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Thanks you guys I think that I did too, FF finaly said it this morning, Last cycle what really weird because I Oed so late. Day 26, Crazy so I was really trying to stay on top of it this cycle so I would know when it was.
So you are saying that after about 2 high temp it is ok to DTD with no POM ? That sounds to good to be true,, I think that I my gh would so not be into that...

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I noticed that my temp does that sometimes too. I think it's the thermometer. When it's really cold I'll take it twice. I always get a big jump on those days. Lately I've been grabbing my thermometer and holding it for like 5 min before I take my temp. It's been pretty stable since I've been doing that.
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So you are saying that after about 2 high temp it is ok to DTD with no POM ?
No, it's not safe to dtd until after 3 high temps, preferably coinciding with the 4th day of CF dry up. I disagree with FF, though. I don't think you Oed until cd22 so I'd wait for one more high temp tomorrow before considering it safe.

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Hmm... I guess it seems weird to me because normally my post-O temps are higher than that. But yes, that one temp was weird and taken later than normal.
It's the pattern of low temps followed by high temps that is important, not the actual temps themselves. Although I think most women have a normal range for themselves, they can be different.

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Does anyone want to reassure me that ovulating on cd8 is, while possible, not horribly common?
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Thanks you guys I think that I did too, FF finaly said it this morning, Last cycle what really weird because I Oed so late. Day 26, Crazy so I was really trying to stay on top of it this cycle so I would know when it was.
So you are saying that after about 2 high temp it is ok to DTD with no POM ? That sounds to good to be true,, I think that I my gh would so not be into that...
Not quite. I said 1 more high temp tomorrow will confirm an O and you will be safe to DTD. Like marinewife said, you need 3 temps above the coverline and 4 days past your peak fertile day and you are safe. Right now, you have 2 temps above the coverline so if tomorrow is high you are good to go.
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Today's temp was weird. I took it about an hr earlier than normal and it was 96.81. I thought it was an error so I checked again and it was 97.52. I was still in bed so I didn't really have a chance to raise my temp by being active. I was freezing all night and wonder if that had anything to do with it. This cycle has been funny but similar to the rest in a way. I O'd on cd 15 and I usually o on or around cd 17-19. Oh well. Any thoughts on this.
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a particular day, or within a range of days, doesn't mean you always will. O day can vary from cycle to cycle. It's the LP that stays pretty constant, but even that can vary a day or 2 and still be normal.
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CD 25 for me. My temp jumped today. It's higher than it has EVER been.
Can anyone relate to this?...
I haven't been recording CP or internal CF this cycle. I kind of felt like when I was checking those that I kind of let myself feel and see what I thought it "should" be according to what I have read. Is that confusing?
I guess I just want to see the temp jump and rely on that. I note cf if it actually is there when I wipe.

DH and I had a fight this weekend about condoms. He has been away during the week and comes home for the weekends. Last weekend was awesome, this weekend was terrible. After I O, I am always pretty dry. DH doesn't trust that I won't get pregnant even after O, so he wants to use condoms all the time, ALL THE TIME! Honestly, it really hurts when I am post O. I don't like lube, it's irritating to me. Anyway, he got mad when I said I wanted to do it without condoms, even when I tried to ensure him that I could not possible get pregnant because I had O's 5 days prior. We both went to bed mad. Didn't dtd all weekend. Sorry for the novel.
I'm so sorry.
Your DH really needs to get with the program and know what he's talking about. Can you convince him to read even the tiniest thing? again.
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marinemommy, if i was you i'd tell him this point blank:

"until you are interested in learning how the female body works i'm not interested in having sex with you. end of story."

but, that's just me
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Thanks for the hugs ReikiMommy. He's never interested in reading anything that doesn't involve, cars, guns, muscles, or stupid pointless online war games. I've tried and tried and tried again to get him to read about MANY things that pertain to fertility, family, children, homeschool, vaxes...the list could go on and on.

Akaisha, I tell him that often. I think he would rather not dtd than read about my uterus and ovaries!! He would rather trust the condoms than take his chances of getting me pg after I've already ovulated!! Dummy!!

I wish we would come across a condom with a pin prick. Maybe then he would wish he would have read the book and listened to me. I always warn him when I am fertile, he always says "we'll just use a condom" then when we're done dtd he fills the condom up with water to check for holes (gross I know) he is so dumb!!
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That stinks, marinemommy. My dh doesn't get all of this stuff, either, even though I've explained it to him many times and he's read about it. Maybe it's a Marine thing. Maybe try printing some quick and easy bullet type info out comparing the efficacy of condoms to the efficacy of cta and just leave it lying around. I'm sort of with akaisha. If he's not willing to learn about it and just has a hissy when he doesn't get things his way, he can go without. It's really not fair when you have a legitimate reason for not wanting to use condoms, like the fact that it hurts you.

I think I've started another cycle. I've had very light bleeding today. I guess that means I had another very short anov cycle, only 16 days this time.

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MarineMommy, UGH. That is completely ridiculous. I'm sure you've already tried this but my only suggestion is to sit down with him (when nobody's wanting to DTD) and give the absolute briefest, easiest to understand summary of why CTA works and why certain points of the cycle have basically zero chance of pregnancy. Does he not understand that condoms have a failure rate too? If he's that scared of pregnancy, he needs to keep that in mind I would think.


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I'm sort of with akaisha. If he's not willing to learn about it and just has a hissy when he doesn't get things his way, he can go without.
Going without can be effective for a while, but if it goes on too long it's horrible for a marriage, esp. if your DH has no clue why you're making him go without (b/c he won't learn why). I speak from experience here... Anyway, if it gets too bad for you, MarineMommy, you should consider seeing a sex/marriage therapist, either with your DH, or at least alone. So terribly sorry you're going through this!!!
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THank you all for your kind responses. DH is pretty dumb when it comes to stuff like researching!! I bookmarked the TCOYF chapter I wanted him to read, I have even tried to talk with him about when we can dtd safely w/o condoms. I did point out that condoms have a failure rate too!! I guess I'm going to have to make a point of not dtd until he gets on the same page as me. He will get mad at me I know it. I can deal with it though!! I think ReikiMommy has a point though, which is why I can only hold out so long before I will just dtd for the sake of our marriage. I hate fighting, and I always feel like it's my fault. I just wish I was pg then we wouldn't have to worry about getting pg!!! THanks again guys (I mean gals!!)
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My dh is the same way about not reading things! He has not listened to one word I have said about CTA or my cycle. And (partly) b/c of that we had an oopsie this cycle. I don't feel like I am preggo but still in the waiting game. I really worry about whats gonna happen if I am pregnant.

You could try explaining to dh that the more dry you are (and I know that hurts!) the more likely the condom is to break. I don't know it sounds pretty hard to reach him. It's really not fair though for you to hurt and suffer through it.
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Akaisha, I tell him that often. I think he would rather not dtd than read about my uterus and ovaries!! He would rather trust the condoms than take his chances of getting me pg after I've already ovulated!! Dummy!!

I wish we would come across a condom with a pin prick. Maybe then he would wish he would have read the book and listened to me. I always warn him when I am fertile, he always says "we'll just use a condom" then when we're done dtd he fills the condom up with water to check for holes (gross I know) he is so dumb!!
THanks for letting me vent!!
oh. my. gosh. that is one guy who seriously doesn't want a baby... sorry i can't help but laugh a little, i can't imagine someone doing that.

i wish i had better advice though, that is ridiculous. would it be bad to pin prick a condom yourself (when you're post-O obviously) so that he has no choice but to learn? that's something i would do... ya, i'm awful.
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I never thought of poking a hole in it after O. That's a good idea, but if he found out I did that, he might never trust me again, ever. And he seriously wouldn't ever have sex with me again if he knew I poked a hole in one. Maybe I can get the kids to do it! HeHeHe!!
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oh. my. gosh. that is one guy who seriously doesn't want a baby... sorry i can't help but laugh a little, i can't imagine someone doing that.

i wish i had better advice though, that is ridiculous. would it be bad to pin prick a condom yourself (when you're post-O obviously) so that he has no choice but to learn? that's something i would do... ya, i'm awful.
omg that is way too funny.

I’m so sorry marinemommy that your DH is unwilling to learn. That must be really frustrating.
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Am I the only one who always wonders if I'm pg this cycle?? I swear everytime I get another high temp my heart skips a beat, then I contemplate poas at like 9dpo. Gosh I really want to be pg. I am nuts aren't I???
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I got my 15th high temp today. I'm starting to get pretty worried... My luteal phase is usually around 12-14 days. I have been in so much pain. My cervix hurts, my uterus hurts, my ovaries hurt. I'm going to the dr. I will probably test tomorrow if my temp is still up. If I am pg, it was user failure and Murphy's Law, not method failure. I still can't quite believe I O'd so early. Thanks for the sympathy ladies. I'm not sure what's going on at all...


Quick question: I discovered a tiny lump on the left wall of my vagina. It's about the size of a BB. Any ideas? I also have a small lump on my cervix. Are there lymph glands in the vagina?
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Going without can be effective for a while, but if it goes on too long it's horrible for a marriage, esp. if your DH has no clue why you're making him go without (b/c he won't learn why).
Maybe but that would be on him, not her. He does know why she's not dtd with him. I'm not suggesting she use sex as a punishment or a power tool. I'm saying she shouldn't have to suffer through physical pain just so he can get his rocks off. Sorry, but that's just wrong. In no way is a woman obligated to have sex with her husband. Neither is a man obligated to have sex with his wife.

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BTW CD 13 here. EWCM. So far for all the cycles I've charted, I've been fertile from about day 10-19, give or take 1 or 2 at the later end. We'll see what this one does. I miss DH, but charting is so much easier without him.
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Am I the only one who always wonders if I'm pg this cycle?? I swear everytime I get another high temp my heart skips a beat, then I contemplate poas at like 9dpo. Gosh I really want to be pg. I am nuts aren't I???
LOL providing we've DTD, I wonder too. Except I wait it out instead of testing.

And re. my other post, in no way at all am I saying you should just deal with the pain and DTD anyway! What I was trying to say is that somehow, you have to find something that works for both of you, something that will better the situation, not make it worse b/c it's not just your sex life that will suffer if you just let this go. This is so hard... I wish I had something more positive and/or some concrete suggestions, but I don't.
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Maybe but that would be on him, not her. He does know why she's not dtd with him. I'm not suggesting she use sex as a punishment or a power tool. I'm saying she shouldn't have to suffer through physical pain just so he can get his rocks off. Sorry, but that's just wrong. In no way is a woman obligated to have sex with her husband. Neither is a man obligated to have sex with his wife.
I am a Christian, and according to the Bible, a husband and wife should not deny eachother except when they decide together to pray.
1 Corinthians 7:3-5.
3. The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband.
4. The wife's body does not belong to her alone but also to her husband. In the same way, the husband's body does not belong to him alone but also to his wife.
5. Do not deprive each other except by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control.

So, while I definetly don't follow this all the time, I do struggle with denying him as he has had a past addiction to porn. If I do deny him, I worry that he will be tempted again.
I do want to make a point but at the same time I struggle with this very verse. I wish he would read this verse too and take it to heart.
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I got my 15th high temp today. I'm starting to get pretty worried... My luteal phase is usually around 12-14 days. I have been in so much pain. My cervix hurts, my uterus hurts, my ovaries hurt. I'm going to the dr. I will probably test tomorrow if my temp is still up. If I am pg, it was user failure and Murphy's Law, not method failure. I still can't quite believe I O'd so early. Thanks for the sympathy ladies. I'm not sure what's going on at all...
Do you have a link to your chart?
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Have you ever been told you have HPV? It is very common 80% of women have it or have had it. I think it is a good idea to check with your provider. Those lumps coupled with the pain in your uterus, cervix and ovaries could point to something more serious. Are your temps feverish? Most likely it is nothing but it never hurts to get it checked out. Hope you feel better soon.

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I am a Christian, and according to the Bible, a husband and wife should not deny eachother except when they decide together to pray.
1 Corinthians 7:3-5.
3. The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband.
4. The wife's body does not belong to her alone but also to her husband. In the same way, the husband's body does not belong to him alone but also to his wife.
5. Do not deprive each other except by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control.

So, while I definetly don't follow this all the time, I do struggle with denying him as he has had a past addiction to porn. If I do deny him, I worry that he will be tempted again.
I do want to make a point but at the same time I struggle with this very verse. I wish he would read this verse too and take it to heart.
EXACT same thing here to everything you wrote.

And I officially have the crazies this cycle.
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EXACT same thing here to everything you wrote.

And I officially have the crazies this cycle.
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What are the crazies????
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Obsessing over pregnancy.
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Ashley, just wanted to say good luck!
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Okay then, I have the crazies too, ALL the time!!!
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DH and I had a fight this weekend about condoms. ... After I O, I am always pretty dry. DH doesn't trust that I won't get pregnant even after O, so he wants to use condoms all the time, ALL THE TIME! Honestly, it really hurts when I am post O. I don't like lube, it's irritating to me. Anyway, he got mad when I said I wanted to do it without condoms, even when I tried to ensure him that I could not possible get pregnant because I had O's 5 days prior. We both went to bed mad. Didn't dtd all weekend. Sorry for the novel.
Well, I hate condoms too, but there are about 100+ different lube formulations. I'm sure that you can find one that isn't irritating, honestly. I just think that trying to get somebody to do something sexual that they aren't 100% comfortable with (no matter what it is) is icky. Although he shouldn't get mad at you for saying what you want, either.

I tried to explain how the rules work to DH though and he just kind of glazed over and said "okay, okay, I trust you" - but I did tell him there was one rule I didn't trust (the dry day rule just seems too weird to me) but the post O rules should be easy... Does he realize there are TWO different signs of O that have to be confirmed (temp and CF)? And then you still wait 3-4 days to make sure? Wikipedia gives the method failure of post-ovulatory only FAM as 1%.

I think it has been drummed into them over and over - that unless they use a condom, there might be a baby. And all that stuff from high school about how a girl can get pregnant even during her period, even from a drop or pre-ejaculate, etc etc... It's pretty ingrained. Which is why we're on FAM + withdrawal or condoms. After his first wife "forgot to mention" that she stopped taking the pill, I don't think DH will ever fully trust any birth control that depends on the woman.

Hmm... I wonder if your husband would be okay with maybe putting the condom on closer to the end of dtd? Less latex friction anyway... That's often what happens with us...

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