This is long, please bear with me!!
First off, let me say my girlfriend was pregnant with twins. She was referred through her general practicioner to a Dr. Jones here in Las Vegas. When he came in the room she was immediately uncomfortable by him, he never made eye contact, and he mumbled so horribly neither her nor her husband really had any idea what he was saying... She was extremely sick, and he ordered some heavy thyroid testing to determine why she was so ill. She casually mentioned "I thought that was normal with twins".. after talking to her for over 20 minutes he FINALLY picked up the chart and said "oh. twins? yeah. thats what it is."
Later on in the meeting she said she was having severe constipation. He told her she would have to have surgery in which he would "go all the way up to his elbow in her intestines and pull out the poop". (I am not kidding.) Instead of perscribing any kind of laxative or to even drink more water!
The next visit he did a pap, and made her incredibly uncomfortable. Thankfully her husband was there to lend some sort of barrier between her and this "doctor". After leaving the dr's office she didn't feel as sick anymore. She had lost one of her twins. Something in her gut told her he was an incredibly bad person and she went to a new dr. But not before telling one of her girlfriends to beware if she was ever pregnant, and not go to that dr!
Well, come to find out, the girl is now 7 weeks pregnant, and went to THE VERY DOCTOR SHE WAS TOLD NOT TO SEE.
Here's HER story.
She went in for her pap, and to meet her new OB. It was the same Dr. Jones that Dayna had such a bad experience with. She said he was "very nice and gave me lots of samples" (like all OB doctors on your first visit). And that he , during a pelvic (a full on pelvic exam??) stuck his hands into her and MOVED THE BABY AROUND SO SHE COULD FEEL WHERE IT WAS INSIDE OF HER.
HE MOVED THE 7 WEEK OLD EMBRYO AROUND WITH HIS HANDS!? Is this normal practice?? I was under the impression touching or manipulating the baby at that early of a stage could be FATAL! And why would he need to stick his entire arm inside her to feel something THAT small!??! We were DUMBFOUNDED! Now, I could be wrong in thinking this is completely inapprorpriate and report worthy.. someone please help me!
Also, at Motherhood, shopping for some maternity clothes my girlfriend Dayna met another mother who was talking about this Dr. Jones character, and told a story of how one mother went in complaining of sickness and stomach cramps, and he told her (without doing even a PEE test to confirm a pregnancy) she needed a D&C because SHE HAD A TUMOR. 9 months later, she gave birth to a healthy baby girl, but he DID perform the D&C!!!!! HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE!!!!!
Does anyone know of ANYTHING like this happening to you or your friends?? I cannot wrap my head around this doctor having a medical license.
Tallulah Dare 8-01, Marcos Gael 12-04, Cormac Mateo 9-09, Leonidas Ronan 11-11
Momma to DD (12/04) and DS (11/09) .
I survived 16 mos! Ask me about breastfeeding a baby with posterior tongue tie, high palate, and weak oral motor skills- whew!
As for the D&C and subsequent baby. Well, it's on the fringe of possibility, but I suppose it could be true.
I'd say the doctor sounds creepy, but the medical details of these stories also don't add up. It's not uncommon for patients to be extremely fuzzy on technical details.
If not full blown.
I have never had this happen at ANY drs visit and my next question is, isn't that the point of the dating ultrasound? Would the location of the wand not be enough indication of where the baby was sitting??? He didn't need to feel anything. Am I right?
Mama to DS (5) and DD (2)
I do think this guy sounds pretty whacked out and people should complain to the licensing board if they have a bad experience with him.
With the first mother's experience of losing a twin, mother's intuition can be a great indicator. But with the other stories, something doesn't exactly add up. With both DDs, I have had pelvic exams at the first OB visit, or when transferring to a new OB. Never once did any of them feel the need to violate me as your friend was.
In regards to the D&C, the lady could have become pregnant immediately afterwards with a new baby or even perhaps carried her baby through somehow. Anything is possible I suppose.
Even if you have not had any negative experiences with this doctor, I would think you could report him as you have heard numerous accounts of experiences with him. Overall it seems as that would be in the local public's best interest.
Charlize, married to DH 4/12/04. Mom to DD1 (4/2005) , DD2 (3/2007) , and DD3 (10/2009) , and DD4 (6/2011) .
I wouldn't take any action on your part. You've never seen the doctor or had any direct contact with him. If your friends are as concerned as you, they can contact the licensing board, but it doesn't sound (as convoluted as the stories seem) like he committed malpractice or anything they would investigate him over.
As a former health care professional, I'd chalk up what was going on here to simple miscommunication and misunderstandings on the part of the patients. The guy may be a creep, but unless he's lost his mind, you've probably heard a less than accurate version of what really happened.
Mama to two sweet boys, a 7yo and a toddler .
The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift. - Albert Einstein
Do you know what it does to someone's career to be investigated for a charge as serious as sexually abusing patients? And for this all to come from HEARSAY? It's time for a reality check.
There are lots of other ways to tell if a woman is still pregnant, though. I'm a bit suspicious of a practitioner who would use this method because it is so invasive.