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View Poll Results: Alcohol while pregnant???
I have/do drink sometimes while I am pregnant 84 44.68%
I have before, but I will never do it again 5 2.66%
I have not but its no big deal if it's just a little 45 23.94%
I have not, I think you should stay AWAY from alcohol while your pregnant 54 28.72%
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#61 of 101 Old 01-03-2007, 11:50 AM
 
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I choose not to drink alcohol while pregnant, or take in caffeine, etc. I just like to be careful.

Personally, I would be more concerned about many medications, or even food additives (aspartame, MSG) than I would be about alcohol. But- I trust most mamas are able to look into these issues and make their own choices about risks.

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Prenatal child abuse is a new term to me.

I had a few glasses of red wine in my 2nd/3rd trimester. No more babies here, but I'd do it again.

Americans are an uptight bunch, they are.
Drinking enough to scar your fetus for life is child abuse. Plain and simple.

My nephew and his siblings never had a chance. Instead of being allowed to be born healthy and whole, they were given lives of struggle. Their brains are damaged, nothing can undo that. Nothing can fix it.

I'm not referring to an occassional sip of wine. I'm talking about getting drunk, about damaging your fetus.

There's an excellent book called The Broken Cord - a true story about a boy born with FAS and his struggles to function with his disability. It's heartbreaking...

I just believe that if one chooses to continue a pregnancy, one owes that innocent babe a fighting chance at life. Lay of the booze, lay off the drugs. Give the babe a chance.

My nephew and all the other kids whose lives have been forever altered by drugs or alcohol deserved that chance. They deserved to be born undamaged.

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My friend's OB told her to have a glass of red wine a day during the 3rd trimester to "help with blood flow". Anyone else heard that?

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I'm confused about the correlation that some are drawing between the occassional glass of wine and alcohol abuse during pregnancy. I totally respect those who are of the opinion that they'd rather not drink any alcohol during pregnancy. But I don't get where the "I know someone who was a drunk during pregnancy and her kids were harmed, therefore no one should be permitted to drink AT ALL."

When we're talking about those who choose to have a glass of wine or a beer on occassion, I don't see why the fearmongering about FAS. I agree with the posters who have said they're more worried about aspartame or food additives than small amounts of alcohol. (The reason I say this is because alcohol has been consumed for thousands of years, while the others are relatively new and the effects are more unknown.)

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As a mom with a child who faced life threatening developmental illness in early life....I would never even take the chance of drinking while pregnant. The chance that something could go wrong developmentally, just isn't worth it.

My sis drank occasionally while pregnant #2. Her child has some serious health problems. She cannot say that it was or was not an effect of the alcohol.

Not knowing if that was the cause or not, and knowing it may have been prevented by refraining from alcohol for the sake of my child is just not something I would be comfortable living with.
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Beer tastes sooo good right now. That said, i limit myself to maybe one a week. Wine doesn't taste so good, nor does champagne. But that's my comfort level. I also have half a cup of coffee in the morning. But no soda, no diet soda. That crap to me is more poisionous than a beer.

Not until they put pregnant women in a bubble and control all life factors and ingestion of all food will be know the true effects of alcohol on a fetus. All this hoopla about alcohol I believe is to cover Dr.'s butts, insurance-wise.
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My husband drinks incredibly good beer, and I will typically get my toung wet for taste. Same with wine. I don't have a desire to drink though, when I'm not pregnant, it gives me such a heavy/tired feeling...I don't want to provoke my already pregnant/heavy/tired feeling to get worse unnecessarily, no enjoyment in that.
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I try to avoid chemicals, especially while pregnant, so no alcohol for me. That said, I did have preterm labor last pregnancy and drank wine for that. Studies are showing that alcohol is just as effective as labor stopping drugs but without all the nasty side effects.

ETA: When I'm not pregnant I drink maybe once every two months or so. And, it's usually 1 glass of wine or 1 beer. So, it's not that hard for me to give it up while pregnant. I don't think total refrain from alcohol is needed. In Europe pregnant women drink, yet not every European baby has FAS.

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  • i would never drink in the first tri.
  • i had a sip of eggnog at christhmas eve (22 weeks).
  • i would drink to stop early labor instead of going to the hosp.

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Haven't. Wouldn't think of it.

I have a nephew who has four siblings. All born to "mom" by the time she turned 21.

Oldest child is okay.

Second child has FAE.

Third child, my nephew has FAS.

Fourth child, has FAE.

Fifth child has FAS.

All of the kids except for the oldest have and will continue to face lifelong difficulties because their mom thought her desire to drink was more important than her child's need to be born whole and healthy.

These innocents are victims of prenatal child abuse.

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What does that have to do with anything? Tell us how much she drank and this post would almost be relevant.

I had a couple of sips of wine at a Christmas party. I might drink an occasional glass of wine when I'm a bit farther along if I feel like it. I'm with the school of thought that an occasional beer or glass of wine is okay. But I also take OTC and prescription drugs when I need them during pregnancy and drink some soda and eat some less than perfect foods. I think it is the habits that matter, not the occasional indulgences.
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What does that have to do with anything? Tell us how much she drank and this post would almost be relevant.
The poll was asking if you'd drink while pregnant. I said no and then stated my reasons.

How much did she drink? No idea for sure. I know she was more of a social drinker, sometimes drinking too much on weekends. I know she was drunk when she delivered my nephew six weeks early. I was there and you could smell the booze from her breath and from the amnionic fluid.

I said before, taking a sip now and then isn't a problem for me. It's the one's who drink enough to harm their kids that chaps my a$$. Like the woman in this story: http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/new...0?OpenDocument


Uptight? I might be. Again though, no problems with sips here and there. How much clearer can I be on that?

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While I don't think any of us sees drinking heavily prenatally as okay, I do think American culture in general goes overboard on this issue. I understand why its recommended to abstain from all alcohol, but I still think our culture can get a little too preachy. I'm definately not advocating for a person to drink daily while pregnant or binge drink heavily, but I don't see the harm in an occaisional glass of wine or something like that.

We weren't trying this time around and I had had a few glasses of wine before I found out I was pregnant. So I drank in the first trimester. I was a little concerned but the OB assured me that in order for damage to occur to the fetus one would need to be drinking more than two drinks a day on average. I did end up having a beer on my anniversary and a glass of wine over NY (2nd and 3rd trimesters). I didn't beat myself up about it, but I did do it in the privacy of my own home with my husband and no one else around because I knew so many people would freak out about even one drink kind of thing.
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I had like half a glass of champaigne on our aniversary (august 12) while pregnant with DD...it was 2 months before her due date (she was born a little under a month later).

I tried to drink wine a few times during my second pregnancy, but just the thought set off my hyperemesis...my midwife was hoping it would help with my irritable uterus since I was off terbutaline by that point...but I just couldn't do it.

I personally see nothing wrong with occasional small amounts of alcohol in pregnancy.

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I promised myself a glass of wine on Thanksgiving, Christmas, OR New Year's. Turns out I did none of the above. I was really looking forward to it, too! But it turns out I just didn't WANT it, and have kind of pegged myself as the Official Charlotte, NC DD-slash-taxi driver. (It's a boring job, but someone's gotta do it!)

I have no problem with a drink every now and then while pregnant.

Ha! At the New Year's party I went to, people just looked at me like I was flippin' crazy when I said I might have a glass. Honestly, that kind of irritated me. I've quit smoking and don't drink, yet people are afraid of Death To Baby by sushi, wine, and most of all, homebirth.

Like I'd willingly choose to harm myself or my child.
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What does that have to do with anything? Tell us how much she drank and this post would almost be relevant.

I had a couple of sips of wine at a Christmas party. I might drink an occasional glass of wine when I'm a bit farther along if I feel like it. I'm with the school of thought that an occasional beer or glass of wine is okay. But I also take OTC and prescription drugs when I need them during pregnancy and drink some soda and eat some less than perfect foods. I think it is the habits that matter, not the occasional indulgences.
I just felt like I had to step in here.

This was the poster's second post, and in the first post, she specifically stated that she wasn't talking about small amounts of alcohol, but enough to do damage, and her REASON for choosing not to drink (pardon me if I'm putting words in someone's mouth here, it's just interpretation) is because she has seen first hand the scarring heavy drinking has done on others' children.

I would venture to say that if I were in the same situation, I'd be very, VERY cautious as well. It's like almost drowning- it may be a long time before I went to the pool again.
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I have had a drink or two during pregnancy and nursing. I have no problem with my clients having a drink or two. That said, I don't tell people it's OK, because who knows if I am giving permission to someone with a drinking problem, kwim?

I understand the damage that alcohol can cause, but remember the amount passed on to the fetus is very, very, very small and with one drink probably not very detectable.

I am much more worried about my clients that are exposed to chemicals (like hairdressers, farmers, etc.), eat lots of stuff with artificial colorings, use diet stuff, etc. That stuff is scary!

There's a big difference between having a drink to celebrate and having an alcohol problem. I don't think the two can be compared.
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I didn't respond to the poll since my answer wasn't really there. I'm a better safe than sorry type and had no alcohol while pregnant with my first child. This time around I sampled one tiny sip--about a tablespoon of my FIL's wine (my only chance!) and a super tiny sip of a new liquer my friend had--less than a teaspoon, both in my 3rd trimester. I also am not ruling out the glass of wine my midwife sometimes suggests in early labor.
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This has turned into some heat...

I drank before I knew I was pregnant, but never got drunk. Then I didn't drink my entire 1st trimester. I had a half a glass of red wine at a winter solstice party, and shared a beer with my DH over New Years. I was around friends and peers, and none of them gave me nasty looks.

I also agree that drinking lots of soda, caffine, diet drinks, artificial everything is a lot worse for you than an occasional drink.

I was reading a study, I think it was in NY Times, about pregnancy and drinking- There have been no studies done between women who drink a lot in pregnancy and women who drink sometimes. Also, I read that in Europe it is completely normal for a pregnant woman to drink a beer or glass of wine while pregnant- but they give her crap for eating salad! I haven't asked my OB about drinking an occasional drink- really I just don't want to bring it up because I live in an ubber conservative state (Utah) who's major population is anti-alcohol. But, my friend asked her Dr and he told her one drink per day is OK with him. I'd never drink that much. I limit myself to once or twice a month, and never, ever more than one.

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I didn't drink a drop with DD, but this time I've had the equivalent of 2, maybe 3 drinks so far.

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I haven't had a drink while pregnant and I wouldn't ever do that.
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OK, w/all three pregnancies, i drank/drunk at least once before i knew i was pg.
1st pg, i had a total of 3 beers throughout and one glass of wine while in labor.
2nd pg, i had a few beers/glasses of wine, maybe one a month during 2nd & 3rd trimesters
3rd pg, i have tried to have a glass of wine here or there, but didn't like it, and have had a few brandy alexanders over christmas time, maybe 4 total.
My feeling is, if you have ONE drink during a timeperiod, with food, it wouldn't be enough to do any damage.
Usually, i think i want the drink, then start drinking it and don't want it any more anyway... it is probably more of a mental thing...
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I'd love to see anyone quoting that they work with FASD or FAS persons (or anyone else for that matter) to show studies that can conclusively prove that FAS/D has been scientifically "proven" to have been caused by mother's alcohol abuse alone. I've yet to see a mother lead a perfect lifestyle except for alcohol (i.e. no non-organics, no additives, no meds at all, nothing that didn't come straight from the ground and proven safe for our bodies) so who is to say which caused the symptoms? And to what extent are the symptoms psychological due to our society and its current take son parenting/education? ADHD wasn't nearly as prevalent until we began expecting children to sit for tests that would have most adults squirming in their seats.

To answer the question, yes, I would and do drink occasionally while pg. I've had about 2 glasses for special occasions (I got married being one) and I've had a 1/2 glass to a glass here and there due to PTL. I'd rather put a bit of wine in than terbutaline, etc.

And for where I'm comibng from, I worked with FAS/D-type kids all day long for quite some time....I never met one that could be conclusively said to have FAS because I never met a mom like the one I mention above (i.e. perfect).
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I agree with a lot of you that the "pregnancy police" attitude is very irritating and condescending...

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I'm confused about the correlation that some are drawing between the occassional glass of wine and alcohol abuse during pregnancy. I totally respect those who are of the opinion that they'd rather not drink any alcohol during pregnancy. But I don't get where the "I know someone who was a drunk during pregnancy and her kids were harmed, therefore no one should be permitted to drink AT ALL."

When we're talking about those who choose to have a glass of wine or a beer on occassion, I don't see why the fearmongering about FAS. I agree with the posters who have said they're more worried about aspartame or food additives than small amounts of alcohol. (The reason I say this is because alcohol has been consumed for thousands of years, while the others are relatively new and the effects are more unknown.)
ITA - I don't think anyone would say that getting drunk everyday is a good idea - but I have yet to see a study the PROVES one drink occasionally is enough to do any damage to a fetus. I totally understand that FAS and FAE are serious and real concerns - but, from what I have seen, these are caused by more than occasional drinking.

Nobody is perfect, you pick and choose your risks - I might have an occasional glass of wine or beer (no hard alcohol) with food during pg - but I refuse to eat McDonalds or other fast food, limit my caffeine, don't eat/drink artificial sweetners, try to stay away from high fructose corn syrup, etc. Nobody sits around and criticizes a pg woman eating a tuna fish sandwich - even though moderate amounts of mercury has been proven to be harmful to the developing fetus - people trust that she is not eating large amounts of tuna every day and is being cautious and making a safe decision for her baby - why do we not have the same attitude about alcohol?

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Not until they put pregnant women in a bubble and control all life factors and ingestion of all food will be know the true effects of alcohol on a fetus. All this hoopla about alcohol I believe is to cover Dr.'s butts, insurance-wise.

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While I don't think any of us sees drinking heavily prenatally as okay, I do think American culture in general goes overboard on this issue. I understand why its recommended to abstain from all alcohol, but I still think our culture can get a little too preachy. I'm definately not advocating for a person to drink daily while pregnant or binge drink heavily, but I don't see the harm in an occaisional glass of wine or something like that.
ITA with both the above

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I have had a drink or two during pregnancy and nursing. I have no problem with my clients having a drink or two. That said, I don't tell people it's OK, because who knows if I am giving permission to someone with a drinking problem, kwim?

I understand the damage that alcohol can cause, but remember the amount passed on to the fetus is very, very, very small and with one drink probably not very detectable.

I am much more worried about my clients that are exposed to chemicals (like hairdressers, farmers, etc.), eat lots of stuff with artificial colorings, use diet stuff, etc. That stuff is scary!

There's a big difference between having a drink to celebrate and having an alcohol problem. I don't think the two can be compared.
There are many other things that are more harmful to a fetus than small amounts of alcohol - yet alcohol seems to be the one thing that people get most worked up about.

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I was reading a study, I think it was in NY Times, about pregnancy and drinking- There have been no studies done between women who drink a lot in pregnancy and women who drink sometimes. Also, I read that in Europe it is completely normal for a pregnant woman to drink a beer or glass of wine while pregnant- but they give her crap for eating salad! I haven't asked my OB about drinking an occasional drink- really I just don't want to bring it up because I live in an ubber conservative state (Utah) who's major population is anti-alcohol. But, my friend asked her Dr and he told her one drink per day is OK with him. I'd never drink that much. I limit myself to once or twice a month, and never, ever more than one.
Here is a link to the study in NYT - in case anyone is interested.

I think this is a very personal decision that each woman needs to make for herself - I respect (and understand the reasons behind) those who choose to abstain completely, and I also respect the decision of those (like me) who have read the studies, weighed the risks, and believe it is safe to indulge in one drink (with food) occasionally during pregnancy. I don't believe anyone should be criticized for either of the above decisions. Obviously, we are not talking about excessive drinking here - that is a completely different issue.

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I haven't read this whole thread, but I imagine that my response is similar to the responses of a lot of people. I haven't been drinking alcohol throughout my pregnancy, but I never really drank all that much or often before I got pregnant (maybe a drink or two every couple of months), either, so it's not like it's been a huge adjustment for me.

I don't think that small to moderate amounts of alcohol are likely to permanently damage a developing fetus, especially later in pregnancy, but at the same time, I wouldn't give alcohol to an infant, so I'm not going to give it to my unborn baby, EVEN THOUGH the amount the baby would receive is negligible. I don't enjoy alcohol or its effect enough to take even the tiniest risk. It's just not my thing. *shrug*

That said, I wouldn't judge someone for drinking a glass of wine or some beer, here and there.
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ADHD wasn't nearly as prevalent until we began expecting children to sit for tests that would have most adults squirming in their seats.
Or until HFCS replaced sugar in so much food-type stuffs...
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I had an occasional glass of wine with dd#1 (perhaps 10-12 through entire pgcy) and she's no worse off for it. This time I've been drinking about a glass of wine (or beer) a week since the end of my first trimester (always with a meal). On Christmas I had a mimosa and there were a few days where I had 1/2- 1 full glass of wine a few nights in a row last week. I am sure I had some sips here and there throughout the first trimester as well.
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In moderation a glass of wine or beer is just fine in pregnancy. If the person drinks quite a bit normally it can actually be dangerous to the baby to stop cold-turkey. I've spent the last few years studying drugs (legal and illegal) and their effects and moderate consumption of alcohol is fine during pg. What's not fine is drinking it every day if you didn't usually do it (French women, for example, are used to drinking wine every day and so they can drink one glass a day during pg with no problems).

It also depends on body weight and build. I would never drink an entire glass of wine in one sitting during pg because I'm pretty small. Half a glass no more than once every week or further apart (once a month - if at all - would be much more likely than once a week for me) wouldn't worry me though.

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This is just one risk I'm not willing to take.
I agree.

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I've had a half glass of wine on a couple of occaisions during this pregnancy and with DD. Only in the third trimester, only half a glass, and only on a full stomach.

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