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Mosly because I'm freaked out because that's basically what my Dh and I did last night and when I woke up this morning i ran to the calendar (after already knowing because of CM that it I was quite fertile) and yep - it's exactly 2 weeks after my period on top of that. In the heat of the moment I said outloud, "this is not a good time to not use a condom..." but then convinced ourselves that just for a second wouldn't hurt... - how many babies are born each year from that phrase alone?! And TMI but we even checked to see if he was "dry" and he wasn't so he just dried himself off! Oh man...

It WAS for only a minute but I woke up this morning with nothing short of a feeling of dread and fear! AHH! We were so stupid! I'm am absolutely NOT ready to be pregnant again...so please - if not just than to get me through these next two weeks with my sanity then tell me that there is hope!

FWIW if I did get pregnant it's be a happy time - just before I was ready is all which would totally have been MY fault!
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Well, that's the method we use and so far so good! We've gotten pregnant using condoms, but this works for us well (along with charting of course).
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Say hello to my newest pregnancy. P&P baby.

I've also had two other pregnancies that were P&P (one with my XH and one with DH) that ended in m/c.

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Congrats to the new baby! :-)

I am curious what the definition of everyone's take on it is? As in is the pull out method just pulling out RIGHT before the end or when you feel like there is any pre- ejac at all? I think that might help this naive girl over here
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Has worked flawlessly for us! 8 mos. and counting, I got my periods back at 6 weeks pp and so far no accidents.

I think it is pretty much fool proof as long as you do it right! i.e...you know when to pull out. All it takes is a little self control!

Hope this made you feel better!
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I have two or three kids using this method. We're still using it....: In the meantime dh is scheduled for a vasectomy. I say it's not very effective.
Came back to add:
It seems to work for long periods of time for us-and then out of the blue I'm pregnant. There are like three years between some of my kids using this method lol. So it's not that we don't know what we're doing. I just can't figure out what goes wrong.
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it's been working for us for 9 months now...including during some very fertile periods. we pull out RIGHT before the end if you get my drift.

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Well, there's an old riddle...

What do you call someone who uses the withdrawal method?
A parent.

There is sperm in pre-ejaculate. And, it only takes 1 lonely sperm to make it to the egg, and you're pregnant.

So, while you're less likely statistically to get pregnant using this method than using other methods, statistics are only interesting in a general sense -- if you get pregnant, you're pregnant, whatever the stats. are :-)

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We just celebrated our 11th wedding anniversary. In almost 11 years we used the pill for 2 years, and had two babies (not while on the pill). So for about 7 years relied pretty exclusively on the pull out method. I thought it must work pretty well. But then I got pg on my ds's first birthday - due in Aug. My midwife told me the pullout method is NOT birth control. Now she tells me.

But if it makes you feel any better, we only had one unplanned pg in 7 years worth of using that method!!!

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Yep, it worked for me and DH for over a year, and worked for me and XH for almost 3.

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We used this method for about a year before we conceived DS #2. BUT my cycles were all screwy for about the first 7 or 8 months of that because I had just come off the pill after 4 years.


I would NOT recommend it to anyone who really needs to avoid a pregnancy.

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Here is a little more about pull out method.... If it helps at all.... But really not all that effective if both partners are in tune with when to pull out and pre-cum etc..... Good luck t oyou whichever way you want it to turn out


Description

The withdrawal method has been practiced for centuries and is always convenient and available. All it involves is the man attempting to withdraw his penis before he ejaculates.
Effectiveness

Control over ejaculation is not very easy and the withdrawal method is known to be the least effective form of birth control. For the average couple, the withdrawal method is only 82% effective. This is due to the fact that some men find it difficult to control the point of ejaculation and accidentally release sperm into the vagina. Accidents like these are particularly pervasive in younger men with little sexual experience. Failures can also occur because the clear liquid discharged from the Cowper’s gland before ejaculation is rich with sperm cells. Since it is difficult to tell if this pre-ejaculate is leaking out of the penis, the withdrawal method is deceptively unsafe.
Directions

Before ejaculating, remove the penis from the vagina.
Drawbacks

The withdrawal method depends on one thing ... removal of the penis from the vagina before ejaculation. If a man neglects to do this then this method will undoubtedly fail. Secondly, there is no way for a man to restrict the flow of Cowper’s fluid from his penis, and thus no assurance the method will work. Furthermore, if a woman doubts the man's ability to withdraw his penis in time, she will not be relaxed and able to enjoy the sexual experience. This is not a highly recommended form of birth control and should not be practiced unless it is absolutely the only method available.

It offers no protection from STDs.

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Withdrawl has worked for us for four years.

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Me too - 4 years.

You are probably NOT pregnant.
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Thanks!! I do feel a bit better - even with all the pregnancies listed! Thanks for the info about the method as well - I was quite clueless as you could tell! I have always been paranoid about stuff like this and now - though reasurred, I'm always thinking to myself - should I pick up prenatal vitamins just in case and take better care of myself? haha. Oh my...
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Aren't there, um, scouts sent out before the troop invasion?

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There's a chance that you're pg... but we've had times when I knew I was fertile (we weren't TTA) and still, no pregnancy... so it's not guaranteed that you'll get pg, even if there were any sperm in the pre-ejaculate.

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"The withdrawal method depends on one thing ... removal of the penis from the vagina before ejaculation. If a man neglects to do this then this method will undoubtedly fail."
While I agree with the article quoted that it is the least reliable form of birth control, I find this wording funny... you aren't guaranteed to get pg if you have sperm in the vagina. It just sounds like they're saying you will undoubtedly get pg if he doesn't pull out in time.

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it is a funny way of wording if that was the case there would be no need for ttc... I just thought it had a little bit of good info...

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It too has worked great for us for 4 years and neither of us have fertility issues (not that anyone here is going to say that but it has been said to me before).
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My dh and I have no fertility issues what so ever. In fact both of my kids were conceived on the first month trying. However, the pullout method has worked perfectly for us for a total of 14 years in between both kids. He is very good and always pulls out on time though.

I will say that I wish I were in that small percentage where it fails though as I want another baby so bad it almost kills me!! No luck for me though. I think a lot of things play a roll. I have read that there can be sperm in the pre-ejaculate, but that most of the time they are not healthy sperm unless there has been another recent ejaculation prior to that session.

My guess is that if he pulled out on time and he hadn't recently ejaculated you should be fine. Good Luck!!
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I will say that I wish I were in that small percentage where it fails though as I want another baby so bad it almost kills me!! No luck for me though.

I can relate to that! I wish we had an oops one of these times! (DH doesn't want anymore.) The withdrawal method works very well for us, unfortunately!

I have read elsewhere that the pre-ejaculate contains sperm if prior intercourse took place within 12 hours??
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I have read elsewhere that the pre-ejaculate contains sperm if prior intercourse took place within 12 hours??
Prior intercourse, or prior ejaculation?

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what she means is if he had ejaculation without peeing or anything before the pullout was used. Sperm can still be in the ureatha if prior ejaculation occured soon before.

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It's worked for us for 11 yrs.! Both kids were tried for. This one was an surprise, but only b/c he didn't pull-out in time, and we knew it when it happened. (We had a little too much to drink at our kiddie Halloween party! ) I also wished many times that I'd get pg using the method, but I never did!

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what she means is if he had ejaculation without peeing or anything before the pullout was used. Sperm can still be in the ureatha if prior ejaculation occured soon before.
Thanks for the clarification

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We were told in nursing school that this method of birth control is one of the best kept secrets, because it is actually an effective method. (Keeping in mind that no method is 100%) The problem with listing it as such is that the couple and expecially the man must know their bodies very well, making it not a good choice for teens and non monogamous couples. The pregnancies that result from this method are almost always because of not withdrawling or being too late.
That said, it still makes me nervous to rely on this method when I know I'm ovulating.
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If anyone is attempting to consider the "pull-out" method of birth control based on how successful others have been, I find that ludicrous (no disrespect intended). Success of the pull-out method is perhaps similar to the success of trying to conceive. Another words, some couples conceive easily WHEN TRYING, and some have trouble. If someone says, "we've been pulling out for years with success", this has no bearing whatsoever on how another should go about their decisions for effective birth control. IF YOU DO NOT WISH TO GET PREGNANT, then look for something more statistically effective.. A method that provides more of the same odds as everyone else out there. The pullout method isn't the right one. This is my opinion. Good luck to all!!
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This is the method that dh and I have used for the 8 out of 10 years of being together. The first 2 years I was on bc and I gained 15lbs and my periods were awful so I quit. I am allergic to latex so condoms are out so we are old-timers when it comes to the pull out method. : We did have one oops pregnancy that resulted in a m/c shortly after we got married.

We know we are fertile b/c when we decided to start a family, we got pregnant with twins on the 1st try :

And for the person that asked about "when", he pulls out right before he feels that he is going to, well you know and finishes on a towel...WAY TOO TMI, huh??

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Wow, um, I am trying not be judgmental here, but...if you really don't want to be pregnant, why aren't you using a form of birth control that's known to be actually effective? I guess this doesn't make a lot of sense to me--I mean, there are plenty of options, right? Cervical cap--you can leave it in for 3 days, doesn't affect spontenaity that much, for instance, and no drugs involved.

Sorry. I hope you are not pregnant if you don't want to be. But hey, use some effective birth control next time, OK? Then you won't have to worry.
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My 14 year old is a P&P baby.



You most likely are not pg, but it CAN happen. So just make sure you test in two weeks!

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To use the P&P method you MUST be ready for the consequences!

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