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Hi... I am on both MET and Clomid, low dose asprin, EPO and Fish oil....

I was wondering what dosage and cd these meds were taken to get a BFP... Also, I would like to know other little things that were done in the cycle leading up to the BFP... This is for my personal info, to see if there is anything that I can do to increase my chances of becoming pregnant.
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vitamins....good ones, not grocery store "prenatal" formula ones....
Maybe rainbow light prenatals? OR a good health food store vitamin, preferably whole-foods based?

I added in sublingual B12, as did DH....he also took a regiman to make his little guys as healthy as they could be.....B-12, A, C, zinc are all really important for men....also...NO cottonseed oil and NO hot baths/showers at all....

For me....io added in thyroid....even though my thyroid was borderline..apparently, it needed just taht tiny little extra bit....that was rewqlly the biggest thing, I think..it was the only big change..after 4 years, including natural therapies, chiro, accu, nutrition, exercise, met, clomid, etc, within 2 weeks of being on thyroid medicine, i was preggo. Was it coincidence? maybe....but likely not.

i'm sorry..it saeems like i should remember more about you, but i dont....are you guys working through a doctor? Have you done postcoital tests to rule out antibody issues? 11 years is just a REALLY long time....are you wiling to try IUI or something like that?

What else......oh YA...right before i got preggo....i was REALLY sick..like, BURNNING with a really hiugh temperature (104+) for a couple days sick....
I believe that temp somehow helped me conceive...perhaps by doing something to my metab9lism, slearing out some infection i didn't knwo i had...I know that i have read that in some Europena countrie, one of the first lines of treatemnt for "unexplained" fertility is a strong broad-spectrum antibiotic...to clear up any subclinical infections and stuff......i don't know...but it seems like a potential avenue..perhaps you could take some REALLY hots baths, really, get your temp up to "sweat out" any bad things?


sigh...I know there was more....I have found that when i eat REALLY well, my cycle gets better on its own..i get REALLY good CM when i eat weel....our current pro-natural doctor told me something that works REALY well...consider raw green leafy vegetable to be there own food group. Eat several serving s a day from this group. It bites, cuz you're basically eating salad every fricken day, but i know that i get REALLY good CM when i do this, and more regular cycles....
Also, on the topic of CM...clomid tends to thicken it up, so making sure you are doing something to counteract that is good...
ALSO, take your clomid on days 3-7, or 1-5. Statistically, days 3-7 tends to work better than 5-9, but there is some evidence 1-5 works even better....

Do you check dh every year or so? We lost an entire year because dh had developed a temporary issue, and once we got to the point where i was FINALLY ovulating, he stopped making sperm....how annoying. Apparently, men can have issues crop up at any time, withut warning...so at a minimum, a yearly check on him should be done...

Is your weight in the normal range, or are you an overweight PCOS'er? If you are overweight, losing even 5-10 pounds can shock your body into a pregnancy.....

Also, a BIG one...metformin tends to deplete levels of folic acid in the body, terefore, most women who are on it tens toi take prescription (or just several tablets of OTC) folic acid....in general, a woman won't get preggo if she doesn't have enough folic acid to prevent birth defects.....instead of the 400mcg for women (800 mcg for preggo/ttc women) most Met ttc'ers take around 2000 mcg of folic acid......


EPO can mess with hormones....so I'd maybe lay off that for a while.....take the fish oil, and maybe flax if you want another good oil..or coconut...

2000mg met is a high dose, as im sure you know.....unless you are very obese, its orolly not worth it to go any higher....100 mg clomid is also pretty high.....but a cycle or two at 150 couldn't hurt, if tis doesnt work...or perhaps you could go on Femara instead?
Femara works like clomid, but doesn;t thin the uterine lining..it is fast becoming the new standard/drug of choice to induce ovulationm......this next time around, I'll likelt use it instead of clomid.....it just works better...really....there has been some hoopla because if you take it WHILE pregnant, it can cause birth defects, but taking uit to induce ovulation is perfectly safe.....and again, it works better than clomid for many women....

that all i can think of right now...ll

best of luck!

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Ive only just started seeing a dr again last Feb. He prescribed all these meds, and I am only on my second cycle of clomid. The 11yrs represents how long dh and i have been a couple. We only used protection the first month and have had unprotected intercourse every since. I guess we kinda thought it would happen naturally. We got married in 1998, and in 2001 decided to really start charting and planning bd to insure we wernt doing anything wrong. Along the way i had a couple of light line positives that resulted in nothing. I decided to got to the charity clinic. They prescribed loestrin for 6 months and provera to jump start my cycle. At that time I would go sometimes two months to a year without af.

When we moved to Oklahoma last year, due to the hurricane, we decided to see a specialist. Being that I am Indian all my dr visits and meds in Oklahoma are free. So I went to see a fertility specialists... Well my cycles are now regulated to 30-32days and now I am on second round of clomid and waiting for my miracle. Oh before I started the clomid, he prescribed a high dose of antibiotics for both me and dh to ensure that we both didnt have an infection anywhere...

IVF and all that is not covered. Only certain means of fertility treatment. And since I have PCOS..... I get higher doses and more meds offered to me. I know that is nothing to be proud of, bc if i didnt have pcos, I probably would be like on my fourth kid or something. LOL
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Ok..sdo you haven't used meds a whole lot....
Honeslt, yI think you have a GREAT shot....metformin with clomid or just met alone really works for a large percentage of women with PCOS...getting your cycle regulated is certainly good...the abx were good...(although you have re-colonized yourself with probiotics, right? acidophilus and others?)

And, dh HAS been checked, right? no use you ruining your body taking all those drugs, increasing your odds of getting cancer later in life, to find out he didn't have any lil swimmers....

Otherwise....I'd say you guys are likely doing what's right...getting your PCOS under control, cycling, doing the deed....in general, they say that it takes about 2-6 months for met to regulate your cycles, ...and once you add in clomid, you are normally given 6 months to try...after that, you cant take clomis any longer, usually.....so you're on the right track!!

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I had been taking Metformin for about 6 months and was on my 3rd round of Clomid (after uterine surgery for septum.)

I really paid attention to the "sex every 48 hours" rule- the first 2 months I'm afraid we did it too much.

I used an expectorant (guanefesin) to thin cervical mucus.

I had lost about 25 pounds in the 6 months before getting pregnant.

Don't know if it helped, but I did a lot of yoga with a lot of meditation and visualization and lots of stress reduction at work.

Good luck- wish you well.
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Yes dh has a 14yr old son that we have custody of, and was also checked about a year ago. My dr said that if i dont conceive next cycle that he will call for another sample of dh sperm.

[/QUOTE] although you have re-colonized yourself with probiotics, right? acidophilus and others[/QUOTE]

Im sorry I dont know what that means :

I actually need to lose 40lbs. I had lost 20 last month, but am now working at a desk 9hrs a day and have gained 10 back. I just started eating healthier last week. I plan on losing that 10 this month... I will!!!!

Thanks guys.. there are a few things in your responses that I dont understand tho... Sorry!!!
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I was on Metformin XR for 2 years before my sticky pregnancy and 3 months before my BFP we added clomid. Also in my medication line up was/is Heparin, HCG trigger shots, progesterone suppositories, prenatals and folgard. Some of the medications were added due to my miscarriages and to protect the baby. Truthfully, I don't know what made August the cycle for us. I actually didn't take my Clomid that month because I needed a medication break. It was just truly God's timing, I think.
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Thanks alot... I have heard so many different little tweaks that can be done in the cycle to give that extra boost. Now I am reading that some people take there clomid on days 5-9 and others 3-7... which is better and why??? anyone got a clue... I am taking mine on cd3-7 per dr, but a couple of people that are on here are taking 5-9 got preg already. Does the days make a difference?
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From what I gathered from my dr's office, they have you do one or the other based on when potential ovulation would occur....if you had to do an in-office procedure (i.e. ultrasound, iui, etc.), they're trying to time ovulation to occur during the M-F workweek. I know some fertility clinics are open on weekends, but mine isn't.
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The days you take the Clomid is supposed to change when you ovulate. For me it really didn't matter. If I a remembering right I ovulated on CD 15 when I took Clomid from days 3-7.
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CD 15 is the day I o'd on the first round of clomid, but second round I "think" I o'd on cd18. My opk was positive on cd17 and cm there. I don't know so we bd both to make sure. Didn't work either way... LOL O well here is to a fresh cycle..... on all my thousand meds!!!!!!!!
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To jump on to the clomid question.......days 5-9 used to be the common protocol, NOW they usually (at least the most pregressive, cutting-edge clicnics) recommend days 3-7 because ALL the research shows that it works better....some even do days 1-5, although that is controversial...so far, the research has shown that it is a double edged-sword...less women ovulate on that protocol, BUT, of the women who DO ovulate, a much higher percentage of them actually CONCEIVE! SO...I would not even consider using a 5-9 protocol, I would tend towards the 3-7....personally, I did days 2-6 (i only did a 4 day regimen, and with a half-dose, my personal choice) and O'ed every time.

But..all that aside...I'd personally use femara the next time around....it works better with less side effects. Can't really beat that.

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[QUOTE=bobandjess99;6790304] SO...I would not even consider using a 5-9 protocol, I would tend towards the 3-7....personally, I did days 2-6 (i only did a 4 day regimen, and with a half-dose, my personal choice) and O'ed every time.

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There are two ladies on here that I talk to frequently and they both did the 5-9 and conceived. I however am on the 3-7 and have not. That is why I was asking. But maybe we are the ones that fall thru the cracks. LOL TTC is so confusing and unpredictable. Thanks for your imput... I was considering switching to 5-9, but you have successfully changed my mind. 3-7 for me. Except I forgot to take my meds on cd3 and had to start on cd4... I hope I didn't mess up there....
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