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#31 of 52 Old 05-18-2010, 11:57 PM
 
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I haven't read all the responses, but as a nurse practitioner who has worked at Planned Parenthood in the recent past, I just wanted to agree that not every clinic offers prenatal care and also clarify the reason. Malpractice insurance is VERY EXPENSIVE for practices that handle prenatal care. It also involves having relationships with providers that attend deliveries. Most PP providers would LOVE to provide you with prenatal care, but it is just not practical, especially for smaller sites.

I really do not get the demonization of PP that I see on these boards again and again.
And yet some women who posted said that PP would not even give them a referral for prenatal care.. how much does a referral cost them?
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I haven't seen any studies done on ultrasound causing speech problems?
Same here! The only studies Ive seen are on cavitation causing heat buildup and that's not likely considering how short the u/s usually lasts and the fact that it is pretty much constantly being moved around.

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Planned Parenthood offers pre-natal care to women all over this country, especially low income women who have limited options.
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Not true...I called them and asked about pre-natal care and was told that they do not offer that.

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This does not make the general stement "not true" as has been pointed out different location offer more and less services. And even in some offices, the question comes up so infrequently that someone may not give out the correct info on the phone.
Actually imho, the comment "not true" referred to the statement that prenatal care is offered all over the country.. and clearly that can't be true if it depends on location. Location dependency does not equal "all over the country".. but then, it wasn't my comment, so that is just how I read it.
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And yet some women who posted said that PP would not even give them a referral for prenatal care.. how much does a referral cost them?
I have worked at PP in 2 different states and at both, we had referral lists for prenatal care. In fact, we had referral lists for almost anything you could think of (domestic violence, breast specialists, urologists, etc.). PP does not, as a policy, withhold referral information. Like I said before, I cannot rule out some bad seeds out there, but that is not representative of the organization as a whole.

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While I am sure that your situation was very scary and difficult, you have to admit that getting a blood BHCG done is a waste of resources in a situation like that, especially since it means nothing without repeating it and nothing can be done to change the outcome. As you said, you started bleeding the next day so it would have been absolutely reasonnable to just wait it out. Places like that normally have limited funding and I think it makes sense to limit non-necessary services. I am sure that if someone walked in asking for something unnecessary that was related to contraception or abortion, they would also refuse.
I went in sat morning and started bleeding Tuesday afternoon. I (or my insurance) certainly could have paid for an HCG test and did on Monday at a doctor's office. That test did tell me I was miscarrying (I knew exactly when I conceived and so I knew what range my level should have been - mine was well below). HCG test is a pretty basic test to check viability of pregnancies (and need for progesterone etc) and this clinic didn't offer it except to confirm date for termination.

I'm not making an indictment against planned parenthood - they are good at what they do - but, in my experience, they don't do planned pregnancies.
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Planned Parenthood offers pre-natal care to women all over this country, especially low income women who have limited options.
wow, i had no idea they offer pre-natal care. that is awesome (and makes sense). makes me wanna scrap my "unassisted" care and jump on their train because that's how much i support what they do.
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uh, i replied before reading pg 2. ellie'smom, glad to hear your pov/exp.
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I don't see why they wouldn't allow you to look at the ultrasound. I went to a free clinic similar to Planned Parenthood for my first ultrasound with this one and they all seemed really happy and excited that I was happy and excited....lol.

With that said, I would caution against an early ultrasound anywhere, especially a free based clinic. They get their equipment for free as a donation basis and it isn't very effective in dating the pregnancy. It's basically used strictly to validate a pregnancy and find a heartbeat because they don't have doplers (at least not where I went). They use it to rule out early miscarriage and to rule out possible ectopic pregnancy. The reason they do it so frequently is because some people that go there aren't sure if they plan to continue the pregnancy or not. The first step to making that decision is to determine that there is a pregnancy and a heartbeat. In my case it caused a lot of stress in the beginning for no reason. The machine wasn't strong enough to pick up the heartbeat so for 3 weeks I walked around expecting a miscarriage at any minute. It also meant that I had to go in for a second ultrasound which I hadn't planned on. Long story short, if you're looking for an ultrasound for some specific concern I'd consider getting a referral to a regular doctor. If not an early ultrasound isn't really necessary.

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...you have to admit that getting a blood BHCG done is a waste of resources in a situation like that
I don't see how it's a "waste of resources" when the woman was expected to and did pay for it.

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I don't see how it's a "waste of resources" when the woman was expected to and did pay for it.
Isn't the point of such clinics to offer low cost care to people who cannot afford to go throught "regular" clinics? I am sure that the fee they charge does not cover the full fee for the lab, the infrastruture, salaries of the people there, equipment and such. I maintain my position that seeking non-essential care from a charity that clearly is lacking in resources is wrong, or at least not very considerate.

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With all due respect, it is not my understanding that Planned Parenthood is lacking in resources...

"The Planned Parenthood Federation of America (PPFA) 2006-2007 annual report shows the number of abortions it committed was 305,310 in 2007. Total revenue amounted to over one billion dollars, with the organization's profit margin - "excess of revenue over expenses" - soaring from $55.7 million in 2005 to $112 million in 2006."

http://www.plannedparenthood.org/files/AR08_vFinal.pdf

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With all due respect, it is not my understanding that Planned Parenthood is lacking in resources...

"The Planned Parenthood Federation of America (PPFA) 2006-2007 annual report shows the number of abortions it committed was 305,310 in 2007. Total revenue amounted to over one billion dollars, with the organization's profit margin - "excess of revenue over expenses" - soaring from $55.7 million in 2005 to $112 million in 2006."

http://www.plannedparenthood.org/files/AR08_vFinal.pdf
Wow thanks for that!
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With all due respect, it is not my understanding that Planned Parenthood is lacking in resources...

"The Planned Parenthood Federation of America (PPFA) 2006-2007 annual report shows the number of abortions it committed was 305,310 in 2007. Total revenue amounted to over one billion dollars, with the organization's profit margin - "excess of revenue over expenses" - soaring from $55.7 million in 2005 to $112 million in 2006."

http://www.plannedparenthood.org/files/AR08_vFinal.pdf
The number you bolded is total revenue. That means NOTHING. The profit margin is what you should be concerned with. A company can have a total revenue of $10 billion yet have no profit. Total revenue only refers to all the money coming in, not any of the expenses.

As for their profits, in 2007, 112 million out of 1 billion amounts to about an 11% profit margin. Not much. And usually profits are used for upgrading equipment, etc in the future.

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I'm sad this thread has turned into a debate just because PP is in the title. I don't think the op was asking about PP revenue in her original post.

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its sad that pp is not funded here. just to get your foot in the door is $80 and if you need std screening its $40 per test. there is no discounts for low income
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Hey folks, let's not let this tread turn into some volatile thing, it has wandered down some off topic roads that are pretty harsh and not contructive to the OP. I certainly understand PP brings up a lot of feelings, as we can see, but we also have employees of PP here with us and the whole spectrum. Just thinking

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I'm sad this thread has turned into a debate just because PP is in the title. I don't think the op was asking about PP revenue in her original post.
I was JUST thinking the same thing!!
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Our local clinic has pretty limited services....does not offer abortion services or pre-natal services, but we do have a PP clinic within about 45 min from here that has more comprehensive services, which our local clinic works closely with. When I was 19 and had an unplanned pregnancy I went to the local PP, after lots of thinking, with no purpose but to get my options to terminate the pregnancy. They talked me through All options, gave me extensive resources on adoption, abortion, and all local/regional services to help should I decide to keep the pregnancy.

At the end of the day I chose not to terminate the pregnancy, but I would not have made that choice if I had not been given the resources and support at our local PP regarding ALL of my options, so I felt like there was help for my situation vs just being trapped.

Just my experience.
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Hi - I'm temporarily closing this thread because it has gone far off topic.

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I had my insurance canceled on me. Found out I was pregnant, and my OB GYN was way too expensive! And I make a decent amount. I need to be seen because as of now I am 11 weeks, with one previous early miscarriage. I called in hopes for a little help. The lady I spoke with was very understating, and knew I wanted to keep the baby without even asking and afford to help me with getting medicaid and whatever else I needed. I am in the process of getting medicaid already, thank god. :p Best of luck lady's!!

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planned parenthood is there to support a womans right to have a health repoductive life and full set of choices. the offer full prenatal care http://www.plannedparenthood.org/hea...-care-4255.htm if someone goes into a office and is told they make other women uncomfortable, they need to report that, it is not planned parenthood stance at all.


plan parenthood supports a woman's right to choose.... anything

This is not wholly accurate. The majority of their clinics DO NOT offer prenatal care. And they are phasing out prenatal care in the minority that do offer it. Just don't want people thinking their local PP offers prenatal care because more than likely, they do not.

Of course they offer ultrasounds, they are a standard part of ABO services, even by Pill, to check if a pregnancy is uterine & for dating.
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I haven't had a chance to read through the whole thread- just wanted to share my experience. I got an ultrasound at PP at 7 weeks because I was concerned about an ectopic pregnancy and my midwife doesn't have an u/s machine. The technician was wonderful- she asked me whether or not I wanted to see the screen and when I told her that it was a wanted pregnancy, she asked if I needed a referral to an obgyn. A very positive experience (and so much cheaper than the hospital!)

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