Yeast infections during pregnancy - Mothering Forums

Forum Jump: 
 
Thread Tools
Old 01-21-2004, 01:25 PM - Thread Starter
 
delphine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 911
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Hi, all, I am currently 26 weeks pregnant with my second child and I am fighting off the third yeast infection since October. I am eating yogurt every day, but that doesn't seem to be helping. Does anyone know of any other remedies that are safe during pregnancy?

Also, I have a small bumpy rash on my inner thigh that I think is related to the yeast infection. Is it possible to have a yeast rash on your leg? It looks just like the diaper rash that my ds had when he was on antibiotics and got a yeasty rash.

Thanks for any info.
delphine is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 01-21-2004, 02:22 PM
 
anothermama's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: somewhere between here and there
Posts: 2,736
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Yes and yes....both normal.

I NEVER get yeast infections and have gotten two in this pregnancy.

I actually used plain yogurt as a remedy.....I read it on a great alternative medicine website that a ton of my girlfriends rave about.

The website says to get a latex glove and fill the fingers with yogurt and use them as inserts. I was too lazy and just inserted yogurt at a time when I was going to lay down (nap time or bed time). If you don't freez it, you WILL be a bit messy, so use a pad also.

But I've NEVER had anything work so well or so soon on a yeast infection in my life. I will swear my this method till I die.

The website also mentions a clove of garlic. Thread a good solid cotton thread through it and stick it on up there. My friend who told me about the website swears by this remedy.

I'll dig around today and try to find the link.....

ETA: Yeah, and I got that yeasty bits on my inner thigh as well in this pregnancy, just like my daughter got as a baby. I just would put a little yogurt right on it at bedtime and it cleared up in a day or so.
anothermama is offline  
Old 01-21-2004, 02:23 PM
 
shannon0218's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 11,573
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Hi there, I posted a similar question earlier and I got the best response that helped so much, buy plain organic yogurt, freeze it in the fingers of a latex glove, then use them as suppositories, wow, what a relief, and the yeast infection stopped bothering me after only 2 days, mine had also spread a little to my inner thigh, for that part I just rubbed a little bit of unfrozen yogurt into the skin. there is a negative side effect though--dh will never again eat frozen yogurt:LOL
shannon0218 is offline  
Old 01-21-2004, 02:25 PM
 
shannon0218's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 11,573
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
oops we posted at the same time!!
shannon0218 is offline  
Old 01-21-2004, 02:44 PM
cjr
 
cjr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 3,255
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I'm sorry but I just don't agree with using any kind of home remedy to treat a yeast infection, bladder infection or any other type of infection during pg. But I'm not someone who has a problem with using medication properly when required. I was told to use the 7 day over the counter treatment. The reason for the 7 day is that it's a smaller dose of medication administered over a longer period of time. There's nothing wrong with using actual medication if it's known to be safe for baby.
cjr is offline  
Old 01-21-2004, 03:00 PM
 
shannon0218's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 11,573
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I agree that there is nothing wrong with using regular medication during pregnancy as long as it is deemed safe for baby, however, I have heard the yogurt remedy from 3 different regular doc's (the frozen angle was the only new thing) It's important to realize that many of our current "drugs" have been derived from natural remedies, as a matter of fact at least here in Canada you can by natural yogurt culture in pill form made by a "drug company" and marketed by 3 separate drug companies here in Canada. Difference being that with 2 of the "formulas" they do not require refridgeration--that said I need to wonder what has been done to the "natural" culture to enable it to be stable just in a bottle on a shelf. Likely the same type of thing done to many foods. I believe that common sense is paramount, I am not a person who shuns the medical community, I have rhuematoid arthritis and although I am worried about it, do take steroids now and will continue through the pregnancy unless my disease goes into a complete remission. I spoke with the motherrisk organization out of the Hospital for Sick Children in Toronto and they even recomended trying yogurt first as mulitple yeast infections in pregnancy are common and sometimes the OTC treatments stop working.
I don't mean to be harsh but I hardly think it is required to poo poo another remedy simply to recomend yours.
shannon0218 is offline  
Old 01-21-2004, 04:06 PM - Thread Starter
 
delphine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 911
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thank you to everyone for the replies! I have actually used yogurt (my midwife and OB recommended it as well) but I keep having recurring infections, and I was hoping there was some way to keep it from coming back. Maybe I am not using the yogurt for enough days to clear it up? Has anyone had luck with acidophillus (sp?) capsules?

I am also glad to hear that it isn't unusual for the infection to spread to the thigh. I had never had a yeast infection before this pregnancy, and I am relieved to hear that there is nothing unusual going on.
delphine is offline  
Old 01-21-2004, 04:36 PM
 
Artisan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 5,329
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
I have used acidolphilus in the past -- you can actually make a paste and apply it as well. I'm also having good luck with a homeopathic remedy called AZO. It's sold in major stores like Target. You can take it several times a day while you have an active infection (and are treating the infection in some way), and then you take a daily maintenance dose. I also found that completely cutting out refined sugar while I was trying to clear up an infection helps -- yeast loves sugar.

Feel better soon!
Artisan is offline  
Old 01-21-2004, 04:55 PM
cjr
 
cjr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 3,255
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Shannon, sometimes it's really hard to interpret the tone in a post. In no way did I mean to "poo poo" on the idea of yogurt. I was mainly just expressing my own opinion and my own preference. I can see how my post could have been interpreted as a negative response to a yogurt treatment, but really it was not intened to.

I think that my main concern with homeopathic remedies is that they are a hit or miss kind of thing. What works on one person may not work on another. Meanwhile the problem could be getting worse which can lead to a more serious infection. I would prefer not to take that chance while pg. I am, however, very open to natural solutions when I am not pg. I swear the only thing that works for a bladder infection, with me, is lots of cranberry juice. The antibiotics give me a yeast infection and I hate taking them, but when I am pg I take the antibiotic because I'm afraid the bladder infection will not go away and I would rather not deal with extra complications while pg. Yeast infections are horible and so uncomfortable and I prefer to just get rid of them with something I know will work with me.

Please don't think I was putting down someone elses suggestions, I did not mean it to come across that way.
cjr is offline  
Old 01-21-2004, 04:55 PM
 
KarmaChameleon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: I come and go
Posts: 1,231
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Hi --

I have taken on the role on these boards as flagrant promoter of Candex -- it's an enzyme that is touted as a "yeast management system."

It helped me beat thrush when nothing else worked (and I mean I tried everything).

Just don't know if it's safe for pregnancy -- but if it is, GET SOME!!!!
KarmaChameleon is offline  
Old 01-21-2004, 05:05 PM
 
anothermama's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: somewhere between here and there
Posts: 2,736
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally posted by cjr
I'm sorry but I just don't agree with using any kind of home remedy to treat a yeast infection, bladder infection or any other type of infection during pg. But I'm not someone who has a problem with using medication properly when required. I was told to use the 7 day over the counter treatment. The reason for the 7 day is that it's a smaller dose of medication administered over a longer period of time. There's nothing wrong with using actual medication if it's known to be safe for baby.
well, there is nothing wrong with it...except yeasties in pregnancies tend to be stronger than normal and why build up that resistance right away by throwing drugs at it???

I actually went to a OTC 7 day treatment with the first yeast infection I got while pregnant and it did diddly squat. The yogurt works like a charm, works fast, and you know what? It doesn't hurt the baby either!
anothermama is offline  
Old 01-21-2004, 05:07 PM
 
anothermama's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: somewhere between here and there
Posts: 2,736
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally posted by delphine
Thank you to everyone for the replies! I have actually used yogurt (my midwife and OB recommended it as well) but I keep having recurring infections, and I was hoping there was some way to keep it from coming back. Maybe I am not using the yogurt for enough days to clear it up? Has anyone had luck with acidophillus (sp?) capsules?

I am also glad to hear that it isn't unusual for the infection to spread to the thigh. I had never had a yeast infection before this pregnancy, and I am relieved to hear that there is nothing unusual going on.
You know, I know many women who just deal with it. My midwives actually warned me that I could just keep having recurrent ones and sometimes that just happens to women in pregnancy. I think that past the yogurt, I'd really say be careful of your intake of sugars and just be as careful as you can.
anothermama is offline  
Old 01-21-2004, 05:33 PM
 
mama kate's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: FINALLY "home" in San Antonio
Posts: 1,119
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Just wanted to add a ditto on the yogurt that I had one at @8 weeks pg & my OB reccomended the yogurt & I tried it & it was all cleared up in 3 days!

Kate, BioMama to Emma Lu, Elliana - Almost Mama to Martin, & Foster Mama to Baby T
mama kate is offline  
Old 01-21-2004, 06:44 PM
 
mommycoach's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Austin TX
Posts: 18
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
The Yeast Connection by William Crook, M.D.

He suggests trying an elimination diet. He has a cookbook out as well. Being pregnant may require some real care regarding dietary issues, but many of the culprits are sugar and wheat. Acidopholis is a great preventative measure as well. Hope this helps!

Warmly,
Lisa
mommycoach is offline  
Old 01-21-2004, 06:58 PM
 
Shenjall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Canada!
Posts: 3,764
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Keep on with the yogurt - but be ssure to read the label. Not all yogurts have the active bacteria that is needed to treat yeast. Astro brand is a good one. They have a variety of kinds (low fat, kosher, etc). And, most importantly, watch your sugar intake! I have suffered from yeast infections monthly for as long as I can remember. I bugged my dr, he checked me for diabetes and such (nothing) and then said to keep using over the counter stuff. It wasnt until my pregnancy with my 3rd (with a midwife - a first) that I changed my diet. I cut out alot of sugar - and then no more infections. I havent had one in almost 2 years!
Good luck!
Shenjall is offline  
Old 01-24-2004, 06:10 PM
 
BohoMama's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Czech Republic
Posts: 439
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
cjr writes:
"I think that my main concern with homeopathic remedies is that they are a hit or miss kind of thing. What works on one person may not work on another. Meanwhile the problem could be getting worse which can lead to a more serious infection."

My 2c worth is that doctor-prescribed medications are also hit-or-miss and may not work the same way on different patients. I had chronic yeast throughout my pregnancy and none of the half-dozen or so prescriptions I was given were able to control it. The infection would come back as soon as I stopped using the medicine.

My doctor thought that yogurt (eaten, not applied directly, might actually be harmful because of the lactose (sugar) content.

Is this credible?
BohoMama is offline  
Old 01-24-2004, 06:58 PM
 
Plaid Leopard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: UK
Posts: 2,578
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
NAK

I had recurring yeast infections during my last pregnancy, and the ONLY thing that worked for me was garlic. granted, I didn't try any over-the-counter stuff, but did try acidophilus capsules orally and vaginally, acidophilus suppositories and yogurt. The yogurt temporarily relieved the itching but didn't make the yeast go away.

I just inserted a peeled clove of garlic in my vagina before going to bed, and it would fall out in the morning when I sat on the toilet. It was instant relief. I had to do this for 3 nights or so - otherwise the yeast came back if I only did it once.

The only side affect was a garlic taste in my mouth in the morning. Wierd, huh?
Plaid Leopard is offline  
Old 01-24-2004, 08:48 PM
Banned
 
Mamid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Fraser Valley
Posts: 1,790
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I was going to go get a probiotic compound and see if that worked since I seem to have a systemic yeast infection.

I'll try upping my garlic intake and try the garlic supository. That should be spicy.
Mamid is offline  
Old 01-25-2004, 03:21 AM
 
jordmoder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: the wild west
Posts: 451
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Something that has worked for me repeatedly in pregnancy and not (although I seem to get the only bad ones when I'm pregnant) is Boric Acid. You make a capsule, insert it at bedtime, and let it dissolve. It has never been more than three days for the most horrific yeast to be absolutely gone. How it works is by making the vagina more acidic, and yeast hates acid. I have never found any information to suggest it is not safe in pregnancy. You can get Boric Acid (don't be put off by the huge skull and crossbones on the cover, at least mine has it) at a pharmacy. Good for cockroaches, too!
jordmoder is offline  
Old 01-25-2004, 04:42 PM
 
gratefulmom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: CT
Posts: 243
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I am 26 weeks now and have been researching remedies. I have read and heard about the clove of garlic so I did that last night. I actually rolled it up in gauze and inserted it. According to an article on midwifery today it may only take one night.
Also cutting out refined sugar. If you have recurrent problems even dairy could be a culprit. Some herbalists say not to use yogurt if you are having lots of infections because of the dairy/sugar.
Tea Tree oil is a natural antiseptic that will clean the area and help rid of bacteria.
One concern of mine was testing positiove for strep B. A friend had been told ny her ND that OTC remedies such as Monistat may increase the count if you are strep positive. The natural remedies for yeast will also help fight off any other bacteria such as GBS.
I think that is why I prefer the natural remedies, you are actually boosting the body's immune system vs just treating the reaction. Yeast can be due to an off balance ph and immune system. Grape seed extract and probiotics will help as well. Increasing vit C was anothe rrecommendation.
Preganancy is a "wet" condition in chinese medicine so anything to balance the ph will help to fight off yeast growth.
gratefulmom is offline  
Old 01-25-2004, 05:51 PM
 
lorijds's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 2,845
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Cjr has a good point about trying to self treat withough involving a practitioner in the process. It is important to know what you are treating. This is true whether you are treating with over the counter, homeopathic, or herbal supplements.

If your yeast infection is recurrent, make sure your doc/mw is taking a swab and looking at it under the microscope. Yeast is very distinct.

It is true that the ph changes of the pregnant vagina provides a more positive growth medium for yeast overgrowth. Acidophilus/probiotics, either insterted vaginally, taken orally, or both, have been proven very effective in our practice. However, they seem to work better preemptively or right at the first sign of yeasty beasties. Now, many people do not buy this; there have been a couple of studies and they are inconclusive, whether the acidophilus helped or not. BUT, oral acidophilus has been definitively shown to help prevent overgrowth of yeast in AIDs patients; so to me, that shows that oral intake does indeed affect systemic health.

Your doc has a point; if there is alot of sugar in the yogurt, that might be counter productive. Choose a plain, no sugar yogurt with a high culture count...Nancy's is always good, for one recommendation.

The garlic thing has personally worked for me. I recommend a triple whammy to my friends: mix a couple of drops of tea tree oil with 1/4 cup or so of olive oil. Soak a piece of cotton gauze or cloth in the mixture. Wrap a peeled clove of garlic in the gauze, and insert before bed. If you are having internal irritation, rub the olive and tea tree oil mixture on your vulva. Do for three nights; usually this helps me. The olive oil is particularly soothing, I find. Better than yogurt, and not so funky feeling.

A couple of months ago, however, I got a RAGING yeast infection that nothing I tried helped. I have never been so uncomfortable; I was taking 800 mg of Ibuprofen every 8 hours to deal with the discomfort. Luckily I work at a birth center....I hopped up on the table and had the mw take a swab, because it was beginning to feel like something else to me. Nope, just a hell of alot of yeast, having a party. I did a three day over the counter treatment that included a vulvular cream, and that cleared it right up. I then did the garlic/tea tree/olive oil thing for three more nights. No problems since.

If you go over the counter, I would do the three day, as opposed to the one day or the seven day. The three day has a stronger dose than the 7 day (but less than the 1 day). The one day seems to often not really take care of it, but it is too high of a dose to do several days in a row. Many of our clients who use the over the counter find that the three day is just right.

BUT, whatever you do, your doc/mw needs to know that you are treating yourself for yeast, and that you are struggling with it.

Premature rupture of membranes has been associated with recurrent vaginal infections (usually BV). Yeast is indicative of an imbalance, which also puts you are greater risk for other vaginal infections, including BV. You don't want your bag of waters to be compromised by either the recurrent infection and inflammation or the recurrent treatment.

So good luck, whatever you decide to do! Yeast is NO FUN, and if it isn't responding to treatment, you need to ascertain that it isn't something else. I hope you get some relief soon!!
lorijds is offline  
 
User Tag List

Thread Tools


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off