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#91 of 97 Old 09-17-2007, 05:48 PM
 
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OK, cool. Peace.
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I want to say this gently....

But doesn't an addiction to smoking begin with a choice to smoke? It's not like a disease you are born with and have no say about.
yes but when you're 16 and have no clue and not a care in the world, it's easy to bum a smoke from a friend and then you start getting addicted, I remember when I was 16 and smoked my first cig. A few weeks later my best friend died and I bought a pack (I knew the mom and pop store didn't card) and I started smoking 2 cigs a day, then 3, then 4, then 5, then when I started having intense cravings for nicotine in the middle of class I realized what an ugly beast addiction is. Thank God I had the awareness to just give it up then, because I realized it was no longer something I was choosing to do but something I felt a physical hunger for. It scared me. I've drank, smoked weed, and I've never felt the hunger like I did for nicotine.

I'm not a smoker, but I can empathize with how hard it can be to quit especially if you are going through a stressful or emotionally vulnerable time in your life.

I don't think it does anyone any good to get up on a high horse, there is physical addiction and there is psychological addiction. I have no idea what another mama is going through in her life or her mind. That's why in the situation with my friend who is pregnant, I just try to offer support. If she only smokes half a cig I tell her I'm glad she's trying. I don't think shame does anyone any good.

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I apologize to anyone who was offended by my question. I did not intend to be confrontational--I am only trying to understand. Sometimes it's hard to express my intended tone online.
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I apologize if anyone felt that I was trying to shame someone. I wasn't. I do stand by my opinion that it is a selfish thing to do and it's a fact that it can and will harm an unborn baby. There is no getting around that. I don't think stating facts is the same as judging or shaming. I'm not up on a high horse. I know it's hard and I will support anyone who is trying to quit.

No one can blame me for getting upset with the mother who doesn't care that the smoking is harming her baby, or the mother who shrugs and says "I know it's bad for the baby but I'm addicted so I can't quit"

I have deep respect for the mother who fights each and every urge and craving, trying every minute of every day to stop so that her baby is healthy. If you bust your behind trying to quit and can't, I mean really really trying hard then I won't fault you.

I firmly believe that smoking, drinking, taking drugs and otherwise abusing your body when pregnant is child abuse. Doing these things can cause lifelong damage to a child. The baby is innocent and cannot fight the cravings or choose not to smoke.

I say, if you smoke and know you can't quit, use some good birth control until you can provide a healthy environment for a baby.

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I say, if you smoke and know you can't quit, use some good birth control until you can provide a healthy environment for a baby.
Ohh.... thats starting down a slippery slope right there......

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I say, if you smoke and know you can't quit, use some good birth control until you can provide a healthy environment for a baby.
I actually agree with this... and if the pregnancy is unplanned...they should really try HARD to quit.

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