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Luna,

It's very easy to get a SA. His GP can order it, your OB can order it, an RE can order it. All he needs is the cup and a script to take to the lab.

Did you get an antral follicle count? What about 7dpo progesterone level? There is also a bunch of bloodwork that can be done on CD3 (FSH, estradiol).

Hang in there girl. You guys will get this figured out, and you'll get your baby. And we're here to help! Wow, that sounds kind of creepy, doesn't it! I don't mean it like that. Ha ha.
LMAO you crack me up. :

Cool, I will make sure he asks for one (damnit!) at his appointment next week.

Nope, I didn't have an ultrasound or any sort of testing that was to be done on a specific day of the cycle. Guess that's next, huh? The thing is, the doc I saw whom I thought was a GP *and* an OB apparently is just a Family Practitioner. Can she do any further testing?

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Luna - the GP could order the CD3 bloodwork, but might not be so knowledgeable in terms of what to order, and how to interpret it... if you can, I would get a referral to an RE doctor. They will know better what tests to do and how to prioritize them (especially if you are on a budget). We prioritized and did some cheaper testing first (still expensive) and now we're moving on to the HSG and a bigger workup, after 3 IUIs failed.
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Luna - the GP could order the CD3 bloodwork, but might not be so knowledgeable in terms of what to order, and how to interpret it... if you can, I would get a referral to an RE doctor. They will know better what tests to do and how to prioritize them (especially if you are on a budget). We prioritized and did some cheaper testing first (still expensive) and now we're moving on to the HSG and a bigger workup, after 3 IUIs failed.
Thanks for the suggestions! I don't need a referral to see a specialist w/my insurance, but I may ask her to suggest someone anyway. Also, my insurance covers infertility testing, but not treatment (or not much anyway).

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Luna!!! You have infertility diagnostics coverage???? Get your butt to an RE! You've been doing well timed cycles for a while now, so they will definitely do a workup on you and your DH. At least call to make an appointment, it can take a while to get in. good luck, and keep us posted!
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Luna!!! You have infertility diagnostics coverage???? Get your butt to an RE! You've been doing well timed cycles for a while now, so they will definitely do a workup on you and your DH. At least call to make an appointment, it can take a while to get in. good luck, and keep us posted!
Luna, one quick note. Do check with your insurance beforehand. I know that for mine we had to be "trying" for a minimum of 12 months (for anyone under 35) in order to get coverage for any infertility work. It sucks, especially since we already knew we had a problem. But, it is paid for so I don't complain too much. Good luck!

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you don't actually have to prove you have been trying for 12 month. How would they know?
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Hi!

I've been mostly lurking in this forum for a while. We've been TTC #2 for a year and had an initial evaluation with an RE last week. It was very thorough, loads of bloodwork, vaginal u/s, paperwork that took forever. I have two large cysts on my left ovary that are suspicious for endometriosis. Based on my paperwork/history the RE also suspects PCOS. It's a lot think about and I've been trying to read and research as much as possible (not easy with the search engine here down!). I have a sonohysterogram (saline ultrasound) scheduled for Thursday along with fasting bloodwork. I think this is bad timing. It's suggested that I take 800mg of Motrin before the sonohysterogram, but on an empty stomach?? It's also mid-cycle for me. The RE didn't seem concerned about that, but I think I've ovulated this weekend. What if, by some miracle, I actually conceived? I need to call them in the morning with these questions.

I'm sort of overwhelmed by everything. I never really expected to find myself here. The RE wants to do a laparoscopy to confirm the endometriosis. I can't quite wrap my head around this. I'm worried about the surgery and recovery time. I don't have any family in the area to help out. I know this is minor in the grand scheme of things, but it's huge to me right now as I start this journey.

How did you decide on a timeline for tests/drugs/cycle tracking, etc? It seems so inconvenient and I'm pretty unhappy about that I keep thinking about all the swim lessons we will miss if we track cycles this summer. Working around vacations might prove impossible. Maybe I should postpone all this until summer is over. . . . or maybe that is my denial staring me in the face?
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Luna!!! You have infertility diagnostics coverage???? Get your butt to an RE! You've been doing well timed cycles for a while now, so they will definitely do a workup on you and your DH. At least call to make an appointment, it can take a while to get in. good luck, and keep us posted!
Yes, I believe so. Will have to double-check though. I don't even know how to search for an RE.... ?

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Luna, one quick note. Do check with your insurance beforehand. I know that for mine we had to be "trying" for a minimum of 12 months (for anyone under 35) in order to get coverage for any infertility work. It sucks, especially since we already knew we had a problem. But, it is paid for so I don't complain too much. Good luck!
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you don't actually have to prove you have been trying for 12 month. How would they know?
It's been almost 10 months now, so not that far off, but as biomama said... how would they know?

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Well, I got knocked up while we were on hold, lol!

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Our insurance also has the 12 TTC wait, but they have no way of knowing how long you've actually been TTC. I knew we had a problem, since we have had both times we TTC (actually this 3rd time it was even worse, since tubes are blocked), so we just lied and said we had been TTC for 12 months.

Though, you may not even have to! Sometimes it takes a couple of months to get into your first appointment, so you'd be there right on time

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Our insurance also has the 12 TTC wait, but they have no way of knowing how long you've actually been TTC. I knew we had a problem, since we have had both times we TTC (actually this 3rd time it was even worse, since tubes are blocked), so we just lied and said we had been TTC for 12 months.

Though, you may not even have to! Sometimes it takes a couple of months to get into your first appointment, so you'd be there right on time
Yeah, I will admit we didn't "try" too hard for the first few months. I also knew we had a problem so there wasn't much point, but we didn't use bc, so technically we met their criteria.

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Hi Voltige,

I know it seems completely overwhelming and super hard to go through this entire process but I found that I'm much stronger than I had originally thought myself to be, as I'm sure you will find that out about yourself. To be truthful, it's definitely not the most fun way to spend your summer. I pretty much did all of what you are about to do almost 6 months ago and it was tough to wrap my head around it as well. At 26 I didn't think I would be where i'm at so i completely understand your sense of unhappiness about the whole process. It sounds like your RE is thorough and that's always a good thing. I don't have endometriosis but I was told I had PCOS-like ovaries since they seem to find small cysts every month.

For us, the timing wasn't a huge thought since we are both very impatient people and after 7 or 8 months of trying naturally starting the tests, tracking and drugs was the only way to go. I can't lie and tell you that it's not inconvenient. We've had to cancel a trip or two because either our IUI's, or the monitoring (my RE wants to see me practically every day) fell on a day when I needed to be home. All that being said, I'm sure it'll be worth it the day I get to hold my first baby and i keep repeating that to myself every time I get poked and prodded and want to give up.

Good luck with everything, no matter what you decide this forum is a great place to get support or just to vent if you need it. I've been lurking for weeks and finally just started to post myself and I find that it helps to speak to other women who are going through this stuff. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you
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laralee, congratulations. like I said in my earlier post... unlikely things do sometimes happen!

luna, I agree that once you have the SA results you should go to a RE (regardless of what the results are). Even a regular OB doesn't really have a lot of tools in the toolbox, and may be less knowledgeable about what tests to run and what to look for.

Voltige, if it's at all possible that you might have conceived, postpone the test until you're sure. As for the inconvenience, I've been going for my ultrasound and bloodwork in the morning before work. We're planning a vacation at the beginning of September, and if fertility stuff is going to interfere with that we'll just take that month off. Who knows, I might conceive by then. I don't see why swimming or other normal activity should be affected, although I do have to admit that running to the clinic every few days can get annoying.

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For us, the timing wasn't a huge thought since we are both very impatient people and after 7 or 8 months of trying naturally starting the tests, tracking and drugs was the only way to go. I can't lie and tell you that it's not inconvenient. We've had to cancel a trip or two because either our IUI's, or the monitoring (my RE wants to see me practically every day) fell on a day when I needed to be home. All that being said, I'm sure it'll be worth it the day I get to hold my first baby and i keep repeating that to myself every time I get poked and prodded and want to give up.

Good luck with everything, no matter what you decide this forum is a great place to get support or just to vent if you need it. I've been lurking for weeks and finally just started to post myself and I find that it helps to speak to other women who are going through this stuff. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you
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Voltige, if it's at all possible that you might have conceived, postpone the test until you're sure. As for the inconvenience, I've been going for my ultrasound and bloodwork in the morning before work. We're planning a vacation at the beginning of September, and if fertility stuff is going to interfere with that we'll just take that month off. Who knows, I might conceive by then. I don't see why swimming or other normal activity should be affected, although I do have to admit that running to the clinic every few days can get annoying.
Yes, I will call them this afternoon to discuss rescheduling. We've not conceived in a year of trying so I doubt I did this weekend either. BUT, waiting another couple weeks for this test won't kill me and then I'll be sure.

I was just lamenting about summer because of all the stuff I want to do with the child I DO have- like swimming lessons, etc. I don't know how to schedule things if I am going to be running to the RE every few days? Also, I don't know how soon I can resume swimming and other activities after a laparoscopy. Clearly I need more answers
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Its been a while since I posted here and I need to update myself on everyone here.

My breakdown
-Didn’t temp this cycle (needed a break)
-CD 48 currently
-Post-O symptoms since June 9th (sore breasts, nausea, back cramps which his also a late PMS symptom, and so on)
-Tested with second morning urine on June 21 BFN. Granted, it was SMU, and the test was expired by five months.
-Still having the normal post-O symptoms...

I am deciding on seeing a new ND that specializes in infertility or an RE at least for updated testing….

For now, this is the longest cycle I had in over a year. I dont want to resort to progestrone, but I may have to.
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I need to vent. It's the same old song and dance, nothing new, but I think I need a hug. I'm terrified that I'm not going to respond to the Femara. I don't want to go to injectibles or IVF, but I see no other option. I'm scared of what this is going to do to my relationship with dh... we're in the "sex on a schedule" part of this, and neither of us wants to. The stress is getting to me... I have good days and bad days, and today is definitely a bad day.

Is it the drugs making me feel this way? Or just the stress of the situation? I want to scream and cry and hit things.

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I need to vent. It's the same old song and dance, nothing new, but I think I need a hug. I'm terrified that I'm not going to respond to the Femara. I don't want to go to injectibles or IVF, but I see no other option. I'm scared of what this is going to do to my relationship with dh... we're in the "sex on a schedule" part of this, and neither of us wants to. The stress is getting to me... I have good days and bad days, and today is definitely a bad day.

Is it the drugs making me feel this way? Or just the stress of the situation? I want to scream and cry and hit things.
I never used Femara, so my answer is: stress. I soooo know the feelings you are going through and unfortunately, it common with dealing with IF - drugs or no drugs.

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I need to vent. It's the same old song and dance, nothing new, but I think I need a hug. I'm terrified that I'm not going to respond to the Femara. I don't want to go to injectibles or IVF, but I see no other option. I'm scared of what this is going to do to my relationship with dh... we're in the "sex on a schedule" part of this, and neither of us wants to. The stress is getting to me... I have good days and bad days, and today is definitely a bad day.

Is it the drugs making me feel this way? Or just the stress of the situation? I want to scream and cry and hit things.
I too know this feeling. It could be a mix of both the drugs and the stress. This infertility stuff is hard. In fact, I'm ashamed to admit that our dd may have been conceived on one of those "darn it, we're doing it tonight because I didn't take all these drugs for naught!! (cleaned up version)" days. We hope it was the next day when it was much more loving, but . . .we'll never know.

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I need to vent. It's the same old song and dance, nothing new, but I think I need a hug. I'm terrified that I'm not going to respond to the Femara. I don't want to go to injectibles or IVF, but I see no other option. I'm scared of what this is going to do to my relationship with dh... we're in the "sex on a schedule" part of this, and neither of us wants to. The stress is getting to me... I have good days and bad days, and today is definitely a bad day.

Is it the drugs making me feel this way? Or just the stress of the situation? I want to scream and cry and hit things.
I have to say, Femara made me CRAZY!!!! Only did it for one cycle, because I cried for literally 3 weeks STRAIGHT! I finally got my period and moved on to a new cycle, and I was FINE but man that Femara cycle was tough.

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I need to vent. It's the same old song and dance, nothing new, but I think I need a hug. I'm terrified that I'm not going to respond to the Femara. I don't want to go to injectibles or IVF, but I see no other option. I'm scared of what this is going to do to my relationship with dh... we're in the "sex on a schedule" part of this, and neither of us wants to. The stress is getting to me... I have good days and bad days, and today is definitely a bad day.

Is it the drugs making me feel this way? Or just the stress of the situation? I want to scream and cry and hit things.
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thanks, all. it really does help. is it bad that I almost wish we were doing IUI so we could avoid the sex on a schedule? (I know the answer to this one, I've heard enough other people talk about what a relief IUI was vs. intercourse. But it's sort of disconcerting to feel it myself.)

Aly, I'm doing about as well on the Femara as I did on the Clomid. Better, if you consider that I have no weird vision issues on the Femara. I was this emotional with the Clomid too, so it could be either the drugs or the stress or both.

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thanks, all. it really does help. is it bad that I almost wish we were doing IUI so we could avoid the sex on a schedule? (I know the answer to this one, I've heard enough other people talk about what a relief IUI was vs. intercourse. But it's sort of disconcerting to feel it myself.)
I've only had the initial evaluation with my RE, but I got the impression that IUI was pretty standard with any of the drugs he would want me to try. A friend who has used the same RE said the same thing. Not that we won't discuss "sex on a schedule" but I honestly think IUI will happen pretty quickly for us once we get things going. I don't think there is anything wrong with wishing and DOING it, if at this point it would help save some sanity and perhaps your relationship.
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I need to vent. It's the same old song and dance, nothing new, but I think I need a hug. I'm terrified that I'm not going to respond to the Femara. I don't want to go to injectibles or IVF, but I see no other option. I'm scared of what this is going to do to my relationship with dh... we're in the "sex on a schedule" part of this, and neither of us wants to. The stress is getting to me... I have good days and bad days, and today is definitely a bad day.

Is it the drugs making me feel this way? Or just the stress of the situation? I want to scream and cry and hit things.

I know how you feel and I say blame it on the drugs!!
But seriously, I have the same good days and bad days and the drugs definitely don't help. The Clomid was terrible for me. By day 3 I was crying over spilled milk, literally. As for the "sex on a schedule" it got to the point where we were forcing ourselves by the 3rd or 4th day straight. Not that it's not great to get some...but it certainly does kill something when you have to have it no matter how your day was or how either one of you is feeling. I do have to say the IUI's have relieved that sense of "duty" and have made sex more fun again. I wish there were some magic words that could cure all...but since that doesn't seem to be the case, I hope that at the very least knowing that other people went through or are going through the same process and feeling the same things helps. I went to injectables after 2 rounds of Clomid (it was determined they weren't doing enough of what they were supposed to) and I'm the biggest wuss going. So if i can do it, anyone can. So try not to be too scared about it. Hang in there...
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I too know this feeling. It could be a mix of both the drugs and the stress. This infertility stuff is hard. In fact, I'm ashamed to admit that our dd may have been conceived on one of those "darn it, we're doing it tonight because I didn't take all these drugs for naught!! (cleaned up version)" days. We hope it was the next day when it was much more loving, but . . .we'll never know.
I have said those words several times in the last couple of months! My dh isn't really happy about having to take fertility drugs since we conceived DD w/o anything (huge surprise pregnancy). Just doesn't seem fair that everythiing we have to do in this whole process is either painful, time consuming, or makes you feel like crap!! But, @ least we will hopefully get rewarded by actually getting preg!!
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Songbird, big IF drugs can certainly take their toll.

I'm still sitting in the two week wait and, I'm really doing ok, surprisingly. Not a clue if I'm pregnant or not but I should find out soon enough. I have lots of probably-just-in-my-head symptoms but I'm managing well with it so far. (hope I don't jinx myself.) I haven't decided if I'm going to test or wait for AF. Right now I'm leaning more toward waiting for AF. I hate BFNs and I like to think of myself as pregnant until proven otherwise.

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Its been a while since I posted here and I need to update myself on everyone here.

My breakdown
-Didn’t temp this cycle (needed a break)
-CD 48 currently
-Post-O symptoms since June 9th (sore breasts, nausea, back cramps which his also a late PMS symptom, and so on)
-Tested with second morning urine on June 21 BFN. Granted, it was SMU, and the test was expired by five months.
-Still having the normal post-O symptoms...

I am deciding on seeing a new ND that specializes in infertility or an RE at least for updated testing….

For now, this is the longest cycle I had in over a year. I dont want to resort to progestrone, but I may have to.
Ugh, it is so frustrating, isn't it? I decide we're not ttc for this cycle or that length of time, and my cycles seem to finally develop a pattern. When I get my hopes up and jump back in the game, everything gets wonky again. When do you see your ND? I'm debating on whether to seek out a new RE, since I'm feeling like a lost cause with our current dr (and they don't know what to do with us, either, it seems).

We're here to listen if you need to some ears and a cyber-hug.
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How do I find an RE, ladies? Google?
I got mine through my insurance carrier directory (to find one in my network). I have also gotten recommendations from my OB and at local online review websites (like Yelp, UC Berkeley Parents newsletter, etc).

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Originally Posted by filiadeluna View Post
How do I find an RE, ladies? Google?
You can also ask for recommendations in Finding Your Tribe area. Or, if you have names from insurance, ask in that section for any input or experiences with those doctors. If you do think you are heading toward IVF, success rates are on the CDC website for each lab. However, this might not matter if you don't need it. Hope that helps.

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