I just found out that this baby is posterior too and lies in the exact same position as my dd. I was REALLY hoping for the baby to be in a proper position this time around so that it would improve my chances of delivering without any pain medication. However, the doctor said that this baby is likely to be around 7.5 pounds already (at 36.5 weeks) which means that it is likely to be more difficult for me to labour and push this baby out as compared to my dd. (It does not mean that it will be so, but just a higher probability of me asking for epidural again and for a longer pushing stage...which hopefully will go without any forcepts or other interventions).
I know someone recommended spinning babies web site, but I want to know if doing those exercises really helped anyone to change the baby's position.
Also, if you can recommend any in-labour positions to ease back pain, it would be much appreciated as well.
I'd like to hear some positive experiences from moms who had posterior babies and delivered without pain medication. How did you 2nd labour go as opposed to first if both babies were posterior?
Just need some positive info so that I could be more optimistic of delivering this time without epi and medical interventions.
Thanks in advance.
In labor I received acupuncture which helped immensely. I had no drugs for either delivery, so I can honestly say there was a BIG difference. The second labor was much longer, but easier because I really knew what to expect. THe first time I was so shocked because I thought it was gonna be a breeze. The posterior thing is kind of a shock, KWIM? When you are ready for it, it's different. I never asked for meds in either one, but If I had been in a place where I could have received meds for my first, I may have. I also had magnesium, calcium as well as skullcap on hand for my second labor which helped things. Does that answer all of your questions?
Originally Posted by firefaery
network chiropractic or craniosacral therapy. ...
..Network chiropractic actually uses stimuli on the nerves to try and shift the bones...hard to explain but there's already been a difference. Craniosacral therapy will do a very similar thing...
..I also had magnesium, calcium as well as skullcap on hand for my second labor which helped things. Does that answer all of your questions?
Also for magnesium, calcium...is it something that you took in a form of a pill or what? Sorry if my questions are too stupid. I just don't know who else to ask.
As for the network chiropractic and craniosacral therapy...I would recommend a good craniosacral therapist over a great network chiropractor. You could try a search in your area (not sure if there's a database or something) or contact physical therapy and chiropractors offices to find someone who does craniosacral therapy or integrative manual therapy. I would almost start with PT's. It's very gentle and VERY effective. We swear by it, and I'm really excited about using it in pregnancy. My daughter avoided major surgery for a neck injury with CST. It's amazing.
and i did it at home drug free
i have since heard that squatting too much in the last tri mester can force a baby into the posterior position...
my dd did turn on her own in the pushing stage and it did takr me 5 hrs to push her out and i was in labor for 5 days....what i will do different this time is sleep and rest and eat as much as i can when i first go into labor, that way if it gets tuff i will have moreebnergy to deal with it....
i like the pp suggestion for chiro therepy....i am doing that as well this time and great idea aout the calcium D
My posterior baby experience is a little different...with my last my labor was really easy compared to my first two (both those were induced though). It wasn't until pushing that we figured something was up. It took me a while to push him out. He was posterior (and 11.5 lbs) but we think he moved that way sometime during pushing because my labor wasn't "back labor" by any means. I have, however, heard of women not having back labor even with posterior babies or like the pp, having back labor without posterior babies. So I think there are some variables there...
I'd definitely do the exercises and look for a chiro who can do the Webster technique...I mean, it can't hurt yk? Good luck, and I hope babe turns for you!!!!
C ~ mama to (16), (13), (9) (5)
There are lots of things you can do to encourage the baby to flip even now. I don't think 36.5 is too late. My mw got dd to flip while I was in labor (using homeopathic pulsatilla), but she flipped back before she was born.
I did all the exercises, religiously from 36 weeks on with my second and no back labor.
There is another site I like better than spinning babies, I think it's in another posterior baby thread. Some of the big things you should be doing--never reclining back in a chair/recliner/sofa; an exercise-birth ball is the perfect thing to be sitting on from now on--and actually leaning your belly forward. If you need to travel in the car you want to try to position the seat also to tip you forward. You need to be doing at least 20 minutes/am and pm, of being on your hands and feet; crawling around also would be optimal--apparently there's something specific in the crawling action. I do think the exercises work--it's all about getting the babe comfortable in a position other than back to back with you.
Pulsatilla is the homeopathic remedy that can be used to flip the baby. I would imagine that it's a 200C or 1M strength. You should only need to take it once.
Originally Posted by maybebaby
look for a chiro who can do the Webster technique...
Hope this helps some!
ETA: I've also heard really good things about the book Back Labor No More! I know that it's part of the hypnobabies course and a lot of woman has used the techiniques in it to turn their babies during labor.
Mom to two perfect kids surrogate to two sweetpotatos born 4.21.11
I love someone with ataxia telangiectasia http://www.atcp.org
That Optimal Foetal Positioning site is excellent too!!
C ~ mama to (16), (13), (9) (5)
The Webster technique is not only for breech babies - it is designed to bring the baby to the optimal birthing position
It worked for me with #4
Chaotic mama to 5 plus a bonus one on the way.
But the thing I wanted to address from your original post is that a larger baby is not necessarily harder to push out. I'm a doula, and I have seen a bit of birth. I really don't see too much connection between pushing length and size of the baby. In fact, the birth where the mom pushed the longest was one of the smaller babies I've seen. You aren't stuck here, even if your baby doesn't turn early. That's why movement in labor is so important. Climbing stairs can do wonders, the shifting of your hips back and forth in that rhythmic way can really move baby around. The other thing is, if baby's head is tucked, it's possible to be born posterior, sometimes called "sunny-side up". DD was born and I was freaked out by her face staring up at me.
Good luck with it all.
R~mama to 3
hands & knees as much as possible...I cleaned every inch of my floors in the last few weeks...with the last few...
(My first was posterior and after 36+ hours of labour he finally turned while I was laying on my side crying about them prepping me for a section.)
Mama of 2 boys, 5 girls.
My DD was posterior, although I am convinced that she would have turned during pushing if I hadn't been made to remain semi-prone. I kept wanting to flip to hands & knees (my body knew what to do!) but my medwife wouldn't let me :
Anyway, some great things you can do to turn a posterior babe before labor have already been mentioned. One I didn't see is sumo stomps. Basically just like it sounds - spread your legs and stomp around the room. Looks funny but the swinging motions are really supposed to help.
Off to check the other sites now
Originally Posted by melamama
My first was posterior, I did have back labor...
i was adviced to get on my hands and knees a lot prior to labor but he didn't turn. he was 9lbs 13oz though so maybe he didn't have the room?? but OUCH!!!! i second the warm water...labor felt much better once i got into the tub but my labor was so fast i didn't even have 30 minutes in the tub before they wanted me out for pushing...he did turn at some point while i was pushing but i have no idea how...
- Hands and knees
- Tailor sitting
My 2nd DS was 'post term' and as soon as he turned face down after almost 10 days of painful BH in my back, I went into labor. Sometimes our bodies need time to let those babies move into the ideal position. My midwife was great and helping me through this very hard emotional time.