timelines, and such are so hard.  I hope the next 3 weeks move swiftly and aren't too hard to get through.  

 

Tenzins - Nerves of steel eh?  I think I'm mostly numb to a lot of things.  I just plug along and then I break down later.  I had a bit of a breakdown on tuesday when I thought about what *could* have happened this past weekend.  It crushed me a little bit.

 

Knitting has been really great especially when going through treatments.  The rhythmic movements allow me to kind of zone out or I can do an intricate pattern to keep my mind too busy to think.  The site is Ravelry.com and you have to request an invite, (or at least you used to) but it usually comes within an hour.  The pregnancy after loss group is extremely active and these women have become like sisters to me (much like here).  If you do decide to join, look up foofyboo (that's me) by clicking on the "people" button at the top and then searching for my name.  Send me a message and I'll help direct you to the group.  If anyone else is interested in the group (or any others.. there are plenty for infertility and such) just let me know and I'll help you find it.  If you would like to learn knitting, youtube is AWESOME for finding instructional videos.  I actually have known how to crochet since I was about 8 yrs old, but wanted to learn knitting a few years ago and used youtube to teach myself.  

 

blue - actually, our ONLY tv is in the bedroom. haha We watch a lot of netflix to wind down before bed and it just made sense to have our tv in the bedroom since we never watch it any other time.  During the day, we're too busy to even have it on. I don't plan on letting the kids watch it much at all unless we watch as a family, so it'll probably stay in our room until we don't all fit in bed anymore. (gosh I hope to have that problem someday)

 

aura - I had a friend that I made deals with about pregnancy too.  We've been best friends since we were 4 yrs old.  Her oldest is 11 and her youngest is 7.  Yeah... didn't work out so well.  I think that's why online groups like this work so well cause they pair you up with others who are in the same boat.  My husband will probably never understand, but at least he doesn't mind that I do it.  As long as it's helpful, there's no harm IMO.

 

As for the PCOS, I have it (diagnosed at 17) and I don't always have cysts.  In fact, more often than not, I don't.  When I do get them, they are pretty painful, especially when they burst, but I've had many u/s that showed none.  It's a very complex disorder and can be difficult to properly diagnose.  I've actually been diagnosed twice, cause another doctor was second guessing the first. If you think you have it, I would get checked out.  

 

I don't think she'll think you're crazy for asking tons of questions.  I'm sure she gets that all the time.  It's her job to answer them, especially since you've had 2 failed cycles.  

 

AFM - I hope y'all don't get sick of hearing from me. :)  I have caught up on sleep and have plenty of freetime.... lol


Me: 33 PCOS Him: 33 vericocele
13 long years of TTC using various methods before the twins finally came - Too much history to list
IVF #1 11 weeks
IVF #2 Liam and Maisie (now 3 years old)
IVF #3 BFN and no frosties
IVF #4 BFP!!!! Aedric and Harold 1/13/15
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