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I have a clotting disorder (Heterozygous Prothrombin Factor II Gene Mutation) and therefore my homebirth days are over greensad.gif.

This is my 9th Pregnancy.  I have 4 children at home with me and sent two to Heaven as stillborns, and 2 more as early losses.  I am already on Lovenox (80mg/1x day) and praying that in December we may meet this little one alive and well. 

 

I'd love to hear from anyone else who has to deal with a pregnancy that must include blood thinners - for the sake of the baby and mama.  I am DREADING a hospital birth (Ive never had one!) yet I know its what is necessary if I want to bring any more babies (God willing) into the world. 

 

Anyway, I am hoping to find some kindred spirits and hope to hear from you :) 


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I am sorry for your losses mama :(

 

I have done the whole lovenox and aspirin journey and a hospital birth. I tried for a home birth with my first loss at 18 weeks and then a hospital for my second loss at 18 weeks and the realized what was wrong with me and got prescribed blood thinners.

 

I used lovenox, aspirin and progesterone for my  third pregnancy and my sweet 16 month old is eating cheerios at my feet right now.

 

It can be rough, lots of bruising, worry and concerns about birth complications and so on.

 

But my birth went so well. I go induced at 4 pm at 4 cm. He was born a 9pm after 15 minutes of pushing. It was much more painful and harder to remember the 6 weeks of lovenox after.
 

Good luck! It worked for me when nothing else would. I hope it works for you!

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I love encouraging stories!

I am curious about the progesterone.  I have heard that many people who use lovenox also use progesterone.  Is this a precaution?  Should I ask my OB about supplements even if my numbers look good?  **Curious**

 

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No mine were low (like 7). I also had preterm labor issues (babies born at 18 weeks) so it was a precaution.

 

I have never heard of Heterozygous Prothrombin Factor II Gene Mutation. Do you need to take aspirin when not pregnant?

 

My ob I had was amazing, and my specialist too. And though he did kind of tell me what to do all I had to say was "no" and he would drop it.

In the hospital don;t be affraid to ask for a different nurse or whatever if it makes you more comfortable. With my son I spent 100 days in the hospital during pregnancy. They would rather you tell them exactly what you want rather then be wishywashy. So like...

 

Bad:

 

Nurse: "You need to get back into bed and not walk around for better monitoring."

 

You: "Well I wanted to be more mobile in labor"
 

Good:

 

Nurse: "You need to get back into bed and not walk around for better monitoring."

 

You: "No I labor better moving around. I will get into bed for monitoring but wont stay in it."

 

I tried to be so nice and I just confused people. Just be very clear about what you want. If its not possible (baby in distress or so on) they will tell you.  If it is possible even iof they don;t agree they will usually let you.

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Yes, I do need to be on aspirin therapy when not on the lovenox (during pregnancy) I am actually glad for it right now especially because I developed an ulcer and it wouldn't heal because of the repeated aspirin doses. 

 

Thanks for the tips on how to handle the hospital staff.  My only experience with the hospital is when I was admitted for 16 days after a hemhorrhage wich resulted in a transfusion causing a Pulmonary embolism and pneumonia. So I was in the Cardiac ICU and then the pulmonary ward.  I have zero experience with the maternity ward!

 

100 days!! Wow!!  I am so glad that everything turned out alright! 


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Honestly I like the lovenox. It made me feel better. My contition is called sticky blood. Before I realized I had it i would donate blood with my bff and she would be done it 15 minutes and it would take me over an hour. Even though the asprin works I am sure. The lovenox seems to just make my blood flow better.

 

I am concerned about ulcers but I pretty much always forget to take it anyway.
 

OMG is that how you figure out you had the condition from the PE? So scary!

 

Maternity ward sucks in that no one cares how you feel, what you think, or for your opinion.  When you are ill or injured in the normal hospital they are concerned about how you are doing, looking for sign of further issues but in the maternity ward you are not dieing so they just kind of want to run the show for you.

 

I was on bed rest in the hospital I had nurses call me lazy, lie on my chart because I wouldn't do what they said, One put on my chart I had gestational diabetes and I was only allowed diabetic food because on a particularly bad night after two shots of terbutaline to stop contractions I asked her if I could pee in a bed pan because getting up and peeing (my water broke with both of my losses while peeing) seemed to scary for me.  It took me a week before they would correct it.

 

I finally learned I just had to be firm. No choices for them. If I needed help I had to tell them to help me not ask. But the biggest thing was my partner. We were on the same page and he stepped in many times to correct and direct people when I was not well enough too.

 

Even at my induction they did a purposely small does of pitocin for 4 hours. So when my doctor came he could say "Well you not progressing lets stop for now and start in the morning" because he wanted to go home and sleep. My specialist had sent me there after an ultrasound was not good for an emergency induction. At first I agreed it was my partner who said no. We came here because the specialist thinks there might be something wrong we are not waiting until tomorrow. The nurse told us to be prepared cause the baby was not going to come until 5 am the next day. My partner said "No get going, he will be here at 10" sure enough he was born at 10:22.  Barely 5 or 6 hours after the pitocin started. When my water broke at 5 cm after 2 hours of pitocin I had them turn it off. She thought I was nuts but I knew labor after my water broke was always fast and furious. They fought me but I just held my ground.

 

As much as they act superior and so on they are there to help you, you and you insurance pay them, and unless the baby or you is in serious danger they should not be controlling your every move.

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Yes, that how they discovered by genetic condition.  Apparently there was some family medical history I was never made privy to that could have possibly clued me in, but oh well!  Almost dying did the trick! They tested me for everything under the sun and came back with Prothrombin Factor II!

 

I really appreciate the insight into the Maternity Ward - I know that should I be fortunate enough to make it to delivery that I will have to get over the angst I feel about it so I can labor effectively. (I tend to jump right to stage 2 for a few hours, fly through transition and push for 10 minutes) so I dont want anything to slow me down! Like fear or frustration! It sounds like you really knew how to communicate with them and make sure you had the best birth you could. Very admirable!! 


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