Both my birthing instructor, midwife, and yoga instructor recommend using a down ward dog yoga position to help facilitate a baby to turn. Basically get on all 4's (hands and knees) and then stick you butt up in the air and straighten your arms. basically you want to look like a triangle. you can keep your arms bent too. You may also want to try a modified shoulder stand too. Just get on your back and lift your legs up in the air. Try not to worry too much. Your baby still has time to turn. I know folks whose babies decided to turn a couple of days before delivery. Actually, my sisters turned the night she went into to labor. ALso, try sitting on a birthing ball. It promotes good posture and makes you lean somewhat forward-another good turning position. Hope that helps.
I know this can sound like odd advice, but like with the suggestions above you are trying to make your baby more comfortable in a different position. Hands and knees positions are more about turning a "sunny side up" baby back over, but they are apparently helpful generally in moving babies.
I just wanted to give you more things to try.
You can also do a "downward puppy" when the downward dog gets too tiring - this is the same as the downward dog, but you can kneel.
Good luck mama!
also, I have heard something about moxibustion, but I'm not sure if it is to turn a breech or to induce labor.
then, people say to play music through earphones that had been placed right by your pubic bone and also flash a light right in that area as well - both will sort of attract the baby.
I am not speaking from experience here, but I've heard of people using those things.
My doctor wasn't keen on me having a breech vaginal birth, and since this was my first baby I was worried about it. I asked my midwife and she didn't offer me much encouragement either. They way I saw it at the time, he either had to turn or I was stuck with a c-section. It was a difficult time for me. I read a lot about it and discovered that the external version had to be done by 36-37 wks at the latest, or the baby would probably be to big to turn. Well, that's what the medical literature said. I've heard so many accounts of babies turning at the last minute, in fact my sister's previously head-down baby turned breech the day before delivery. I guess I didn't want to take the risk that he wouldn't turn on his own, so I went ahead with the external version (against my doctor's wishes...he said it was too interventionist and he didn't like doing them). I had to spend the day in the hospital.....but it worked. End of story. It was not at all painful, contrary to what many people say, but I have to say that I didn't feel great about forcing my little one around. I mean, I felt like I was invading his space.
Looking back I'm glad I did it, because I don't think I would have had the courage or the neccessary support to have a vaginal breech delivery.
If you want to know more about the version, just ask. But I hope that some of the other methods will work for you.
What everybody said so far is great advice. Try not to stress, visualize, and get on your hands and knees everyday. I remember reading a funny story here a few months ago when my sister's baby was breech about a woman who's baby turned at, I think, 40 weeks or maybe even later. She was sitting Indian style giving her husband a blow job when she could feel her baby beginning to move towards the proper position. She got up and manuevered the baby with her hands until her baby was fully head down. Not that I'm suggesting you do this, I just thought it was pretty funny.
Bonnie was breech at 37 weeks and I was very concerned about it because we really wanted a home birth, but more than that I was willing to do damn near anything in the world to avoid a section. There was no one in my area that would deliver a breech vaginally for a first time mom.
Things I tried include:
a session with a hypnotist to help me talk the baby into turning.
same hypnotist, guided visualisation
Daddy talking to, singing and waving flashlights at the bottom of my uterus
my chiro wouldn't do the Webster. He wasn't familiar with it and didn't feel comfortable manipulating me to that degree.
I never heard of any dietary assistance.. I would like to hear more about that OceanMomma.
edited because I forgot about using my husbands electric razor at the top of my uterus to annoy the baby into turning.
I finally ended up with a version. Unlike chocomoco it hurt like hell. I hadn't met the doc who did it until he came in that morning to scare the crap out of me with arecitation of the possible complications of a version. So much for relaxing during the procedure! For me, it was worth it. It saved me a trip to Tennessee to see Ina May which was next on my list.
I not sure I would do a version again if I had to choose again. When Bonnie was born she had the shortest umbilical my midwife had seen in 30-some years. I could very easily have abrubted. Sometimes the baby has a very good reason for not turning.
Suebee, is there anyone in your area who would catch your baby if s/he stays breech? Can you go to Tennessee if the the baby stays put? Consider all your options and good luck!
There is a similar thread in homebirth you might want to read.
My doctor won't perform a version UNTIL 37 weeks at the earliest, as it can send you into labor, and she doesn't like things to be any riskier than it has to be.
I experienced absolutely no pain, and Fiona was turned within 3 minutes. Her heartrate never even wavered (but she's a pretty laid back kid). In retrospect I'm glad we did it, it eased my mind (although I had to have an unexpected cesarean anyway due to other reasons).
I felt comfortable with the version (despite all the horrible scare stories I read about them online) because my doctor is/was extremely experienced in both the version technique AND the delievery of breech babies vaginally--so I knew she would not push me towards an elective cesarean.
Weigh all your options before you make a decision, and you might as well try some of the 'home remedy' type of things, as they don't hurt and are free.
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elevate your hips off the ground with your head and back laying flat - then put frozen peas or what ever other frozen veggies that are plyable on the baby's head. The baby will move away from the peas and head for the correct position. You will need to do it every day until the baby locks him/herself into position.
Also know that accupunture works. Actually can see the baby move!
I just got back from an OB visit today. I am due on May 22. The ultrasound revealed that during the last month my son has turned to a feet first position. The doctor said today that if he hasn't turned back head down by May 17 he will schedule me at the hospital & give me an epidural & try to turn him. He stated that if they are sucessful at turning him that I would at that point be induced, if not I would be taken in for a c-section. Is there anything I can do to avoid this??? He stated that the epidural was necessary because turning the baby is quite painful. Is this true? Also if they can turn him why would it be necessary to induce?
My first child was delivered via c-section. My daughter was delivered vaginally with no pain meds but I was induced with her due to not dialating. I cannot stand the thought of having another c-section. It was one of the main reasons I was unsucessful at breastfeeding my son. I also would like to just experience a natural labor/birth process. I have done nothing today but cry over this, my heart is breaking please help!
Hopefully one of our other Mama's can help.
Thinking of you,
get a tape and listen listen listen. i don't know where you're located, but i know you can probably find tapes at golden bridge yoga in los angeles.
323 936 4172. maybe you can call them or try their website, or even talk to one of the prenatal yoga teachers about this. hope this helps.
best of luck!!!
I'm sorry this is happening to you. I would ask your OB what is the benefit with doing a version before your due date. Maybe you had a few more weeks to wait then the baby would turn on its own.
Keep in touch and good luck!
i would request a heprin lock instead of a routine iv and dont let them induce you even if the baby doesnt turn . let your body go into labor naturally to insure a full term bambino.
i just reread your post and it made me kind of mad that your doctor has so little faith in the body. you can have more than on version done if your baby decides to turn back. and definately do a search on google about versions it does pose some risks. i speak of it lightly only because i am not faced with the decision. i think you should wait to have the baby (even after the version)until baby is ready to enter the world.
so go to the chiropractor , go swimming, do a head stand, lay with a couple of pillows under the small of your back so your head is down and you are at a 45 degree angle. this is supposed to disengage the baby from the pelvis so he has room to turn.. do a search on turning breech babies i bet you will find some promising ideas.
i had a c-sec with my first because he was breech so i read a lot about it because i was at a higher risk for a breech with #2. good luck sweetie and if you need someone to talk to you can PM me remember to stay as relaxed as you can. and dont let that doctor boss you around he is working for you and its your baby and your body. if you are not due until the 22 then you have plenty of time. i went into labor naturally with ds #1 and he was breech and it was better for him and my body to go into labor on its own instead of being induced or scheduled c.
I ended up with a c-section. I called everyone who I could think of, even Ina May. She wouldn't take me because it was my first baby. I felt bad about it for a long time, but you know what? It's been 4 years and I don't feel bad about it anymore. Someone along the way told me, you got pregnant to have a baby, not a vaginal birth. There was just a teeny tiny bit of wisdom there.
I really really did not like doctors (and like them even less after my c-section.) IF I have another baby, I know that will have a home birth after c-section (HBAC).
Good luck to you and your baby!
Go to an acupuncturist and have them perform moxibustion on you... moxa is a pressed stick of the herb mugwort that is burned and held near the body to add warmth/energy to specific acu points and muscle areas... for breech babies it is held above the very last point on the Urinary Bladded channel, which is at the tip of the outside of the little toe...
Sounds crazy, but it has great success rate!! It's completely safe, comfortable, and non-invasive!
heres' another thing i've heard of (never tried it myself, but it is harmless, so why not give it a shot) - pace something really cold (like apack of frozen veggies ot ice) on top of your uterus. teh babe will try to get its head away from the cold and might turn head down this way.
I don't think WE here consider sections safer but the docs are convinced it is the only way to go... in part because they havn't learned their job and don't know how to catch a breech. I'm getting all wound up now so I should take a break.
I had a version by a midwife (two different times) and once by a medical doctor ONLY AFTER I tried many many of the suggestions here. Both the midwife and the doctor HURT alot. The second time the midwife tried it, it hurt way less because I was prepared for the pain - the doctor never said anything about pain just started pushing! The second time the midwife tried it I also had had one shot of tequila (the only drop of alcohol I had all through my pregnancy and 4 years of nursing). That time didn't hurt much, but luckily my husband was there because I was saying Try it Again Try it Again (I wanted so badly for the procedure to work) and the baby's heart beat was slowing down. My dh brought me to my senses and said NO MORE.
I would have tried the many other cool suggestions made here but after three versions my poor dd said I AM OUT OF HERE WHAT IS GOING ON and was born 3 and 1/2 weeks early.
I couldn't find any doctor in my area to deliver a breech baby vaginally. Somebody told me it was because I lived in a big metropolitan area where malpractice suits are sky-high. They said if I lived in a smaller town, that I may have gotten a doctor to do it.
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My doctor turned my son when I was 36 wks (the reason they don't wait till you due date is twofold...if you go into labor early, they have a breech babe & as the baby gets bigger it's harder to turn it w/o risking damage to the cord or plasenta. they also can't do it too early or the baby just flips back!). My doctor gave me a muscle relaxer and pain meds before doing the version. From what the nurses said afterwards I understand that this was unusual (my doc was awsome and I guess he does somethings differantly because he usually specializes in only high risk pregnancies; he's a perinatoligist) and that usually it just hurt like hell (again, according to the nurses). I don't understand why they would use an epidoral though, knowing that it has very common side effects. Also make sure that your doctor plans to use an ultrasound machine to see whats happening inside as he does the version (lowers the risk of catching the cord and causing plasenta damage...causing an emergancy c-section). If you are not induced after the version there is a risk of the baby turning back but so what at worst you will have a c-section (sounds like you doc plans that anyway if you don't have the version) and at best it stays head down and you get a full term baby! by the way I did carry my son to 38 weeks when he came on his own and was born head first in the easist labor I've had yet.
This is far from guarenteed, but the OB in question is Mr cautious and he asked me what I was trying to prove with my two natural and normal births. I told him my two mec delivery babies would not have benefitted from my having narcotics. so he's pretty mainstream in a lot of respects.
Just call him Dr. Peas
I've heard that a flashlight can help to turn a baby.
I think what you do is lie down relaxed and have someone guide the baby with the light. I have no idea if this works...
Your prob better off with the chiropractor.
Because I'm midwifery/home birth oriented I always think of midwifery today as a resource (a great magazine with a great website and discussion boards like this). I would think that you could get some support and advice there, even if you're having an OB birth. I think their web address is just www.midwiferytoday.com good luck!
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