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#151 of 155 Old 09-21-2006, 04:38 PM
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What exactly are you basing this on? There have been hundreds of studies done on FAS, many of those have conclusively found certain facial characteristics resulting from heavy alcohol consumption during the time immediately following implantation until about 12 weeks, if I remember correctly.
In none of those studies have blinded observers been able consistently to distinguish a facies peculiar to the putative FAS.

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I thought this argument was about very minor alcohol consumption. I think you're the first to assert that heavy drinking doesn't risk harming your unborn child, and I just can't agree with you there.
You mischaracterize what I wrote. Heavy drinking has been negatively correlated with birth weight, which is usually considered a harm in that it is a risk factor for death and other adverse outcomes. There's some evidence, albeit weaker, of correlation with some specific types of defects. But there's nothing as definitive with alcohol as with a number of commonly understood teratogens.

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I just don't see what the medical profession stands to gain from arguing that women shouldn't drink while pregnant.
Power. It's psychologic.

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teresting one about Italy which I think relates to the discussion:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...=pubmed_docsum
Will do, thanks.

Now that I've read the abstract (I'm not plunking down $39 for the article, though I mihgt if I come across it in the library), I take this as the bottom line:

"Maternal reports of current drinking were significantly higher for mothers of FASD children than comparison mothers,"

I'd drink more too, if I had a disordered child.

"but reported rates of overall drinking during pregnancy were not significantly different."

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I am just curious why you are sticking your nose into your "neighbors/friends" business? I am a pro-life advocate but I also believe in people making their own choices. Is your plan to call Children & Welfare on your "neighbor/friend?" If so then you could really be stirring up a whole bunch of craziness that could go on for your "neighbor/friend" for years to come. If this woman gives birth to this baby and the baby suffers from any kind of defects or disabilities caused by the mother, the mother will be held accountable. I do understand your concern for this innocent unborn child, but just think before  doing anything rash. Maybe you should talk to this woman.  I work in a family law firm and have seen what assumptions have put families through. God Bless you ad your "neighbor/friend" and her precious baby.

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This post is from 2006!
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Actually, it was started on 7/06/2005, so it is almost 8 years old.  The last posts were from 2006, though.

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Yea I was looking at the last posts!

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