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Mommy StormRaven 08-07-2008 05:18 PM



Well this is a thread/group for anyone dealing with GD on any level. Newly Dx'd, had it before, have it again or lookign at the possibility of dealign with it. Whoever you are - regardless of whether you HAVE GD or support someone (mother, sister, Daughter, Client) with it. This (I hope) can be a place for you to vent, bitch, whine, complain, share, support, give hope to, give suggestions to or whatever for whoever/whenever/whatever issue you might have that is related to GD and it's complications and concerns.

Be blessed.

This spawns from my recent Dx of early onset GD (I'm 11w2d) and was Dx'd two weeks ago when I failed my GTT with a number of 188.


gratefulstella 08-08-2008 02:37 PM

OM goodness has this been the most stressful thing I have gone through this entire pregnancy.

So my numbers for my 1 hr test were not far off the cutoff, but they don't care- then came the 3 hr GTT...this is my first pregnancy by the way.

So I have GD, my daily numbers are great, my DH is WONDERFUL : at making meals that he and I can both enjoy (if your ever up for it make personalized size "pizzas" where the "crust" is a portabella mushroom...OM SOOO good!!

My problem is my fasting levels. I am now on Glyburide (was on 1.25mcg for 11 days- now they just upped it to 3mcg...it is in mcg right?) and that has brought my levels down from around the 109's to mid 90's. They want me below 90 (which to me seems impossible at this point) I REALLY don't want to be on insulin because we are trying to do a HB and if I am on insulin that is it...no HB for us

I have tried eating something in the middle of the night and it seemed to help once but then after that it didn't...It still didn't come below 90 though, it brought it to 101 (that was before the glyburide).

I think I am doing okay with eating and such but I just feel so lost and sad about this whole thing and I really think they are trying to push me into taking insulin...for goodness sake as if poking a finger four times a day isn't enough.

The only thing i haven't really tried is working out before bedtime- Not for any particular reason other than it's hotter than crap down here in NC right now and anything done outside seems ridiculous- I walk to the car and sweat...Any ideas...sorry so long

Munchkingirl 08-08-2008 04:17 PM

I'm so happy to have others too commiserate with. I mean sad that we have to deal with this, but happy not to be alone. I would like to know what others have been told is the best number range. My fasting is any where between 93 and 100. Does that mean I should be on something? I never remember what my 1hr, 2hr numbers should be on a regular basis. I always thought that having food at night/middle of night would bring the numbers up in the morning. Now, really I should have this down as it is pg #4, but no one has really guided me. I have just tried to figure out what was working to keep the numbers down. My first was an OB/hospital birth and I was borderline so was not classified GD, second and third were homebirths with the same MW and my overall numbers always kept me from having to be referred to a Dr. (the numbers were high enough that we assumed it was GD without the 3hr test). Anyway, I will be looking forward to sharing what works and doesn't over the next 7mo. (EDD mid March...I haven't even seen my MW yet for this one). Thanks, Tara

avivaelona 08-08-2008 04:25 PM

Stella, have you tried eating something very high in protein and low in carbs right before bed? Also, this might be cheating a bit, but try getting up at dawn and taking your fasting blood sugar then (maybe not so fun!) then eat something small and high protein, and go back to bed. Have you ever tested in the middle of the night to make sure you aren't having sugar crashes while you sleep? How are your after dinner numbers? High fasting levels in the absence of high after meal levels often mean that your liver is making sugar because you are crashing in the middle of the night, but it can also mean you have an overactive "dawn effect" Figuring out what is going on might be worth a night or two of not such great sleep if it will let you stay off insulin.

kohlby 08-08-2008 04:38 PM

I don't have GD yet so I hope I'm allowed to join. I have insulin resitance, which means I'm on a diabetic diet for the rest of my life. I'm not sure when I'll take the GD test. I have hyperemesis right now so there's no way I could handle a glucose screen right now. My hunch is that my OB won't have me do it early since I'm already on the GD diet.

I barely passed the one hour when pg with my son, with a 135. But I took the three hour and passed it. However, due to him being huge and me having an excessive weight gain, I went on the GD diet just in case. He was born huge, but with no signs of me having GD. I failed the one hour with a 180 when pg with my daughter, but passed the three hour. I didn't go on the GD diet that time, gained about the same 70lbs. And she was born at 11lb 4oz. However, she had the puffy chest of GD babies and would have definately been a shoulder dystocia case has she fit. Her blood sugar was a very low 38 at birth. So, I'm fairly certain that I did have undiagnosed GD that pg.

Though I'm not testing my blood sugar numbers, I know my fasting one is the worse. On all the blood sugar tests, both pg and not pg, my fasting one is barely low enough. My fasting insulin was supposed to be 18 or below, and it was a whopping 38. So, I'm going to really have to work hard at eating my protien before bed and keeping dinner low carb.

Two foods that have saved me on this diet are Dreamfield's low carb pasta and Breyer's Carb smart ice cream. I had problems with my insulin even with 100% whole wheat pasta, so it's a relief to still be able to eat pasta and ice cream since there are so many foods I no longer eat.

A Mothers Love 08-08-2008 04:38 PM

I just posted about this too.


http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=946153

Munchkingirl 08-08-2008 04:48 PM

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High fasting levels in the absence of high after meal levels often mean that your liver is making sugar because you are crashing in the middle of the night, but it can also mean you have an overactive "dawn effect"
See, no one told me that! What is the "dawn effect". Because if I can get a handle on the fasting and morning thing I am usually fine the rest of the day even if I splurge a little (really only a little...). Tara

avivaelona 08-08-2008 05:06 PM

dawn effect..everyone's body raises their blood sugar slightly at dawn (or dawnish) as they start to rouse from the deep sleep at night (even if you don't normally wake til several hours later). Some people seem to have an overactive liver and their blood sugar goes up significantly. If you tend to wake up in the wee hours of morning to go pee try taking your blood sugar then.

If eating isn't giving you high sugars but you have a high fasting its really worth it to figure out WHY. It might or might not keep you off insulin but it at least will give you more of a chance to battle it with diet.

Mother's love I don't think you have GD, I think you have a crazy doctor.

Kohlby, that does sound like you had GD...what about skipping the GTT's (which I think are sort of dangerous for those of us who have known sugar issues) and monitoring instead? Its less invasive in some ways and more accurate and if you had suspected GD with a previous pregnancy are you really going to trust the GTT anyway? Its just not that accurate with what your body is really doing.

mamalemon 08-08-2008 05:39 PM

We are thinking of ttc #3 in 6 months-1 year. I had diet controlled GD with both of my previous pregnancies, but I was close to needing Insulin with #2.

I will see my midwife before we ttc, but I am wondering if anyone has any tips for things I can do now that will help keep my GD under control when/if I do get pregnant again. I really want a homebirth and would hate to give that up because of Insulin.

NicaG 08-08-2008 11:18 PM

I'm so glad there's a gd support thread! I really need some support. I had gd with my first pregnancy, so I knew I'd probably have it again....but it's still hard! My ob had me take the 3-hour test at 23 weeks, and I passed, but when she wanted me to take it again a month later, I declined because I didn't want to put my body through it again. So I started the diet around 28 weeks. Just started insulin about a week ago, and it's freaking me out! Those needles! I don't think I'll ever get used to it. My fasting levels just won't come down, and I suspect my dietician's bedtime snack isn't helping (pretty high in carbs, and not enough protein). I can't stand my dietician. I'm already tired of all the doctors appointments. I'm burned out on gd, and I still can't find any good studies that tell me conclusively what happens if my fasting levels are slightly too high. I just can't wait until this is all over and I can hold my baby in my arms!

Three~Little~Birds 08-09-2008 12:23 AM

I have been diagnosed borderline GD. I agree - it sucks!

I, too, was having problems with my morning fasting levels - and ONLY my morning fasting levels. One thing that I accidently discovered was that my morning fasting levels were great if I DIDN'T have a bedtime snack.

It was so weird - the doctor was suggesting insulin, which would have automatically meant a transfer of care from my midwife to an OB (and induction, yadda, yadda, yadda). So I tried fiddling with everything. One night I fell asleep before having my bedtime snack and woke up in the AM with normal blood sugar! I couldn't believe it. I had been tinkering with all sorts of evening snack combinations. With so much emphasis on an evening snack, it had never occurred to me to not have one!
I have consistently recreated that and have managed to stay off of insulin!
I find that I get the best morning numbers if I exercise in the evening and don't have a snack.

Maybe my body is just weird, or maybe this will help someone else stay off of insulin too!

Mommy StormRaven 08-09-2008 12:35 AM

It's so good to see so many others here! YEAH!!!!! ::

Mothers love - I think the mw is whacked to be blunt. 100 and she wants a 3 hour? WTH? I'd ask her if you coudl just monitor your levels for a week or so and see if that gives her a better indication.

Anyhow - I went ahead and ate the prescribed meal plan yesterday and was in the 140's all day. On meals when I intentionally overeat my protein my numbers are below 115. So, my current plan is tha tI'm going to overeat the protein a bit - A I'm not starving an hour later and B the numbers are significantly lower - which is what they want.

I'm almost betting tha tif I only eliminated the sugared soda I had been drinking that my numbers would be picture perfect (3 cans of sugared soda a day one would think would significantly elevate your levels). so I'm eatign again as prescribed and when I do again - my numbers stay higher than they should.

WRT Excercise - I'm trying to get a membership to the local YMCA - my knees and hips are crap (arthritis and tendonitis in knees) so walkign is jsut flat out - ESP in this heat! But if I can get in a pool and do wome water aerobics and maybe a yoga class I'll be great. And I think it will REALLY help control this nastiness a bit!

ANyhow - Feel free to vent or whatever!


avivaelona 08-09-2008 01:29 AM

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Maybe my body is just weird, or maybe this will help someone else stay off of insulin too!
No actually its not that weird, or at least you aren't the only one. I have to have an evening snack but I found that the timing was important, if I have it too late I also get higher blood sugar...or worse I wake up at three am and just am awake for the day. So dinner is at 6:30, snack is at 9ish, if I eat later than that I have higher sugar in the morning OR I wake up starving in the middle of the night. I just forgot to mention that you might have to play with when you eat if the late night snack doesn't work. But if you arent eating at night and your numbers are high its definitely worth trying a later at night protein snack.

In general at first you just have to test test test and really figure out what works for you. The one size fits all solution is to put people on night time insulin, but honestly that is just covering up whatever the real issue is. Figuring out what works for your own body is so much more useful especially if you ever end up having sugar issues post pregnancy.

Michelle, are the carbs you are eating on the plan all whole grains and such? Some people can't handle ANY white carbs at least at first.

NicaG 08-09-2008 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by mamatotwo View Post

I, too, was having problems with my morning fasting levels - and ONLY my morning fasting levels. One thing that I accidently discovered was that my morning fasting levels were great if I DIDN'T have a bedtime snack.
That's so interesting. I was playing around with my diet before I actually got the diagnosis and saw a dietician, and I also found that my fasting levels were lower without the bedtime snack. But when I met with the dietician and told her this, she was incredulous and acted like I was fibbing or crazy or both. So I've been eating my snack. Now I wonder if I should cut it out...but now that I'm on nighttime insulin I don't want to end up with a hypoglycemic episode in the middle of the night.

What does everyone here eat for a bedtime snack?

And just out of curiousity, who here is on insulin?

Mommy StormRaven 08-09-2008 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by avivaelona View Post
Michelle, are the carbs you are eating on the plan all whole grains and such? Some people can't handle ANY white carbs at least at first.
No white carbs at all. Nothgin but whole grain here.

kamesennin 08-09-2008 01:50 AM

Hi, I'm 5 weeks PP but had GD. Hope I can help a little from a BTDT standpoint. I barely passed the 1 hr GTT (139) and got diagnosed through self-monitoring and went on the GD diet. Eventually I was on 10 units of insulin at night for my fasting #s. That was all I needed from 25 weeks on, I started getting super lows the last two weeks of pregnancy and ended up on 4 units at night. I had a net gain of 4 lbs for the preg, and baby was born at 39 w 2 d and was 6 lbs, 15 ounces. I breastfed her as often as possible (waking her up) after she was born so she would pass her 3 sugar tests. She was fine! I haven't gone in for the postpartum GTT (2 hour), but I will after I lose 10 more lbs and things aren't so crazy. I just hope I'm not pre-diabetic. I'm trying as best I can to walk everyday and not pig out on too many carbs in one sitting. Good luck to everyone with their diets! It's hard work. Oh, I lost out on my homebirth because of the insulin but I was able to have a nice hospital birth.

avivaelona 08-09-2008 12:19 PM

Mommy storm raven it does sound like you are just one of those people who need to eat even fewer carbs as a percentage than the plan calls for...when I first had this in my last pregnancy, I really couldn't eat very many carbs at all in grain products, even whole grains, my sympathy, that really sucks. Eating more protein is always good. I find that eating a little lower fat and higher protein lets me include a bit more carbs in a meal.

Fruit worked ok for me, and so I ate a lot of fruit and more dairy and very few grains...it was hard. On the other hand my friend couldn't eat any fruit even though she was fine with brown rice and such, everyone is different. This time around I'm not quite as sensitive.

Nica I'm not on insulin but I am still taking my metformin from before my first pregnancy, I don't go off it. (I went off in my first pregancy and lost the baby...no way of knowing if its connected to that but I don't want the possible risk of it being the reason) So far I am not having any trouble with my numbers, I'm only 21 weeks though. I really try hard to avoid insulin because I'm not convinced its a good idea to give insulin to people with insulin resistance. (which is what GD is) but obviously that is a controversial stance and there is no research that supports taking metformin through an entire pregnancy. There isn't a lot of information or research that supports anything about how they treat GD though. The treatment that exists has mostly been extrapolated from treating insulin dependent Type II diabetics through pregnancy.

I'm actually officially diagnosed as having Type II, I was diagnosed when I had some kind of illness (mono they think) between my last pregnancy and this one. So I eat a modified diabetic diet all the time and monitor my blood sugar all the time. I haven't had any trouble with it though even when I "cheat" since I recovered from the mono, so no one is sure whether the diagnoses is correct. Since I had PCOS though anyway (insulin resistance) I might as well treat it this way, its better for my health. Pregnancy is just an extension then, except your numbers have to be lower during pregnancy than they do normally. So far my numbers are very good. (fasting in the low 80's usually, after meals under 110 usually)

Three~Little~Birds 08-09-2008 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by NicaG View Post
That's so interesting. I was playing around with my diet before I actually got the diagnosis and saw a dietician, and I also found that my fasting levels were lower without the bedtime snack. But when I met with the dietician and told her this, she was incredulous and acted like I was fibbing or crazy or both.
I know - the ironic thing is that I only started to eat a bedtime snack as a result of all of this GD stuff - I rarely did before. I was advised to eat a MIDNIGHT! snack the night before my 2 hour test. My morning fasting number was slightly elevated
(which tipped the scales for my diagnosis). I can't help but think that if I hadn't had that snack, then I wouldn't have even had a GD diagnosis (my 2-hour number was fine). It's all very frustrating!

kohlby 08-09-2008 01:55 PM

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Kohlby, that does sound like you had GD...what about skipping the GTT's (which I think are sort of dangerous for those of us who have known sugar issues) and monitoring instead? Its less invasive in some ways and more accurate and if you had suspected GD with a previous pregnancy are you really going to trust the GTT anyway? Its just not that accurate with what your body is really doing.
I haven't set up the first appt with my OB yet. (I'm high risk due to several miscarriages so I see an RE right now. I only see the RE for first trimester). I will be asking my OB at my first appt if she thinks I should be monitoring my blood sugars. I am on the diabetic diet, so that's a start at least. I did find that when not pg, I noticed a great improvement of how I felt on the diabetic diet than before it. I met with a dietician a couple weeks ago and she didn't push for monitoring sugar levels since mine always show fine but she said to pay attention to how I feel. However, I still feel it's important to discuss this with my dr. At least I have a clear picture of how I'm supposed to feel and how I'm not. Diet alone worked well for me when I wasn't pg. The insulin resistance problems came on gradually so I didn't realize something was wrong. But now if I slip up on the diet, I can usually tell based on how I feel.

I am planning on skipping the one hour screen. I don't think it's very reliable and based on my history, I think it's worth it to go right to the three hour or monitor my blood sugars all along. My last glucose test was at the end of December, it was the 2 hour non-pg one. I had insulin levels taken at the same time. The fasting insulin was absolutely terrible yet the blood sugars were fine. So, I recognize that there is a problem even if it's not showing up in glucose levels.

Mommy StormRaven 08-11-2008 12:36 PM

Well, I unintentionally skipped my bedtime snack last night (just fell asleep earlier than normal) and my fastign level was 10 points HIGHER than my post dinner level was I don't get it at all...

kohlby 08-11-2008 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mommy StormRaven View Post
No white carbs at all. Nothgin but whole grain here.
I usually only have whole grain. I eat very healthy. Yet I was having hypoglycemic episodes and feeling quite off without knowing what the problem was. My fasting insulin was off the charts high, dangerously high. It was the morning after a dinner that included 100% whole grain spagetti. My fasting insulin was fine the next morning after a dinner that included dreamfield pasta. I met with the dietician recently and was surprised about all the foods allowed that I've been avoiding. (And feeling MUCH better when avoiding them). I will eat whole grain now, but I have to limit the carb count. Though the dietician told me to do exchanges instead of counting carb grams, I find I need to do a bit of both. I've had to give up all pasta unless I eat less than half a serving of whole grain. I don't eat rice. I don't eat white potatoes. I only eat low carb bread now. Dreamfield pasta has been wonderful for me due to the low carb count.

I was told that different people don't react the same to the same foods. One diabetic might not be able to tolerate any apples, despite apples not being super high compared to some carb foods. Another diabetic might have trouble with carrots. Another might be senstive to pasta, even whole grains. It's a lot of trial and error. I basically stick to things in the strickest sense and it's working well.

kohlby 08-11-2008 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by mamalemon View Post
We are thinking of ttc #3 in 6 months-1 year. I had diet controlled GD with both of my previous pregnancies, but I was close to needing Insulin with #2.

I will see my midwife before we ttc, but I am wondering if anyone has any tips for things I can do now that will help keep my GD under control when/if I do get pregnant again. I really want a homebirth and would hate to give that up because of Insulin.
It could be helpful to go on the GD diet now, even before ttc.

Munchkingirl 08-11-2008 01:02 PM

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except your numbers have to be lower during pregnancy than they do normally. So far my numbers are very good. (fasting in the low 80's usually, after meals under 110 usually)
Should my numbrs be this low always?

My fasting when I first wake up is 93-100 and after eating it is usually around 130 at 1hr. I modify meals, but not really on a diebetic diet (can't seem to stick to it long term in the application). I haven't played around with night time snacks vs. non or waking in the middle of the night to eat yet to work out fasting #/s, but I will. I just always thought that 140 or less at 1hr was fine and 120 at 2hrs was what I needed to look or, but maybe those are too high even if they are in the normal range...? Is that where the thoughts about gd are now, that high normal is bad? I just don't want to be on anything and if these #'s are bad I will work out the diebetic diet better.

avivaelona 08-12-2008 01:36 AM

The usual limits docs set is under 90 fasting and under 120 2 hours post meal during pregnancy. (under 100 fasting and under 140 2 hours after a meal when you arent pregnant) I don't know what the 1 hour numbers should be. Its not really clear how low they do have to be to avoid diabetes affecting the baby. I was just saying that was what my numbers have been not that its how low my doc said they had to be.

Mommy Storm Raven...thats your liver making sugar while you sleep, either because it just is, or because of the dawn affect, or because you are crashing in the middle of the night and your liver is reacting to that. I think its called "auto glycogenesis"? Something like that.

You sound so much like me in my last pregnancy. I remember finding that so incredibly frustrating til I did figure out what worked. I'd be so suspicious about PCOS if I were you...there is a really good PCOS resource on the web called "Soul Cysters" if you are feeling up to it you might want to read up a bit there and see if the testing that was done was what was recommended. You can have PCOS without showing the typical string of pearls cysts on your ovaries...a lot of times if its an RE testing they only look for that and maybe free testosterone and not at Insulin issues. If not now it might be something to look at once you get through this pregnancy.

After my sugars being near perfect this whole pregnancy I've been struggling a little the last couple of days. Its so irritating. Of course tonight it really was self-inflicted, I ate a huge huge dinner, and a kind of noodles I thought would be ok, and I think they weren't. (I thought they were bean noodles but they may have been rice, or maybe I just ate way too much in general)

I also can really FEEL it when I mess up and I hate the way it feels (though the food was soooo yummy its hard to regret it)

Mommy StormRaven 08-12-2008 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by avivaelona View Post
You sound so much like me in my last pregnancy. I remember finding that so incredibly frustrating til I did figure out what worked. I'd be so suspicious about PCOS if I were you...there is a really good PCOS resource on the web called "Soul Cysters" if you are feeling up to it you might want to read up a bit there and see if the testing that was done was what was recommended. You can have PCOS without showing the typical string of pearls cysts on your ovaries...a lot of times if its an RE testing they only look for that and maybe free testosterone and not at Insulin issues. If not now it might be something to look at once you get through this pregnancy.
Actually, when my RE tested she tested EVERYTHING. I got bloodwork done for all of my levels - the first time they tested things it was more than 10 vials of blood. and my FSH:LH ratio is still perfect along with everything else. And the testign that was done was for both RPL and IF issues having gone through multiple losses


All that said today I ate what I wanted to eat, when I wanted to eat and guess what - my numbers were int eh low 120's consistently all day long. After looking at my meals and what is "prescribed" I realize that I'm beign forced to eat MORE carbs on this diet than I normally eat in any given day, and less protein than I normally do as well and today - the one day I jsut ate on an "as needed" basis to my satisfaction and my numbers were more "normal" than they have been since I started this whole thing. So I'm goign to go with that. My carb intake in general was never REALLY high. At least not on food - my big "offender" was always regualr sugared soda. And I've cut that. We've always eaten sugar free desserts for the most part so I'm seeign tha tnurse on wednesday and goign over the whole thing.

I really think my initial results were very skewed. She asked me if I'd had anythgin to eat when she gave me the glucola drink. I hadnt' but I had drank an entire can of regular coke just before I got to the office and then she gave me the drink. Hmm.. that wouldnt 'ahve effected things at all now would it?!

So, I am goign to discuss things with her. I'm beign forced to eat more than my normal intake of crap that is causign a problem and it's only makign it worse. I'm also switching to a differnet doctors office (not because of the "specialist" because I've heard some not so good things about intervention happy - read knife happy - docs in this practice from local doulas) and I'm going over all of it with him again next week to see what his thoughts are.

purplemama 08-12-2008 02:20 AM

Hi all,

Glad to find this group. This is my fifth pregnancy, but this is the first time I've actually been diagnosed with GD. I've had to take the 3-hour test twice before, but have always passed. This time, I didn't. I'm so mad at my body for doing this.

My 1-hour glucose, I got a 171. For my 3-hour test, I passed the fasting and 3-hour blood draw, but failed the 1 and 2-hour ones.

I have an appointment with a nutritionist on Thursday, then I have to pick up a meter and go to a class to learn how to use it. I guess I have to prick my finger to get some blood and test it? And it sounds like I have to do this every day? How often each day does it have to be done?

I didn't think I had a bad diet. I eat lots of fresh fruit, and don't drink soda or juice or sugary drinks. Mostly I drink water, occasionally, tea. I love carbs, though, not sure if that's what did me in.

Anyway, it's great to have a support group! I have about 8-10 more weeks before the baby is here... I hope it goes quickly!

avivaelona 08-12-2008 06:50 AM

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She asked me if I'd had anythgin to eat when she gave me the glucola drink. I hadnt' but I had drank an entire can of regular coke just before I got to the office and then she gave me the drink. Hmm.. that wouldnt 'ahve effected things at all now would
well yeah it might just a tad!

That's funny that you are eating more carbs on the plan...yeah then it makes sense not to follow the plan! I find that if I follow things exactly I just end up eating more food than I want to eat in general and that messes things up.

My lovely meal last night has me up at 4:30 in the morning feeling horrible and sick. Blech. Blood sugar is ok but my stomach is NOT.

Welcome Purplemama. Usually you have to test 4 times a day, when you first wake up and then after every main meal. Some docs ask you to do a bedtime one too others will feel that less testing is ok especially if you are borderline. The finger pricks don't really hurt...ask them to show you where you can use the meter...if you do it right in the center of your fingertip it hurts more than some other spots.

Don't be mad at your body, its a hormone thing and your body is supposed to have more insulin resistance in pregnancy, but sometimes it just gets a little overzealous. If your diet was generally good before than the changes you have to make aren't that hard, just balancing out those carbs with protein and fiber more.

kohlby 08-12-2008 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Mommy StormRaven View Post
Actually, when my RE tested she tested EVERYTHING. I got bloodwork done for all of my levels - the first time they tested things it was more than 10 vials of blood. and my FSH:LH ratio is still perfect along with everything else. And the testign that was done was for both RPL and IF issues having gone through multiple losses
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It could be worth it to ask to take the glucose test again. A can of soda would have definately screwed up any results for me. Also, you can have insulin resistance without PCOS. I was tested for tons of stuff due to RPL too. They don't usually check insulin levels. My RE did it based on my history and that's how we caught the problem. I went on metformin while ttc and was going to stay on it for first trimester. (But I think it made my hyperemesis worse so I went off of it a few weeks ago). There are studies that show even a low dose of metformin reduces the chance of a first trimester loss. (And studies that show a drastic reduction in the number of women who get GD if women are on metformin for all the pg. Personally, I'd rather not take meds unless I thought I really needed them though).

If you retake the test and it comes back fine, then at least you won't have the GD label. When I was pg with DS, my OB thought there was a chance that I had slipped through and had undiagnosed GD despite passing the three hour. To help me avoid the GD label, she told me to go on the GD diet but not worry about anymore testing. I ended up induced due to the placenta calcifying at 42 weeks and he was huge - but not built like a GD baby. If I had that GD label, there's no way I would have been able to wait until 42 weeks.

Mommy StormRaven 08-14-2008 12:34 PM

I'm switchign docs after my NT scan on monday. I knwo my RE did test for IR becuase when he prescrbed metformin for me he said that "the bloodwordk gives me no indication of IR but if you want to try it we can - it wont' hurt you"

I'll ask to retest when II see teh new doc. I talked to my old mw yesterday and she thinks the results are way off too. My "diabetic Educator" actually had teh nerve to sit ther and tell me that my "high fat diet" was effecting my glucose levels. umm I can't eat a high fat diet - i have no gallbladder! I sat there and told her that when I cook meat it's in a dry fry pan with no oils added and she looked straight at me and said my fat intake was causign a problem becaseu I was coolign in oil - did she not hear me say I don't use oils? um what fat intake? she equated high protein with high fat and duh - you can eat lean meat! um chiken? turkey? Roast beef? lean ham? Steaks? duh - but then she called kidneys thingies and said I was poisoning myself with protein because I eat more of it than carbs normally. umm yeah - I don't NEED that many carbs, I havent' eaten that many carbs for over 10 years! DUH people! She simply cannot seem to get that I'm an INFORMED healthcare consumer as opposed to a sheep.

I'm soo done with the practice...

Katerz2u 08-14-2008 08:31 PM

Hi everyone, guess I am joining you. This is my 3rd pregnancy and my first encounter with GD.
I failed my 1 hour glucose by 6 points and did the 3 hour yesterday. My results today showed my fasting and last (3rd hour) draw were excellent but my in between (1hr and 2hr) were off the charts.
I met with a dietitian/educator this afternoon, went over meal plans and got a meter. It looks like the meals will be easy its just quantity I need to watch. Im also HORRIBLE with eating at regular intervals, sometimes I skip breakfast or go 6 hours without eating..its affecting me badly. I am optimistic I can control this with diet, I hope, because if I don't get it under control Im going to have to go to insulin.
Im so worried but at the same time, Im motivated! Wishing you all luck on your journey too!


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