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Thanksfor the tips you all.

 I was a borderline diabetic and then I got pregnant and poof everything went out of control. I met with my diabetes counseler yesterday and I was shocked an how completly clue less she was.

I told her that I don't like to eat wheat becasue it makes me sick and she said "Its ok you can substitute with whole wheat bagels, crackers, tortillas." umm what? I just said I don't like to eat wheat. I just played along because clearly she wasn't listening to me. Then she went in to how I should eat splenda and equal! OMG this lady is nuts. that and telling me I could eat 40 grams of carbs a meal, which seems very high to me.

 

Before finding out i was preggo I was doing the Raw Vegan diet to help get me out of insulin resistance, but I couldn't find any reputable info on it during pregnancy so I stopped.

I getting desperate, I can controll my daytime number fine, but I can't get my fasting numbers under control despite snacks etc. They want to put me on insulin soon, I will do what I need to be healthy for baby, but there's go to be a better way.

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Goddess3, have you checked out the diabetes 101 website-- http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/index.php-- Lifeguard mentioned it before I think (or maybe me)? I think its super informative about how to eat when you are at risk for diabetes or borderline, etc. I have personally come to believe that more than being raw/vegan, eating in a way that minimizes high blood sugars (whatever that is for YOUR body) is what is most protective in the short and long run...

 

Gross on being told to eat splenda and nutrasweet... my diabetes in pregnancy educator said the same last time though to be fair she didn't really encourage it. And yeah, while whole grains are healthier than refined, for some reasons (like more nutrients and fiber etc) I haven't found that they are any easier on my blood sugar response. I am tired of people telling me to "switch" to whole grain, that was all I ever ate anyway. Last pregnancy a quarter cup of steel cut oats with no sweetener would give me a 1hr post-meal number close to 150, so yeah, not so healthy for all of us!

 

blah just had a highish post-lunch number. I think I ate too much watermelon... seems so watery and refreshing, but I guess I should have measured the amount. (other than that I ate cottage cheese, seitan-cabbage-cauliflower stir fry leftovers, and some peanut butter... so watermelon pretty much has to be the culprit...)


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I had a 168 after eating 3 slices of watermellon on the 4th, it was the watermellon! Thanks for the link I will look into it. I am going to make a meal plan and get to the grocery store tomorrow armed with a plan. I am going to try to stay about 80% Raw Vegan, except I will be eating eggs from my chicens. I know there are treated super well and I have been craving them like crazy! ;)

 

Oh what is everyones A1C? mine is 5.6

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goddess - I agree with emmaegbert that it's all about finding out what works for YOUR body. Ime with ds the "nutritionist" was useless, although kind. I listened & then figured things out on my own. This time, we'll see, I'm considering refusing to see their nutritionist as I'm already paying to see one on my own.

 

emmaegbert - I am SO happy for you that your care providers are so reasonable. That would make it all much less stressful. You've been so good about tracking your numbers already - I must admit I've been tracking haphazardly & not recording anything (although the monitor records it all).

 

I know that a LOT of people are not comfortable with using sugar substitutes during pregnancy but I must admit they are a bit of a lifesaver for me. I canNOT have anything sweet in my diet (even the watermelon you mention wouldn't work for me) & unfortunately that is what I most crave. I don't do a lot of it but I do drink diet pop - it does keep me sane.

 

I haven't had a1c during pregnancy. My last few before pregnancy were good but unfortunately it can be a little bit misleading. My understanding (please correct me if I'm wrong) gives you an "average" over the past 3 months so if you have a lot of big swings it could look ok when you're not really very well controlled.

 


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I can definitely eat ice cream and have lower numbers than watermelon, how is that right? I mean, I get why (the fat slows absorption, and ice cream is actually relatively low in sugar). But still. Seems wrong somehow.

 

I don't mean to be snooty about the fake sugars. I use stevia and xylitol (which are just "natural" artificial sweeteners...) and will have splenda sometimes if that is what there is. But since I can eat a modest amount of fruit, etc, that is where I get my sweetness. I do have sweet cravings but they go down a lot when I am stricter with my diet to where a couple of raspberries mixed into plain yogurt tastes pretty sweet.

 

I made some coconut flour "bread" today (3/4 c coconut flour, 1/2 c coconut oil, 6 eggs... its like a crazy dense, dryish pound cake thing). Its a bit weird but I like it okay, and I have got to have SOMETHING to eat as my mom will not stop baking bread. Like a huge loaf every day of crusty white bread. I cried a little the other day because of it (I felt like she was being mean to me on purpose. Well, also my DH asked me to go on a walk with him to get an ice cream cone. I was like, aren't you people supposed to love me? Why are you all trying to sabotage my health here?!) Oh, and I'm living with my parents for the summer, so its extra tortuous, its not like I can go home to my (bread-free) home to escape.

 

Goddess3... those eggs sound good. I eat SO many eggs 'cause I am a vegetarian and eating so low carb. There is not a lot left! As for insulin.. I haven't had to do it but I think if you are not able to get your fastings down using diet and exercise, it makes a lot of sense. I hope you can figure out a diet that gets your numbers into normal ranges, but if not thank goodness for the good medications and the ease of self-monitoring with the meters.

 

Today I read something today about A1C being misleading if you are anemic... which I am... ah well. I will do it anyway. I've actually never had one so I can't say what it is...

 

Lifeguard, my understanding is that A1C combined with intermittent monitoring can be basically a good screening for people at risk.


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I hope some people are still around in this thread!

 

I just got the call from my doctor's office yesterday telling me that the numbers on my GTT were high and I was being referred to a gestational diabetes clinic.

 

I'm 24 weeks right now and I took a 75g, 2 hr test. The nurse didn't give me my fasting number (although after reading through the GD threads here I wish she would have). My one hour was 195. And my two hour was 157. She said they were looking for 150 or below, so I'm borderline. And they expect I'll be able to control it through diet and exercise alone.

 

But I'm still going through that initial period of sobbing and barely being able to get myself to eat because everything I put in my mouth feels like a potential time bomb. Not to mention feeling betrayed by my body and like I'm already a failure as a mother.

 

I wish my doctor would have brought me into her office to talk about the results rather than just having one of her nurses call to be like, "Hey, you have GD. Call this number and make an appointment! Bye!" Sort of left me in the dark and terrified. Not to mention completely shocked. I have no risk factors other than being over 25--I've got no family history of diabetes, had a pre-pregnancy BMI of 19.5, felt GREAT all through the test, have felt great pretty much this whole pregnancy.

 

Anyway...it's nice to see I'm not alone, that other people have felt the same way, and that no...my world is not coming to an end. Have gotten lots of helpful ideas for what I can eat in the week between now and when I'm going to be meeting with a dietitian at the GD clinic. I was pretty much at a loss there before I found this (and the previous) thread.

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thesan - sorry no one replied to you sooner! So sorry you need to join us here but I'm glad you have already found some good information. There is a lot of misleading information about gd & one of the big ones is that you only develop it if you are overweight. I think the diagnosis is always stressfull but it does get easier.


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There is a lot of misleading information about gd & one of the big ones is that you only develop it if you are overweight.

 

This is SO true. My aunt is a labor and delivery nurse, so I called to talk to her about it when I found out. And the first thing she said was, "But you're so thin!" Obviously she knows better. But that just goes to show how pervasive the sense is that GD = overweight.

 

I am hoping the diagnosis will get easier and I'll feel more confident once I meet with the dietitian and get a meter, so can begin to nail down what foods are okay for me and which aren't. These days in the mean time, not knowing what to eat, when, or how much have been sort of stressful.

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Joining this thread with a slightly different diagnosis, I am "glucose tolerance impaired" which I understand to be a light version of GD (if there is such a thing). My numbers were so weird for the two hour test, the first two were low, and the third one was completely off-the-charts high. (76, 117 and 220, to be exact.) Part of me wonders if they messed up at the lab, but the GD diet sounds really healthy and it's not a bad idea to stick with it anyway. I'm not thrilled about it, but I have already found a ton of helpful info in the various GD threads on MDC, and I know that I am in very good company! 


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I am 28 wks pregnant with my 4th child. I took my 1 hour glucose tolerance test yesterday and today I found out I failed (my number was 190). 

 

I basically eat primal - high fat/low carb. I eat meat, fish, veggies and fruit (but I keep that to a minimum - maybe a handful of blueberries with breakfast for example) and occasionally a slice of sprouted bread. I've only gained 15 pounds this pregnancy which is awesome because I tend to gain A LOT and I was already about 20 pounds overweight when I got pregnant (I ate "healthy" with all my other pregnancies, but more along the low-fat, whole grains and lots of veggies route and not limiting carbs in any way).

 

So...I am pretty certain I am doing well, the baby is healthy, etc. I told me OB before that I'm eating this way and so when the results came back she said it might be because my body went into shock from the load of sugar since I pretty much don't eat sugar at all. I mean, they give me a syrupy sugar drink that I would NEVER drink it real life to see what my body does eyesroll.gif

 

But I'm worried about the 3 hour test - if my body is not used to sugar now, won't I just fail that test? And since I already eat a low carb diet, I'm basically already treating GD. I'm just worried I'll fail and be asked to test my levels 4x a day and be labeled high risk of some sort. I realize a lot of people fail the 1 hour and pass the 3 hour, but I'm just worried/curious about the connection between eating low carb and shocking the body with glucose.

 

Anyone have any experience with this??


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Snugglebugmom - what an odd result. Maybe you have late peaks.

 

berry987 - I did read somewhere that a glucose tolerance test can be unreliable in someone who has been eating a very low carb diet. But I don't know how much of a difference it actually makes in the numbers.

 

I had a great first week with my GD. And then I had my first high number yesterday after dinner. It kind of came out of nowhere. My meal wasn't any different than the one I'd eaten the night before. But my blood sugar was a full 25 points higher...pushing me up over my target range. greensad.gif I cried afterward. The only thing I can think of to attribute it to is that I wasn't feeling well, so I didn't go for a walk like usual. Lesson learned, I guess. Today my numbers are back to normal.

 

Also feeling frustrated with my diabetes management "team." Sounds like I'm going to have to meet with them every two weeks for the rest of my pregnancy. I hate having to report everything I eat, every number I get. It feels vaguely shameful. Like they think that unless I'm under constant supervision, I'm going to go off and stuff my face with cake. And I'm already tired of being told the whole "50% of women with GD go on to develop Type II diabetes" statistic. As if I need more to worry about right now...sheesh.

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berry - here's the thing - if you get a gd diagnosis you're already doing all the diet changes you can which will make things easier. You may find that the diet you are already following is keeping your numbers under control & it may not be quite enough. I have been a very strict low carb diet for quite sometime now & it wasn't enough to avoid the gd diagnosis or even insulin. If you do get the diagnosis & start taking regular bs readings you will get a better idea of what your body is really doing (yes, I fail the tests but my day to day control is just fine so I question how much of a problem the gd really is - would it have really mattered if we hadn't "found out"?). You may find that fruit becomes something you need to eliminate & some of the carbs you eat need to be adjusted - but it seems to be a personal thing (some can handle small amounts of fruit while others can't have any). Good luck with the test.

 

thesan - we all get weird numbers. Often when I get a number I cannot explain I rewash my hands & retest immediately & it is not uncommon to get a number that makes more sense. I know it is hard but try to look at the overall picture & not fixate on one number. If you are getting one high number in several days then things are going ok. It's the trend that is most important. I know how you feel about the monitoring - you feel so untrusted. Shame is a good word for it. With ds my endo actually had me hospitalized to "get it under control" & after a day of them feeding me (more than I had been eating) he changed up my insulin - it was clear the hospitalization was simply because he did not believe me that I was eating the way I reported. Very frustrating.

 

My fasting numbers have been slowly going up - still ok but creeping so I am going to increase the insulin slightly & see if that brings them back down.


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I really think gd treatment should include a couple of mandatory therapy sessions. It is amazing the amount of panic, shame, fear, tears, etc we all go through. This is my third gd pregnancy, I know the drill, I usually take things in stride, but a high fasting number can still reduce me to tears on a bad day. Hugs to all here!

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Agreed. I think the people who deal with GD moms really need to incorporate the emotional aspects into their care. My dietitian spends a lot of time making charts, telling me that I'm not gaining weight fast enough, and copying down my numbers. The closest she's ever come to touching on how I'm doing personally was to ask if I have any stress in my life. I kind of wanted to be like, "Yeah...this."

 

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I really think gd treatment should include a couple of mandatory therapy sessions. It is amazing the amount of panic, shame, fear, tears, etc we all go through. This is my third gd pregnancy, I know the drill, I usually take things in stride, but a high fasting number can still reduce me to tears on a bad day. Hugs to all here!


 

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Good point - although ime at least half of the stress is directly because of my interactions with the "specialists". Maybe they just need to learn a little bit of bedside manner & speak to us like women in a challenging situation doing their best rather than idiots. Sigh.


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I had to fill out some papers and checked the boxes for 'emotional' and 'irritable'   Well, yeah, I'm pregnant, and I just found out I can't eat ANYTHING, I'm constantly going to Drs appointments/getting blood drawn(badly, btw) so I don't have time to exercise before I have to pick my kid up from school, and I have to stab myself all day long!  I am IRRITABLE!  So Nurse Smug says, "Well you're just getting started!"  and basically chastises me for being emotional, because that can affect my blood sugar. 

 

She didn't like my post-breakfast numbers and tried to put me on medicine, but I was like, "I've only been doing this four days--can I have a little more time to see if I can straighten my diet out first?"  She 'let' me, but gave me the helpful information that things would get worse and worse as the pregnancy advanced, and I would most likely end up on insulin.  And then she signed me up for bloodwork to see if I was predisposed to type 1 diabetes. (Yes.  I am 36 years old, this is my third child, and you, brilliant Nurse Smug, are diagnosing me with juvenile diabetes.) I definitely second the counselling suggestion above, but I don't need any more appointments.  My son goes to 1/2 day preschool, and we're seriously considering changing him to full-day just because these Drs. appointments are taking up so much time! 

 

And while I'm on a roll...the REASON I'm so fat is because the Army and my husband put me on Zoloft, because I was not doing a good job being a single mom in a new town for a year while he was deployed.  They picked Zoloft because I was still nursing, and I gained 30 pounds in like, 5 minutes and was never able to lose it.  So, it's actually not my fault I have gestational diabetes--It's Osama Bin Ladin's, OKAY?

 

 

I'm vegan, which I haven't bothered mentioning to the military hospital staff because I just don't want to get into it (I have a midwife on the side who is going to help me with meal planning).  But some of the readings I got in trouble for were when I tried to eat oatmeal, which THEY SUGGESTED!  It did NOT work!  Not with nuts, not with tofu.  My dietary salvation appears to be packaged fake meat. (gross. I'm a whole foods kind of person) Obviously, I can't live on that for the next 5 months, but it's doing the trick numbers wise. 

 

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seana - sorry you are having a rough time with your care providers. Some are definitely better than others & the process is certainly frustrating.

 

You are only 4 months along & they already have diagnosed you with gd? Is that why she is wanting to do more testing - most times they don't test for gd until around 24 weeks - sometimes later.

 

With the food you will find that what works for one person does not work for another for managing your bs numbers. In general many of the women here find that the recommendations given are too high in carbs to keep bs under control by diet alone, so keep playing with it to find what works for you. With the oatmeal in particular it should be just plain oatmeal - no flavoured stuff 'cause that generally has a lot of sugar. Protein & fat should slow bs peaks.

 

fwiw (& this is just 'cause it's one of my pet peeves) gd is not caused by being fat. Being overweight increases your risk but it is far from the only factor. So please stop beating yourself up about it.


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Sorry you're so frustrated, Seana. I know how you feel!

 

And I agree that four days is a bit quick to put you on medication for a post-meal number. Super high fasting numbers, sure. But there's so much you can do to adjust down the ones you get after eating. And I also agree that as nice as some counseling would be for GD...I don't want any extra appointments either. I'm getting pretty tired of seeing doctors and nurses. And I'm only a few weeks in to this whole process.

 

The carb allowances I got from my dietitian were right on for me. (30g for snacks, 45g for meals) But I found that the actual sample meal plan she worked out for me consistently went over those allowances. So I never eat exactly what she recommended.

 

Still...I am not enjoying the GD diet right now. Has been making me feel kind of crummy ever since I started it. You'd think my body would be used to it by now. I feel my best in the morning and am SUPER hungry until mid-afternoon. And then I get to where I just feel painfully bloated and icky. I don't even want to eat dinner most nights. And then I go about four hours between that meal and my evening snack. Which is longer than my diabetes nurse wants. She's been trying to talk me into adding a second evening snack in there. But I just feel so blech by that point in the day that I really don't want to eat.

 

I think it's all the cheese I'm eating. I'm moderately lactose intolerant. Cheese typically isn't something that has bothered me. But I'm eating such insane amounts of it now that I think it's triggering some upset. Can't quite figure out how to cut down on it though.

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Thanks for the support! both my mom and husband have flat-out said that my weight is the cause. Not helpful! I think they tested me so early because I'm over 35 and my last baby was 10#. We're going to an ice cream social tonight so the kids can see their friends, and I'm trying to figure out what-all I need to pack since we might be gone awhile. What a pain!
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seana - that makes sense - having another "big" baby is considered a risk factor. Ignore your mom & dh - it's not your fault. Yes the weight can contribute but it is not the cause & besides at the moment there is not much you can do to change your weight.


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Thanks! I haven't been doing the after dinner snack, either, because my husband gets home late, and right afterwards I go to bed with the kids. I did just start a class, so maybe I'll stay up later so snack/ study, but the snack and test puts me two hours past my normal bedtime, if I have a snack an hour after dinner. the scheduling!
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So I was diganosed about 2 weeks ago (at 27 weeks). It was a surprise, didn't have it with my first one, but I'm 35 now. I was a bread/milk/fruit eater so this diet has been really hard on me. I am not a meat fan, but I feel like meat and veggies are all I can eat. I can't keep my fasting numbers under control. I've been around a 100 the last 5 days upon waking so they are scheduling an appointment to discuss nighttime insulin. I find it all very heartbreaking. I don't want to eat anything, but I have to, but when I'm sleeping my baby is being flooded with glucose. I'm losing weight. AND my Ob keeps "reassuring" me in the most annoying way, "Don't worry! It's fine! This is all normal pregnancy stuff!" It doesn't feel normal at all. I tried before bed snacks but it actually made my morning numbers go up.

 

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I think we're due at about the same time. I'm 29 weeks along right now. smile.gif

 

Losing weight on this diet is a big concern for me. So my dietitian has me eating a lot of "good" fats...like nuts, avocado, olive oil, etc. She says not only is this great for my weight, it slows digestion so my blood sugar will stay lower and provides the baby with stuff he needs, too.

 

GD is so individual specific, that I haven't really found many good recipes yet. I've found it easier to just combine ingredients I know I can have in specific portions into different configurations to make up my own meals. Or do something like cut down portions or substitute an ingredient for something less carby on a regular recipe.

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flor - all I can tell you is that a lot of the feelings you are having about it are normal ime. It's very frustrating & I've definitely been in that "nothing I eat is right" mindset - it's terrible. I know taking the insulin can feel like a failure & be upsetting but honestly it relieved a LOT of the stress for me. Nothing I tried would bring down my fasting numbers but the nighttime insulin brought it down & brought down the stress with it - well worth it.

 

As for recipes - I can't suggest much, we eat a very simple diet of eggs, meat, nuts, veggies & a few carbs (nothing white). For protein have you tried cottage cheese or greek yoghurt (you have to watch this 'cause many are also high in sugar)? I also do protein shakes daily - it's an easy meal & gives you a good amount of protein. You can add natural peanut butter to up the good fats & make it more filling.


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Thanks, mamas. Seems were all eating the same things. I was hoping to cook for the family a bit, but mostly dh cooks for himself and our boys while I eat my plate of cottage cheese, egg, celery, cheese. Hadn't thought of avocado; good idea. What are you making protein shakes from?
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I buy a protein shake mix from my gym. You can get them at the grocery store, drugstore, healthfood store, etc. There are MANY brands out there - watch for the carb content - some are much higher than others. Some are also much better tasting then others. I currently really like the Whey Gourmet brand as they have an amazing variety of flavours & I haven't tried one yet I didn't like - the peanut butter chocolate is great & even better with a tablespoon of chocolate in it.

 

We cook as a family. Tonight we had leftover chicken breast, pasta & tomatoe sauce & some veggies. I just omitted the pasta from my plate.


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I think I would like to join in here with you ladies.  I'm almost 19 weeks and not "officially" diagnosed yet, but at my initial prenatal visit they drew an a1c which came back a little high so I had to go to dietary counseling and have "a few" visits with the diabetes specialists.  I've been using a glucose monitor since then - the official instructions are to do a fasting and 2 hour postprandials every other day.  They would like the fastings below 95 and the postprandials below 120.

 

So far all of my postprandials are stone-cold normal, every single one. Even when I stray from a lower-carb diet. So that's reassuring.  But, my fastings are consistently a little high.

 

I'm feeling extremely stressed because I know that if I end up officially diagnosed as GDM, and if this diagnosis leads to medication/insulin, then hospital policy is that my baby has to go to the NICU for at least 6 hours to be monitored and have frequent blood sugar checks.  This is the single biggest stressor for me because I know that the nurses in the NICU tend to be very generous with formula and not so attentive to parental wishes for breastfeeding (I'm a nurse in L&D).  I've called to update them on a mom more times than I can count and when I tell them mom wants to breastfeed they almost always respond with "oh okay, I gave the baby a bottle so let her know, but she can breastfeed once we release the baby!"  I had a mom demand to breastfeed her baby while "visiting" after I was allowed to take her to see her baby and the nurse was absolutely livid that mom holding the baby disrupted the monitors and they couldn't tell exactly how much the baby got, and were going to have to monitor sugars even more closely because "it really could have screwed everything up for the baby to have breastfed." splat.gif

 

So I'm not necessarily upset by the potential diagnosis (and I think it pretty much is official in everything but writing at this point) so much as what it will probably mean for my baby's first few hours of life. The idea of this precious little person lying in the nicu being poked and prodded and fed formula like it's liquid gold is really upsetting. If I have to go on medication it also means that I'll be pressured to agree to an induction at 38 weeks, which I am planning to refuse as long as the baby is fine, but what it means for our tiny newborn is extremely upsetting.  My plan if we end up there is to just hang out in the NICU the entire time the baby is there, breastfeeding on demand and bonding as much as we can, but that's not exactly what I want, kwim?

 

Anyway, I'm rambling. (sigh)

 

So anyway, hi.  I'm here.  Glad this thread is here and sorry to dump my pity party on you all.


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I'm feeling extremely stressed because I know that if I end up officially diagnosed as GDM, and if this diagnosis leads to medication/insulin, then hospital policy is that my baby has to go to the NICU for at least 6 hours to be monitored and have frequent blood sugar checks.  This is the single biggest stressor for me because I know that the nurses in the NICU tend to be very generous with formula and not so attentive to parental wishes for breastfeeding (I'm a nurse in L&D).  I've called to update them on a mom more times than I can count and when I tell them mom wants to breastfeed they almost always respond with "oh okay, I gave the baby a bottle so let her know, but she can breastfeed once we release the baby!"  I had a mom demand to breastfeed her baby while "visiting" after I was allowed to take her to see her baby and the nurse was absolutely livid that mom holding the baby disrupted the monitors and they couldn't tell exactly how much the baby got, and were going to have to monitor sugars even more closely because "it really could have screwed everything up for the baby to have breastfed." splat.gif

 

So I'm not necessarily upset by the potential diagnosis (and I think it pretty much is official in everything but writing at this point) so much as what it will probably mean for my baby's first few hours of life. The idea of this precious little person lying in the nicu being poked and prodded and fed formula like it's liquid gold is really upsetting. If I have to go on medication it also means that I'll be pressured to agree to an induction at 38 weeks, which I am planning to refuse as long as the baby is fine, but what it means for our tiny newborn is extremely upsetting.  My plan if we end up there is to just hang out in the NICU the entire time the baby is there, breastfeeding on demand and bonding as much as we can, but that's not exactly what I want, kwim?

 

 

 

What a sad experience for those women.  Where I gave birth (with GD) we actually don't have nurseries anymore, and they promote breastfeeding right away, and there was no issue with DS's blood sugar tests.  I hope you can get those hours to be as right for your family as you can,

 

 


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That's crazy! My doctor and diabetes nurse both keep telling me that breastfeeding is extra critical for a GD mom. Guess those NICU nurses haven't gotten the memo yet.
 

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I think I would like to join in here with you ladies.  I'm almost 19 weeks and not "officially" diagnosed yet, but at my initial prenatal visit they drew an a1c which came back a little high so I had to go to dietary counseling and have "a few" visits with the diabetes specialists.  I've been using a glucose monitor since then - the official instructions are to do a fasting and 2 hour postprandials every other day.  They would like the fastings below 95 and the postprandials below 120.

 

So far all of my postprandials are stone-cold normal, every single one. Even when I stray from a lower-carb diet. So that's reassuring.  But, my fastings are consistently a little high.

 

I'm feeling extremely stressed because I know that if I end up officially diagnosed as GDM, and if this diagnosis leads to medication/insulin, then hospital policy is that my baby has to go to the NICU for at least 6 hours to be monitored and have frequent blood sugar checks.  This is the single biggest stressor for me because I know that the nurses in the NICU tend to be very generous with formula and not so attentive to parental wishes for breastfeeding (I'm a nurse in L&D).  I've called to update them on a mom more times than I can count and when I tell them mom wants to breastfeed they almost always respond with "oh okay, I gave the baby a bottle so let her know, but she can breastfeed once we release the baby!"  I had a mom demand to breastfeed her baby while "visiting" after I was allowed to take her to see her baby and the nurse was absolutely livid that mom holding the baby disrupted the monitors and they couldn't tell exactly how much the baby got, and were going to have to monitor sugars even more closely because "it really could have screwed everything up for the baby to have breastfed." splat.gif

 

So I'm not necessarily upset by the potential diagnosis (and I think it pretty much is official in everything but writing at this point) so much as what it will probably mean for my baby's first few hours of life. The idea of this precious little person lying in the nicu being poked and prodded and fed formula like it's liquid gold is really upsetting. If I have to go on medication it also means that I'll be pressured to agree to an induction at 38 weeks, which I am planning to refuse as long as the baby is fine, but what it means for our tiny newborn is extremely upsetting.  My plan if we end up there is to just hang out in the NICU the entire time the baby is there, breastfeeding on demand and bonding as much as we can, but that's not exactly what I want, kwim?

 

Anyway, I'm rambling. (sigh)

 

So anyway, hi.  I'm here.  Glad this thread is here and sorry to dump my pity party on you all.



 

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Yep.  In general I love my hospital and my job but the way GDM moms are (mis)treated makes me really really sad and disappointed in us. I think these women deserve better but changing hospital policy is not a small undertaking and is pretty much impossible for one person. So I don't have a problem with testing my blood sugar or going on medication, I'll do whatever I need to in a heartbeat for my baby's health. But thinking about my baby getting kidnapped off to this very breastfeeding (and parent) UNfriendly unit for 6+ hours right after he/she is born is just breaking my heart already. It's a little bit of a nightmare, honestly, to be a diabetic mom at my hospital. We do a lot of things super well but compassionate care for diabetic moms and their babies is an area where we have failed on a massive scale.

 

Does anybody else find themself getting hypoglycemic after exercising?  I've been testing before and after exercising for a few weeks because I end up feeling shaky and lightheaded within about 20 minutes on the treadmill, and my sugars when I feel that way are consistently in the low 60s, even if I just ate about an hour before exercising. Last time I tested before working out, an hour after eating, and my sugar was 124.  After walking/light jogging for 25 minutes I had to stop because I felt dizzy and my sugar had dropped to 61.  shrug.gif Is this a sign that I really do have some serious problems regulating my sugars or is this a sign that I need to maybe eat more protein before working out? I never had this problem when I was eating more carbs and fruit than I do now.

 

I've also lost 15 pounds during the pregnancy so far because of my diet changes. I started out quite overweight and I know the baby still has plenty of "fuel" but the weight loss and the episodes of hypoglycemia concern me, as do the sometimes high fasting sugars. (usually in the range of 90-100). I really wish that this pregnancy was going as smoothly as my others, I never had any complications with my other babies and this is all pretty overwhelming.


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